Re: ARGH! (Was Springfield Journal Register needs posts)

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

 

You are arguing with idiots.  Never argue with idiots.  It is really bad for

your blood pressure.  These people are not wanting to discuss anything.  They

are just a bunch of frustrated fools who cannot accept the fact that life has

dealt them a short deck.  They think their deck is shorter than everyone elses

and can't begin to differentiate. 

They are just plain stupid.

From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

Subject: ARGH! (Was Springfield Journal Register needs posts)

IPADDUnite

Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 9:07 PM

 

Hit the send button before finishing!! The link to paper is:

http://www.sj-r.com/letters/x1388107250/Letter-Developmental-centers-waste-of-st\

ate-money

And here’s Kim’s original post – you have to follow the link above to read

all of the vile responses this has garnered.

THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER

Posted Jun 11, 2011 @ 11:03 PM

There is really no solid argument to keep investing in large, costly, archaic

dinosaurs called State Operated Developmental Centers that warehouse people!

It’s a shame our governor was too focused on keeping his job and forgot to do

his job when he signed a labor agreement promising not to shut down any

institutions or lay off staff.

Based on recent data, the state plans to pay an average of $168,000 per year to

house more than 2,000 people with developmental disabilities in these state run

institutions. That amount buys people with disabilities the opportunity to live

at a place like the Shapiro Developmental Center, built in 1877, where you get

to live with 575 other people all day, every day in a ward-like setting.

To put it in perspective, Todd Lincoln lived there!

For that amount of money, you could stay at a five-star hotel on Michigan Avenue

365 days per year. But even better, for the same cost Illinois could fund four

people in community residential services, or eight people in home based

services, or 145 families could receive regular help caring for disabled loved

ones through respite programs, or people could receive more than 6,800 hours of

job coaching.

If everyone in our state institutions transitioned to a community-based

residential setting, a $200 million savings would be realized and our state

could serve nearly 4,000 more people in critical need of community-based

residential supports, or more than 9,000 people could be awarded home-based

services that are designed to support people to craft meaningful days and keep

families intact. This would make a substantial, positive impact on many of the

20,000 people in need of community-based services waiting in line today.

Illinois needs to seriously analyze the return on their investment! It is not

about needing more money, it is about responsible spending.

— Kim Zoeller, president and CEO, Ray Graham Association, Lisle

From: Jerue Family

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:00 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Springfield Journal Register needs posts

Hi all,

Below is a link to the Springfield Journal-Register from yesterday, with a

Letter to the Editor from Kim Zoeller at the Ray Graham Association. I happen to

agree with most all of what she says, so I was distressed to see/read the 14

comments posted there, mostly all in favor of the state ops and vehemently

against community services. If you read this and decide you’d like to add your

two cents to the online discussion (as I did) please go to this link and make a

comment. I hate to see all the negative viewpoints and so few positive ones –

especially on this topic. Here’s the link to the article:

[Guest guest]

Debates and arguments can become emotional but pouring emotional over debates

then become fustrated but would be foolish to complain. Forum can be a place

where these happen.

Debate teams probably can be crueler than what I read so far.

However, if we abstain our emotion and read debates then send rebuttal, we are

doing more kind things to our body than become emotional then get stressed

become you were in a losing side of the debate.

I don't think some comments were " troll " .

The username " Less Government " wasn't trying to be cruel but actually make up

part of the US vs Them debate.

It is only going to get more stressful for you if you get involve in this

debate.

Imagine what lawyers have to go through :-)

>

>

> From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

> Subject: ARGH! (Was Springfield Journal Register needs posts)

> IPADDUnite

> Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 9:07 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Hit the send button before finishing!! The link to paper is:

http://www.sj-r.com/letters/x1388107250/Letter-Developmental-centers-waste-of-st\

ate-money

> And here’s Kim’s original post †" you have to follow the link above to

read all of the vile responses this has garnered.

>

> THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER

> Posted Jun 11, 2011 @ 11:03 PM

>

>

> There is really no solid argument to keep investing in large, costly, archaic

dinosaurs called State Operated Developmental Centers that warehouse people!

It’s a shame our governor was too focused on keeping his job and forgot to do

his job when he signed a labor agreement promising not to shut down any

institutions or lay off staff.

>

> Based on recent data, the state plans to pay an average of $168,000 per year

to house more than 2,000 people with developmental disabilities in these state

run institutions. That amount buys people with disabilities the opportunity to

live at a place like the Shapiro Developmental Center, built in 1877, where you

get to live with 575 other people all day, every day in a ward-like setting.

>

> To put it in perspective, Todd Lincoln lived there!

>

> For that amount of money, you could stay at a five-star hotel on Michigan

Avenue 365 days per year. But even better, for the same cost Illinois could fund

four people in community residential services, or eight people in home based

services, or 145 families could receive regular help caring for disabled loved

ones through respite programs, or people could receive more than 6,800 hours of

job coaching.

>

> If everyone in our state institutions transitioned to a community-based

residential setting, a $200 million savings would be realized and our state

could serve nearly 4,000 more people in critical need of community-based

residential supports, or more than 9,000 people could be awarded home-based

services that are designed to support people to craft meaningful days and keep

families intact. This would make a substantial, positive impact on many of the

20,000 people in need of community-based services waiting in line today.

>

> Illinois needs to seriously analyze the return on their investment! It is not

about needing more money, it is about responsible spending.

>

> †" Kim Zoeller, president and CEO, Ray Graham Association, Lisle

>

> From: Jerue Family

> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:00 PM

> IPADDUnite

> Subject: Springfield Journal Register needs posts

>

> Hi all,

> Below is a link to the Springfield Journal-Register from yesterday, with a

Letter to the Editor from Kim Zoeller at the Ray Graham Association. I happen to

agree with most all of what she says, so I was distressed to see/read the 14

comments posted there, mostly all in favor of the state ops and vehemently

against community services. If you read this and decide you’d like to add your

two cents to the online discussion (as I did) please go to this link and make a

comment. I hate to see all the negative viewpoints and so few positive ones †"

especially on this topic. Here’s the link to the article:

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well put. I am stopping for tonight. Thanks to the folks who followed me into

the fray, sorry to have led us down this path. Margie’s right – there’s

no arguing it.

I’m going upstairs to hopefully find some mindless television I can watch.

Tomorrow is another day.

L.

From: Margie Sillery

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:31 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Re: ARGH! (Was Springfield Journal Register needs posts)

Laurie,

You are arguing with idiots. Never argue with idiots. It is really bad for

your blood pressure. These people are not wanting to discuss anything. They

are just a bunch of frustrated fools who cannot accept the fact that life has

dealt them a short deck. They think their deck is shorter than everyone elses

and can't begin to differentiate.

They are just plain stupid.

From: Jerue Family <mailto:jeruefamily%40comcast.net>

Subject: ARGH! (Was Springfield Journal Register needs posts)

mailto:IPADDUnite%40

Date: Sunday, June 12, 2011, 9:07 PM

Hit the send button before finishing!! The link to paper is:

http://www.sj-r.com/letters/x1388107250/Letter-Developmental-centers-waste-of-st\

ate-money

And here’s Kim’s original post – you have to follow the link above to read

all of the vile responses this has garnered.

THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER

Posted Jun 11, 2011 @ 11:03 PM

There is really no solid argument to keep investing in large, costly, archaic

dinosaurs called State Operated Developmental Centers that warehouse people!

It’s a shame our governor was too focused on keeping his job and forgot to do

his job when he signed a labor agreement promising not to shut down any

institutions or lay off staff.

Based on recent data, the state plans to pay an average of $168,000 per year to

house more than 2,000 people with developmental disabilities in these state run

institutions. That amount buys people with disabilities the opportunity to live

at a place like the Shapiro Developmental Center, built in 1877, where you get

to live with 575 other people all day, every day in a ward-like setting.

To put it in perspective, Todd Lincoln lived there!

For that amount of money, you could stay at a five-star hotel on Michigan Avenue

365 days per year. But even better, for the same cost Illinois could fund four

people in community residential services, or eight people in home based

services, or 145 families could receive regular help caring for disabled loved

ones through respite programs, or people could receive more than 6,800 hours of

job coaching.

If everyone in our state institutions transitioned to a community-based

residential setting, a $200 million savings would be realized and our state

could serve nearly 4,000 more people in critical need of community-based

residential supports, or more than 9,000 people could be awarded home-based

services that are designed to support people to craft meaningful days and keep

families intact. This would make a substantial, positive impact on many of the

20,000 people in need of community-based services waiting in line today.

Illinois needs to seriously analyze the return on their investment! It is not

about needing more money, it is about responsible spending.

— Kim Zoeller, president and CEO, Ray Graham Association, Lisle

From: Jerue Family

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 4:00 PM

mailto:IPADDUnite%40

Subject: Springfield Journal Register needs posts

Hi all,

Below is a link to the Springfield Journal-Register from yesterday, with a

Letter to the Editor from Kim Zoeller at the Ray Graham Association. I happen to

agree with most all of what she says, so I was distressed to see/read the 14

comments posted there, mostly all in favor of the state ops and vehemently

against community services. If you read this and decide you’d like to add your

two cents to the online discussion (as I did) please go to this link and make a

comment. I hate to see all the negative viewpoints and so few positive ones –

especially on this topic. Here’s the link to the article: