Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 Hi All - Has anyone else had severe flares after dental work? After I get any invasive work done, I always have severe fibromyalgia pain whether I use NO or not (which I now don't use because of my extreme reaction to it). Any suggestions about how to prevent this type of FM pain after dental work? I take antibiotics prior to the visits due to mitral valve prolapse (usually amoxycillin) - maybe these are the culprit? Thanks - Jennie --- " Laurie L. " <laurie@...> wrote: > I use nitrous oxide at the dentist, because I'm > sensitive to mouth > pain and get adrenalin rushes etc. with some > procedures there. I > have a mouthful of crowns now. I may be sensitive > to the gas because > I can't tolerate much, they have to turn it down > from their usual > setting (whatever that is) and it takes very little > to send me > floating out the window, but it has made an enormous > difference in my > stress level there. For some of us, it becomes an > interesting trade > off: adrenalin or nitrous. > > I am interested in Dave's ideas (although hoping > very much that it > doesn't apply to me because I love my vegies), and > I'm willing to > give it a go for a couple of weeks and see what > happens. > > Laurie Lassesen > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 , Working off the mycoplasma/rickettsia model, there are likely TWO things that are happening: 1) Adrenelein increase (common to people going to dentist). Unfortunately, Adrenelein is reported to cause a 4000x growth rate with mycoplasma in 24 hrs... so you just dump fetilizer on the infection.... 2) Amoxycillin is a member of the penicillin family, and this family was how mycoplasma was discovered --- it was what survived and THRIVED in penicillin. See http://www.folkarts.com/idef/pencillin.htm ================= Again, it is using a model which may or may not apply in your case (but statistically it is more probable than not).... Next time that you go to the dentist, ask your MD if a tetracycline or macrolide would work for mitral valve prolapse... second, take rosavin/Rhodelia Rosea (or any other adaptogen) to see about moderating the adrenelin response. As an FYI, my entirely family is " allergic to penicillin " whenever someone asks... Ken Lassesen 2 @ 2 ft PWC, 2 @ 4ft PWC 2 ft PWC: http://www.folkarts.com/idef/ 4 ft PWC: http://corgi.folkarts.com/ Fax: (520) 832-6836 ICQ #: 2122097 (also Netmeeting with Video) Re: Re: Dental Work Hi All - Has anyone else had severe flares after dental work? After I get any invasive work done, I always have severe fibromyalgia pain whether I use NO or not (which I now don't use because of my extreme reaction to it). Any suggestions about how to prevent this type of FM pain after dental work? I take antibiotics prior to the visits due to mitral valve prolapse (usually amoxycillin) - maybe these are the culprit? Thanks - Jennie --- " Laurie L. " <laurie@...> wrote: > I use nitrous oxide at the dentist, because I'm > sensitive to mouth > pain and get adrenalin rushes etc. with some > procedures there. I > have a mouthful of crowns now. I may be sensitive > to the gas because > I can't tolerate much, they have to turn it down > from their usual > setting (whatever that is) and it takes very little > to send me > floating out the window, but it has made an enormous > difference in my > stress level there. For some of us, it becomes an > interesting trade > off: adrenalin or nitrous. > > I am interested in Dave's ideas (although hoping > very much that it > doesn't apply to me because I love my vegies), and > I'm willing to > give it a go for a couple of weeks and see what > happens. > > Laurie Lassesen > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2000 Report Share Posted July 2, 2000 Sorry my referral to Thought Field Therapy was inappropriate, I was thinking phobias. I did not realize you all were talking about the pain killers and antibiotics. Ooops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2000 Report Share Posted July 9, 2000 hi jo ann, i wiill call my dentist office to ask him the question... he works in a dental clinic in hosptical and we discussed this before but he is conventional not alternative dentis. will send when i get it. dont know why lidocaine does it but i vaguley remmeber reading one of the mds (dr goldstein?) used iv lidocaine drips (past two years was a treatment) take care somish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 In a message dated 3/29/01 12:59:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > Would appreciate any help from those who've been there. I don't really want > to sedate Jordan for the dentist. Does it get any better with time? > > Sorry, Terri, it got worse the older and bigger 's getting! Sedating him for his oral work was the best thing for a more thorough cleaning and checking for cavities.....next to impossible with awake and fighting them! It's not that bad though, and we only do it once a year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2001 Report Share Posted March 30, 2001 In a message dated 3/30/01 5:20:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@... writes: << Sorry, Terri, it got worse the older and bigger 's getting! Sedating him for his oral work was the best thing for a more thorough cleaning and checking for cavities.....next to impossible with awake and fighting them! It's not that bad though, and we only do it once a year.... >> , Do they do it at the office or hospital? Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Hi , What do you use to sedate him? Thanks Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 In a message dated 3/31/01 2:00:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > , > Do they do it at the office or hospital? > Gail > > > At the hospital, as an outpatient service.......took them just 30 minutes to pull a loos tooth, fill one cavity and thoroughly clean his teeth!! Took longer for him to become awake enough to go home though.....LOL.... It really wasn't a bad deal and much better than struggling through a lot of kicking, yelling and hitting if he were awake..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 In a message dated 3/31/01 11:55:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > Hi , What do you use to sedate him? Thanks Terri > > Well, they gave him this stuff to drink, they call it " giggle juice " .....I > haven't a clue as to the medical term for it....it escapes me right now!!! > Makes them drowsy and then they fall asleep.....they have to drink it, only > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Terri, The med that I have heard of them using which we will be trying is called Versed, you need your breathing monitored while you are on it. My pediatric dentist is building a new office which will have a room with monitors for when they have to put kids out. So we will supposedly discuss this later in the summer when the new office is ready. Brook has also been seeing an orthodontist who is the nicest guy and never charges us and has recommended that Brook have baby teeth pulled to make room for the permanent teeth to come in. So we have seen an oral surgeon twice who has extracted teeth in his office and monitored him there. He was given a shot which put him out immediately and the extractions 4 each time were very quickly done and we had no problems. He was drowsy the first time and the second time they gave him the same dose and since he had grown he came out of it easier. Overall it went great. We did have to have a letter from his pediatrician saying that he had to be put out in order for the procedure to be completed and then the insurance did pay. Marisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 In a message dated 5/17/02 8:02:55 PM Central Daylight Time, writes: > That sounds alot like what we had done with Mav. He had 6 teeth extracted > instead of 4.....and no cavities...but the rest was the same. He had his > teeth all extracted at once, in the dental office and he was put under. I > was very nervous since once he was under getting tubes and his heart > stopped, > not a fun time. > But this went real well and they monitored it very closely. I think it > was > less traumatic than being in a hospital setting. > > > > had his dental work done at the hosp. because he was also having his tonsils removed and tubes up in. Most of the kids that I worked with that needed anesthesia for dental work had it done in an outpatient surgery center with a licensed anesthesiologist. To me that is my biggest concern- who is in charge of anesthesiology and what are their credentials? I also don't want the same person that is doing the work also responsible for monitoring him. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 In a message dated 5/18/2002 7:45:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Kvanryzin@... writes: > . Most of the kids that I worked with that > needed anesthesia for dental work had it done in an outpatient surgery > center > with a licensed anesthesiologist. > To me that is my biggest concern- who is in charge of anesthesiology and > what > are their credentials? Yup! That was one of my major concerns also. And it WAS a specialist who was certified to do the anesthesia working with Maverick. I totally agree that you have to have some one qualified doing the work, but it seems to me that most dental surgeons have someone on staff at least part time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Hi Sherrie, Early last year I wrote about my daughter having a dental " Onlay " prior to displaying symptoms of " a lump in her throat. " (An Onlay is much like a cap) We both felt that the procedure of dental anesthesia could have damaged a nerve leading from the brain to the esophagus. If you think about the area where these nerves must pass through from the brain to the various parts of the body it has to be suspected that nerves could be damaged. Also if you think of the process of administering the anesthesia, not a very pleasant thing to think about....But the needle is placed deep in the gum tissue and twisted in various parts of the underlying soft tissue... Of course one could use the argument that most people have dental anesthesia at one time or another, but very few develop Achalasia. And everyone who develops Achalasia has not had dental anesthesia, still we feel that it is the one event that could have led to her getting the disease...We'd like to see further studies of this, but of course no doctor would acknowledge that there could be any connection. I'd like to know how near the nerves that control the esophagus and the les valve are to the site where the nerves are numbed for dental work. Just one thing, was your husband's bridgework done to his lower teeth? That has to be the area where this kind of damage would occur..I must have missed the talk about root canals, but would be interested to know how many were in the lower jaw...I do know that the area of the lower jaw and throat and neck, is a complex conduit for the various body systems that are controlled by the brain, that is virtually all of the body. All of the messages that get to the brain have to pass through this very compact area..I've had surgery of the throat, and there is no room for error in that congested area. Regards, Rosemary dental work > I am writing all this talk about root canals..My husband had a > bridge put in his teeth right before this happened to him. Makes > you go HMMMMMMM. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I've never had a root canal, and I've never even had my wisdom teeth pulled -- I have all four of them right there in the back of my mouth, and they are in great shape. Debbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Debbi Heiser wrote: >I've never had a root canal, and I've never even had my wisdom teeth >pulled -- I have all four of them right there in the back of my mouth, and >they are in great shape. Same here. I did have rough time while the wisdom teeth were coming in. notan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 , one difference I see here is that the bladder and rectum have essentially voluntary sphincters. Granted, they will relax involuntarily (much to our chagrin!) under certain circumstances, but we are able to exercise control over them the vast majority of the time. Not sure how much of a difference that would make WRT biofeedback, but thought I'd mention it. Debbi Thanks for your post regarding the Vagus nerve. Here's a question that's been bugging me for a long time. Given that A is a failure of the LES to relax, and given that bio feedback has helped with other sphincters (works well for incontinence) and "involuntary" biological processes (ie. blood pressure), if the logistical / technical problems were overcome, is there any reason why biofeedback would not work to retrain the LES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Please post, our computer has heavy filters & I cant get to IPADD site harper college has a dental hygiene clinic 15.00 to get your teeth cleaned, no more than around 60 if it has been a really long time. 15 for kids & seniors, 6 for sealants, exam freee, xrays very inexpensive 925-6534 what you dont spend in money you spend in time as students do the work supervised by liscenced DDS & dental hygienists Wisdom Tooth Extraction Posted by: " Pyle Bopkas " teleprovider@... teleprovider Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:15 pm (PDT) My wisdom tooth was erupted and infecting my jaw. It had to go. I visited a general dentist in my town but said that he couldn't do the extraction. The bill was $55 including two xrays. He refer me to a dentist in Palatine who could. It was done successfully and was billed for $120. So, if anybody want to ask where to go for certain dentist work let me know. I still have to find a dentist that can do root canal cost effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 My problem is not only the cost but have to take a trip each week for 5 weeks treatment for root canal. I have a possible dentist that could do it for $400 but have to see what Aunt Martha service got. Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> wrote: > > >From: Joanne Prifti- >Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:17 AM >IPADDUnite >Cc: ELLEN BRONFELD ; teleprovider@... >Subject: dental work > > >Please post, our computer has heavy filters & I cant get to IPADD site > >harper college has a dental hygiene clinic >15.00 to get your teeth cleaned, >no more than around 60 if it has been a really long time. >15 for kids & seniors, >6 for sealants, exam freee, xrays very inexpensive >925-6534 > >what you dont spend in money you spend in time as students do the work >supervised by liscenced DDS & dental hygienists > >Wisdom Tooth Extraction >Posted by: " Pyle Bopkas " mailto:teleprovider%40 teleprovider >Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:15 pm (PDT) >My wisdom tooth was erupted and infecting my jaw. It had to go. > >I visited a general dentist in my town but said that he couldn't do the >extraction. The bill was $55 including two xrays. > >He refer me to a dentist in Palatine who could. It was done successfully and was >billed for $120. > >So, if anybody want to ask where to go for certain dentist work let me know. I >still have to find a dentist that can do root canal cost effectively. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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