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Hi all:

Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved ones

who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one

employable. We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just

the world outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong

mindset that says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable

and not capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not be

too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular school

jobs that were offered...

Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it will

be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement at

least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need

some level of support forever.

I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18 months

in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on natural

supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates. There

was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school to

start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified

for his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year)

which he received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at

no cost to us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer

available to anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what

Laurie mentioned, ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds

that may not last beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this.

Once the funds dry up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job

coach. I don't expect the funds to last forever...

Once again, we have more questions than answers.

Ellen

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Perhaps some of the transition folks on our list here can clarify some of the

STEP information Ellen cites. I know our local schools have accessed this in

the past, but how they've applied the funds seems to vary. Anyone else utilize

job coaches thru a school/STEP program and how did your transition go when your

child turned 22? Did DRS pick up and continue to provide ongoing coaching, or

was it less than ongoing/1:1 direct supervision?

And Ellen, you can pay for ongoing job coaching with your Home Based Support

money. Unless you're already allocating that for other things. The money only

stretches so far, after all.

P.S. It was Terrill, not me, who mentioned the ARRA funds being used for

coaching. I actually did not know that. Ray Graham had gotten ARRA grant money

from DRS (same as you said, though, Ellen, drying up this June) and they were

using it in an innovative way -- to give microenterprises or small business

start-ups owned or operated by individuals with DDs small grants to purchase

start-up support services (website development, publicity plans, business

planning, etc). That was pretty cool.

Laurie

From: ELLEN BRONFELD

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:23 AM

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Subject: Employment, etc...

Hi all:

Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved ones

who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one employable.

We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just the world

outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong mindset that

says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable and not

capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not be

too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular school

jobs that were offered...

Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it will

be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement at

least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need some

level of support forever.

I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18 months

in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on natural

supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates. There

was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school to

start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified for

his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year) which he

received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at no cost to

us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer available to

anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what Laurie mentioned,

ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds that may not last

beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this. Once the funds dry

up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job coach. I don't expect

the funds to last forever...

Once again, we have more questions than answers.

Ellen

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Beth Terrill was in STEP, it gave her work experience during high school.

However the pay was like $2 an hour but it helped her build employment history

and work credits toward SSDI rather than ssi, which is great because then she

could get Medicare in addition to Medicaid!

When she graduated we asked that she transition to a job coach and picked Ray

Graham as our vendor.

Now she is finally on home base and we use part of that money for a job coach.

Ficker Terrill

On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:50 PM, " Jerue Family " <jeruefamily@...> wrote:

> Perhaps some of the transition folks on our list here can clarify some of the

STEP information Ellen cites. I know our local schools have accessed this in the

past, but how they've applied the funds seems to vary. Anyone else utilize job

coaches thru a school/STEP program and how did your transition go when your

child turned 22? Did DRS pick up and continue to provide ongoing coaching, or

was it less than ongoing/1:1 direct supervision?

>

> And Ellen, you can pay for ongoing job coaching with your Home Based Support

money. Unless you're already allocating that for other things. The money only

stretches so far, after all.

>

> P.S. It was Terrill, not me, who mentioned the ARRA funds being used for

coaching. I actually did not know that. Ray Graham had gotten ARRA grant money

from DRS (same as you said, though, Ellen, drying up this June) and they were

using it in an innovative way -- to give microenterprises or small business

start-ups owned or operated by individuals with DDs small grants to purchase

start-up support services (website development, publicity plans, business

planning, etc). That was pretty cool.

>

> Laurie

>

> From: ELLEN BRONFELD

> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:23 AM

> IPADDUnite

> Subject: Employment, etc...

>

> Hi all:

> Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved ones

who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one employable.

We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just the world

outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong mindset that

says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable and not

capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

> If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not

be too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

> Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular school

jobs that were offered...

> Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

> All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it

will be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

> On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement

at least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need some

level of support forever.

> I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

> There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18

months in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on

natural supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates.

There was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

> Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school to

start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified for

his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year) which he

received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at no cost to

us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer available to

anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what Laurie mentioned,

ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds that may not last

beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this. Once the funds dry

up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job coach. I don't expect

the funds to last forever...

> Once again, we have more questions than answers.

> Ellen

>

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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What district was the transition program a part of.

Sincerely,

Maher

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Employment, etc...

>

> Hi all:

> Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved ones

who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one employable.

We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just the world

outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong mindset that

says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable and not

capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

> If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not

be too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

> Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular school

jobs that were offered...

> Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

> All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it

will be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

> On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement

at least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need some

level of support forever.

> I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

> There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18

months in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on

natural supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates.

There was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

> Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school to

start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified for

his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year) which he

received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at no cost to

us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer available to

anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what Laurie mentioned,

ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds that may not last

beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this. Once the funds dry

up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job coach. I don't expect

the funds to last forever...

> Once again, we have more questions than answers.

> Ellen

>

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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District 205 York high school. Elmhurst

Ficker Terrill

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On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:19 PM, kmaher229@... wrote:

> What district was the transition program a part of.

> Sincerely,

>

> Maher

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Employment, etc...

> >

> > Hi all:

> > Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved

ones who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one

employable. We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just the

world outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong mindset

that says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable and not

capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

> > If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not

be too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

> > Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular

school jobs that were offered...

> > Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

> > All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it

will be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

> > On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement

at least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need some

level of support forever.

> > I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

> > There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18

months in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on

natural supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates.

There was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

> > Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school

to start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified

for his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year) which

he received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at no cost

to us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer available

to anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what Laurie

mentioned, ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds that

may not last beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this. Once the

funds dry up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job coach. I don't

expect the funds to last forever...

> > Once again, we have more questions than answers.

> > Ellen

> >

> > Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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> >

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You're right that STEP is through secondary schools.

Here's what DRS says:

http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=35174

The very technical details for providers in the program:

http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=32958

And just useful stuff, vocational & otherwise, from their " Disability & Rehab "

section:

http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=29727

-Gail

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From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 8:50:43 PM

Subject: Re: Employment, etc...

Perhaps some of the transition folks on our list here can clarify some of the

STEP information Ellen cites. I know our local schools have accessed this in

the past, but how they've applied the funds seems to vary. Anyone else utilize

job coaches thru a school/STEP program and how did your transition go when your

child turned 22? Did DRS pick up and continue to provide ongoing coaching, or

was it less than ongoing/1:1 direct supervision?

And Ellen, you can pay for ongoing job coaching with your Home Based Support

money. Unless you're already allocating that for other things. The money only

stretches so far, after all.

P.S. It was Terrill, not me, who mentioned the ARRA funds being used for

coaching. I actually did not know that. Ray Graham had gotten ARRA grant money

from DRS (same as you said, though, Ellen, drying up this June) and they were

using it in an innovative way -- to give microenterprises or small business

start-ups owned or operated by individuals with DDs small grants to purchase

start-up support services (website development, publicity plans, business

planning, etc). That was pretty cool.

Laurie

From: ELLEN BRONFELD

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:23 AM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Employment, etc...

Hi all:

Laurie brought up a really important point about employment of our loved ones

who have disabilities. Many families do not consider their loved one employable.

We have much to do to change the world, and the world isn't just the world

outside of folks with disabilities. There is still a very strong mindset that

says, our children need taking care of...that they are vulnerable and not

capable...that they cannot " do it " ...whatever " it " is...

If students with disabilities are not expected to work, they will likely not be

too cooperative about working. In my humble opinion, everyone can and should

work...but perhaps that is for another discussion.

Perhaps the five families Laurie referenced didn't like the particular school

jobs that were offered...

Choice does matter...Noah was offered a great job in his former Junior High

school. He could have continued his cleaning job there and they would have paid

him, but, Noah doesn't really like sweeping and it was a lot of

sweeping...so...choice may have something to do with whether or not an

individual will accept what is offered.

All that aside, for those families who really see work as the priority, it will

be up to us, primarily to advocate and figure it out. It is even better if

like-minded families can band together to create cooperatives or develop

community resources together.

On another note, the Department of Voc/Rehab (DRS) came out with a statement at

least five years ago about wanting to serve individuals with more significant

challenges. That really never happened, especially as the economy went from bad

to worse. Let's face it, many of our loved ones can work, but they may need some

level of support forever.

I know that Noah will require some assistance to stay focused and on task,

probably forever.

There was and I think still is a commitment to provide job coaches for 18 months

in any new job, with the notion of fading the coach and relying on natural

supports. This was for more more " capable " students and post-graduates. There

was and may still be a program called the STEP Program (not sure what the

acronym stands for) in which a high school student has a case opened with DRS

and the schools and DRS partners in serving the student in job training

situations, providing appropriate job coaches. The students who fit the ideal

profile for STEP are students who have the potential to be close to full time

employable and who would be able to work a job without a coach after a period of

time.

Though Noah didn't fully fit that profile, I managed to convince the school to

start him on the STEP program. After he transitioned at age 21, he qualified for

his 18 months of job coaching. Then we requested an extension (a year) which he

received. Then Noah was fortunate to receive further job coaching at no cost to

us, through an agency grant, which, as you know, is now no longer available to

anyone. Currently, Noah is receiving job coaching through what Laurie mentioned,

ARRA (America Recovery and Reconstruction Act)...federal funds that may not last

beyond June. We have been very, very lucky in all of this. Once the funds dry

up, we will have to figure out a way to pay for his job coach. I don't expect

the funds to last forever...

Once again, we have more questions than answers.

Ellen

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