Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Folks, I've been following this conversation with interest and really appreciate Bob's response. I couldn't jump in sooner as I had my gall bladder out yesterday . how's that for a good excuse. ! If you've ever heard anyone at DHS/DD describe how they came up with the DT rate decades ago, it would make you shudder. It's so ridiculous that I can even hold it in my memory. I want to share a couple of thoughts.. 1. Laurie, I can't remember if your daughter is receiving DT only or if you're paying for it through the Home-Based Support Services (HBSS) program. If she is in HBSS, then you can use some of her funding to get a good functional behavioral analysis and pay someone to help implement it. However, it may be very appropriate to ask you PAS agency to submit your daughter's name for attention from a Support Service Team (SST). another conversation I was ignoring this week, sorry. Here's some information I found on the DHS website about SST's: http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?item=50861. And this service is available whether she is in DT or HBSS. In fact, I don't a person even needs to be currently enrolled in services at all to access them. But, I could be wrong. Having said all that, one of the things I love about HBSS is the opportunity you have to create her own week of activities INSTEAD of DT. At our " Dreaming New Dreams " seminars, I talk a lot about weaving together a week of activities based on that person's skills, desires, dreams, challenges. etc, etc. Then hiring personal support workers to help implement that. That can include work, volunteer, skill building, or just plain fun activities. I really think that a lot (certainly not all) of my son's behavioral challenges were just plain flat based on boredom. One of the cool things about this strategy is that you can also use your funding to pay for transportation. This strategy does have a couple of down sides. I think it can take a lot more work on the part of the family. It can also mess with YOUR work schedule if the personal support worker is sick or has other issues. 2. The second issue I want to touch on are the one or two responses I read to Tony's e-mail Monday about " Outcomes for DD Services " . I didn't save the e-mail but remember the angst about the waiting list vs. " incentizing " a variety of services. I just hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. NOT the conversation. It is a good thoughtful conversation. But the fact that it is even necessary is just so wrong. On one end we have services that are so desperately underfunded that we have the situation that Laurie has been describing this week. On the other end we have 21,000 people in need of services. And I'll tell you I get many of those phone calls here in my office. They just tear at my heart. Be sure to understand that those strategies were offered in response to a SPECIFIC request of the Governor's office.. how to avoid reducing EXISTING services. Plus I've been to enough meetings over the last decade and a half to know that we have structural challenges within our system that " dis-incentivize " the kind of flexible, effective services we all need. You'll see many of those addressed in the Blueprint for System Redesign. I could ramble on at length here. But, I think you get my gist. I respect you all so much and this is so hard. Charlotte From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of Jerue Family Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:27 PM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: Re: Day Programs That's good to know, Bob. Thanks for the info. From: farleylaw@... <mailto:farleylaw%40aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:34 PM IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> Subject: Re: Day Programs Laurie, Unfortunately one size does not fit all. The State pays the same rate to providers for day programming services even though the disabled person may have a need for a higher staff ratio due to their behavioral or other issues. Because of the same rate structure, some agencies will decline to serve a person with high needs because they cannnot hire additional staff with the current rate structure. However, if the agency (assuming a progressive agency) and the parent work together, and determine that the disabled person needs a specific rate to address his or her intense needs, then the parent can contact me and strategize how to get the State to raise the rate for that particular individual. As the result of litigation filed by me on behalf of numerous individuals with specific intense disabilities, the State has increased the rate for those particular individuals. Remember, these are Medicaid programs and Medicaid means medical assistance and your child is entitled to all the assistance he or she needs to address their particular disability. Bob Farley Attorney At Law 630-369-0103 farleylaw@... <mailto:farleylaw%40aol.com> www.farley1.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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