Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Laurie, I first heard about this from my PAS agency (PACT). When I first applied for help, they sent over a social worker to interview us for the personal assistant (Angel was under 18, so they go by the parents assets, we would have had to liquidate my IRA to qualify, and the parent couldn't be the worker) plus we were contacted by Clearbrook. This is great info for those on a wait list. > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS office for this. > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a 54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about $22,000/year. > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay nursing home or institutional care. > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what we did was illegal somehow!) > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > (630) 495-0500 > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > Joliet > (815) 730-4200 > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you if you're deemed eligible. > > Check it out. > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Good to know. My PAS agency (Will County) never said a peep about it. It was a well-kept secret, at least from me. From: cmfinato Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:55 PM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: DHS/DRS Home Services Program Info Laurie, I first heard about this from my PAS agency (PACT). When I first applied for help, they sent over a social worker to interview us for the personal assistant (Angel was under 18, so they go by the parents assets, we would have had to liquidate my IRA to qualify, and the parent couldn't be the worker) plus we were contacted by Clearbrook. This is great info for those on a wait list. > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS office for this. > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a 54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about $22,000/year. > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay nursing home or institutional care. > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what we did was illegal somehow!) > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > (630) 495-0500 > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > Joliet > (815) 730-4200 > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you if you're deemed eligible. > > Check it out. > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 SST is a new initiative advocated for by the Institute on Public Policy for People with Disabilities. The Institute created a voluntary crisis intervention project that Larry Markin was a big contributor to in terms of his volunteer time. It was a team of professional and advocates who would come in to look at potential crisis situations and offer technical assistance. Thanks to Lilia Tenity this has been replaced with SST. I am attaching a fact sheet in hopes that Laurie can attach it for everyone. This is an amazing resource available statewide. Note on Laurie's excellent resource on DRS attendant care waiver. Just to make sure everyone is aware you can no longer be on 2 waivers at the same time effective now. Some people were grandfathered in. If you get Home Base, DHS says you cannot also get the DRS waiver too. Charlotte, Be well darling. I feel your pain. Please rest. Let us know if we can help in any way. have Mike bring you flowers and chocolate. I heard it is better than meds. Terrill  Ficker Terrill, CEO Institute on Public Policy cathyfickerterrill@... 630-202-6701 ________________________________ From: Jerue Family <jeruefamily@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:05:59 AM Subject: Re: Re: DHS/DRS Home Services Program Info  Good to know. My PAS agency (Will County) never said a peep about it. It was a well-kept secret, at least from me. From: cmfinato Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:55 PM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: DHS/DRS Home Services Program Info Laurie, I first heard about this from my PAS agency (PACT). When I first applied for help, they sent over a social worker to interview us for the personal assistant (Angel was under 18, so they go by the parents assets, we would have had to liquidate my IRA to qualify, and the parent couldn't be the worker) plus we were contacted by Clearbrook. This is great info for those on a wait list. > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI >and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD >Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS >Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not >Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS >office for this. > > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or >daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, >in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs >Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do >with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take >medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they >bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go >somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp >knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults >with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you >meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts >based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a >54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about >$22,000/year. > > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services >provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay >nursing home or institutional care. > > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family >member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad >who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's >employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get >paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, >too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for >example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a >PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get >your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to >spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help >privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your >business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what >we did was illegal somehow!) > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county >other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do >not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > (630) 495-0500 > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > Joliet > (815) 730-4200 > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this >Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the >eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver >is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you >if you're deemed eligible. > > > Check it out. > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Application for the Division of Rehabilitation Services (DORS) Home Services program is through your regional DORS office. You can identify yours on the DHS homepage: http://www.dhs.state.il.us/page.aspx?. Scroll to the bottom to the " office locator " . Then select Rehabilitative Offices and your county in the drop down boxes. Your local Center for Independent Living can be of great help. They'll know about the " personality " of you local office and may be able to offer suggestions before you apply. They also often keep lists of personal support workers if that is helpful to you. Charlotte From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of Jerue Family Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:06 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: Re: DHS/DRS Home Services Program Info Good to know. My PAS agency (Will County) never said a peep about it. It was a well-kept secret, at least from me. From: cmfinato Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 9:55 PM IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> Subject: Re: DHS/DRS Home Services Program Info Laurie, I first heard about this from my PAS agency (PACT). When I first applied for help, they sent over a social worker to interview us for the personal assistant (Angel was under 18, so they go by the parents assets, we would have had to liquidate my IRA to qualify, and the parent couldn't be the worker) plus we were contacted by Clearbrook. This is great info for those on a wait list. > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS office for this. > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a 54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about $22,000/year. > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay nursing home or institutional care. > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what we did was illegal somehow!) > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > (630) 495-0500 > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > Joliet > (815) 730-4200 > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you if you're deemed eligible. > > Check it out. > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Hi all. Please note thatthe address for PACT, inc., the Dupage County PAS agency has CHANGED. It is no longer located on Filey Rd in Lombard. The new address is: 750 Warrenville Road Suite 300 Lisle IL 60532-0902 Phone number is: (630) 960-9700 (voice) (331) 481-4347 (TDD) email is www.pact@... Diane S. > > > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI > >and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD > >Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > > > > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS > >Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not > >Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS > >office for this. > > > > > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or > >daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, > >in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs > >Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do > >with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take > >medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they > >bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go > >somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp > >knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults > >with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > > > > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you > >meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts > >based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a > >54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about > >$22,000/year. > > > > > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services > >provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay > >nursing home or institutional care. > > > > > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family > >member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad > >who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's > >employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get > >paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, > >too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > > > > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for > >example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a > >PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get > >your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to > >spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help > >privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your > >business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what > >we did was illegal somehow!) > > > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county > >other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do > >not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > > > > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > > (630) 495-0500 > > > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > > Joliet > > (815) 730-4200 > > > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this > >Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the > >eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver > >is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you > >if you're deemed eligible. > > > > > > Check it out. > > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh oh. Miss smarty pants here didnt read good enough. Sorry the PAS agency is as I stated, but the DHS agency address was correct. Sorry listmates. I goofed. Diane S > > > > Can't stress this enough. If your son/daughter is 18 or older, is receiving SSI and is deemed Medicaid eligible, AND IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THE DD Home & Community Based Support Waiver, pls read on. > > > > There is another Medicaid Waiver in Illinois that could help you. It's a DHS Waiver, but this one is administered thru the Dept of Rehab Services, not Division of DD. So you don't go to your PAS agency, you go to your local DRS office for this. > > > > It's called the Home Services Program, and what it may entitle your son or daughter to are what's known as Personal Assistant or Attendant Care Services, in your home. Eligibility depends on how you score on a Determination of Needs Assessment Scale, or DON. They basically ask you a lot of questions having to do with Activities of Daily Living (can the individual use the phone, take medication safely, get out of the house safely if there's an emergency, can they bathe/shower/groom/dress/etc completely independently, can they get ready to go somewhere independently, can they safely cook a meal for themselves, use sharp knives to cut or prepare food, stay at home alone safely etc etc. Lots of adults with developmental disabilities struggle with these activities of daily living. > > > > THERE IS NO WAITING LIST FOR THIS WAIVER. If you are deemed eligible, and you meet the SSI/Medicaid standards, you are approved for funding, different amounts based on how your individual scores on the DON assessment. My daughter scored a 54 (29 is the minimum) and she was approved for an allotment worth about $22,000/year. > > > > HERE'S THE " CATCH " : Your individual can only use the money to pay for services provided to them in their home, and it has to be necessary to prevent or delay nursing home or institutional care. > > > > HERE'S THE MAGIC: After age 18, your individual can choose to pay a family member, including one of the parents, as caregiver. So that means the mom or dad who does the majority of the caregiving signs up as your son/daughter's employee, and then mom or dad send in timesheets to the state of IL and get paid. Every two weeks. OR you can hire someone of your choosing to do the work, too. Up to you and your son/daughter. > > > > Is it as flexible as the DD Medicaid Waiver? No, in that you can't, for example, set up an automatic payment system for, say, a day program, or for a PSW to go out into the community with your individual. However, once you get your paychecks, and have your taxes withheld on that income, you are free to spend that money however you wish, right? So if some of it went to help privately pay for community helpers, or respite workers, etc. that's your business. (I think - lord help us if the attornies jump in here and tell me what we did was illegal somehow!) > > > > I recently looked up our two local offices for DRS. If you live in a county other than Will or Dupage, you'd need to go to your local DRS office. Again, do not call your PAS agency, they may not know about this Waiver. > > > > Dupage County/Downers Grove DRS Office > > 2901 Finley Road, Downers Grove > > (630) 495-0500 > > > > Will County/Joliet DRS Office > > 1617 W. Jefferson St. > > Joliet > > (815) 730-4200 > > > > If you need more information about what to say, let me know. > > > > The reason I share this is because I have a sinking feeling that when this Waiver comes up for renewal (2012 I believe) Illinois could re-write the eligibility criteria to say 'when funding is available' just like the DD Waiver is written. And then there goes that idea. Right now they still have to fund you if you're deemed eligible. > > > > Check it out. > > www.dhs.state.il.us/page/aspx?item=29738 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 We had some great dialogue about DRS Home Services, Home Based Support Services and SST this week, among other topics. Thanks to everyone for their invaluable contributions! I always learn so much from all of you. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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