Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Thanks, Diane. I can add something to the files & will let the group know where it's located. Probably later this week. Glad you're getting all of these steps figured out. And your advice to others is spot on: When in doubt, read the directions! Most of this is readily available, online, at www.socialsecurity.gov. There are sections on the website to read about SSI, applying for it, questions, etc. Same for SSDI. And then, for those who are looking at work, there's the SSA 'bible' called The Red Book. It's online, too. Thanks for the advice. Laurie From: swedegrl2005 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:24 AM IPADDUnite Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " or 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. Diane S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of Jerue Family Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 7:25 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account Thanks, Diane. I can add something to the files & will let the group know where it's located. Probably later this week. Glad you're getting all of these steps figured out. And your advice to others is spot on: When in doubt, read the directions! Most of this is readily available, online, at www.socialsecurity.gov<http://www.socialsecurity.gov>. There are sections on the website to read about SSI, applying for it, questions, etc. Same for SSDI. And then, for those who are looking at work, there's the SSA 'bible' called The Red Book. It's online, too. Thanks for the advice. Laurie From: swedegrl2005 Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:24 AM IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " or 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. Diane S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Payee Accounts: Â Should also be set up using the adult child's social security number and ONLY the rep payee should be a signer. Â ONLY SSI money should go into this account - no gift money, no working money. From: swedegrl2005 <swedegrl@...> Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account IPADDUnite Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 12:24 AM Â As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " or 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. Diane S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Oh, and the information floweth........... For those of you who will need this info BUT not right now.......... Take this information, and save it so when the time is right, you will not be so stressed, like I was. Diane S. > > Thanks, Diane. I can add something to the files & will let the group know where it's located. Probably later this week. > > Glad you're getting all of these steps figured out. And your advice to others is spot on: When in doubt, read the directions! Most of this is readily available, online, at www.socialsecurity.gov. There are sections on the website to read about SSI, applying for it, questions, etc. Same for SSDI. And then, for those who are looking at work, there's the SSA 'bible' called The Red Book. It's online, too. > > Thanks for the advice. > Laurie > > > > From: swedegrl2005 > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 12:24 AM > IPADDUnite > Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account > > > > As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) > > The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. > > According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " > (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) > > 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " > or > 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " > > I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. > > Diane S. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Ok, I totally understand that statement. So what about the $100 dollars of my money I used to open the account up prior to the 1st installment payment, and then the $200 dollars the bank gave as a promotion to open the account? I would apprciate advise on this. Thanks. Diane S > > > From: swedegrl2005 <swedegrl@...> > Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account > IPADDUnite > Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 12:24 AM > > > Â > > > > As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) > > The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. > > According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " > (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) > > 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " > or > 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " > > I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. > > Diane S. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Diane, this is what happened in our own personal experience: I used some of my money to open up Angel's account. I did note in her records that it was a LOAN from me. This amount was one of the reasons why Angel's funds were over $2000. Once I documented to SSA this loan and proved that it was now transferred back to my account, they removed it from her assets. Angel also received money for opening up the account. At the end of the year, the bank will issue a 1099-INT for that amount and SSA will ask for all of your child's bank statements because let's fact it, an account that 'earned' $200 in interest has to have many thousands of dollars in it. Keep your documentation on this 'bonus' from the bank because SSA WILL question it later. > > > > > > From: swedegrl2005 <swedegrl@> > > Subject: How to Set Up Representative Payee Account > > IPADDUnite > > Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 12:24 AM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > As promised, once I found out, I would share. Really it is very simple, just as I suspected. This is one of the simple questions I was speaking about a week or so ago, that should be very easy to share the answers. (It's not taking away anyones livelyhood.) > > > > The question was: How to name/ title the account that will be set up solely to receive the SSI funds and ONLY the SSI funds. > > > > According to the Social Security Manual titles " A Guide for Representative Payees " > > (on page 11): Here's two ways: (the wording is straight from the manual word for word) > > > > 1) " {Beneficiary's name} " by [your name], representative payee. " > > or > > 2) " [Your name], representative payee for {beneficiary's name}. " > > > > I hope this infromation can be retained in some way in files. However, since this is not my personal advise but quoted using the SS manual they hand out as a reference, maybe the page (p.17) can be copied or something. > > > > Diane S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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