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Speaking as an Aspergian woman who also a conservative I hope the GOP DIDN'T go

along with any tax hike.

The business climate in Illinois is already so toxic that even without my

Asperger's I'd have a difficult time finding a job.

A tax hike on top of the already outrageous taxes paid already is the LAST thing

citizens of this state-Aspergian or otherwise-need. It bothers me that those

that supposedly are advocating for those such as myself are such big

cheerleaders for big government. I don't want a handout-I WANT A JOB! By

lowering taxes and creating other incentives that make businesses want to come

to Illinois and in turn take chances on those that are 'differently-abled'; is

what people like me need. Illinois needs to do things to encourage to the

free-market to do what it does best. Raising taxes to pay for pet entitlements

aren't going to help me now and will come back to bite my family's wallet later.

IPADDUnite

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:01:59 -0600

Subject: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

FYI

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

The Arc of Illinois

January 4, 2011

Leaders in The Arc:

Make sure you make your calls to the Capitol today supporting new revenue!

The Governor and the Democratic Leaders met yesterday to discuss new revenue and

those discussions will continue today. They are talking about new revenue

options I have been sharing with you for quite some time. They include increase

the income tax by 1% or 2%, either temporary or permanent. They are also talking

about other new revenue and further budget cuts.

See story from the Chicago Tribune on the Governors meeting yesterday.

Today, I meet with the Illinois Council of Executives of The Arc to discuss

managed care and other important issues.

Tony auski

The Arc of Illinois

815-464-1832

Top Dems struggle to beat tax-hike clock

Lame-duck session ends soon, but devil in details: 1 or 2 percentage points?

Would it get GOP votes?

By , Ray Long and Todd , Tribune reporters

10:00 PM CST, January 4, 2011

SPRINGFIELD Top Illinois Democrats huddled behind closed doors for hours Tuesday

as they scurry to piece together a major income tax increase to ease the state's

long-festering budget woes before a rapidly closing window to get something done

shuts in a week.

For Gov. Pat Quinn, House Speaker Madigan and Senate President

Cullerton, the sticking points are substantial: How big a tax hike should be,

how long it should last and how the money should be spent.

While more discussions are scheduled for Wednesday, prospects for a tax increase

aren't much further along than they were a year and a half ago. The Senate

already approved one, but the lingering question is whether Madigan will push

ahead in his Democrat-controlled House if Republicans won't put enough votes on

it.

As is often the case, Madigan wasn't saying much. " We expect that there'll be

some support from the other side of the aisle, " Madigan said as he departed an

afternoon legislative hearing.

But internal polling of Madigan's House Democrats showed significant support for

a temporary 1-percentage-point increase in the state's 3 percent personal income

tax rate, with some arguing the hike would be too small to fix Illinois'

long-term budget imbalance, said a source familiar with the vote-counting effort

who was not authorized to speak publicly.

There's also the usual partisan acrimony. In hopes of getting a few Republicans

on board, Democrats are dangling workers' compensation reforms to ease the

burden on businesses and moving low-income Medicaid recipients into managed

health care programs.

House Republican leader Tom Cross of Oswego said he believes Democrats simply

are seeking cover for a tax hike by floating those ideas as well as a proposed

state constitutional amendment to limit government spending.

" I think it's clear (Democrats) are attempting to make a case that they believe

will justify their raising of the income tax by as much as 66 percent and they

will do that by limited reform in the areas of Medicaid and workers' comp, "

Cross said. " But they woefully fall short on pension reform, limiting spending

and even some more cutting. They've really done nothing on (creating) jobs. "

The rush to act is the result of the calendar. The Capitol is in the final

throes of a short lame-duck period before a new General Assembly is sworn in

Jan. 12.

Many Democrats were reluctant to champion a tax hike before they won re-election

in November, but some of those will likely be relied on for votes to pass any

tax hike now. After years of frustration over the budget, the tension was

palpable.

" Whatever we're going to do, I want to get the damned thing over with, " said

Rep. Joe Lyons, D-Chicago. " We've got a short period of time before the lame

ducks are no longer ducks on the pond here. So we've got to do something in the

next few days. I'm willing to go along with almost anything as long as we move

forward on this. "

Quinn has been uncharacteristically silent as he works with legislative leaders.

Since taking over for ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich nearly two years ago, Quinn has

been criticized for quickly proposing tax increases but not sticking to any one

plan, for laying down ultimatums and then backing away.

The governor also is floating the idea of borrowing approximately $14 billion,

to be repaid over 14 years, largely to catch up on a backlog of unpaid bills,

fully fund state worker pensions this budget year and help pay the costs for

next year, a key lawmaker said. The borrowing would be repaid by raising the

income tax rate by a quarter- or half-percentage point, above any other tax hike

lawmakers might approve.

Quinn declined to talk to reporters Tuesday, heading back to the governor's

mansion for a second night of cocktails with a small group of lawmakers.

Democratic leaders are trying to craft a plan that can get enough votes in the

House because the Senate already approved a measure in May 2009 to permanently

raise the income tax rate to 5 percent.

The problem is trying to fit the right pieces into a complex puzzle. One idea

would be a temporary tax increase of two to five years that would raise the

income tax rate by up to 2 percentage points. That would be used to drive down

the budget deficit and stabilize the state's finances.

These broad outlines remained " pretty accurate, " Cullerton said Tuesday night in

his Capitol office.

One factor that could hurt Democratic support is Quinn's reluctance to agree to

limit state spending at current-year levels or lower. A spending cap has been a

condition for some downstate Democrats to back an income tax hike.

Rep. Mark Beaubien, R-Barrington Hills, said he believes a couple of Republican

lawmakers are leaning toward supporting an income tax hike, even if " the vast

majority " will oppose. He blamed the lack of interest partly on Democrats for

running up the spending under Blagojevich and Quinn since 2003, with Republicans

mostly on the sidelines during that time.

" We've had eight years in the wilderness, " Beaubien said. " We did not create the

problem. If (Democrats) want to pass the income tax increase, they can do it. "

Cullerton would not predict whether a tax increase would pass, but he tried to

temper a potential backlash from a tax-weary public. A key decision will be how

the funds from a new tax hike would be distributed, whether some would go to

education or all of it to help relieve the $8 billion backlog of overdue bills.

" I think it depends on how people look at it, " Cullerton said. " I think what we

have to do is pay off bills. That's a huge, important part of our national image

as well as importance to our economy. "

Lyons conceded that taking a tax-hike vote now could have widespread

repercussions. Lawmakers will be running in newly drawn districts following the

results of the new U.S. census. And few are itching to give any future opponents

some anti-tax fodder to use in the 2012 campaign.

" It's political suicide for a lot of people, and we all know that, but the right

thing has to be done here, " Lyons said. " Being popular isn't always right. Being

right isn't always popular. The old cliche is so applicable toward this thing.

It's sad. "

Tribune reporter Rick Pearson contributed from Chicago.

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Hi Barbara:

Thanks for weighing in on the tax vs no tax issue...always good and very

important to get various thoughts and opinions...The more we know, the better

decisions we can all make.

I would argue that taxes are not being raised to fund pet projects, but to pay

down the enormous debt the state has incurred and the taxes are supposed to (I

know we have to have a leap of faith, here...) help fund core services as well

as education... I totally agree that economic development and jobs should be two

major priorities in Illinois, along with pension reform.

Ellen

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Hi Barbara, I, like you, do not like paying more taxes than I have to. However

if you look at Braddock's studies which are published every 5 years in The

STATE of the STATES, you will see that the states that have the best services

all have income tax rates in excess of 5.5%. When I lived in MA, the MA Arc and

other advocacy groups opposed the reduction in taxes pushed by then Gov. Celucci

from 5.8% to 5.3%. We feared this reduction would result in significant loss of

services. About 20 of us took out a personal half page ad in the Boston Globe

expressing our concerns about the anticipated loss of services for the elderly

and persons with disabilities. We were unsuccessful from keeping the taxes from

rolling back and sure enough, as we predicted, the services in MA are no where

near at the level as they were before the tax roll back.

In my work, parents ask me all the time " what state can I retire to that will

have low taxes and good services " . My answer has always been " take your pick " .

You can have low taxes but you can't expect good services with less than a 5%

tax rate.

I want you to know this is not a partisan position. Celucci was a friend of

mine. I and my daughter, , worked on his campaign. However once

governor, he wanted to be appointed ambassador of Canada badly. To do so, he

had to win the approval of Jessie Helms (now deceased). had previously

supported excellent programs for the elderly and disabled but to secure the

blessings of Helms he began to talk the talk and walk the walk of a fiscal and

social conservative and in his last two years of office cut the tax rate and the

budget accordingly. got his ambassadorship and we parents in MA were left

with far fewer services. Ahhh, politics, ya gotta love it!. Terrie Varnet

________________________________

From: Barbara Murvihill <brmurv@...>

Marie <ipaddunite >

Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:44:53 PM

Subject: RE: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

Speaking as an Aspergian woman who also a conservative I hope the GOP DIDN'T go

along with any tax hike.

The business climate in Illinois is already so toxic that even without my

Asperger's I'd have a difficult time finding a job.

A tax hike on top of the already outrageous taxes paid already is the LAST thing

citizens of this state-Aspergian or otherwise-need. It bothers me that those

that supposedly are advocating for those such as myself are such big

cheerleaders for big government. I don't want a handout-I WANT A JOB! By

lowering taxes and creating other incentives that make businesses want to come

to Illinois and in turn take chances on those that are 'differently-abled'; is

what people like me need. Illinois needs to do things to encourage to the

free-market to do what it does best. Raising taxes to pay for pet entitlements

aren't going to help me now and will come back to bite my family's wallet later.

IPADDUnite

From: egskb@...

Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:01:59 -0600

Subject: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

FYI

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

The Arc of Illinois

January 4, 2011

Leaders in The Arc:

Make sure you make your calls to the Capitol today supporting new revenue!

The Governor and the Democratic Leaders met yesterday to discuss new revenue and

those discussions will continue today. They are talking about new revenue

options I have been sharing with you for quite some time. They include increase

the income tax by 1% or 2%, either temporary or permanent. They are also talking

about other new revenue and further budget cuts.

See story from the Chicago Tribune on the Governors meeting yesterday.

Today, I meet with the Illinois Council of Executives of The Arc to discuss

managed care and other important issues.

Tony auski

The Arc of Illinois

815-464-1832

Top Dems struggle to beat tax-hike clock

Lame-duck session ends soon, but devil in details: 1 or 2 percentage points?

Would it get GOP votes?

By , Ray Long and Todd , Tribune reporters

10:00 PM CST, January 4, 2011

SPRINGFIELD Top Illinois Democrats huddled behind closed doors for hours Tuesday

as they scurry to piece together a major income tax increase to ease the state's

long-festering budget woes before a rapidly closing window to get something done

shuts in a week.

For Gov. Pat Quinn, House Speaker Madigan and Senate President

Cullerton, the sticking points are substantial: How big a tax hike should be,

how long it should last and how the money should be spent.

While more discussions are scheduled for Wednesday, prospects for a tax increase

aren't much further along than they were a year and a half ago. The Senate

already approved one, but the lingering question is whether Madigan will push

ahead in his Democrat-controlled House if Republicans won't put enough votes on

it.

As is often the case, Madigan wasn't saying much. " We expect that there'll be

some support from the other side of the aisle, " Madigan said as he departed an

afternoon legislative hearing.

But internal polling of Madigan's House Democrats showed significant support for

a temporary 1-percentage-point increase in the state's 3 percent personal income

tax rate, with some arguing the hike would be too small to fix Illinois'

long-term budget imbalance, said a source familiar with the vote-counting effort

who was not authorized to speak publicly.

There's also the usual partisan acrimony. In hopes of getting a few Republicans

on board, Democrats are dangling workers' compensation reforms to ease the

burden on businesses and moving low-income Medicaid recipients into managed

health care programs.

House Republican leader Tom Cross of Oswego said he believes Democrats simply

are seeking cover for a tax hike by floating those ideas as well as a proposed

state constitutional amendment to limit government spending.

" I think it's clear (Democrats) are attempting to make a case that they believe

will justify their raising of the income tax by as much as 66 percent and they

will do that by limited reform in the areas of Medicaid and workers' comp, "

Cross said. " But they woefully fall short on pension reform, limiting spending

and even some more cutting. They've really done nothing on (creating) jobs. "

The rush to act is the result of the calendar. The Capitol is in the final

throes of a short lame-duck period before a new General Assembly is sworn in

Jan. 12.

Many Democrats were reluctant to champion a tax hike before they won re-election

in November, but some of those will likely be relied on for votes to pass any

tax hike now. After years of frustration over the budget, the tension was

palpable.

" Whatever we're going to do, I want to get the damned thing over with, " said

Rep. Joe Lyons, D-Chicago. " We've got a short period of time before the lame

ducks are no longer ducks on the pond here. So we've got to do something in the

next few days. I'm willing to go along with almost anything as long as we move

forward on this. "

Quinn has been uncharacteristically silent as he works with legislative leaders.

Since taking over for ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich nearly two years ago, Quinn has

been criticized for quickly proposing tax increases but not sticking to any one

plan, for laying down ultimatums and then backing away.

The governor also is floating the idea of borrowing approximately $14 billion,

to be repaid over 14 years, largely to catch up on a backlog of unpaid bills,

fully fund state worker pensions this budget year and help pay the costs for

next year, a key lawmaker said. The borrowing would be repaid by raising the

income tax rate by a quarter- or half-percentage point, above any other tax hike

lawmakers might approve.

Quinn declined to talk to reporters Tuesday, heading back to the governor's

mansion for a second night of cocktails with a small group of lawmakers.

Democratic leaders are trying to craft a plan that can get enough votes in the

House because the Senate already approved a measure in May 2009 to permanently

raise the income tax rate to 5 percent.

The problem is trying to fit the right pieces into a complex puzzle. One idea

would be a temporary tax increase of two to five years that would raise the

income tax rate by up to 2 percentage points. That would be used to drive down

the budget deficit and stabilize the state's finances.

These broad outlines remained " pretty accurate, " Cullerton said Tuesday night in

his Capitol office.

One factor that could hurt Democratic support is Quinn's reluctance to agree to

limit state spending at current-year levels or lower. A spending cap has been a

condition for some downstate Democrats to back an income tax hike.

Rep. Mark Beaubien, R-Barrington Hills, said he believes a couple of Republican

lawmakers are leaning toward supporting an income tax hike, even if " the vast

majority " will oppose. He blamed the lack of interest partly on Democrats for

running up the spending under Blagojevich and Quinn since 2003, with Republicans

mostly on the sidelines during that time.

" We've had eight years in the wilderness, " Beaubien said. " We did not create the

problem. If (Democrats) want to pass the income tax increase, they can do it. "

Cullerton would not predict whether a tax increase would pass, but he tried to

temper a potential backlash from a tax-weary public. A key decision will be how

the funds from a new tax hike would be distributed, whether some would go to

education or all of it to help relieve the $8 billion backlog of overdue bills.

" I think it depends on how people look at it, " Cullerton said. " I think what we

have to do is pay off bills. That's a huge, important part of our national image

as well as importance to our economy. "

Lyons conceded that taking a tax-hike vote now could have widespread

repercussions. Lawmakers will be running in newly drawn districts following the

results of the new U.S. census. And few are itching to give any future opponents

some anti-tax fodder to use in the 2012 campaign.

" It's political suicide for a lot of people, and we all know that, but the right

thing has to be done here, " Lyons said. " Being popular isn't always right. Being

right isn't always popular. The old cliche is so applicable toward this thing.

It's sad. "

Tribune reporter Rick Pearson contributed from Chicago.

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As usual, I agree with Terrie. Notwithstanding, we, as advocates, MUST " work "

to make sure that the DD population benefits from any increase. Also, please

remember that the proposal is only a temporary rate increase which reverts in

several years to a rate under 4%. We are in need of a permanent increase in

order to properly fund human services and move Illinois from the bottom of

states to even close to the middle of states.

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Hi Barbara, I, like you, do not like paying more taxes than I have to. However

if you look at Braddock's studies which are published every 5 years in The

STATE of the STATES, you will see that the states that have the best services

all have income tax rates in excess of 5.5%. When I lived in MA, the MA Arc and

other advocacy groups opposed the reduction in taxes pushed by then Gov. Celucci

from 5.8% to 5.3%. We feared this reduction would result in significant loss of

services. About 20 of us took out a personal half page ad in the Boston Globe

expressing our concerns about the anticipated loss of services for the elderly

and persons with disabilities. We were unsuccessful from keeping the taxes from

rolling back and sure enough, as we predicted, the services in MA are no where

near at the level as they were before the tax roll back.

In my work, parents ask me all the time " what state can I retire to that will

have low taxes and good services " . My answer has always been " take your pick " .

You can have low taxes but you can't expect good services with less than a 5%

tax rate.

I want you to know this is not a partisan position. Celucci was a friend of

mine. I and my daughter, , worked on his campaign. However once

governor, he wanted to be appointed ambassador of Canada badly. To do so, he

had to win the approval of Jessie Helms (now deceased). had previously

supported excellent programs for the elderly and disabled but to secure the

blessings of Helms he began to talk the talk and walk the walk of a fiscal and

social conservative and in his last two years of office cut the tax rate and the

budget accordingly. got his ambassadorship and we parents in MA were left

with far fewer services. Ahhh, politics, ya gotta love it!. Terrie Varnet

________________________________

From: Barbara Murvihill <brmurv@...<mailto:brmurv%40hotmail.com>>

Marie <ipaddunite <mailto:ipaddunite%40>>

Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:44:53 PM

Subject: RE: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

Speaking as an Aspergian woman who also a conservative I hope the GOP DIDN'T go

along with any tax hike.

The business climate in Illinois is already so toxic that even without my

Asperger's I'd have a difficult time finding a job.

A tax hike on top of the already outrageous taxes paid already is the LAST thing

citizens of this state-Aspergian or otherwise-need. It bothers me that those

that supposedly are advocating for those such as myself are such big

cheerleaders for big government. I don't want a handout-I WANT A JOB! By

lowering taxes and creating other incentives that make businesses want to come

to Illinois and in turn take chances on those that are 'differently-abled'; is

what people like me need. Illinois needs to do things to encourage to the

free-market to do what it does best. Raising taxes to pay for pet entitlements

aren't going to help me now and will come back to bite my family's wallet later.

IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>

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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:01:59 -0600

Subject: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

FYI

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...<mailto:egskb%40sbcglobal.net>

Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

The Arc of Illinois

January 4, 2011

Leaders in The Arc:

Make sure you make your calls to the Capitol today supporting new revenue!

The Governor and the Democratic Leaders met yesterday to discuss new revenue and

those discussions will continue today. They are talking about new revenue

options I have been sharing with you for quite some time. They include increase

the income tax by 1% or 2%, either temporary or permanent. They are also talking

about other new revenue and further budget cuts.

See story from the Chicago Tribune on the Governors meeting yesterday.

Today, I meet with the Illinois Council of Executives of The Arc to discuss

managed care and other important issues.

Tony auski

The Arc of Illinois

815-464-1832

Top Dems struggle to beat tax-hike clock

Lame-duck session ends soon, but devil in details: 1 or 2 percentage points?

Would it get GOP votes?

By , Ray Long and Todd , Tribune reporters

10:00 PM CST, January 4, 2011

SPRINGFIELD Top Illinois Democrats huddled behind closed doors for hours Tuesday

as they scurry to piece together a major income tax increase to ease the state's

long-festering budget woes before a rapidly closing window to get something done

shuts in a week.

For Gov. Pat Quinn, House Speaker Madigan and Senate President

Cullerton, the sticking points are substantial: How big a tax hike should be,

how long it should last and how the money should be spent.

While more discussions are scheduled for Wednesday, prospects for a tax increase

aren't much further along than they were a year and a half ago. The Senate

already approved one, but the lingering question is whether Madigan will push

ahead in his Democrat-controlled House if Republicans won't put enough votes on

it.

As is often the case, Madigan wasn't saying much. " We expect that there'll be

some support from the other side of the aisle, " Madigan said as he departed an

afternoon legislative hearing.

But internal polling of Madigan's House Democrats showed significant support for

a temporary 1-percentage-point increase in the state's 3 percent personal income

tax rate, with some arguing the hike would be too small to fix Illinois'

long-term budget imbalance, said a source familiar with the vote-counting effort

who was not authorized to speak publicly.

There's also the usual partisan acrimony. In hopes of getting a few Republicans

on board, Democrats are dangling workers' compensation reforms to ease the

burden on businesses and moving low-income Medicaid recipients into managed

health care programs.

House Republican leader Tom Cross of Oswego said he believes Democrats simply

are seeking cover for a tax hike by floating those ideas as well as a proposed

state constitutional amendment to limit government spending.

" I think it's clear (Democrats) are attempting to make a case that they believe

will justify their raising of the income tax by as much as 66 percent and they

will do that by limited reform in the areas of Medicaid and workers' comp, "

Cross said. " But they woefully fall short on pension reform, limiting spending

and even some more cutting. They've really done nothing on (creating) jobs. "

The rush to act is the result of the calendar. The Capitol is in the final

throes of a short lame-duck period before a new General Assembly is sworn in

Jan. 12.

Many Democrats were reluctant to champion a tax hike before they won re-election

in November, but some of those will likely be relied on for votes to pass any

tax hike now. After years of frustration over the budget, the tension was

palpable.

" Whatever we're going to do, I want to get the damned thing over with, " said

Rep. Joe Lyons, D-Chicago. " We've got a short period of time before the lame

ducks are no longer ducks on the pond here. So we've got to do something in the

next few days. I'm willing to go along with almost anything as long as we move

forward on this. "

Quinn has been uncharacteristically silent as he works with legislative leaders.

Since taking over for ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich nearly two years ago, Quinn has

been criticized for quickly proposing tax increases but not sticking to any one

plan, for laying down ultimatums and then backing away.

The governor also is floating the idea of borrowing approximately $14 billion,

to be repaid over 14 years, largely to catch up on a backlog of unpaid bills,

fully fund state worker pensions this budget year and help pay the costs for

next year, a key lawmaker said. The borrowing would be repaid by raising the

income tax rate by a quarter- or half-percentage point, above any other tax hike

lawmakers might approve.

Quinn declined to talk to reporters Tuesday, heading back to the governor's

mansion for a second night of cocktails with a small group of lawmakers.

Democratic leaders are trying to craft a plan that can get enough votes in the

House because the Senate already approved a measure in May 2009 to permanently

raise the income tax rate to 5 percent.

The problem is trying to fit the right pieces into a complex puzzle. One idea

would be a temporary tax increase of two to five years that would raise the

income tax rate by up to 2 percentage points. That would be used to drive down

the budget deficit and stabilize the state's finances.

These broad outlines remained " pretty accurate, " Cullerton said Tuesday night in

his Capitol office.

One factor that could hurt Democratic support is Quinn's reluctance to agree to

limit state spending at current-year levels or lower. A spending cap has been a

condition for some downstate Democrats to back an income tax hike.

Rep. Mark Beaubien, R-Barrington Hills, said he believes a couple of Republican

lawmakers are leaning toward supporting an income tax hike, even if " the vast

majority " will oppose. He blamed the lack of interest partly on Democrats for

running up the spending under Blagojevich and Quinn since 2003, with Republicans

mostly on the sidelines during that time.

" We've had eight years in the wilderness, " Beaubien said. " We did not create the

problem. If (Democrats) want to pass the income tax increase, they can do it. "

Cullerton would not predict whether a tax increase would pass, but he tried to

temper a potential backlash from a tax-weary public. A key decision will be how

the funds from a new tax hike would be distributed, whether some would go to

education or all of it to help relieve the $8 billion backlog of overdue bills.

" I think it depends on how people look at it, " Cullerton said. " I think what we

have to do is pay off bills. That's a huge, important part of our national image

as well as importance to our economy. "

Lyons conceded that taking a tax-hike vote now could have widespread

repercussions. Lawmakers will be running in newly drawn districts following the

results of the new U.S. census. And few are itching to give any future opponents

some anti-tax fodder to use in the 2012 campaign.

" It's political suicide for a lot of people, and we all know that, but the right

thing has to be done here, " Lyons said. " Being popular isn't always right. Being

right isn't always popular. The old cliche is so applicable toward this thing.

It's sad. "

Tribune reporter Rick Pearson contributed from Chicago.

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I think it is impoortant to remember, As far as does anyone " need a handout " and

whether or not that translates into getting a job, is not the issue. Keeping the

current funding intact if at all possible and the goal being increase funding

for vocation opportunities and supports. Putting the taxes issue aside for one

moment......

I think while it may be true that some individuals who have higher abilities

and/ or skills who feel that may not really benefit much from what some might

call " handout services " (if that's what they claim to be the case for them),

there is a whole other group of individuals with more challenges in the

behavioral areas, and more challenges with vocational skill s. For these

individuals, they may need that what some are calling " a handout " . Still I do

not consider any funding assistance to any individual " a handout " .

Just my 2 cents.

Diane S

>

> Hi Barbara, I, like you, do not like paying more taxes than I have to.

However

> if you look at Braddock's studies which are published every 5 years in

The

> STATE of the STATES, you will see that the states that have the best services

> all have income tax rates in excess of 5.5%. When I lived in MA, the MA Arc

and

> other advocacy groups opposed the reduction in taxes pushed by then Gov.

Celucci

> from 5.8% to 5.3%. We feared this reduction would result in significant loss

of

> services. About 20 of us took out a personal half page ad in the Boston Globe

> expressing our concerns about the anticipated loss of services for the elderly

> and persons with disabilities. We were unsuccessful from keeping the taxes

from

> rolling back and sure enough, as we predicted, the services in MA are no where

> near at the level as they were before the tax roll back.

>

>

> In my work, parents ask me all the time " what state can I retire to that will

> have low taxes and good services " . My answer has always been " take your

pick " .

> You can have low taxes but you can't expect good services with less than a 5%

> tax rate.

>

>

> I want you to know this is not a partisan position. Celucci was a friend

of

> mine. I and my daughter, , worked on his campaign. However once

> governor, he wanted to be appointed ambassador of Canada badly. To do so, he

> had to win the approval of Jessie Helms (now deceased). had previously

> supported excellent programs for the elderly and disabled but to secure the

> blessings of Helms he began to talk the talk and walk the walk of a fiscal and

> social conservative and in his last two years of office cut the tax rate and

the

> budget accordingly. got his ambassadorship and we parents in MA were

left

> with far fewer services. Ahhh, politics, ya gotta love it!. Terrie Varnet

>

>

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>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Barbara Murvihill <brmurv@...>

> Marie <ipaddunite >

> Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 2:44:53 PM

> Subject: RE: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

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> Speaking as an Aspergian woman who also a conservative I hope the GOP DIDN'T

go

> along with any tax hike.

>

> The business climate in Illinois is already so toxic that even without my

> Asperger's I'd have a difficult time finding a job.

> A tax hike on top of the already outrageous taxes paid already is the LAST

thing

> citizens of this state-Aspergian or otherwise-need. It bothers me that those

> that supposedly are advocating for those such as myself are such big

> cheerleaders for big government. I don't want a handout-I WANT A JOB! By

> lowering taxes and creating other incentives that make businesses want to come

> to Illinois and in turn take chances on those that are 'differently-abled'; is

> what people like me need. Illinois needs to do things to encourage to the

> free-market to do what it does best. Raising taxes to pay for pet entitlements

> aren't going to help me now and will come back to bite my family's wallet

later.

>

> IPADDUnite

> From: egskb@...

> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:01:59 -0600

> Subject: Fw: Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

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> Ellen

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> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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> egskb@...

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> Arc and Dems Struggle to Beat Tax Hike Clock

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> The Arc of Illinois

>

>

>

> January 4, 2011

>

>

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

>

>

> Make sure you make your calls to the Capitol today supporting new revenue!

>

>

>

> The Governor and the Democratic Leaders met yesterday to discuss new revenue

and

> those discussions will continue today. They are talking about new revenue

> options I have been sharing with you for quite some time. They include

increase

> the income tax by 1% or 2%, either temporary or permanent. They are also

talking

> about other new revenue and further budget cuts.

>

>

>

> See story from the Chicago Tribune on the Governors meeting yesterday.

>

>

>

> Today, I meet with the Illinois Council of Executives of The Arc to discuss

> managed care and other important issues.

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>

> Tony auski

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> The Arc of Illinois

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> Top Dems struggle to beat tax-hike clock

>

> Lame-duck session ends soon, but devil in details: 1 or 2 percentage points?

> Would it get GOP votes?

>

>

> By , Ray Long and Todd , Tribune reporters

>

>

>

> 10:00 PM CST, January 4, 2011

>

>

>

> SPRINGFIELD Top Illinois Democrats huddled behind closed doors for hours

Tuesday

> as they scurry to piece together a major income tax increase to ease the

state's

> long-festering budget woes before a rapidly closing window to get something

done

> shuts in a week.

>

>

>

> For Gov. Pat Quinn, House Speaker Madigan and Senate President

> Cullerton, the sticking points are substantial: How big a tax hike should be,

> how long it should last and how the money should be spent.

>

>

>

> While more discussions are scheduled for Wednesday, prospects for a tax

increase

> aren't much further along than they were a year and a half ago. The Senate

> already approved one, but the lingering question is whether Madigan will push

> ahead in his Democrat-controlled House if Republicans won't put enough votes

on

> it.

>

>

>

> As is often the case, Madigan wasn't saying much. " We expect that there'll be

> some support from the other side of the aisle, " Madigan said as he departed an

> afternoon legislative hearing.

>

>

>

> But internal polling of Madigan's House Democrats showed significant support

for

> a temporary 1-percentage-point increase in the state's 3 percent personal

income

> tax rate, with some arguing the hike would be too small to fix Illinois'

> long-term budget imbalance, said a source familiar with the vote-counting

effort

> who was not authorized to speak publicly.

>

>

>

> There's also the usual partisan acrimony. In hopes of getting a few

Republicans

> on board, Democrats are dangling workers' compensation reforms to ease the

> burden on businesses and moving low-income Medicaid recipients into managed

> health care programs.

>

>

>

> House Republican leader Tom Cross of Oswego said he believes Democrats simply

> are seeking cover for a tax hike by floating those ideas as well as a proposed

> state constitutional amendment to limit government spending.

>

>

>

> " I think it's clear (Democrats) are attempting to make a case that they

believe

> will justify their raising of the income tax by as much as 66 percent and they

> will do that by limited reform in the areas of Medicaid and workers' comp, "

> Cross said. " But they woefully fall short on pension reform, limiting spending

> and even some more cutting. They've really done nothing on (creating) jobs. "

>

>

>

> The rush to act is the result of the calendar. The Capitol is in the final

> throes of a short lame-duck period before a new General Assembly is sworn in

> Jan. 12.

>

>

>

> Many Democrats were reluctant to champion a tax hike before they won

re-election

> in November, but some of those will likely be relied on for votes to pass any

> tax hike now. After years of frustration over the budget, the tension was

> palpable.

>

>

>

> " Whatever we're going to do, I want to get the damned thing over with, " said

> Rep. Joe Lyons, D-Chicago. " We've got a short period of time before the lame

> ducks are no longer ducks on the pond here. So we've got to do something in

the

> next few days. I'm willing to go along with almost anything as long as we move

> forward on this. "

>

>

>

> Quinn has been uncharacteristically silent as he works with legislative

leaders.

> Since taking over for ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich nearly two years ago, Quinn has

> been criticized for quickly proposing tax increases but not sticking to any

one

> plan, for laying down ultimatums and then backing away.

>

>

>

> The governor also is floating the idea of borrowing approximately $14 billion,

> to be repaid over 14 years, largely to catch up on a backlog of unpaid bills,

> fully fund state worker pensions this budget year and help pay the costs for

> next year, a key lawmaker said. The borrowing would be repaid by raising the

> income tax rate by a quarter- or half-percentage point, above any other tax

hike

> lawmakers might approve.

>

>

>

> Quinn declined to talk to reporters Tuesday, heading back to the governor's

> mansion for a second night of cocktails with a small group of lawmakers.

>

>

>

> Democratic leaders are trying to craft a plan that can get enough votes in the

> House because the Senate already approved a measure in May 2009 to permanently

> raise the income tax rate to 5 percent.

>

>

>

> The problem is trying to fit the right pieces into a complex puzzle. One idea

> would be a temporary tax increase of two to five years that would raise the

> income tax rate by up to 2 percentage points. That would be used to drive down

> the budget deficit and stabilize the state's finances.

>

>

>

> These broad outlines remained " pretty accurate, " Cullerton said Tuesday night

in

> his Capitol office.

>

>

>

> One factor that could hurt Democratic support is Quinn's reluctance to agree

to

> limit state spending at current-year levels or lower. A spending cap has been

a

> condition for some downstate Democrats to back an income tax hike.

>

>

>

> Rep. Mark Beaubien, R-Barrington Hills, said he believes a couple of

Republican

> lawmakers are leaning toward supporting an income tax hike, even if " the vast

> majority " will oppose. He blamed the lack of interest partly on Democrats for

> running up the spending under Blagojevich and Quinn since 2003, with

Republicans

> mostly on the sidelines during that time.

>

>

>

> " We've had eight years in the wilderness, " Beaubien said. " We did not create

the

> problem. If (Democrats) want to pass the income tax increase, they can do it. "

>

>

>

> Cullerton would not predict whether a tax increase would pass, but he tried to

> temper a potential backlash from a tax-weary public. A key decision will be

how

> the funds from a new tax hike would be distributed, whether some would go to

> education or all of it to help relieve the $8 billion backlog of overdue

bills.

>

>

>

> " I think it depends on how people look at it, " Cullerton said. " I think what

we

> have to do is pay off bills. That's a huge, important part of our national

image

> as well as importance to our economy. "

>

>

>

> Lyons conceded that taking a tax-hike vote now could have widespread

> repercussions. Lawmakers will be running in newly drawn districts following

the

> results of the new U.S. census. And few are itching to give any future

opponents

> some anti-tax fodder to use in the 2012 campaign.

>

>

>

> " It's political suicide for a lot of people, and we all know that, but the

right

> thing has to be done here, " Lyons said. " Being popular isn't always right.

Being

> right isn't always popular. The old cliche is so applicable toward this thing.

> It's sad. "

>

>

>

> Tribune reporter Rick Pearson contributed from Chicago.

>

>

>

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