Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

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Laurie, sadly the answer to that is............ no they don't have to, nor do

they have to prove they are unemployable...... although we do have to prove our

loved one is disabled, we do have to prove they are in many cases nonemployable

or minimally employable, and we have to be accountable for the dollars we

receive. Wonder if those who do (and everybody don't get all oh your

stereotyping......) decide to sell their food stamps for drugs etc (and when the

SW get involved cause the kids are hungry and dirty and unclothed properly

showing up at school, have to show receipts for the food they bought! Yea, it's

upsetting. But I ask myself, do I wanna be able to " get away with stuff like

that " ?? NO way.......

I wish us all strength to trudge ahead, and overcome this kinda stuff.

Kinda like what I am going through right now in family court. I am spending a

lot of time trying to educate my ex's attorney, and a little mine- although

she's pretty sharp for an " outsider " , and hopefully in the near future a judge

who will determine many financial and physical situations involving my 18 year

old son. I am praying that the judge " gives a crap " enough to become somewhat

familiar with the basics on what Autism even is and what the challenges and day

to day life of a young man and the family who cares for him is like.......

Why because my ex was ordered back when we divorced to pay child support

indefinately..... and now he can try NOT to pay, quite frankly he can try to

fight me as many times over the years as he wants while my son remains at home,

to have support stopped. 'Because don't you know, we families get all the money

we need for the sate and feds that it takes to care for our loved ones at home-

right??? " Yea I'm being sarcastic. Once again the ones who do all the work,

have to fight over and over to get the help we need, all while caring for our

loved ones, and often wotking full time. Then others tell us " it;s our choice " ,

" why not just make him a ward of the state " .... as if they know anything about

that and hey tomorrow I can get sick or tired and just drop my son off at the

firehouse right??? Ah, so many times I wanna scream or tear someones head off.

Then when your words get a little sharp, " your are not just tired- you are just

too emtional " .......

Ahhhhh, sorry for the rant all but o the injustices........ we are mistreated

over, and over, and over...... quite frankly no one cares but us.......

Diane S

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> Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones

shared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize,

with parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just

won't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a

scary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI

or SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy.

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> You're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on

regular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and

parents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get

their Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you

still OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'.

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> How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

I need to prove I've done as requested.

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> Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

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> Donna

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> We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

> ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

> er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

> hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

> onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

> orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

> uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

> on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

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[Guest guest]

Unfortunately a lot of what we do to do the right thing with SSA is a

challenge.

Transition teachers generally have very little education about it and we are

sent to multiple training and experts to learn how to build the most

comprehensive support for our people. When we first got into the disability

world, 23 years ago we were told immediately by groups like NADS to keep

Adam's finances, his bank account under $2000. A few years ago I heard

another attorney suggest keeping the account under $1500. I wasn't sure of

the discrepancy, only that it would give some cush for instances that have

been described.

[Guest guest]

Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just

dropped it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the

attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal

(the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea).

I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to

appeal. Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other?

I need some chocolate.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your very eye-opening experiences. As always, there are many

lessons to be learned from this group. I will be sure to keep very close tabs on

the balances in my sons accounts.

Managing his benefits has turned into a full-time job in and of itself!

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> > Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of

troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your

expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience.

> > Ellen

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> > Ellen Garber Bronfeld

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[Guest guest]

Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and

then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and if

you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is this

for the same overpayment? 

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From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM

Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

 

Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just dropped

it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the

attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal

(the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea).

I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to appeal.

Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other?

I need some chocolate.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Sherri, there were two different letters. The first one to say that SSI was

being terminated (Notice of Planned Action), the second one saying how much

money to pay back (Notice of Overpayment).

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> Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and

> then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and

if

> you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is

this

> for the same overpayment? 

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> From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

> IPADDUnite

> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM

> Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

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> Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just

dropped

> it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the

> attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal

> (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea).

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> I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to

appeal.

> Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other?

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> I need some chocolate.

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> Thanks

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[Guest guest]

The second letter is worser than the first letter.

 

Being ask to pay back isn't comforting, but I hope that you appeal with Social

Security with courage and patience.

 

 

From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

IPADDUnite

Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 10:13 AM

 

Sherri, there were two different letters. The first one to say that SSI was

being terminated (Notice of Planned Action), the second one saying how much

money to pay back (Notice of Overpayment).

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> Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and

> then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and

if

> you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is

this

> for the same overpayment? 

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> From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...>

> IPADDUnite

> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM

> Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

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> Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just

dropped

> it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the

> attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal

> (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea).

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> I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to

appeal.

> Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other?

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> I need some chocolate.

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> Thanks

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