Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Laurie, sadly the answer to that is............ no they don't have to, nor do they have to prove they are unemployable...... although we do have to prove our loved one is disabled, we do have to prove they are in many cases nonemployable or minimally employable, and we have to be accountable for the dollars we receive. Wonder if those who do (and everybody don't get all oh your stereotyping......) decide to sell their food stamps for drugs etc (and when the SW get involved cause the kids are hungry and dirty and unclothed properly showing up at school, have to show receipts for the food they bought! Yea, it's upsetting. But I ask myself, do I wanna be able to " get away with stuff like that " ?? NO way....... I wish us all strength to trudge ahead, and overcome this kinda stuff. Kinda like what I am going through right now in family court. I am spending a lot of time trying to educate my ex's attorney, and a little mine- although she's pretty sharp for an " outsider " , and hopefully in the near future a judge who will determine many financial and physical situations involving my 18 year old son. I am praying that the judge " gives a crap " enough to become somewhat familiar with the basics on what Autism even is and what the challenges and day to day life of a young man and the family who cares for him is like....... Why because my ex was ordered back when we divorced to pay child support indefinately..... and now he can try NOT to pay, quite frankly he can try to fight me as many times over the years as he wants while my son remains at home, to have support stopped. 'Because don't you know, we families get all the money we need for the sate and feds that it takes to care for our loved ones at home- right??? " Yea I'm being sarcastic. Once again the ones who do all the work, have to fight over and over to get the help we need, all while caring for our loved ones, and often wotking full time. Then others tell us " it;s our choice " , " why not just make him a ward of the state " .... as if they know anything about that and hey tomorrow I can get sick or tired and just drop my son off at the firehouse right??? Ah, so many times I wanna scream or tear someones head off. Then when your words get a little sharp, " your are not just tired- you are just too emtional " ....... Ahhhhh, sorry for the rant all but o the injustices........ we are mistreated over, and over, and over...... quite frankly no one cares but us....... Diane S > > Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones shared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize, with parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just won't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a scary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI or SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy. > > You're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on regular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and parents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get their Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you still OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'. > > L. > > > From: krazykato3@... > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:02 PM > IPADDUnite > Cc: IPADDUnite > Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice > > > > > > How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from us. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event I need to prove I've done as requested. > > Paperwork for our kids is like having another job > > Donna > > [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice > > We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our > ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting > er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated > hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per > onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not > orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I > uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you > on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Unfortunately a lot of what we do to do the right thing with SSA is a challenge. Transition teachers generally have very little education about it and we are sent to multiple training and experts to learn how to build the most comprehensive support for our people. When we first got into the disability world, 23 years ago we were told immediately by groups like NADS to keep Adam's finances, his bank account under $2000. A few years ago I heard another attorney suggest keeping the account under $1500. I wasn't sure of the discrepancy, only that it would give some cush for instances that have been described. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just dropped it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea). I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to appeal. Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other? I need some chocolate. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks for sharing your very eye-opening experiences. As always, there are many lessons to be learned from this group. I will be sure to keep very close tabs on the balances in my sons accounts. Managing his benefits has turned into a full-time job in and of itself! > > > > Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience. > > Ellen > > > > Ellen Garber Bronfeld > > egskb@ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and if you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is this for the same overpayment? ________________________________ From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice  Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just dropped it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea). I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to appeal. Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other? I need some chocolate. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Sherri, there were two different letters. The first one to say that SSI was being terminated (Notice of Planned Action), the second one saying how much money to pay back (Notice of Overpayment). > > Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and > then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and if > you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is this > for the same overpayment? > > > > ________________________________ > From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM > Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice > >  > Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just dropped > it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the > attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal > (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea). > > I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to appeal. > Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other? > > I need some chocolate. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The second letter is worser than the first letter.  Being ask to pay back isn't comforting, but I hope that you appeal with Social Security with courage and patience.   From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice IPADDUnite Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 10:13 AM  Sherri, there were two different letters. The first one to say that SSI was being terminated (Notice of Planned Action), the second one saying how much money to pay back (Notice of Overpayment). > > Usually, Social Security sends a letter to the person receiving benefits and > then the exact same letter to the payee. This may be the case. If it is, and if > you have a receipt for the appeal, you don't need to do another one. Or, is this > for the same overpayment? > > > > ________________________________ > From: cmfinato <cmfinato@...> > IPADDUnite > Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 4:23:08 PM > Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice > >  > Well, I finished the SSA-561 and included a detailed explanation. I just dropped > it off at the SSA office with a document that was a detail of all the > attachments, so they can sign it so I have a receipt that I filed the appeal > (the gentleman who helped me said the receipt was a good idea). > > I get home and now find the Notice of Overpayment. It's the same form to appeal. > Do I send in another appeal form or wait until I hear from the other? > > I need some chocolate. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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