Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

[Guest guest]

I don't have any advice since we just started receiving SSI but I'll

certainly keep this in mind and pay attention to what others have to say. I

keep getting letters asking me for pay stubs for which I've sent to them 2

or 3 times now.

I hope you get this resolved quickly!!

H.

SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

Thanks to checks written for my daughter's needs that took awhile to clear,

everal months of her combined accounts exceed $2000. Some by only a couple of

ollars.

I received a Notice of Planned Action that tells me that her SSI is being

topped as of March 2011.

I would appreciate any advice on how I can appeal this.

Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

First off, sorry to hear this has happened.

Secondly, get out the letter you received and study the appeals instructions.

This has happened to us twice as we were paying wages thru Helper Girl.

The first time I was able to call within 10 days of receiving the notice, just

talk with someone on the phone, send them proof of paystubs, and then they

corrected it. The second time it happened it took a phone call and a visit and

completing a form (which is available online or at your local office) describing

the reason you are requesting 're-evaluation of the decision'. But once they

get the supporting documentation showing her bank account is back down under

$2000, they should reinstate her no problems. Depending on the circumstances

surrounding the checks being written but not cashed/processed/cleared, they may

or may not penalize her payment amounts for that time period. Either way, you

should be able to get her SSI back to the normal rate.

At least this was our experience with the Aurora office. I've heard from other

people that Social Security can be a bear to work with, but we haven't found

that to be the case. Also, fyi, it's a really good idea to establish some kind

of relationship with one particular person in your local office, if you find

they are helpful...write them a thank you, write their supervisor a thank you,

anything to help them remember you...and then ask for them next time by name. I

have a 'friend', Mrs. ez, at the Aurora office who told me last time we

spoke that I should consider putting in an application to work there.

Hope this helps.

Laurie

From: cmfinato

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:13 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

Thanks to checks written for my daughter's needs that took awhile to clear,

several months of her combined accounts exceed $2000. Some by only a couple of

dollars.

I received a Notice of Planned Action that tells me that her SSI is being

stopped as of March 2011.

I would appreciate any advice on how I can appeal this.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thank you Laurie. This is what I've found out.

When I first opened Angel's savings account, a $300 minimum was required so I

transferred money from my savings into hers. I have her info on QuickBooks and

this is recorded as a 'loan' from me. I just repaid myself.

This takes care of many of the months where it's only a couple of bucks off.

The other months - every single one had two deposits from SSI, the first and the

last day of the month. These months, I did not pay rent the same days. Also,

each one if these months had outstanding, uncashed checks. Now, instead of

writing a check from her to me, I will use the online and transfer the money to

make sure her end of month/beginning of the month balances stay lower. I have

no control over the other uncleared checks. Many times, it's a large amount

written out to the SRA for a season worth of programs.

>

> Hi ,

>

> First off, sorry to hear this has happened.

>

> Secondly, get out the letter you received and study the appeals instructions.

This has happened to us twice as we were paying wages thru Helper Girl.

The first time I was able to call within 10 days of receiving the notice, just

talk with someone on the phone, send them proof of paystubs, and then they

corrected it. The second time it happened it took a phone call and a visit and

completing a form (which is available online or at your local office) describing

the reason you are requesting 're-evaluation of the decision'. But once they

get the supporting documentation showing her bank account is back down under

$2000, they should reinstate her no problems. Depending on the circumstances

surrounding the checks being written but not cashed/processed/cleared, they may

or may not penalize her payment amounts for that time period. Either way, you

should be able to get her SSI back to the normal rate.

>

> At least this was our experience with the Aurora office. I've heard from other

people that Social Security can be a bear to work with, but we haven't found

that to be the case. Also, fyi, it's a really good idea to establish some kind

of relationship with one particular person in your local office, if you find

they are helpful...write them a thank you, write their supervisor a thank you,

anything to help them remember you...and then ask for them next time by name. I

have a 'friend', Mrs. ez, at the Aurora office who told me last time we

spoke that I should consider putting in an application to work there.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Laurie

>

>

> From: cmfinato

> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:13 PM

> IPADDUnite

> Subject: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

>

>

>

> Thanks to checks written for my daughter's needs that took awhile to clear,

several months of her combined accounts exceed $2000. Some by only a couple of

dollars.

>

> I received a Notice of Planned Action that tells me that her SSI is being

stopped as of March 2011.

>

> I would appreciate any advice on how I can appeal this.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Once it goes a few cents over $2000, the computer indicates a problem. I suggest

getting an appointment at the local office. Also put in writing a request for an

appeal. The first time they will usually work with you. Be kind. Be patient but

be quick and persistant. You do not want to lose SSI. I am sure you will be okay

if you contact them soon. Ficker Terrill

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:13 AM, " cmfinato " <cmfinato@...> wrote:

Thanks to checks written for my daughter's needs that took awhile to clear,

several months of her combined accounts exceed $2000. Some by only a couple of

dollars.

I received a Notice of Planned Action that tells me that her SSI is being

stopped as of March 2011.

I would appreciate any advice on how I can appeal this.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thanks . Some of the months, it was only over less than $5. You would

think that the SSA would be in some sort of tolerance for small amounts because

I would imagine the appeals process requires a lot of their resources.

>

> Thanks to checks written for my daughter's needs that took awhile to clear,

several months of her combined accounts exceed $2000. Some by only a couple of

dollars.

>

> I received a Notice of Planned Action that tells me that her SSI is being

stopped as of March 2011.

>

> I would appreciate any advice on how I can appeal this.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

I agree, Laurie, you should be working for SSA!

Both Laurie and Ficker-Terrill have provided some extremely helpful tips,

particularly the advice to build a relationship with your local SSA office!

, responding quickly to letters from SSA is very sound advice. In the

meantime, the document that Laurie referred to about your right to appeal

(Request for Reconsideration) can be found on the SSA website at:

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-561.pdf By checking 'Informal

Conference' you will be called for a meeting where you can show the bank

statements and receipts.

Please know that if you receive a Letter of Overpayment and the overpayment

amount is less than $1,000, you have the right to request that the overpayment

amount be " administratively waived " . You can make this request at the local

office. There are options for handling overpayments: Reconsideration; Request

for Waiver; and lastly negotiate a repayment plan!

Good Luck, .

Marsie

Marsie L. Frawley

Health & Disability Advocates

205 W. Monroe Street, Suite 300

Chicago, Illinois 60606

Intake and Attorney Line: 312 223-9600

Direct: 312 265-9069

TTY: 866 584 8750

Fax: 312 223-9518

mfrawley@...<mailto:mfrawley@...>

[Guest guest]

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

office. They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

her back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

phone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

month on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

worked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

suggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

don't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

[Guest guest]

THanks Gloria, I will look into that since constantly mailing the same things

back and forth is kind of crazy.

H

Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

ffice. They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

-----------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Marsie, thanks for the info. I've already filled out the Request for

Reconsideration form (except I didn't select what type of meeting). Since you

recommend the Informal Conference, I will pick that one.

I am going to prepare a more detailed document to address each one of their

Ineligibiilty issues.

>

> Hello All,

> I agree, Laurie, you should be working for SSA!

> Both Laurie and Ficker-Terrill have provided some extremely helpful

tips, particularly the advice to build a relationship with your local SSA

office!

> , responding quickly to letters from SSA is very sound advice. In the

meantime, the document that Laurie referred to about your right to appeal

(Request for Reconsideration) can be found on the SSA website at:

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-561.pdf By checking 'Informal

Conference' you will be called for a meeting where you can show the bank

statements and receipts.

> Please know that if you receive a Letter of Overpayment and the overpayment

amount is less than $1,000, you have the right to request that the overpayment

amount be " administratively waived " . You can make this request at the local

office. There are options for handling overpayments: Reconsideration; Request

for Waiver; and lastly negotiate a repayment plan!

> Good Luck, .

>

> Marsie

> Marsie L. Frawley

> Health & Disability Advocates

> 205 W. Monroe Street, Suite 300

> Chicago, Illinois 60606

> Intake and Attorney Line: 312 223-9600

> Direct: 312 265-9069

> TTY: 866 584 8750

> Fax: 312 223-9518

> mfrawley@...<mailto:mfrawley@...>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have gotten my daughters overpayment waived by just sending back the form.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Marsie Frawley <mfrawley@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I agree, Laurie, you should be working for SSA!

Both Laurie and Ficker-Terrill have provided some extremely helpful tips,

particularly the advice to build a relationship with your local SSA office!

, responding quickly to letters from SSA is very sound advice. In the

meantime, the document that Laurie referred to about your right to appeal

(Request for Reconsideration) can be found on the SSA website at:

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-561.pdf By checking 'Informal

Conference' you will be called for a meeting where you can show the bank

statements and receipts.

Please know that if you receive a Letter of Overpayment and the overpayment

amount is less than $1,000, you have the right to request that the overpayment

amount be " administratively waived " . You can make this request at the local

office. There are options for handling overpayments: Reconsideration; Request

for Waiver; and lastly negotiate a repayment plan!

Good Luck, .

Marsie

Marsie L. Frawley

Health & Disability Advocates

205 W. Monroe Street, Suite 300

Chicago, Illinois 60606

Intake and Attorney Line: 312 223-9600

Direct: 312 265-9069

TTY: 866 584 8750

Fax: 312 223-9518

mfrawley@...<mailto:mfrawley@...>

[Guest guest]

How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not?   I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us.   So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them.  I am hopeful

that no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the

event I need to prove I've done as requested.   

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

[ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

-----------------------------------

[Guest guest]

We have used certified mail, we get a receipt back. This in no way affirms

what was in the mail, only that something was sent and recieved. Every few

months someone from SSA calls and says we have not sent in our papers, we

ask them to keep looking because we know they are somewhere in the Aurora

office. Adam's is apparently complicated because he has three very part

time jobs. We have been told we can fax the receipts, however other SSA

types have said if there is more than one employer we cannot fax or call in.

We think we are pretty organized. Each month has its own plastic page in a

thre ring binder with work receits and Income Related Work Expense Each

binder is a year's worth of paper work. When SSA calls to question we go

to the right year, he has been working 5 years, the right month and we can

go receipt by receipt. One of his employers is a college, which took several

weeks off in December. No receipts for that period of time. SSA called us

on that claiming we did not send in all the necessary receipts. I explained

we were not holding out, he just does not work when the college is closed.

SSA told us next time write a note explaining the missing receipts. I will

never be able to second guess what unique questions or misunderstandings

they may have. . .

[Guest guest]

I send in a sheet of paper with my son's name and the month and ask that they

sign and return the stubs each month.  My SS person told me they are so busy

and backed up and asked that I send them in every 3 months instead of every

month.  We will see how that works as they did not return the last two months I

sent.

Shirley

From: krazykato3@... <krazykato3@...>

Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

IPADDUnite

Cc: IPADDUnite

Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 2:02 AM

 

How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not?   I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us.   So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them.  I am hopeful

that no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the

event I need to prove I've done as requested.   

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

[ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

-----------------------------------

[Guest guest]

There are two different methods for overpayments:

1) Reconsideration - fancy name for appeal.

    You do this when you think Social Security is wrong

2) Waiver

    You do this when something is not your fault and it is a hardship to pay

it

back

If you lose, ask that they take 10% from future checks. They will do this.

FYI - if you are using Employment Related Work Expenses to help reduce your

earnings, you cannot use the telephone reporting. 

________________________________

From: " cathyfickerterrill@... " <fickerterrill@...>

" IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Cc: " IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite >

Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:38:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

 

I have gotten my daughters overpayment waived by just sending back the form.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Marsie Frawley <mfrawley@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I agree, Laurie, you should be working for SSA!

Both Laurie and Ficker-Terrill have provided some extremely helpful tips,

particularly the advice to build a relationship with your local SSA office!

, responding quickly to letters from SSA is very sound advice. In the

meantime, the document that Laurie referred to about your right to appeal

(Request for Reconsideration) can be found on the SSA website at:

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-561.pdf By checking 'Informal

Conference' you will be called for a meeting where you can show the bank

statements and receipts.

Please know that if you receive a Letter of Overpayment and the overpayment

amount is less than $1,000, you have the right to request that the overpayment

amount be " administratively waived " . You can make this request at the local

office. There are options for handling overpayments: Reconsideration; Request

for Waiver; and lastly negotiate a repayment plan!

Good Luck, .

Marsie

Marsie L. Frawley

Health & Disability Advocates

205 W. Monroe Street, Suite 300

Chicago, Illinois 60606

Intake and Attorney Line: 312 223-9600

Direct: 312 265-9069

TTY: 866 584 8750

Fax: 312 223-9518

mfrawley@...<mailto:mfrawley@...>

[Guest guest]

I use certified mail with the green signature receipt. This way, I have proof

that someone in the Social Security office has signed for them. I keep a copy of

everything. That way, I have a copy of what was sent and who signed for them.

Usually, after the claims representative enters the earnings in their system, a

letter is sent out to the recipient and to the payee stating the income has been

received and if/how it affects benefits going forward.

________________________________

From: " krazykato3@... " <krazykato3@...>

IPADDUnite

Cc: IPADDUnite

Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 8:02:40 PM

Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

 

How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not?   I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us.   So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them.  I am hopeful

that

no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

I need to prove I've done as requested.   

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

[ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

-----------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones

shared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize,

with parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just

won't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a

scary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI

or SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy.

You're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on

regular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and

parents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get

their Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you

still OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'.

L.

From: krazykato3@...

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:02 PM

IPADDUnite

Cc: IPADDUnite

Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

I need to prove I've done as requested.

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

[ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

-----------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Donna, each month, I receive a letter from SSA with a postage paid return

envelope that tells me they've received the money and to send the response

letter with the next month's checks in the enclosed envelope.

>

>

>

> How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not?   I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us.   So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them.  I am hopeful

that no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the

event I need to prove I've done as requested.   

>

>

>

> Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

>

>

>

> Donna

>

>

>

>

> [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

>

> We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

> ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

> er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

> hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

> onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

> orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

> uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

> on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

>

> -----------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

People on welfare can do whatever they want with the checks and they don't have

to file the annual reports that we do.

What aggravates me is that the $2000 asset check is applied monthly. In our

case, uncleared checks and two SSI deposits (first and last of the month) have

caused our overage. My checkbook balance is always below. I also believe they

should use some sort of tolerance, like maybe within $15-25 dollars. I have one

month that is $3 over. What a waste of SSI resources to make a recipient not

eligible and then go through the expensive appeal process! Obviously, they

expect us all to use online banking and on the last day of the month, to check

the balance and use online pay to keep it under. If I had taken out two room

and board payments with I received the two SSI deposits, I wouldn't have gone

over. The R & B payments are automatic online for the first of the month and if

it falls on Saturday, Sunday, or a holiday, it still comes out on the first.

SSI will be deposited the day before Saturday, Sunday, or a holiday, thus giving

the recipient two deposits in one month.

>

> Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones

shared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize,

with parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just

won't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a

scary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI

or SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy.

>

> You're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on

regular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and

parents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get

their Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you

still OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'.

>

> L.

>

>

> From: krazykato3@...

> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:02 PM

> IPADDUnite

> Cc: IPADDUnite

> Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

>

>

>

>

>

> How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

I need to prove I've done as requested.

>

> Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

>

> Donna

>

> [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

>

> We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

> ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

> er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

> hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

> onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

> orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

> uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

> on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

>

> -----------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I sent a batch in December since I hadn't been doing it monthly. They mailed

them all back to me with a postage paid envelope asking that I mail the next

months in that and they returned them within a week or so. I think they were

just trying to determine if had worked last summer, which he had not. I'm

using the Woodridge office as my contact.

H.

Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

I send in a sheet of paper with my son's name and the month and ask that they

ign and return the stubs each month. My SS person told me they are so busy and

acked up and asked that I send them in every 3 months instead of every month.

e will see how that works as they did not return the last two months I sent.

hirley

rom: krazykato3@... <krazykato3@...>

ubject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

o: IPADDUnite

c: IPADDUnite

ate: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 2:02 AM

How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

egan sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

s. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

o news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

need to prove I've done as requested.

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

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ent: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:36:15 AM

ubject: Re: [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

THanks Gloria, I will look into that since constantly mailing the same things

ack and forth is kind of crazy.

ary H

-----Original Message-----

rom: G Kern < prentice75@... >

o: IPADDUnite < IPADDUnite @ groups .com >

ent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 11:18 am

ubject: [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

fice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

r back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

one system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

nth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

rked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

ggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

n't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

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they make everything hard for us and thank God there is an " us " to help our

kids!

H.

Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones

hared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize,

ith parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just

on't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a

cary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI

r SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy.

ou're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on

egular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and

arents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get

heir Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you

till OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'.

L.

rom: krazykato3@...

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ubject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

ow do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

egan sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

s. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

o news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

need to prove I've done as requested.

Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

Donna

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THanks Gloria, I will look into that since constantly mailing the same things

ack and forth is kind of crazy.

ary H

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ent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 11:18 am

ubject: [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

fice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

r back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

one system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

nth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

rked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

ggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

n't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

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Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of

troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your

expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience.

Ellen

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Folks,

Can I ask how the SSA has such current info on the balance's in one's bank

accounts that they could detect an overrage that existed for only a day or two??

I could see them having info on the account that the SSI is deposited in, but if

a recipient has more than one bank account, say for example, to deposit earnings

from a job, does SSA have this info as well? They would have to add the balnces

from both accounts to do the asset test. How can they possibly have the

resources to monitor this?

>

> Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of

troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your

expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience.

> Ellen

>

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> egskb@...

>

>

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Lenore, they have everything. When you receive a 1099-INT, the bank also sends

the Department of the Treasury a copy of it. A copy of your W-2 gets sent to

SSA. When you apply for SSI, you are supposed to list your assets, so they know

if you have a savings account and checking account and thru the wonderful world

of computers, obtain that information.

In my letter, SSA listed the end of month bank balances (IOW, the uncleared

balance) of both the savings and checking account. What they did not do is take

into account when they direct deposit the SSI the last day of the month instead

of the first day. This could easily be done by computer and eliminate a lot of

unnecessary appeals.

> >

> > Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of

troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your

expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience.

> > Ellen

> >

> > Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> > egskb@

> >

> >

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Yes. They really do check that every month using a computer automated system but

don't check it regurally if it involved with a live person.

Social Security needs to be automated in a electonic form fashion like e-File

for annual tax return.

I told my friend who a mother of a daughter who collect SSI for CP and Asperger

Syndrome about the termination of SSI. She ask, " didn't she put the money in the

mattress? " . I would have done the samething.

Bank account has to be clean oncewhile each month.

> >

> > Marsie and others won't like this statement, but it's stories like the ones

shared here on IPADD this week that make me understand, or at least empathize,

with parents who throw up their hands and say 'enough!' and 'ok, my kid just

won't work'. When you're dependent on Medicaid for so many things, it can be a

scary thought to be on the brink of losing that benefit. Not to mention the SSI

or SSDI if you are financially dependent on it and your work history is patchy.

> >

> > You're right, Donna, the paperwork IS like having another job. Do people on

regular welfare have to jump thru similar hoops, I wonder? I know my inlaws and

parents, at least two of whom never worked for pay a day in their lives, get

their Social Security checks like clockwork, and no one questions them 'Are you

still OLD?' and 'Send us proof every month'.

> >

> > L.

> >

> >

> > From: krazykato3@

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:02 PM

> > IPADDUnite

> > Cc: IPADDUnite

> > Subject: Re: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > How do you know if SSA is getting the copies of the checks or not? I just

began sending copies in 2 months ago, as soon as they first requested them from

us. So far I haven't heard that they haven't received them. I am hopeful that

no news is good news. I am keeping copies of everything I do send, in the event

I need to prove I've done as requested.

> >

> > Paperwork for our kids is like having another job

> >

> > Donna

> >

> > [ IPADDUnite ] Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

> >

> > We were having terrible problems with mailing in the check stubs to our

> > ffice . They were constantly taking too much from her, then crediting

> > er back. It was a mess. I was finally able to get to an automated

> > hone system that I called in the amount of all her checks once per

> > onth on a touchtone phone. Life was simple after that. She has not

> > orked for the last year so I don't know if it is still available but I

> > uggest you ask. You don't have to wait to talk to a person and you

> > on't have to mail in the checks,. Gloria

> >

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> >

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Well that's the scary question, isn't it? Our experience was once having

receive a paycheck in the same week she received her SSI benefits, thus

putting her at about $2100 in her bank account. And yes, we have two separate

accounts, one rep payee that gets the SSI direct deposited, the other a separate

account. I got a call from my 'friend' at our local Social Security

office, about a week later, saying that 's name had showed up on her

'watch' list (that's what she called it) and that anytime a person's assets go

over $1600 her office or SSA issues a watch list for fraud purposes. I don't

know if any of this is true (maybe someone else here does) but the fact remains

that she KNEW within a week.

Computers apparently talk with one another. Maybe we sign away our privacy

rights when we apply for SSI, there's a lot of fine print.

Maybe someone else on list knows the real story. I'm just guessing!

L.

From: lenore_varey

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:11 AM

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Subject: Re: SSI Being Terminated, Need Advice

Folks,

Can I ask how the SSA has such current info on the balance's in one's bank

accounts that they could detect an overrage that existed for only a day or two??

I could see them having info on the account that the SSI is deposited in, but if

a recipient has more than one bank account, say for example, to deposit earnings

from a job, does SSA have this info as well? They would have to add the balnces

from both accounts to do the asset test. How can they possibly have the

resources to monitor this?

>

> Thanks to all who have contributed to a substantive discussion of

troubleshooting SSI problems. Marsie and Sherri, thanks for sharing your

expertise. , Cindi and Laurie, thanks too for sharing your experience.

> Ellen

>

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> egskb@...

>

>