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hi all,

suzy and i attended tim o'shea's seminar today, titled

'the sanctity of human blood: vaccination i$ not

immunization'.

the seminar is great for anyone who has some doubts

about vaccinations, but isn't entirely sure about the

whole thing. his entire talk revolves around his book

with the same title, the 5th edition was published

about 2 months ago (ISBN: 1-929487-03-7), he gave a

few websites (whale.to, vaccinationnews) and a couple

of emails (sandy, raymond gallup).

what didn't impress me was that whenever i wanted to

ask a question, he told me 'not now' (while he let

other's ask as soon as they raised their hands)

*growl*. although he dedicated quite a bit of time on

the issue of mercury, he didn't even mention 2-PE as a

replacement for mercury at all. then he mentioned

chelation, but didn't go into any detail and simply

concluded it doesn't work and autism can't be

reversed. i found that somewhat disappointing, too, to

say the least.

if you know anyone who's only just starting getting

into the vaccination debate, it's definitely worth

recommending. but if you've spent the past few months

or even years reading medical studies, don't waste

your time or money. what was great, though, was the

fact that there were some 15 or so people in one room,

and every single one of them opposed to vaccines,

after 7 hours i almost felt like being part of a big

family! lol.

claudia

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Awe shucks , I thought we would get something on 2-PE. It

sounds like you could have added some of your knowledge.

> hi all,

> suzy and i attended tim o'shea's seminar today, titled

> 'the sanctity of human blood: vaccination i$ not

> immunization'.

> the seminar is great for anyone who has some doubts

> about vaccinations, but isn't entirely sure about the

> whole thing. his entire talk revolves around his book

> with the same title, the 5th edition was published

> about 2 months ago (ISBN: 1-929487-03-7), he gave a

> few websites (whale.to, vaccinationnews) and a couple

> of emails (sandy, raymond gallup).

> what didn't impress me was that whenever i wanted to

> ask a question, he told me 'not now' (while he let

> other's ask as soon as they raised their hands)

> *growl*. although he dedicated quite a bit of time on

> the issue of mercury, he didn't even mention 2-PE as a

> replacement for mercury at all. then he mentioned

> chelation, but didn't go into any detail and simply

> concluded it doesn't work and autism can't be

> reversed. i found that somewhat disappointing, too, to

> say the least.

> if you know anyone who's only just starting getting

> into the vaccination debate, it's definitely worth

> recommending. but if you've spent the past few months

> or even years reading medical studies, don't waste

> your time or money. what was great, though, was the

> fact that there were some 15 or so people in one room,

> and every single one of them opposed to vaccines,

> after 7 hours i almost felt like being part of a big

> family! lol.

> claudia

>

>

>

>

>

> =====

> http://www.iven.org.uk

> deutschsprachige impfkritikliste:

impfkritik_deutsch/

>

> One-quarter of what you eat keeps you alive.

> The other three-quarters keeps your doctor alive.

> (Hieroglyph found in an ancient Egyptian tomb.)

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: suzanneazar@... [mailto:suzanneazar@...]

> The best part of the seminar for me was in the beginning

> where Dr O'Shea

> explained the history of spin and propaganda, its roots in

> psychology and its

> use in Nazi Germany.

Does Tim cover this in his book?

Can someone tell me, is his book generally worth getting?

What is everyone's most favorite book/work on the subject (of

vaccinations)? (If you have more than one favorite, can you rank them

for me?)

Thanks,

Bob

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> Does Tim cover this in his book?

he does, to an extent. not as detailed as in the

seminar, but he does.

> Can someone tell me, is his book generally worth

> getting?

it really depends where you are, in terms of your

research! he didn't tell me anything new and avoided

my questions, but then i've been researching vaccines

for nearly 5 years. so, if you're at the beginning of

researching, definitely get his book! it's worth it,

because his references are 'good' (ie who, cdc etc).

> What is everyone's most favorite book/work on the

> subject (of

> vaccinations)? (If you have more than one favorite,

> can you rank them

> for me?)

must be 'fatal' by michael palmer, lol. everything in

that book that's written about vaccines is the truth.

apart from that i'd recommend to anyone to go thru

their charity shops and buy any pre 1950's book on

family medicine, that'll give you a very good idea

about the diseases. and then, viera scheibner's book

'100 years of vaccination.......' is an absolute must.

but you have to be scientifically minded for that

one...

hth

claudia

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I haven't read it, so I can't be sure, but my guess is that this piece

by Tim covers his perspective on the propaganda issue:

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/august2001/doorsofperception.ht

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DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE

AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

Re: RE: Tim O'shea seminar

> Does Tim cover this in his book?

he does, to an extent. not as detailed as in the

seminar, but he does.

> Can someone tell me, is his book generally worth

> getting?

it really depends where you are, in terms of your

research! he didn't tell me anything new and avoided

my questions, but then i've been researching vaccines

for nearly 5 years. so, if you're at the beginning of

researching, definitely get his book! it's worth it,

because his references are 'good' (ie who, cdc etc).

> What is everyone's most favorite book/work on the

> subject (of

> vaccinations)? (If you have more than one favorite,

> can you rank them

> for me?)

must be 'fatal' by michael palmer, lol. everything in

that book that's written about vaccines is the truth.

apart from that i'd recommend to anyone to go thru

their charity shops and buy any pre 1950's book on

family medicine, that'll give you a very good idea

about the diseases. and then, viera scheibner's book

'100 years of vaccination.......' is an absolute must.

but you have to be scientifically minded for that

one...

hth

claudia

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> Re: RE: Tim O'shea seminar

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> must be 'fatal' by michael palmer, lol. everything in

> that book that's written about vaccines is the truth.

I've seen that book mentioned here. Isn't that a fiction work?

> apart from that i'd recommend to anyone to go thru

> their charity shops and buy any pre 1950's book on

> family medicine, that'll give you a very good idea

> about the diseases. and then, viera scheibner's book

> '100 years of vaccination.......' is an absolute must.

> but you have to be scientifically minded for that

> one...

> hth

> claudia

Thanks for your input!

Bob

P.S. Thanks for your response too, Sandy.

P.P.S. Have either of you read " The Poisoned Needle " ?

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> > must be 'fatal' by michael palmer, lol. everything in

> > that book that's written about vaccines is the truth.

>

> I've seen that book mentioned here. Isn't that a fiction work?

yes it falls under that category. but what he writes about

vaccinations (or chemicals) is true. that's why this book has caused

such an uproar amongst vaccination opponents. it's fiction and yet

what's written in it about vaccines is sooooooooo true, including the

way vaccines are 'sanctioned'...

claudia

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> > > must be 'fatal' by michael palmer, lol. everything in

> > > that book that's written about vaccines is the truth.

> >

> > I've seen that book mentioned here. Isn't that a fiction work?

replied:

>

> yes it falls under that category. but what he writes about

> vaccinations (or chemicals) is true. that's why this book has caused

> such an uproar amongst vaccination opponents. it's fiction and yet

> what's written in it about vaccines is sooooooooo true, including the

> way vaccines are 'sanctioned'...

And Palmer is a doctor, despite also being a thriller writer. But I

have to say that I was disappointed in Fatal. The vaccine information

seemed generally accurate to my limited knowledge, but the plot seemed to

fade in the last couple of chapters. Not my favourite of his by a long

stretch.

Sue

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has scanned the whole book onto his website

http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html

>Bob

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>P.P.S. Have either of you read " The Poisoned Needle " ?

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Upcoming Lecture

One day seminar : The Sanctity of Human Blood

Dr Tim O'Shea, Author of The Sanctity of Human Blood

San , CA 27 Jul 2002

8 a.m. Saturday Airport Inn International 1344 N 4th St. 408 453 5340

directions: From 880/101 intersection, go south on 88O. First exit is

First St. Get off. Turn right at light. Turn right again at first light

and go to 4th St. Turn left. You're there.

This multimedia presentation will focus on: - history of vaccines -

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- role of the FDA - natural vs. artificial immunity - scientific proof

of efficacy - hematology review - blood detox - Gulf War Syndrome - the

chiropractic position on vaccines - exemption forms / exemption laws -

the real causes of disease - comparison with Europe's required list -

bioterrorism and vaccine sales - difference between vaccination and

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This will be a rare opportunity to see the most current research

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