Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 MMr is a live vaccine this is the one that scares me. DTaP isnt i believe but i think that is how my DD got whooping cough. Most people say not to worry about it but i always do but I tend to be paranoid about it especially MMR. I am sure some one more informed than i will answer you more in depth. MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES Chelsea 9 Carrigian 5 4 Chaela Noelle 15 mo from the mouth of a 4 yr old " your not fat mommy just squishy! " !!!! ) <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett bunch</A> <A HREF= " http://babiesonline.com/babies/c/chaela/ " >Chaela, born 12/22/2000</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Hi Cyndy, I researched this when my now three year old was around one. My stepson had to receive his second MMR to get back into school (so I thought). I can't find the reference now, but what I read was, the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three months. I also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 years old at the time. Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being protected. > I know we've discussed this before, but I need help again! I took my kids > (6yo, 3yo, and 3 1/2 months old) to my SIL's house today. She informed me > that my niece just had her kindergarten checkup with 3 shots yesterday. I'm > scared for my 2 unvaxed kids (the youngest just 3 1/2 months old). From the > schedule, it looks like the vaxs were DTaP, IPV, and MMR. Are any of these > live? Would they shed by just casual contact?? > > Cyndy > NC > Eternity's a long time to be wrong.... > www.raptureready.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Cyndy, I wouldn't be too worried at this point. As long as hygeine is used. I really think the studies saying that nursing will only protect against the Measles until the baby is 15 months are wrong. I think as long as you are nursing the benefits continue. It's my opinion that children who have been nursed and receive the MMR, are the ones with very high titers. > I am nursing my son, but my 2yo daughter used her cousins bathroom when we > were there yesterday. Other than that, they played in her room for a few > minutes. > > Cyndy > NC > > > the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three months. I > > also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand > > washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 > > years old at the time. > > > > Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being > > protected. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2002 Report Share Posted June 26, 2002 Here is my thought on the matter. There is no way that you can protect your children from contact with other children who may or may not have received any vaccine for their whole lives - first of all, there is no way to know if the child sitting next to yours at the library has had a recent vaccine - or even if they actually have an illness. When you make the decision to not vaccinate you have to be prepared to deal with THE ILLNESS if and when it strikes. Worrying about every child they come in contact with will make YOU ill. My parents had all the 'diseases' that we are now vaxing against, and with no permanent problem. Infact nearly all of the adults over the age of 50 had all the 'childhood illnesses' that we now worry our selves over -- and they are fine! My suggestion? Feed your children well, take care to keep them healthy in the best way you know how - and don't worry yourself sick regarding what they 'might catch' -- And, if they happen to get something that the establishment would like to have you think could be prevented. Seek appropriate care for your child and know that NOW they have life long immunity that means something... instead of jab that could cause more harm than good. Not to say I don't on occasion worry about my son -- but the reality is that I would worry about him getting ill no matter what path we'd chosen. No one likes to have a sick child... ((Hugs)) to you ! Your kidos are going to be GREAT! The have a wonderful, caring Mommy! Stacey > I know we've discussed this before, but I need help again! I took my kids > (6yo, 3yo, and 3 1/2 months old) to my SIL's house today. She informed me > that my niece just had her kindergarten checkup with 3 shots yesterday. I'm > scared for my 2 unvaxed kids (the youngest just 3 1/2 months old). From the > schedule, it looks like the vaxs were DTaP, IPV, and MMR. Are any of these > live? Would they shed by just casual contact?? > > Cyndy > NC > Eternity's a long time to be wrong.... > www.raptureready.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Tonya, I had the natural measles. I still believe that nursing is building the immune system, so that if a baby is exposed to the Measles, they have a better chance of fighting the virus. Did you have the MMR vaccine as a child? > , > > Is that true? I thought you could only pass along immunity for diseases for > which you had acquired natural immunity in breast milk? I thought that > since I had never naturally acquired Measles, Mumps or Rubella (to my > knowledge) that my son is vulnerable to these even though I am still nursing > him. > > Tonya > > > > >From: " hjfasufi " <Hjfasufi@a...> > >Reply-Vaccinations@y... > >Vaccinations@y... > >Subject: Re: Vaccine exposure > >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:30:30 -0000 > > > >Hi Cyndy, I researched this when my now three year old was around > >one. My stepson had to receive his second MMR to get back into school > >(so I thought). I can't find the reference now, but what I read was, > >the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three months. I > >also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand > >washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 > >years old at the time. > > > >Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being > >protected. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Tonya, preach all you want to this choir, it helps to get it out! There is a lot of information about this, how accurate it is I don't know. Here is something I have on it. If a mother has had the disease or has been immunised against it, her baby will usually be protected from measles, and possibly mumps and rubella. This protection lasts for many months. (Although it offers good protection against many forms of gastroenteritis and respiratory illnesses, breastfeeding offers little, if any, protection against measles, mumps and rubella.) If the vaccine is given while this protection is present, it will do no harm, but it will not work. Once this protection wears off the baby will be at risk of developing the diseases. NOTE: IT WILL DO NO HARM! Where are the studies?? > , > > Unfortunately... yes, I'm vaxxed to the hilt. Even got the DPT booster > during early adulthood. I did however, have chicken pox as a child. It > really saddens me that most of the 'experts' don't understand that a mother > who develops natural immunity to these diseases and breastfeeds, gives her > child a powerful advantage. Over generations these diseases will become > less and less of a nuisance as our bodies pass along defenses with each > nursing babe. No, instead we get vaccinated - making my milk less effective > for my child - and are told that formula is on par with human milk. Why > don't they realize they are messing with processes they can't even begin to > understand? > > Ooops! Sorry ... I'm preaching to the choir aren't I? Anyway, to > answer your question, yes I received the MMR. Is it possible for me to pass > along antibodies to my son for measles, mumps and rubella? > > Tonya > > >From: " hjfasufi " <Hjfasufi@a...> > >Reply-Vaccinations@y... > >Vaccinations@y... > >Subject: Re: Vaccine exposure > >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:10:46 -0000 > > > >Tonya, I had the natural measles. I still believe that nursing is > >building the immune system, so that if a baby is exposed to the > >Measles, they have a better chance of fighting the virus. > > > >Did you have the MMR vaccine as a child? > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 Sandy, yes that's what I'm referring to. Also, where is the studies that say after 15 months the infant is vulnerable to the measles while still breastfeeding? I've never seen them. > I missed the first part of this discussion, and am too tired to try and > find it, but years ago I remember reading that if your nursling is > exposed to something, antibodies to that disease are formed in the milk > and passed back to the infant. > > Is that what you were referring to, ? > > Sandy from Alaska > http://www.vaccinationnews.com > > http://www.whale.to > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > http://www.909shot.com > http://www.redflagsweekly.com > http://www.thinktwice.com > http://home.san.rr.com/via/ > http://www.mercola.com > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED > HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED > AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO > BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE > AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR > HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. > > > > Re: Vaccine exposure > >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:30:30 -0000 > > > >Hi Cyndy, I researched this when my now three year old was around > >one. My stepson had to receive his second MMR to get back into school > >(so I thought). I can't find the reference now, but what I read was, > >the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three months. I > >also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand > >washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 > >years old at the time. > > > >Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being > >protected. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2002 Report Share Posted July 1, 2002 Sandy, I was going through my bookmarks, and found one to your site. I know I looked into this a few months back. http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/Feb_1_02/MaternalAntibodiesPro tectMeasles.htm > > I missed the first part of this discussion, and am too tired to try > and > > find it, but years ago I remember reading that if your nursling is > > exposed to something, antibodies to that disease are formed in the > milk > > and passed back to the infant. > > > > Is that what you were referring to, ? > > > > Sandy from Alaska > > http://www.vaccinationnews.com > > > > http://www.whale.to > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > http://www.909shot.com > > http://www.redflagsweekly.com > > http://www.thinktwice.com > > http://home.san.rr.com/via/ > > http://www.mercola.com > > > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR > PROVIDED > > HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE > CONSTRUED > > AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS > NOT TO > > BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE > > DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX > ISSUE > > AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR > > HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. > > > > > > > > Re: Vaccine exposure > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:30:30 -0000 > > > > > >Hi Cyndy, I researched this when my now three year old was around > > >one. My stepson had to receive his second MMR to get back into > school > > >(so I thought). I can't find the reference now, but what I read > was, > > >the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three > months. I > > >also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand > > >washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 > > >years old at the time. > > > > > >Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being > > >protected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Sandy, I know your a busy lady, so I took it upon myself to find this on your site. Didn't get through all of the messages, huh! (lol) > > > I missed the first part of this discussion, and am too tired to > try > > and > > > find it, but years ago I remember reading that if your nursling is > > > exposed to something, antibodies to that disease are formed in > the > > milk > > > and passed back to the infant. > > > > > > Is that what you were referring to, ? > > > > > > Sandy from Alaska > > > http://www.vaccinationnews.com > > > > > > http://www.whale.to > > > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > > > http://www.909shot.com > > > http://www.redflagsweekly.com > > > http://www.thinktwice.com > > > http://home.san.rr.com/via/ > > > http://www.mercola.com > > > > > > ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR > > PROVIDED > > > HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE > > CONSTRUED > > > AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS > > NOT TO > > > BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. > THE > > > DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX > > ISSUE > > > AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH > YOUR > > > HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Vaccine exposure > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:30:30 -0000 > > > > > > > >Hi Cyndy, I researched this when my now three year old was around > > > >one. My stepson had to receive his second MMR to get back into > > school > > > >(so I thought). I can't find the reference now, but what I read > > was, > > > >the measles virus can live in the intestine for up to three > > months. I > > > >also believe in any body fluids. It recommended thorough hand > > > >washing. It wasn't that hard to follow, because my stepson was 16 > > > >years old at the time. > > > > > > > >Are you nursing your son? If you are his immune system is being > > > >protected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > > http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 Sandy, if these studies are referring to placental antibodies, and the infant is protected from 12-15 months...then could there be a possibility they are protected longer through extended breastfeeding? > , This article is discussing transplacental measles antibodies, not > those which are delivered via breastmilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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