Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 > > > interesting what you write about whey.- > > I have two questions. > > Is there a way of knowing whether a whey product is cold- > extracted or not? Yes, you can be fairly sure that if the whey product is not labeled with words to the effect that it's low-temperature processed, undenatured, and has the important glutathione-precursor peptides left intact or undamaged, it isn't. This review of many studies highlights the usefulness of cold- extracted whey in cancer therapy: Whey Protein Concentrate (WPC) and Glutathione Modulation in Cancer Treatment (Published in Nov/Dec 2000 edition of Anticancer Research International Journal of Cancer Research and Treatment, Clinical Studies section) (PDF) http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/WPC-as-a-Cysteine-Donor.pdf > > If bodybulder use whey because it contains IGF-1, wouldn't it be counter-indicated for cancer patients for that excat same reason? > > Not by what I've read. Whey contains negligible IGF-1, and just like a baby animal you'd have to use it as a staple food to get a therapeutic dose of growth factors. We have, all of us, cancer cells in our bodies every day; in other words we are all harboring cancerous cells all the time. But patients of a study who used IGF-1 enhancers including HGH had almost no cancer at all, while the controls of course had the normal cancer rates. That was despite HGH/IGF-1 therapy being given at much higher therapeutic doses than you'd get with whey powder. All cells require HGH/IGF-1 for repair and growth, true, but the presence of this/these homones reduces the spread of cancer. The reason promoted is that healthy cells, even cancer cells, divide less often than stressed cells. Another reason that may be helping is that the white blood cell (NK cells) proliferation requires HGH/IGF-1; these cells are the cancer eaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I will agree that most mlm marketing companies commonly repeat the claim that their product is the 'ONLY' product that has science to back it up. Immunocal is the end result (product) of Dr. Bounous research. Immunocal is the product name that holds the patents. Yes it is direct sales, thank goodness, because that spread the word quickly of it's benefits. Dr. Bounous was Immunotec Research until he retired a few years ago back to his native country Italy. So while I won't argue what you say about most mlm's, Immunocal happens to be the real deal. What I think you're saying is that being an mlm it may be more costly to the consumer then other undenatured whey proteins, that you say do the same thing. All I say is Immunocal is the original whey protein that is proven to raise intracellular glutathione. I am aware of no other whey proteins with research to back it up. I'd be interested to know if there are. WHEY AND CANCER > > > > > > > interesting what you write about whey.- > > > > I have two questions. > > > > Is there a way of knowing whether a whey product is cold- > > extracted or not? > > Yes, you can be fairly sure that if the whey product is not labeled > with words to the effect that it's low-temperature processed, > undenatured, and has the important glutathione-precursor peptides > left intact or undamaged, it isn't. > > This review of many studies highlights the usefulness of cold- > extracted whey in cancer therapy: > > Whey Protein Concentrate (WPC) and Glutathione Modulation in Cancer > Treatment (Published in Nov/Dec 2000 edition of Anticancer Research > International Journal of Cancer Research and Treatment, Clinical > Studies section) (PDF) > http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/WPC-as-a-Cysteine-Donor.pdf > > > > > If bodybulder use whey because it contains IGF-1, wouldn't it be > counter-indicated for cancer patients for that excat same reason? > > > > > > Not by what I've read. Whey contains negligible IGF-1, and just like > a baby animal you'd have to use it as a staple food to get a > therapeutic dose of growth factors. > > We have, all of us, cancer cells in our bodies every day; in other > words we are all harboring cancerous cells all the time. But patients > of a study who used IGF-1 enhancers including HGH had almost no > cancer at all, while the controls of course had the normal cancer > rates. That was despite HGH/IGF-1 therapy being given at much higher > therapeutic doses than you'd get with whey powder. > > All cells require HGH/IGF-1 for repair and growth, true, but the > presence of this/these homones reduces the spread of cancer. The > reason promoted is that healthy cells, even cancer cells, divide less > often than stressed cells. Another reason that may be helping is that > the white blood cell (NK cells) proliferation requires HGH/IGF-1; > these cells are the cancer eaters. > > > > > > > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.ws. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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