Re: spammers.... oooh!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:13:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Lots of people who appear on these forums are pushing for various different

> types of healthcare remedies, and since this is an alternative forum

But they are not trying to TRICK people by making believe it is

altruistic/free and then scamming them by deception when they actually go to the

site.

This is unacceptable. If you are selling something, be up front about it. We

don't need trickery on this site. Cancer patients need to stay positive.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:13:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> know that lots of you would be prejudiced against anything I post here

> even without reading it, simply because you know that " rsimmons133 " is this

guy

> who works for an alternative laser cancer clinic

I don't think that's true! We have several people who are professionals here

in the industry and they are very much respected.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:13:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> least three new patients that heard about Lase Med in THIS forum have

> scheduled treatments for this month,

I am just disappointed in it's current limitations..for instance, colon

cancer which is a biggie, is not on the treatment list.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:13:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> , at least three new patients that heard about Lase Med in THIS forum have

> scheduled treatments

and...we very much want feedback from them.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 9:08:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> surgical applications of LIESH will someday be available. The physics of

> killing the neoplasty is exactly the same if done internally, it just isn't

> feasable right now.

>

Why couldn't the laser bring the heat right through to the colon?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 10:50:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> The effective range of this laser is up to four inches beneath skin

> surface, and getting the indicator solution directly into the colon would

require

> surgery.

>

What about a thin flexible pipe, like they use in an angiogram (I am neither

a doctor or scientist..just an artist/designer so my mind is imagining a means

of transmission).

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/06 10:50:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Why couldn't the laser bring the heat right through to the colon?

>

> The effective range of this laser is up to four inches beneath skin

> surface, and getting the indicator solution directly into the colon would

require

> surgery.

>

Aren't there parts of the colon that are within that range for a thin person?

[Guest guest]

I am just disappointed in it's current limitations..for instance, colon

cancer which is a biggie, is not on the treatment list.

Right now that's where they have to draw the line though.

It's an outpatient facility and there is no surgical team attached to the

clinic. The establishment in the area are MOST uncooperative, but hopefully as

this procedure gets more mainstream acceptance, surgical applications of LIESH

will someday be available. The physics of killing the neoplasty is exactly the

same if done internally, it just isn't feasable right now.

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:13:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> least three new patients that heard about Lase Med in THIS forum have

> scheduled treatments for this month,

I am just disappointed in it's current limitations..for instance, colon

cancer which is a biggie, is not on the treatment list.

[Guest guest]

Why couldn't the laser bring the heat right through to the colon?

The effective range of this laser is up to four inches beneath skin surface,

and getting the indicator solution directly into the colon would require

surgery.

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/6/06 9:08:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> surgical applications of LIESH will someday be available. The physics of

> killing the neoplasty is exactly the same if done internally, it just isn't

> feasable right now.

>

Why couldn't the laser bring the heat right through to the colon?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/7/06 8:38:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> As far as the " flexible pipe " thing you mention: apparently the engineers

> are working toward a sort of endoscopic applicator for the LIESH laser, but as

> of yet it is just in planning stages

Parts of the colon are within the 4 " requirement.

[Guest guest]

As far as the " flexible pipe " thing you mention: apparently the engineers are

working toward a sort of endoscopic applicator for the LIESH laser, but as of

yet it is just in planning stages. Introduction of the indicator solution

presents more logistical problems.

szukidavis@... wrote: In a message dated 5/6/06 10:50:41 PM Eastern

Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Why couldn't the laser bring the heat right through to the colon?

>

> The effective range of this laser is up to four inches beneath skin

> surface, and getting the indicator solution directly into the colon would

require

> surgery.

>

Aren't there parts of the colon that are within that range for a thin person?

[Guest guest]

I have been attacked here a couple of times, but not by those who are always

here all the time. The " regulars " on cures for cancer know that I am a distributor of

metabolic nutrition, but also know that I don't push it on anyone. I do

recommend it from time to time.

Chemo and radiation did almost kill me and should have. Of course the cancer was

supposed to have killed me too. Alternative therapies and nutrition did save my

life. I don't just recommend the nutrition that saved my life though. I

recommend a whole host of other alternative info, if I believe it will help

someone and don't profit one red cent.

In fact, I don't profit from my own nutrition products either because I always

offer my distributor discount to cancer patients, in an effort to help them

without the financial burden cancer causes. I lost everything to cancer, except

my life!

Most of us here can tell when somene is sincere and is only here to share and to

help. Most of us can also pick out those who come here to try to make a profit

from the desperation of some of us to beat this disease and save our lives. It's

all in how you present yourself and how long you choose to stay here with us. We

will know your intentions.

Blessings,

Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: Lots of people who appear on

these forums are pushing for various different types of healthcare remedies, and

since this is an alternative forum, most of them do revolve around

vitamin-oriented regimens. You know, unless you grow your own herbs and extract

your own " extracts, " someone DOES stand to make a profit, even for " natural "

therapies. I would not doubt that some here may even have stocks in some of

these vitamin industries. I have to admit though, saying something is free when

in fact it is not, is deception; and adding an " MD " suffix to the name only adds

insult to injury.

I know that lots of you would be prejudiced against anything I post here even

without reading it, simply because you know that " rsimmons133 " is this guy who

works for an alternative laser cancer clinic. I cannot help the fact that lasers

don't grow on trees or vines, nor that there is only one prototype of this

particular device in existance at this time. However, in my posts I have tried

to convey that although I am not a patient, in the time I have been there I have

repeatedly seen total destruction of cancer in patients for whom chemo had

almost killed them, radiation only made the cancer metastasize, and vitamins and

natural-herbal therapies were not getting the desired results either.

I am happy to say though, that because of the word that a few of us have

recently spread through this and other internet forums, at least three new

patients that heard about Lase Med in THIS forum have scheduled treatments for

this month, and in due time, their stories will very likely be shared here. A

few past patients have shared their success stories online in other places,

including radio interviews, but because of the flood of people constantly

emailing them, I have yet to be able to get one to this forum yet. Sure, I could

go to the Lase Med Inc forum and paste it into this one, but that is not what I

want to do.

Everyone here has their own particular soapbox, and we all are of one accord

in terms of opposing the big pharma medical mafia, but if " spammer " is a title

that people like me must wear, then so be it.

---------------------------------

Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates

starting at 1 & cent;/min.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2006 8:04:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

msfitnes01@... writes:

Everyone here has their own particular soapbox, and we all are of one accord

in terms of opposing the big pharma medical mafia, but if " spammer " is a

title that people like me must wear, then so be it.

When people get mad because you share a good product because they are afraid

you might profit are locked into a lie of the AMA. The AMA has brainwashed

people that making a profit is an evil motive when in reality the AMA. FDA

etc. are the ones with the evil motives. Propaganda really works on the minds

of the people and they are fearful about everything and unable to make common

sense decisions like poisons are not necessary evils or recognize people

have to make profits. Fearing someone may make a profit is rooted in fear that

robs people of lack of common sense. Who has the money to give everything

away? If a person is willing to lie to make a profit that is evil? But making

a profit is not evil, lying and deceiving for profit is evil. We are

intelligent beings and should remember we should also use common sense. We are

able

to discern truth if we get knowledge, so why should making a profit be a

concern? Do we go buy a car and expect them to not make a profit? Do we buy

food and expect them to not make a profit? I personally give a lot of things

away and do it because I have compassion, but I am NOT rich. We can only give

so

much. Even Bill Gates could not afford to not make a profit. Without

profits who can afford to live.

I wrote a book and give it away ONLY because it does not cost me more than

10 dollars a month to give an ebook away. It does not matter if 1 persons

downloads the book or 10 million download the book, it is still only $10.00

dollars a month. I have people ask me for a hard copy and I literally have

to

tell them I can't afford to give hard copies away. I have given a few away,

but who has that kind of income to offer free books unlimited. The internet

does make giving unlimited knowledge away though. That is why I made a web

site that I can share my book and knowledge.

Would it not be a good idea for all who have knowledge and good products to

have a web site so people can make good decisions based on the knowledge you

share. They can shop and compare with others through word searches too. I

think it is a great idea for those who have testimonies to create a simple web

site to give all the details instead of having to repeat themselves over and

over and possibly miss telling some crucial bits of knowledge that could

save lives.

God Bless

Diann Messer

[Guest guest]

GCN network---what and where??

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/06 4:29:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

MiracleDetox@... writes:

> Everyone here has their own particular soapbox, and we all are of one

> accord

> in terms of opposing the big pharma medical mafia, but if " spammer " is a

> title that people like me must wear, then so be it.

>

I think that what we want here is information and then be left to make up our

own minds about it.

No one here wants the pressure of a salesman. If someone has a cutting edge

product or something that can help people then state your case and then let it

go. Otherwise we would have tons of spam from every vitamin company on the

planet and our list wouldn't be the oasis for people with health concerns that

it has been.

We are here to learn and to help one another, not to sell -sell -sell.

[Guest guest]

Well, I hope that 's post the other day (it's listed as a RE: to the

" 's Lase Med attack " thread) was able to fill in some of the gaps. She

has been with them a lot longer that I have and knows the entire history of the

project. I guess I was taking a big risk jumping out into the e-forums with

limited experience in the company, but like I've said, the patients that I have

met have convinced me in a relatively short time, and I wanted to spread the

word in previously uncharted avenues. I have experience in forums, but mainly

dealing with conspiracy theories and the so-called New World Order... but I

temporarily took off my " tinfoil hat " when I came into the cancer community,

because for me it has been an extremely eye opening experience, and I am excited

to be a part of it.

As far as profit goes, they actually live a very modest lifestyle. They live

in a middle class neighborhood, mixed with rental properties and privately owned

homes. To see the house they live in, you would never think that people fly in

from all over the world to get their treatment. And like explained, the

company has only turned a net profit in the last year or so, out of the

twenty-year history of the project.

As far as the website goes, it is still a work in progress... with the

exception of the " Also Sprach Zarathustra " music on the main page, all the

cheesy animation and effects can be blamed directly on me. I created the

animated sun (based on their original sun logo), the flying texts, the forum

intro animation, and even more recently a catchy little sound loop on the forum

page. With the experience of being blackballed by government agencies in the

past, in their previous line of work, they have naturally been more concerned

with privacy than with advertising. (Still, the only advertising done on a

regular basis is on the GCN radio network.) When the idea of adding patient

testimonials to the website was brought up, I had the idea of making the

testimonials interactive, and putting them in the form of a group. The

" group " is only a month old or so, and for reasons that explained earlier,

getting people to go public with their stories is not always easy, due to

the fear of losing disability benefits. The public testimonials will eventually

get more numerous over time, as the for-profit aspect of Lase Med is still VERY

young. (again, read 's explanation).

Many here may not be aware of this, but there is still an offer of free

treatment which is currently being sponsored by the GCN network. In order to

qualify, a candidate must call Lase Med and say that he/she wants to be

considered for the free treatment advertised in the April interview. (The entire

interview is on the website.) The patient who is chosen will have the entire

series of treatments, plus travel and lodging, paid for by the GCN network. All

they ask is that the patient's progress be followed up on future broadcasts.

That means after the treatment, he/she will be asked some questions on the radio

about the treatment experience, and probably the before and after ultrasound

results... then after three or four months, they will ask the patient to come

back on the air and give a progress report.

racleDetox@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/8/2006 8:04:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

msfitnes01@... writes:

Everyone here has their own particular soapbox, and we all are of one accord

in terms of opposing the big pharma medical mafia, but if " spammer " is a

title that people like me must wear, then so be it.

When people get mad because you share a good product because they are afraid

you might profit are locked into a lie of the AMA. The AMA has brainwashed

people that making a profit is an evil motive when in reality the AMA. FDA

etc. are the ones with the evil motives. Propaganda really works on the minds

of the people and they are fearful about everything and unable to make common

sense decisions like poisons are not necessary evils or recognize people

have to make profits. Fearing someone may make a profit is rooted in fear that

robs people of lack of common sense. Who has the money to give everything

away? If a person is willing to lie to make a profit that is evil? But making

a profit is not evil, lying and deceiving for profit is evil. We are

intelligent beings and should remember we should also use common sense. We are

able

to discern truth if we get knowledge, so why should making a profit be a

concern? Do we go buy a car and expect them to not make a profit? Do we buy

food and expect them to not make a profit? I personally give a lot of things

away and do it because I have compassion, but I am NOT rich. We can only give

so

much. Even Bill Gates could not afford to not make a profit. Without

profits who can afford to live.

I wrote a book and give it away ONLY because it does not cost me more than

10 dollars a month to give an ebook away. It does not matter if 1 persons

downloads the book or 10 million download the book, it is still only $10.00

dollars a month. I have people ask me for a hard copy and I literally have

to

tell them I can't afford to give hard copies away. I have given a few away,

but who has that kind of income to offer free books unlimited. The internet

does make giving unlimited knowledge away though. That is why I made a web

site that I can share my book and knowledge.

Would it not be a good idea for all who have knowledge and good products to

have a web site so people can make good decisions based on the knowledge you

share. They can shop and compare with others through word searches too. I

think it is a great idea for those who have testimonies to create a simple web

site to give all the details instead of having to repeat themselves over and

over and possibly miss telling some crucial bits of knowledge that could

save lives.

God Bless

Diann Messer

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/06 2:57:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> This is again

Hi ,

Thank you for taking the time to explain your situation. How soon will this

unit be available nationwide? We have many alternative doctors in my area that

would be interested if you set up a center here. Some of the names may be

familiar to you: Dr. Bock, Dr. Schachter, Dr. Wiedeshine, etc al. We are also

within 1-2 hrs. from NYC. So many people could benefit from LIESH.

[Guest guest]

I can't imagine that any patient would let a secret doc doing secret

research in a secret location inject a secret substance and shine a

secret light -- for $5,000.

This is your interpretation of FDA guidlines? But then you need to

hide from from mystery thieves who are trying to steal your mystery equipment.

At 11:55 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote:

>

>

>This is again. To answer your question, it is not a matter of

>clinics refusing to use the device. It is a one of a kind device,

>which it has to remain at the moment, in order to fall within the

>FDA's guidelines for what is labeled as an experimental treatment.

>As for your not being able to fathom the idea that people want to

>steal the device and/or idea, that is simply a fact of life, and it

>happens in any industry. I have personally seen it happen in other

>companies I have worked for in the past, to include large,

>world-wide corporations. In fact, Lase Med Inc includes in their

>information packet copies of three articles mentioning three Ivy

>League Universities (Stanford, Rice, & Dartmouth) that are trying to

>develop the same treatment as we speak (all to no avail, however). I

>just thought you might like to know this. Here are the links to

>these articles, if you'd like to read them:

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=2187 & ntid=130 & pg=1

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=904

>

> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/features/experts/Pogue.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/06 3:10:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

vgammill@... writes:

> This is your interpretation of FDA guidlines?

can we see the LEISH FDA approval information to satisfy those who are

rightfully are questioning the procedure.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/06 8:36:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> If either you or really care about finding out anything of value

> here

Excuse me..I have asked several questions of you that have not been addressed

and I don't appreciate your attitude.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/06 8:49:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Now she's really mad. Yes, I share the posts at the office fairly

> regularly. , by the way, is in her 36th week of pregnancy, and you know

what they

> say about Hell having no fury... -R

>

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.

[Guest guest]

Clearly, Vincenco, you can't seem to grasp anything. I have tried being patient

with you, but clearly that is a waste of time. If either you or really

care about finding out anything of value here, rather than spending all day

bashing the work of someone and something I'm sure you cannot understand (Do you

even have a job?), then all you have to do is contact the FDA yourself and ask,

you pretentious ass!

I challenge you to go to the websites of Baptist Health Systems, St. Jude

Hospital, the Mayo Clinic, or the Cancer Centers of America and find the

information you are demanding from us: a guarantee of effectiveness, details of

compunds and devices used, specific results of clinical trials; the names,

addresses, and phone numbers of patients treated; the names & credentials of the

doctors performing each treatment, and the exact cost of treatment ( I have no

idea where the $5,000 figure you spouted came from). Oh, and on the last point,

have you ever known anyone to question the cost of Chemotherapy (roughly $6,000

per injection) and Radiation, which combined usually total in the millions after

only the first round of treatments? Even when covered by insurance, the amount

left for the patient to pay is still enormous. Our treatment, by the way, is

covered by some types of insurance, leaving no amount due to the patient.

In conclusion, I suggest that you get your facts straight before openeing your

mouth.

-

VGammill <vgammill@...> wrote:

I can't imagine that any patient would let a secret doc doing secret

research in a secret location inject a secret substance and shine a

secret light -- for $5,000.

This is your interpretation of FDA guidlines? But then you need to

hide from from mystery thieves who are trying to steal your mystery equipment.

At 11:55 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote:

>

>

>This is again. To answer your question, it is not a matter of

>clinics refusing to use the device. It is a one of a kind device,

>which it has to remain at the moment, in order to fall within the

>FDA's guidelines for what is labeled as an experimental treatment.

>As for your not being able to fathom the idea that people want to

>steal the device and/or idea, that is simply a fact of life, and it

>happens in any industry. I have personally seen it happen in other

>companies I have worked for in the past, to include large,

>world-wide corporations. In fact, Lase Med Inc includes in their

>information packet copies of three articles mentioning three Ivy

>League Universities (Stanford, Rice, & Dartmouth) that are trying to

>develop the same treatment as we speak (all to no avail, however). I

>just thought you might like to know this. Here are the links to

>these articles, if you'd like to read them:

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=2187 & ntid=130 & pg=1

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=904

>

> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/features/experts/Pogue.html

>

>

Visit http://cures for cancer.ws.

[Guest guest]

I was really hoping that we had gotten beyond all this confrontational

ad-hominem crap by now, but Don Vicente had to go and stir the fire again. Now

she's really mad. Yes, I share the posts at the office fairly regularly. ,

by the way, is in her 36th week of pregnancy, and you know what they say about

Hell having no fury... -R

Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote:

Clearly, Vincenco, you can't seem to grasp anything. I have tried being

patient with you, but clearly that is a waste of time. If either you or

really care about finding out anything of value here, rather than spending all

day bashing the work of someone and something I'm sure you cannot understand (Do

you even have a job?), then all you have to do is contact the FDA yourself and

ask, you pretentious ass!

I challenge you to go to the websites of Baptist Health Systems, St. Jude

Hospital, the Mayo Clinic, or the Cancer Centers of America and find the

information you are demanding from us: a guarantee of effectiveness, details of

compunds and devices used, specific results of clinical trials; the names,

addresses, and phone numbers of patients treated; the names & credentials of the

doctors performing each treatment, and the exact cost of treatment ( I have no

idea where the $5,000 figure you spouted came from). Oh, and on the last point,

have you ever known anyone to question the cost of Chemotherapy (roughly $6,000

per injection) and Radiation, which combined usually total in the millions after

only the first round of treatments? Even when covered by insurance, the amount

left for the patient to pay is still enormous. Our treatment, by the way, is

covered by some types of insurance, leaving no amount due to the patient.

In conclusion, I suggest that you get your facts straight before openeing your

mouth.

-

VGammill <vgammill@...> wrote:

I can't imagine that any patient would let a secret doc doing secret

research in a secret location inject a secret substance and shine a

secret light -- for $5,000.

This is your interpretation of FDA guidlines? But then you need to

hide from from mystery thieves who are trying to steal your mystery equipment.

At 11:55 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote:

>

>

>This is again. To answer your question, it is not a matter of

>clinics refusing to use the device. It is a one of a kind device,

>which it has to remain at the moment, in order to fall within the

>FDA's guidelines for what is labeled as an experimental treatment.

>As for your not being able to fathom the idea that people want to

>steal the device and/or idea, that is simply a fact of life, and it

>happens in any industry. I have personally seen it happen in other

>companies I have worked for in the past, to include large,

>world-wide corporations. In fact, Lase Med Inc includes in their

>information packet copies of three articles mentioning three Ivy

>League Universities (Stanford, Rice, & Dartmouth) that are trying to

>develop the same treatment as we speak (all to no avail, however). I

>just thought you might like to know this. Here are the links to

>these articles, if you'd like to read them:

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=2187 & ntid=130 & pg=1

>

> http://nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=904

>

> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/features/experts/Pogue.html

>

>

Visit http://cures for cancer.ws.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/2006 7:36:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

In conclusion, I suggest that you get your facts straight before openeing

your mouth.

-

Amen

[Guest guest]

Hey, I wasn't trying to apologize for what she said.

I especially liked the " pretentious ass " part, lol.

She HAS addressed your questions, (both yours and Saint 's) and you

have been directed to contact the FDA... the answers you seek lie within. I

didn't come here to beg for patients (there is a waiting list, and people call

in from all over the world seeking this treatment) , nor to " defend " the proven

methods my boss uses, which are FDA approved and have taken place entirely

within FDA guidelines from the beginning. I only came here to try to spread the

word of a proven treatment that is not talked about much in the mainstream.

I am going to attach a post that recently came into a usenet newsgroup that I

recently joined... a group that reported me to the " abuse@ " dept for trying to

discourage people from using chemo and radiation before they consider other

avenues. This guy, despite his typos and spelling errors, can clearly see the

monopoly of thought which pervades in the cancer community:

<<<And I suppose the drug companies and oncologist who charge 10-40

thousand dollars per bag of chemo that they give us and 125.00 per bag

just to hang them on a pole and connect them to our ports are doing

this out of the goodness of there hearts? Give me a break, everybody is

into disease treatment (NOT CURES) for the money. Do you really think

them drugs cost that kind of money to make?

They will cure cancer when they devise a disease to replace it so big

pharma can keep raking in the dough at the cost of innocent lives. The

same drug companies that produce these costly chemo drugs that are

scientifically proven to work in only about 3% of patients also make the

chemicals that are put in our food that cause the cancers to begin with.

If something is dangerous, don't sell it plain and simple. They took

most effective home yard pest chemicals off the market because they were

harmful to te water table and wildlife. Yet cigaerettes, booze and diet

sodas are the big three in terms of cancer causers in the world, why do

they still sell thm? In fact our school system just voted to allow only

diet sodas to be sold in middle & high schools in an effort to deal with

obesity.

America is the only country in the world that uses chlorine to purify

drinking water, every one else uses osmosis. Why do we use chlorine? Not

because it's better, but because it's cheap. Chlorine is the nation's

hidden assasin and is causing an enormous amount of health problems

including many forms of cancers. States in hot climates have higher

cancer rate because the water pipes are close to the surface since they

don't freeze like up north and being closer to the surface the heat

requires higher concentrations of chlorine to kill off bacteria and

algae. plus there are swimming pools at every other home which generates

a huge amount of chlorine gas. and here in Fla the heat, humdity and

nearness to sea level keeps that gas low to the ground where it is

breathed in unoticed. The shower is the worst culprit as the hot water

opens your pours to absorb more chlorine and the steam allows direct

inhalation of the chlorine.

My advice to anyone is put a filter system on your home that will remove

that chlorine, stop smoking, stop drinking or at least do it in

moderation, give up diet sodas and avoid proccessed sugar and the cancer

rates will begin to plummet. The average american consumes 140lbs uf

sugar per year which screws your gut PH all up and leads to candida

yeast overgrowth which causes a great deal of GI cancers and other

diseases.

I'm just as open to trying something new and untested as long as it

won't kill me and is reasonable in price as I am to trying traditional

tried medicines, let's not forget many cancer patients were cured over

the years with clinical trial drugs. We should not be so closed minded

and insulting to people with new ideas. That sort of treatment is why

many great ideas never make it to fruition. Don't forget chemo was

invented from poison mustard gas during a war and most chemo drugs

themselves are highly carcinigistic and corrosive. Most of them while

they help treat and in some cases do acheive NED status for lucky

patients, they also do serious damage to our bodies that set us up for

secondary cancers down the road. It's common knowledge that just working

around these chemicals, mixing and administering them can cause birth

defects for the workers. Why do you think you never see an oncologist

mix or administer them? In a recent poll of Canadian oncologist while

most agreed that chemo should be used by anyone with cancer, most said

that they personaly would not use them if they had cancer.

Given it's rate of success chemo isn't much above snake oil itself. I

read one oncolgist said and I beleive it. He said chemo won't cure you

but it may keep you alive long enough to cure yourself by making changes

to your environment (stress), eating and personal habbits, frame of mind

(positive attitude & faith) and getting at the root cause of your

disease and removing what caused it in the first place.

America has the highest rate of cancer in the world and it is directly

attributed to our standard amercan diet (SAD) many foreigners find after

moving here and adoptng our diets they start getting cancers. A human

body is like a computer, You put sh@t in, you get sh@t out.

Unfortunately I had to get stage 4 colon cancer to find that out.

If every single cancer patient in the world would take five mnutes a day

just to pray and ask god or whatever higher power you believe in to open

the minds, eyes and hearts of the doctors and scientists who study

cancer and show them the cure of this disease for all of us, it just

might make a difference. I believe God put everything we need to deal

with any situation here on this earth, we just have to find it. So many

diseases that were once thought to be incurable have been cured and I

believe there is a cure for cancer. I pray that it just needs to be

found yet and is not locked in a safe in secret so men can profit off

the treatments or worse yet was simply discounted, scoffed at and

forgotten about by people who need to see it written in stone before

they will believe it like the ones I see attacking this poster, that

would truly be sad.. Maybe it's real, maybe not but don't judge it and

toss t aside unless you have tried it and know it does or does not work,

by doing that you may be causing someone who might benefit by it to not

try it. There is only one judge. >>>>

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 5/10/06 8:49:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Now she's really mad. Yes, I share the posts at the office fairly

> regularly. , by the way, is in her 36th week of pregnancy, and you know

what they

> say about Hell having no fury... -R

>

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.