Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Moonbeam Can you dredge up the amount of tumeric is needed in dealing with cancer in adults? And, I understand that piperine is it's cofactor...... that's in black pepper.... how much of that? I saw something a couple of weeks ago that talked about the COX-2 inhibition qualities of tumeric and aksi VIOXX and Celebrex and another drug and that it's the COX-2 qualities that trigger the angiogenesis. GInger also has significant COX-2 effect, by the way. thanks, mjh In a message dated 9/10/2004 6:37:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moonbeam@... writes: Hi, oranges provide vitamin C, bananas help remove radioactive particles from the body and Tumeric is a source of Curcummin. Curcummin is mentioned in protocol 1 as an anti-angiogenises effector. This means stopping the proliferation of blood vessels, that is necessary for a tumor to expand and grow. The reference on Bananas removing radioactive particles from the body comes from a friend named Jim who worked at Hanford Nuclear facility for 40 years. Slight exposure to radioactivity is the leading cause fo Leukiemia. m. Oranges, Bananas And Turmeric Prevent Leukaemia By Shaoni Bhattacharya NewScientist.com 9-10-4 Giving infants oranges and bananas regularly may halve their risk of developing childhood leukaemia, suggest the results of a new study. And a diet containing the curry spice turmeric may also be protective - accounting for the differences in childhood leukaemia rates between east and west - says a leading scientist. Children who ate oranges, orange juice or bananas between four to six times a week during their first two years of life had a significantly reduced risk of developing the cancer, revealed the observational study by US researchers. Previous studies on childhood leukaemias have not examined the effects of the overall diet in this way, focusing more on possible risk foods like cured meats. " Our study is unique, and we have elucidated a significant protective association with the consumption of oranges, bananas and orange juice, " says Marilyn Kwan, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Berkeley. However, she cautions that without carrying out a randomised controlled trial, it is difficult to predict exactly how protective eating these fruits may be, or to make firm public health recommendations. But she notes that in her study " there was a 50 per cent reduction in risk " . The evidence for oranges and bananas, and turmeric in preventing leukaemia was presented at Children with Leukaemia's international leukaemia conference in London, UK, on Thursday. Luncheon meats Kwan and colleagues studied 328 children under 15 who had developed leukaemia and matched controls. Questionnaires were given to each child's mother on the child's eating habits between birth and age two. Nine food groups were discussed, including: hotdogs, hamburgers, vegetables, apples and grapes, oranges and bananas, and carbonated drinks. Two previous studies have found that eating cured meats like hotdogs or luncheon meats increased the risk of brain tumours and, to a lesser extent, leukaemia in children. However, the new study did not confirm this link. Kwan believes that diet between birth and two could be crucial. " We think it might be a critical window of exposure, " she told New Scientist. " There are a lot of developmental processes occurring during that time. " Oranges and bananas may protect against childhood leukaemia because they are a rich source of vitamin C, which is an antioxidant. They could act by reducing oxidative DNA damage, and so stop the initiation of cancerous pr ocesses. Bananas are also rich in potassium. Animal studies have indicated that potassium stabilises DNA and can reduce rates of mutation. Baby food Turmeric may also protect against childhood leukaemia, suggests Moolky Nagabhushan, a cancer research scientist at Loyola University Medical Centre in Chicago, US. He and colleagues in India have shown protective effects of the yellow spice's main active component - curcumin - in a long-running series of studies. And curcumin is now undergoing initial safety testing in humans. Childhood leukaemia rates are much lower in Asia than in western countries - and this could be due to differences in diet. The cancer is the most common childhood cancer in the west, afflicting at least one child in every 100,000. But in India, if affects only 1 child in 1,000,000. The consumption of turmeric is high in India - some estimates suggest each adult eats an average of 3 to 5 grams a day. Nagabhushan's work has shown that curcumin and other turmeric extracts can block the mutagenic effects of cancer-causing agents called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons from smoke emissions. In animal studies, it inhibited the formation of stomach and skin tumours. And curcumin can also mop up cellular molecules involved in tumour development. Curcumin is a powerful antioxidant he says. " They put so many antioxidants in food - but instead of artificial antioxidants, they could use this, " he told New Scientist. He suggests it could even be used in baby foods after strict safety testing. Kwan's work has been accepted for publication in the November issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology. © Copyright Business Information Ltd. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996384 mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 In a message dated 9/10/04 6:49:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foxhillers@... writes: > GInger also has significant COX-2 effect, by the way. > I take Ginger for osteoarthritis and the more I consume the better I feel. It settles my stomach while Celebrex and the other similiar drugs rip it up. The drugs that are pushed by drug companies for arthritic pain and now cancer are very dangerous. Best to stick with ginger and chinese herbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 In a message dated 9/11/04 8:30:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, moonbeam@... writes: > Celebrex does not rip up the stomach, but things like it do. > Celebrex DOES rip up the stomach. Talk to some people who have had that effect. The drug companies would have you believe it is different, but that is their spin in order to sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Hi, if you read protocol 1, you will see it says 2gm Curcummin daily. Since Curcummin is 1% of Tumeric, that would mean 2kg of Tumeric a day. personally i would rather take 2gm curcummin a day with piperine added, than 2,000gm of Tumeric a day. Piperine is for bioavailability. Celebrex does not rip up the stomach, but things like it do. m. cures for cancer From: foxhillers@... Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:44:23 EDT Subject: Re: Tumertic stops Leukemia Send reply to: cures for cancer > Moonbeam > > Can you dredge up the amount of tumeric is needed in dealing with cancer in > adults? And, I understand that piperine is it's cofactor...... that's in black > pepper.... how much of that? > > I saw something a couple of weeks ago that talked about the COX-2 inhibition > qualities of tumeric and aksi VIOXX and Celebrex and another drug and that > it's the COX-2 qualities that trigger the angiogenesis. > > GInger also has significant COX-2 effect, by the way. > > thanks, > mjh > > > In a message dated 9/10/2004 6:37:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > moonbeam@... writes: > Hi, > oranges provide vitamin C, bananas help remove radioactive particles > from the body and > Tumeric is a source of Curcummin. > Curcummin is mentioned in protocol 1 as an anti-angiogenises effector. This > means stopping the > proliferation of blood vessels, that is necessary for a tumor to expand and > grow. > The reference on Bananas removing radioactive particles from the body comes > from a friend > named Jim who worked at Hanford Nuclear facility for 40 years. Slight > exposure to radioactivity is > the leading cause fo Leukiemia. > > m. > > Oranges, Bananas And Turmeric Prevent Leukaemia > By Shaoni Bhattacharya > NewScientist.com > 9-10-4 > > > Giving infants oranges and bananas regularly may halve their risk of > developing childhood > leukaemia, suggest the results of a new study. And a diet containing the > curry spice turmeric may > also be protective - accounting for the differences in childhood leukaemia > rates between east and > west - says a leading scientist. > > Children who ate oranges, orange juice or bananas between four to six times a > week during their > first two years of life had a significantly reduced risk of developing the > cancer, revealed the > observational study by US researchers. > > Previous studies on childhood leukaemias have not examined the effects of the > overall diet in this > way, focusing more on possible risk foods like cured meats. > > " Our study is unique, and we have elucidated a significant protective > association with the > consumption of oranges, bananas and orange juice, " says Marilyn Kwan, an > epidemiologist at the > University of California, Berkeley. > > However, she cautions that without carrying out a randomised controlled > trial, it is difficult to predict > exactly how protective eating these fruits may be, or to make firm public > health recommendations. > But she notes that in her study " there was a 50 per cent reduction in risk " . > > The evidence for oranges and bananas, and turmeric in preventing leukaemia > was presented at > Children with Leukaemia's international leukaemia conference in London, UK, > on Thursday. > > Luncheon meats > > Kwan and colleagues studied 328 children under 15 who had developed leukaemia > and matched > controls. Questionnaires were given to each child's mother on the child's > eating habits between > birth and age two. Nine food groups > were discussed, including: hotdogs, hamburgers, vegetables, apples and > grapes, oranges and bananas, and carbonated drinks. > > Two previous studies have found that eating cured meats like hotdogs or > luncheon meats increased the risk of brain tumours and, to a lesser extent, > leukaemia in children. However, the new study did not confirm this link. > > Kwan believes that diet between birth and two could be crucial. " We think it > might be a critical window of exposure, " she told New Scientist. " There are a > lot of developmental processes occurring during that time. " > > Oranges and bananas may protect against childhood leukaemia because they are > a rich source of vitamin C, which is an antioxidant. They could act by > reducing oxidative DNA damage, and so stop the initiation of cancerous pr > ocesses. > > Bananas are also rich in potassium. Animal studies have indicated that > potassium stabilises DNA and can reduce rates of mutation. > > Baby food > > Turmeric may also protect against childhood leukaemia, suggests Moolky > Nagabhushan, a cancer research scientist at Loyola University Medical Centre in > Chicago, US. He and colleagues in India have shown protective effects > of the yellow spice's main active component - curcumin - in a long-running > series of studies. And curcumin is now undergoing initial safety testing in > humans. > > Childhood leukaemia rates are much lower in Asia than in western countries - > and this could be due to differences in diet. The cancer is the most common > childhood cancer in the west, afflicting at least one child in every > 100,000. But in India, if affects only 1 child in 1,000,000. The consumption > of turmeric is high in India - some estimates suggest each adult eats an > average of 3 to 5 grams a day. > > Nagabhushan's work has shown that curcumin and other turmeric extracts can > block the mutagenic effects of cancer-causing agents called polycyclic aromatic > hydrocarbons from smoke emissions. In animal studies, it inhibited > the formation of stomach and skin tumours. And curcumin can also mop up > cellular molecules involved in tumour development. > > Curcumin is a powerful antioxidant he says. " They put so many antioxidants in > food - but instead of > artificial antioxidants, they could use this, " he told New Scientist. He > suggests it could even be > used in baby foods after strict safety testing. > > Kwan's work has been accepted for publication in the November issue of the > American Journal of > Epidemiology. > > © Copyright Business Information Ltd. > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996384 > > mjh > http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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