Re: anxiety/pain management

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In a message dated 3/10/04 6:27:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

leonardleonard1@... writes:

> Natural Approaches to Relieving Cancer Pain

> (CAPITALIZED items are reportedly most effective)

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This is a wonderful list of information.

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In a message dated 3/10/04 6:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rbeiswenger@... writes:

> Any idea as to where the pain is coming from? It

> sounds like your friend is doing rather well and should not have any pain. I

> guess I thought that only people who were in a worse condition would have

> such pain.

>

> Perhaps someone else on the list can/will address this issue.

>

>

Could the pain be an effect of chemo?

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Natural Approaches to Relieving Cancer Pain

(CAPITALIZED items are reportedly most effective)

FOODS:

flaxseed oil mixed w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC) or yogurt

cherries

tempeh & FERMENTED SOY products-- reduces inflammation

HERBS:

FLOR-ESSENCE/ESSIAC

NONI JUICE

mushrooms-- MAITAKE (alleviated pain in 83% of patients), CORDYCEPS, shiitake &

reishi

YAN HU SUO--from Chinese fumewort; " HAS BEEN COMPARED TO MORPHINE "

www.naturalhealthconsult.com/Monographs/yanhusuo.html

PURPLE CONE FLOWER-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

LOBELIA-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

angelica

Pau d'Arco

goldenseal root poultices

echinacea

mistletoe (e.g., Iscador)-- use only under medical supervision

chaparral--check with a practitioner on hazards before using it

Pain caused by inflammation can be reduced by anti-inflammatory herbs (e.g.,

turmeric/curcumin, burdock, ginger)

VITAMINS:

Vitamin B-3 (Niacin)-- 50 mg, up to 6x/day (in Gerson therapy)

Vit. C-- I've seen 500 mg, 6x/day recommended

Vit. K

AMYGDALIN-- relieves pain, nausea, and vomiting. Available in the form of ground

apricot pits. Do NOT exceed recommended oral dosage. Do NOT take megadoses of

Vit. C while taking Laetrile/amygdalin (unless directed by physician), and do

NOT use Laetrile/amygdalin at times of fever. Take it with food, in several

small dosages throughout the day (NOT 1 large dosage). Use a good brand.

MISC.

fish oil

homeopathic remedies-- particularly Aconitum (1M or 10M dose)

poly-MVA

CoQ10-- at least 200mg/day

protease (bromelain & pancreatin)--reduce inflammation if taken on empty stomach

hydrazine sulfate

germanium-132 (Ge-132)-- very effective pain reliever; take moderate to large

doses ONLY under supervision of physician

alkalinzing one's body

CESIUM-- use ONLY under medical supervision. May take up to 3 days to be

effective. For more info on cesium for pain relief, see " The Pain of Terminal

Cancer on pp. 313- of Painfree in Six Weeks by Sherry ; reprinted at

www.getandstaywell.com/archive32.shtml

dental detox-- elimination of dental infections (consult a holistic dentist)

castor oil packs

coffee enemas and other detox methods

MAGNETS-- see Diamond et al. (1997, pp. 1032-1046)

Rife machines

HULDA CLARK'S " ZAPPER "

Reiki & other energy healing

prayer

VISUALIZATION/IMAGERY, MEDITATION, & RELAXATION TECHNIQUES

exercise

For more info on mind-body approaches,

www.annieappleseedproject.org/annieappleseedproject/painfordealw.html

PAIN CONTROL and SURGICAL SUPPORT series audiotapes by Hemi-Sync

(www.hemi-sync.com/catalog)-- I've been told they can be powerfully

pain-relieving.

acupuncture

neural therapy

polarizing treatment (GKI)

" Dr. Rowen in his newsletter Second Opinion, wrote about the remarkable

results obtained by simply exerting a slight pressure on the edge of a muscle or

tendon...applied in a 90 degree direction perpendicular to its line of force.

This results in a relaxation of the muscle or tendon....originated by Tom

Bowen....can be used for Muscle sprains, carpal tunnel..., elbow problems, PMS,

menopause, fibroids, prostate problems, sciatica, migraines, ear

problems...TMJ...respiratory problems and even organ dysfunctions....Bowen

Registry...866-862-6936....USBR@...)

For more info on cancer pain relief, see www.alkalizeforhealth.org

www.stopcancer.com/pain.htm

www.painsupport.co.uk (natural methods; not specifically cancer)

For healing cancer, it's best (if possible) to AVOID/minimize the use of opiates

and chemical painkillers other than (possibly) aspirin and naltrexone.

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Eva,

I am interested in the responses you get regarding pain management. I don't

" know " what is best, but I would at least consider acupuncture.

I have a question for you: Any idea as to where the pain is coming from? It

sounds like your friend is doing rather well and should not have any pain. I

guess I thought that only people who were in a worse condition would have

such pain.

Perhaps someone else on the list can/will address this issue.

Bob B.

anxiety/pain management

> Hi all,

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> I am new on this forum and already found it very informative.

> My friend was diagnosed last July with small cell lung cancer that

> mestasized to his lymph nodes, liver, bones, and pancreas.

> He was given time until December.

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> Well, he's still alive, on very intensive chemo and some naturophatic

> treatment at the Cancer Treatment Center. His blood tests are very

> good, like an average healthy person, and cancer is in remission with

> exception of two spots on his liver. After three months of being on

> O2 24/7, he does not need it any more: can breath by himself sine

> December, and his blood saturation levels are good.

>

> He is taking Astragalus, Melatonin, vit C, MGN3, and dr.Rath's

> formula for healthy cells growth.

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> So far, we have been pretty successful fighting the battle.

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> The thing we cannot manage is pain. He's on morphine (150mg per day),

> Xanax for anxiety, and still cannot sleep (wakes around 2am, after

> 4hrs of sleep) and complains about all kind of pains in different

> parts of his body.

>

> Any suggestions? I would truly appreciate your advise.

>

> thank you kindly,

>

> Eva

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Thank you all,

I will start researching products listed by Leonard today.

So far I've tried different kinds of herbal tea: used to work

for a while, calming him a little. Same with dr.Bach's Rescue Remedy.

The problem is that my friend does not believe in holistic medicine,

herbs, etc. He does not participate actively in his healing process,

neither. He's kind of waiting for doctors – and me – to cure him.

So far, I've been successful with maintaining his diet (macrobiotic)

and persuading him to take supplements like dr.Rath's formula.

I am very worried about him taking Morphine, Xanax, Tamazepam, and

two more anti-depressants at the same time. I know that all this

medication may even cause him to stop breathing while asleep. I do

not want, however, to take away the little things he still does by

himself, and start controlling his intake of drugs. Not only that I

simply cannot evaluate or even understand the intensity of pain:

we've been told several times by his doctors that it's OK for him to

take all of it. The leading oncologist, however, admits that they

cannot establish working pain treatment.

Lack of sleep is a huge issue, too. Jack needs as much rest as

possible. Even healthy person would be exhausted after months of

restless nights… He's becoming less and less coherent, does not

remember lots of things, is irritable and – generally speaking – very

difficult to take care of.

We leave in NW Indiana, and I heard a lot about Block Medical Center

in ton. We cannot, however, afford a treatment there.

I worry so much… I am afraid that we put too much faith in

traditional approach toward pain treatment and now, in addition to

old issues, we have addiction and depression on Jack's plate.

Thank you for listening,

Eva