Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 In a message dated 4/11/04 6:56:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tdalton@... writes: > kaye wrote: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mossab442/1.html > Is this the same person that wrote about Islam last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? kaye wrote: > > http://www.geocities.com/mossab442/1.html > > Crimes in Iraq > > Will Fallujah Be Leveled? > > By Firas Al-Atraqchi > Freelance Columnist > 06/04/2004 > > US forces seal off Fallujah, Monday, April 5, in preparation for a major operation. > > The men of the restive city of Fallujah are not afraid. Speaking to reporters, they egg the US soldiers on. " Come into our city and we will show them what we are made of, " they say. " They have tanks and planes but are cowards, we will fight till there are none of us left, " others say. > > The people of Fallujah are expecting the worst. They know the US military will not allow itself to be humiliated in the manner of last week's mutilation and hanging of four killed US mercenaries working for the private security firm Blackwater. They know the US military will not allow the daily attacks on convoys to go unpunished. A few hours before the horrific mutilations and lynching, five US soldiers died when a powerful improvised explosive device ripped their armored personnel carrier apar > > And the US military is edging for a fight. On Monday morning, US forces closed off the Iraq-Amman highway which leads through Fallujah. Reporters attempting to enter the city have told this writer that they were told by US officers that the area surrounding Fallujah - and the city itself - is off-limits to reporters, a restrictive zone, expected to be closed down for anywhere between two to 10 days. > > Iraq analysts fear that the US is about to commit a war-crime by laying siege to Fallujah and punishing its citizens by disallowing shipments of food and water. > > With no independent reports from Fallujah, Iraq analysts warn the world could be kept in the dark about scores of civilians likely to be caught in military confrontation between US forces and Iraqi resistance. > > Coalition authorities have promised a swift and precise response to last week's mutilations of four contract servicemen who were ambushed in central Fallujah. However, in media reports filed before the city was cordoned off, angry Iraqis claimed that it was US policy in the area that fueled their anger. Among their complaints: > > Mounting of the foot over the neck of Iraqis - an affront in Iraqi society > > The detaining of Iraqi women and teenage girls > > The house searches well into the dead of night, using shock bombs, threats, and verbal abuse > > The returning of detained women, often barely clothed > > The killing of civilians by US forces with no assumption of responsibility or guilt > > Iraq is entering a perilous phase as Iraqis begin to realize that the freedom they were promised was a thinly-veiled farce aimed at extorting the country of its mineral and oil wealth. There is open revolt in the south of Iraq where the young cleric Muqtada Sadr has declared that negotiating and/or exercising democratic tools like protests and demonstrations has not worked with the Coalition. His Mahdi Army has seized several police stations throughout the south of Iraq. US forces retaliated by > > As the first anniversary of the fall of Baghdad arrives, the fall of Iraq into absolute anarchy seems imminent. > > A Year in Numbers > http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2...ter/index.shtml <http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2004/03/yearlater/index.shtml> > > For more information about Islam: > http://www.geocities.com/um_mossab141/1.html > > Contact me at > islamq_a@... > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting htt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 You can report her for spamming our list at: > >> help@... > > > thats why we have a delete button or block sender. Bev. > what the h > > > what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? > > > kaye wrote: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mossab442/1.html > > > > Crimes in Iraq > > > > Will Fallujah Be Leveled? > > > > By Firas Al-Atraqchi > > Freelance Columnist > > 06/04/2004 > > > > US forces seal off Fallujah, Monday, April 5, in preparation for a major > operation. > > > > The men of the restive city of Fallujah are not afraid. Speaking to > reporters, they egg the US soldiers on. " Come into our city and we will show them > what we are made of, " they say. " They have tanks and planes but are cowards, > we will fight till there are none of us left, " others say. > > > > The people of Fallujah are expecting the worst. They know the US > military will not allow itself to be humiliated in the manner of last week's > mutilation and hanging of four killed US mercenaries working for the private > security firm Blackwater. They know the US military will not allow the daily attacks > on convoys to go unpunished. A few hours before the horrific mutilations and > lynching, five US soldiers died when a powerful improvised explosive device > ripped their armored personnel carrier apar > > > > And the US military is edging for a fight. On Monday morning, US forces > closed off the Iraq-Amman highway which leads through Fallujah. Reporters > attempting to enter the city have told this writer that they were told by US > officers that the area surrounding Fallujah - and the city itself - is > off-limits to reporters, a restrictive zone, expected to be closed down for anywhere > between two to 10 days. > > > > Iraq analysts fear that the US is about to commit a war-crime by laying > siege to Fallujah and punishing its citizens by disallowing shipments of food > and water. > > > > With no independent reports from Fallujah, Iraq analysts warn the world > could be kept in the dark about scores of civilians likely to be caught in > military confrontation between US forces and Iraqi resistance. > > > > Coalition authorities have promised a swift and precise response to last > week's mutilations of four contract servicemen who were ambushed in central > Fallujah. However, in media reports filed before the city was cordoned off, > angry Iraqis claimed that it was US policy in the area that fueled their > anger. Among their complaints: > > > > Mounting of the foot over the neck of Iraqis - an affront in Iraqi > society > > > > The detaining of Iraqi women and teenage girls > > > > The house searches well into the dead of night, using shock bombs, > threats, and verbal abuse > > > > The returning of detained women, often barely clothed > > > > The killing of civilians by US forces with no assumption of > responsibility or guilt > > > > Iraq is entering a perilous phase as Iraqis begin to realize that the > freedom they were promised was a thinly-veiled farce aimed at extorting the > country of its mineral and oil wealth. There is open revolt in the south of Iraq > where the young cleric Muqtada Sadr has declared that negotiating and/or > exercising democratic tools like protests and demonstrations has not worked with > the Coalition. His Mahdi Army has seized several police stations throughout > the south of Iraq. US forces retaliated by > > > > As the first anniversary of the fall of Baghdad arrives, the fall of > Iraq into absolute anarchy seems imminent. > > > > A Year in Numbers > > http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2...ter/index.shtml < > http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2004/03/yearlater/index.shtml> > > > > For more information about Islam: > > http://www.geocities.com/um_mossab141/1.html > > > > Contact me at > > islamq_a@... > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > visiting htt > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 thats why we have a delete button or block sender. Bev. what the h what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? kaye wrote: > > http://www.geocities.com/mossab442/1.html > > Crimes in Iraq > > Will Fallujah Be Leveled? > > By Firas Al-Atraqchi > Freelance Columnist > 06/04/2004 > > US forces seal off Fallujah, Monday, April 5, in preparation for a major operation. > > The men of the restive city of Fallujah are not afraid. Speaking to reporters, they egg the US soldiers on. " Come into our city and we will show them what we are made of, " they say. " They have tanks and planes but are cowards, we will fight till there are none of us left, " others say. > > The people of Fallujah are expecting the worst. They know the US military will not allow itself to be humiliated in the manner of last week's mutilation and hanging of four killed US mercenaries working for the private security firm Blackwater. They know the US military will not allow the daily attacks on convoys to go unpunished. A few hours before the horrific mutilations and lynching, five US soldiers died when a powerful improvised explosive device ripped their armored personnel carrier apar > > And the US military is edging for a fight. On Monday morning, US forces closed off the Iraq-Amman highway which leads through Fallujah. Reporters attempting to enter the city have told this writer that they were told by US officers that the area surrounding Fallujah - and the city itself - is off-limits to reporters, a restrictive zone, expected to be closed down for anywhere between two to 10 days. > > Iraq analysts fear that the US is about to commit a war-crime by laying siege to Fallujah and punishing its citizens by disallowing shipments of food and water. > > With no independent reports from Fallujah, Iraq analysts warn the world could be kept in the dark about scores of civilians likely to be caught in military confrontation between US forces and Iraqi resistance. > > Coalition authorities have promised a swift and precise response to last week's mutilations of four contract servicemen who were ambushed in central Fallujah. However, in media reports filed before the city was cordoned off, angry Iraqis claimed that it was US policy in the area that fueled their anger. Among their complaints: > > Mounting of the foot over the neck of Iraqis - an affront in Iraqi society > > The detaining of Iraqi women and teenage girls > > The house searches well into the dead of night, using shock bombs, threats, and verbal abuse > > The returning of detained women, often barely clothed > > The killing of civilians by US forces with no assumption of responsibility or guilt > > Iraq is entering a perilous phase as Iraqis begin to realize that the freedom they were promised was a thinly-veiled farce aimed at extorting the country of its mineral and oil wealth. There is open revolt in the south of Iraq where the young cleric Muqtada Sadr has declared that negotiating and/or exercising democratic tools like protests and demonstrations has not worked with the Coalition. His Mahdi Army has seized several police stations throughout the south of Iraq. US forces retaliated by > > As the first anniversary of the fall of Baghdad arrives, the fall of Iraq into absolute anarchy seems imminent. > > A Year in Numbers > http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2...ter/index.shtml <http://www.islamonline.net/english/media/2004/03/yearlater/index.shtml> > > For more information about Islam: > http://www.geocities.com/um_mossab141/1.html > > Contact me at > islamq_a@... > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting htt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Hi Tom Maybe these messages are form Hell? There is no negotiating, reasoning, or as the Pope just said 'loving' them which will dissuade their purpose. They seem demon possessed to destroy us completely, and the only way they have given us to deal with their mindset is elimination. Sadly Said Rick > what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Rick, I would be demon possessed to rid my country of a foreign occupation of my country NOT AT WAR. These people have no option but to attack us. You would behave the very same way in the same conditions, wouldn't you? What would you do to protect your country? That's what they are doing. Anyone who understands soldiers or the military has to get some respect for what they are attempting to do. The problem is that this country is filled with people who talk a lot but who are unable to make the sacrifices that keep us free. Unless we're willing to wipe out Iraq, we need to immediately return home, now. Saddam is gone, there's no reason to be there. NONE. However, we've now destabilized the region completely and must absorb them into the US of A. That means that our future will be forever tied to theirs for reasons that we may never know, because our government is completely corrupt and unaacountable. Until we deal with our domestic enemies in our governement, we will never be free or safe. And neither will Iraq. Moe formerly Sgt, USMC > > what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 I agree. I get enough of this watching FOX and CNN....it is nice to come to a place where I can get some postive information. S. In a message dated 4/12/04 7:39:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bchriste@... writes: > go to another group to discuss this please. Bev. > Re: what the h > > > Rick, > I would be demon possessed to rid my country of a foreign occupation > of my country NOT AT WAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 go to another group to discuss this please. Bev. Re: what the h Rick, I would be demon possessed to rid my country of a foreign occupation of my country NOT AT WAR. These people have no option but to attack us. You would behave the very same way in the same conditions, wouldn't you? What would you do to protect your country? That's what they are doing. Anyone who understands soldiers or the military has to get some respect for what they are attempting to do. The problem is that this country is filled with people who talk a lot but who are unable to make the sacrifices that keep us free. Unless we're willing to wipe out Iraq, we need to immediately return home, now. Saddam is gone, there's no reason to be there. NONE. However, we've now destabilized the region completely and must absorb them into the US of A. That means that our future will be forever tied to theirs for reasons that we may never know, because our government is completely corrupt and unaacountable. Until we deal with our domestic enemies in our governement, we will never be free or safe. And neither will Iraq. Moe formerly Sgt, USMC > > what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Although these emails about Iraq are off subject - there is a link here - that of cultural paradigms. (incidentally I am not the person sending them) When Nixon 'declared war' on Cancer in 1971 (21 billion dollars ago) it was very much within the same paradigm that our countries' leaders have declared war on terrorism. We think we can just 'take out' Saddam or Osama like a cancer, without any sensitivity to the systems that underlie the complex and unique conditions that have produced these tyrannical parasites. It is this partly this arrogance that has created such a mess in the middle east and similarly with many cancer treatments that are the medical equivalent of cracking a nut with a sledgehammer. So although this is slightly 'off subject' the questions of 'how do we control terrorism' and 'how do we control cancer' are linked in that it needs a cultural paradigm shift that many people are presently making. I see the paradigms like this: Paradigm 1: The mechanistic view: This can be traced back to Descartes and other scientists such as Sir Isaac Newton. The universe is a vast machine and we are all cogs, all with our part to play in its function. The healthy body is a well made clock and if it goes wrong we simply take it apart and tinker with the insides until it goes again. If it breaks it doesn't really matter because there are plenty more where that came from. Nothing exists unless it has been proven through logical and reductionist methods. cancer: something had gone wrong with this body, it has a lump. Cut it out and throw the lump away. Paradigm 2: The anthropomorphic view. This paradigm is central to the philosophy of Darwinism and others who helped set humans as 'apart and above', or at the head of other life forms. Humanity is the supposed crown of creation, created to lord it over every other creature. The planet is ours to dominate and exploit to our own demands. We must conquer every mountain and battle against disease (and terrorism). We are the most evolved and dominant species in a process of natural selection, the head of the food chain. We exist for no purpose and have just evolved through sheer luck. In this world our media create pigs and fish that can talk human. Animals are anthropomorphised through culture to have the same needs, desires and dreams as humans. The animals, forests, oceans and environment around us exist purely for our convenience. This paradigm is human self-centred and exploitative to everything including ourselves. cancer: something has gone wrong with this body, it has grown an enemy inside it. I will root it out and battle with it. Paradigm 3: The Gaian view (the emerging paradigm) This paradigm started with Einstein and the science of energy. Its inception combines an age when we saw the first images of the Earth as a whole entity from space. Lovelock and his search for life on Mars is a central figure in its development through his identification of the Gaia Hypothesis regarding Earth. This planet we inhabit is a self-balancing, homeostatic system similar to our own as single biological entities. It maintains the optimum conditions for life (often despite our best efforts to pollute it). Our bodies are a miracle of biology, constantly flexible and adaptive but easy to harm. Anything we do to it or each other, we do to ourselves as we are part of the same 'web' or 'circle' of life. We exist for a purpose but do not yet know what it is. We are part of an evolving cycle of life, a happening miracle. cancer: something has gone wrong with this body, it is trying to tell me something. I will listen to it and get help to support it and understand why it has happened and what I need to learn and do to get better. So to me part of the route to new cancer cures is based in this paradigm shift to a new model of seeing ourselves. But how do we get there? I wish I knew - I seem to be stuck with creating 'truth and beauty' - it doesn't seem to be enough as this 'outlook' is so easily marginalised! simonthescribe Re: what the h Rick, I would be demon possessed to rid my country of a foreign occupation of my country NOT AT WAR. These people have no option but to attack us. You would behave the very same way in the same conditions, wouldn't you? What would you do to protect your country? That's what they are doing. Anyone who understands soldiers or the military has to get some respect for what they are attempting to do. The problem is that this country is filled with people who talk a lot but who are unable to make the sacrifices that keep us free. Unless we're willing to wipe out Iraq, we need to immediately return home, now. Saddam is gone, there's no reason to be there. NONE. However, we've now destabilized the region completely and must absorb them into the US of A. That means that our future will be forever tied to theirs for reasons that we may never know, because our government is completely corrupt and unaacountable. Until we deal with our domestic enemies in our governement, we will never be free or safe. And neither will Iraq. Moe formerly Sgt, USMC > > what the hell does this have to do with cancer?????????? > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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