Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Women have been drinking two glasses of wine in Italy, France and other countries for ages! THAT is no basis for breast cancer! Most breast cancer seems to have appeared in the post world war II years in Western countries where an ENORMOUS amount of milk products were consumed!! This has been publicized very often! The breast cancer rates in Northern Europe, in very white places like Scandinavia zoomed in the post war years, so it is no coincidence perhaps about Marin County! Breast cancer is an accumulation of fat (even some of these currently popular wire underbras, worn to excess, could provoke that!!). Breast feeding seems to counter against developing breast cancer! Clearly taking hormones, and birth control, and especially among women who never have children, could provoke breast cancer. But two glasses of wine per day? GIVE ME A BREAK!! That too much alcohol is damaging, has been known for centuries. Why do such studies ignore certain, pertinent facts, indeed neglect to EVEN include them? Why, for example, when speaking of lung cancer, does no one say that American indians have been smoking for centuries and did not die of lung cancer? or that the French, who still smoke a lot, have a lower lung cancer rate than in the US, but are rapidly catching up, as lifestyles turn more industrial, including air conditioning, processed and fast food, overweight, begin to become more prevalent? It is indeed possible that in some cases and incidences of certain diseases, it is an accumulation and or the COMBINATION of environmental, and lifestyle factors that can help tendencies to thrive. This is why all this gets SO tiring!! Carole Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 In a message dated 2/12/04 2:31:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, Carolean06@... writes: > > Most breast cancer seems to have appeared in the post world war II years in > Western countries where an ENORMOUS amount of milk products were consumed!! There are european countries where huge amounts of milk and cheese are ingested. The Fench are known for their magnificant cheeses. This has been going on for centuries. What I had read recently is that it is the process of homogenizing that makes the milk a culprit in cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Explanations such as this often have some sort of basis in fact, but they are sadly amusing because of their shallowness. I would suggest that a main fault here is the treatment of alcohol consumption as an independent variable. Could not a higher alcohol consumption be associated with higher stress or depression in this community? (Stress may double the risk of breast cancer: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=446731 ) Would not alcohol consumption covary with use of tranquilizers? (see below) Could it be that these ladies choose the more idiotic forms of alternative medicine -- 70% of breast cancer patients do go alternative: http://dailynews./h/nm/20000127/hl/ala_1.html Could it simply be the ubiquitous birth control pills: (article below) Could it be a function of obesity? (article below) There are so many other factors, e.g., low dietary cysteine/cystine, working under fluorescent lights, mammograms, too many diagnostic CT scans with 100-250 times the CXR radiation, who knows maybe those too tight 's Secret bras (I've heard complaints), or too much fog (see below). (articles below) *************************************** Sunshine link to lower cancer rate Scientists have discovered sunnier climes are linked to lower deaths from common cancers. Researchers looked at death certificates across 24 US states and found sunlight is associated with a reduced risk of breast and colon cancer. The 11-year study, published in the journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, focuses on the likelihood of dying from breast, ovarian, colon, prostate and skin cancer, compared with different levels of exposure to the sun. As expected, the authors, including Dr Michal Freedman of the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, found there are higher numbers of deaths from skin cancer in the sunnier areas. However, death from the other four cancers was significantly lower among people living in very sunny climates. Working outdoors in a very sunny environment was also associated with fewer deaths from breast and colon cancer. The geographical regions of greatest sunlight shows the strongest relationship. This finding was independent of the amount of physical activity required for the job. Laboratory experiments have previously shown that vitamin D, generated by exposure to sunlight, appears to slow down the speed of cancer cell division, including breast and colon cancer cells. But scientists remain unsure about the exact mechanisms behind any potentially protective effect. Dr Freedman says much remains to be explored about the biology of sunlight and cancer but that the findings warrants additional study on the effects of sun on cancer. Story filed: 00:07 Thursday 4th April 2002 ****************** Obesity and Breast Cancer The international study comparing obese women to women of normal weight confirms what doctors have long suspected - that fat cells release the hormone into the blood, allowing it to help turn normal cells cancerous. " There was clear hypothesis that the mechanism for the effect of obesity might be high blood estrogen levels, but no one has been able to test that directly, " said Dr. Tim Key of the Cancer Research U.K. Epidemiology Unit at Britain's Oxford University. The researchers, who report their findings in this week's issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, said they are good news - giving women a way to reduce their risk of breast cancer. " Women's risk is affected by many fixed factors - a family history of the disease, the number of children they have, the age they have their children, when they start their periods and when they stop, " Key said. " But obesity is something that women have a level of control over. Put simply, maintaining a healthy weight avoids extra breast cancer risk for these women. " Key and colleagues in Britain, Italy, Japan and the United States studied eight different groups of women who were past menopause - when the risk of breast cancer rises dramatically. None of the women had cancer and none were taking hormone replacement therapy when their blood samples were first taken. The researchers then watched the women for between two and 12 years to see which ones developed breast cancer. MORE WEIGHT, MORE CANCER During the study, 624 women developed breast cancer. Hormones in their blood were compared with the hormones from 1,640 cancer-free women of the same age. The more the women weighed, the higher their risk of cancer. And the more the women weighed, the higher their levels of a form of estrogen called estradiol. A woman who was obese, with a body mass index of 30 or more, had an 18 percent higher chance of developing breast cancer than a woman with a BMI of 25 - just on the border of being overweight. THE INTERNATIONAL STUDY comparing obese women to women of normal weight confirms what doctors have long suspected - that fat cells release the hormone into the blood, allowing it to help turn normal cells cancerous. " There was clear hypothesis that the mechanism for the effect of obesity might be high blood estrogen levels, but no one has been able to test that directly, " said Dr. Tim Key of the Cancer Research U.K. Epidemiology Unit at Britain's Oxford University. The researchers, who report their findings in this week's issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, said they are good news - giving women a way to reduce their risk of breast cancer. " Women's risk is affected by many fixed factors - a family history of the disease, the number of children they have, the age they have their children, when they start their periods and when they stop, " Key said. " But obesity is something that women have a level of control over. Put simply, maintaining a healthy weight avoids extra breast cancer risk for these women. " Key and colleagues in Britain, Italy, Japan and the United States studied eight different groups of women who were past menopause - when the risk of breast cancer rises dramatically. None of the women had cancer and none were taking hormone replacement therapy when their blood samples were first taken. The researchers then watched the women for between two and 12 years to see which ones developed breast cancer. MORE WEIGHT, MORE CANCER During the study, 624 women developed breast cancer. Hormones in their blood were compared with the hormones from 1,640 cancer-free women of the same age. The more the women weighed, the higher their risk of cancer. And the more the women weighed, the higher their levels of a form of estrogen called estradiol. A woman who was obese, with a body mass index of 30 or more, had an 18 percent higher chance of developing breast cancer than a woman with a BMI of 25 - just on the border of being overweight. *************** Birth Control Pills Found To Raise Breast Cancer Risk 3-23-02 BARCELONA, Spain (Reuters) - Using the birth control pill can increase a woman's risk of developing breast cancer, particularly if is she is still taking it after the age of 45, scientists said on Saturday. New research presented at the Third European Breast Cancer Conference confirms the results of earlier, smaller studies which have shown the chance of getting the disease rises by about 26 percent in women who have used oral contraceptives compared to those who have not. For women aged 45 and over the risk is doubled. " It is a doubling in risk, " Dr. Merethe Kumle, of Community Medicine in Tromso, Norway told the conference. " It is clear that oral contraceptives increase a woman's risk of developing breast cancer, particularly when they are used in the later period of reproductive life, " she added. Using data from a large lifestyle and health study, Kumle and her team studied information on 103,027 women who were questioned about their lifestyle, health and use of the pill in 1991/1992. They followed the medical history of the women to December 1999 and found 1,008 cases of the disease. Most of the women had taken newer versions of the pill which contain lower doses of hormones. " I think the results from this study of Norwegian and Swedish women are very interesting and confirm results from earlier studies of oral contraceptive use, " Kumle said. Early pregnancy, late menopause, postponing childbirth or not having children are risk factors for breast cancer which affects about one million women worldwide each year. Studies have also shown that using the pill and hormone replacement therapy (HRT) can increase the risk of the disease, although the risk decreases after women stop taking the drugs. Kumle stressed that the risk for younger women, under the age of 40, is very low. Most breast cancer is diagnosed in women 50 years and older. " We found a slightly increased risk of breast cancer among users of the pill, but it is important to underline that young women using the pill are not playing hazard with their health. As contraception, the pill should still be the drug of choice for young women, " she added. Copyright © 2002 Reuters Limited. ***************** The Causes Of Breast Cancer By Montague 's Environment And Health News #723 http://www.rachel.org/home_eng.htm 5-20-1 WHAT CAUSES BREAST CANCER? Breast cancer kills 46,000 women in the U.S. each year. On average, each of these women has her life cut short by 20 years, for a total loss of about a million person-years of productive life each year. Of course this huge cost to society is heaped on even greater burdens, the personal anguish and suffering, the motherless children, the shattered families. The medical establishment dominated by male doctors pretends that the breast cancer epidemic will one day be reversed by some miracle cure, which we have now been promised for 50 years. Until that miracle arrives, we are told, there is nothing to be done except slice off women's breasts, pump their bodies full of toxic chemicals to kill cancer cells, burn them with radiation, and bury our dead. Meanwhile, the normal public health approach primary prevention languishes without mention and without funding. We know what causes the vast majority of cancers: exposure to carcinogens. What would a normal public health approach entail? Reduce the burden of cancer by reducing our exposure to carcinogens. One key idea has defined public health for more than 100 years: PREVENTION. But with cancer, everything is different. In the case of cancer, prevention has been banished from polite discussion. Now a new, fully-documented book[1], by physician Janette D. Sherman, http://www.lifesdelicatebalance.com/ , poses a fundamental challenge to all the doctors and researchers and health bureaucrats who have turned their backs on cancer prevention: " If cancers are not caused by chemicals, endocrine-disrupting chemicals, and ionizing radiation, what are the causes? How else can one explain the doubling, since 1940, of a woman's likelihood of developing breast cancer, increasing in tandem with prostate and childhood cancers?, " Dr. Sherman asks.(pg. x) And if exposures are the problem, then ending exposures is the solution: " Actual prevention means eliminating factors that cause cancer in the first place. " (pg. 31) Dr. Sherman is a practicing physician who has treated 8000 patients over 30 years. Unlike most physicians, she possesses an extensive knowledge of chemistry. Furthermore, she has become a historian by examining a large body of medical and public health literature dating back to the 19th century. It is this unique combination -- of historical view, knowledge of chemistry, deep personal experience as a physician, and an ethical clarity that PRIMARY PREVENTION is the proper policy -- that makes this book important and compelling. The book begins with two chapters emphasizing the similarities among all living things that are made up of cells including humans, animals and plants. Cells in every creature can go awry and start to grow uncontrollably, a definition of cancer. Because all cell-based creatures are so similar, what we learn from one can often tell us something useful about another. For example, when we learn from the sonian Institution that sharks get cancer from swimming in waters contaminated with industrial chemicals, we learn (or SHOULD learn) something useful about our own vulnerability to exotic chemicals.(pg. 9) Turning to breast cancer, Dr. Sherman lists the known " risk factors " the common characteristics shared by many women who get breast cancer: early menarche (age at which menstruation begins); late menopause (age at which menstruation ends); late childbirth and the birth of few or no children; no experience breast-feeding; obesity; high fat diet; being tall; having cancer of the ovaries or uterus; use of oral contraceptives; excessive use of alcohol. " What is the message running through all of these 'risks?' " Dr. Sherman asks. " Hormones, hormones, and hormones. Hormones of the wrong kind, hormones too soon in a girl's life, hormones for too many years in a woman's life, too many chemicals with hormonal action, and too great a total hormonal load. " (pg. 20) Dr. Sherman then turns her focus to the one fully-established cause of breast (and other) cancers: ionizing radiation, from x-rays, and from nuclear power plant emissions and the radioactive fallout from A-bomb tests. These, then, are the environmental factors that give rise to breast cancer: exposures to cancer-causing chemicals, to hormonally-active chemicals, and to ionizing radiation in air, food and water. How do we know the environment air, food, water and ionizing radiation plays an important role in causing breast cancer? Because when Asian women move from their homelands to the U.S., their breast cancer rate soars. There is something in the environment of the U.S. (and other western industrial countries) causing an epidemic of this hormone-related disease. The medical research establishment likes to call it " lifestyle factors " but it's really environment. Air, food, water, ionizing radiation. With this basic information in hand, Dr. Sherman then describes historically and today the exposure of women in the U.S. to a flood of carcinogenic and hormonally active chemicals, plus ionizing radiation. Take common pharmaceutical products, for example. Canadian researchers have demonstrated enhanced cancer growth in mice given daily HUMAN-EQUIVALENT doses of three commonly-used antihistamines, which are sold under the trade names Claritin, Histamil and Atarax.(pg. 21) Two years earlier the same researchers had reported breast cancer promotion in rodents fed clinically-relevant doses of antidepressant drugs, which are marketed as Elavil and Prozac.(pg. 21) Millions of women in the U.S. are taking these drugs today. At least 5 million women in the U.S. are currently taking Premarin the most often-prescribed form of estrogen (female sex hormone), to ease the transition through menopause.(pg. 156) This is called " hormone replacement therapy " and it is routine, recommended medical practice in the U.S. A review of 51 studies of women taking hormone replacement therapy showed that those who never took hormones had a breast cancer rate ranging from 18 to 63 per 1000 women. Those who took hormones for five years showed an excess of 2 breast cancers per 1000 women; after 10 years of hormone therapy the excess breast cancer rate rose to 6 per 1000. The danger largely disappears 5 years after discontinuing use. Hormones are big business. Despite evidence that synthetic hormones caused cancer in rodents and rabbits, American drug companies began selling synthetic hormones in 1934 in cosmetics, drugs, food additives, and animal feed. The best-known is DES (diethylstilbestrol) but there were and still are many others. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) in 1938 published a study showing that DES caused breast cancer in rodents. Three years later, in 1941, NCI published a second study confirming that DES caused breast cancer in rodents. That year the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved DES for commercial use in women.(pg. 91) DES is 400 times as potent as natural estrogen and can be made for pennies per pill. It was therefore phenomenally profitable and researchers aggressively sought new uses. DES soon was being used to prevent miscarriages, as a " morning after " pill to prevent pregnancies, and as a breast-enlargement cream. It wasn't long before researchers discovered that they could make chickens, cows and pigs grow faster if they fed them hormones, and a huge new market for hormones opened up. As early as 1947, a hormonal effect was reported among U.S. women who ate chicken treated with growth hormones. (Chapter 7, note 55.) Between 1954 and 1973 three quarters of all beef cattle slaughtered in the U.S. grew fat on DES. In 1971, human cancer from DES exposure was confirmed and in 1973 DES was banned from meat, so other growth hormones were substituted. Most recently, of course, the U.S. FDA has allowed the U.S. milk supply to be modified to increase the levels of a growth hormone (called IGF-1) known to stimulate growth of breast cells in women. (pg. 101) Still today most U.S. beef, chickens and pigs are intentionally contaminated with growth hormones which is why Europeans refuse to allow the import of U.S. beef. European scientists are asking the same question that Dr. Sherman raises: " [H] ormones are administered to meat animals to promote growth and weight gain. Why should humans expect to not respond similarly to such chemical stimuli? " (pgs. 16-17) Then of course there are dozens probably, in fact hundreds of household chemicals and industrial byproducts that are hormonally active: pesticides, cleansers, solvents, plasticizers, surfactants, dyes, cosmetics, PCBs, dioxins, and so forth, that interfere with, or mimic, naturally-occurring hormones. We are awash in these, at low levels, from conception until death. How many growth-stimulating and cancer-promoting hormones can we ingest or absorb through our lungs and skin before we feel the effects? No one in authority is asking that crucial question, but Janette Sherman is asking it, pointedly, and armed to the teeth with scientific evidence. Then there is radioactivity. In 1984, a study of Mormon families in Utah downwind from the nuclear tests in Nevada reported elevated numbers of breast cancers.(pg. 65) Girls who survived the bombing of Hiroshima are now dying in excessive numbers from breast cancer. Dr. Gofman has reviewed 22 separate studies confirming unequivocally that exposure to ionizing radiation causes breast cancer. (See REHN #693.) Janette Sherman does a good job of summarizing ecological studies showing that women living near nuclear power plants suffer from elevated numbers of breast cancers. These studies, by their nature, are suggestive and not conclusive. but there is ample reason to believe that all nuclear power plants leak radioactivity routinely into local air and water and that any exposure to ionizing radiation increases a woman's danger of breast cancer. The only way to PREVENT this problem is to end nuclear power permanently. Why has the U.S. turned its back on the preventive approach to cancer? Dr. Sherman returns to this question throughout her book. For example, in a devastating chapter on Tamoxifen (a known cancer-causing chemical now approved by U.S. FDA for use in women), she asks, " Why is our primary well-funded National Cancer Institute not devoting its efforts to primary prevention? Has breast cancer, like so many aspects of our culture, become just another business opportunity? " (pg. 149) In the end, Dr. Sherman reaches a conclusion about that question: " There is a massing, in a few hands, of the control of production, distribution and use of pharmaceutical drugs and appliances; control of the sale and use of medical and laboratory tests; the consolidation and control of hospitals, nursing homes, and home care providers. We are no longer people who become sick. We have become markets. Is it any wonder that prevention receives so little attention? Cancer is a big and successful business! " (pg. 207) And, finally: " Reflecting on the purpose of the corporation to sell products and services and maximize profits, it becomes apparent that prevention cannot be in the interest of the bottom line. What a sad and bitter realization, " she concludes.(pg. 228) Despite this sad and bitter conclusion, this is a powerful upbeat book about what citizens can and must do to end the epidemic of cancer that is sweeping the western world. If the truth shall set us free, this book is an important part of our collective liberation, freeing us from the lies and deceptions, the false promises of cancer cures always " just around the corner. " Cancer is caused by exposure to carcinogens. The way to solve the cancer problem is to prevent exposures. This means we must end nuclear power, and demand clean food, water and air. Janette Sherman's contribution has been to give us a wealth of powerful evidence on which to act. Now it is up to us. -- Montague [1] Janette D. Sherman, LIFE'S DELICATE BALANCE; THE CAUSES AND PREVENTION OF BREAST CANCER (New York and London: and Francis, 2000). ISBN 1-56032-870-3. http://www.lifesdelicatebalance.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Isnt there a country that is almost cancer free Hunzas. Perhaps we need to study their diet Re: Breast Cancer stats in Marin County explained Women have been drinking two glasses of wine in Italy, France and other countries for ages! THAT is no basis for breast cancer! Most breast cancer seems to have appeared in the post world war II years in Western countries where an ENORMOUS amount of milk products were consumed!! This has been publicized very often! The breast cancer rates in Northern Europe, in very white places like Scandinavia zoomed in the post war years, so it is no coincidence perhaps about Marin County! Breast cancer is an accumulation of fat (even some of these currently popular wire underbras, worn to excess, could provoke that!!). Breast feeding seems to counter against developing breast cancer! Clearly taking hormones, and birth control, and especially among women who never have children, could provoke breast cancer. But two glasses of wine per day? GIVE ME A BREAK!! That too much alcohol is damaging, has been known for centuries. Why do such studies ignore certain, pertinent facts, indeed neglect to EVEN include them? Why, for example, when speaking of lung cancer, does no one say that American indians have been smoking for centuries and did not die of lung cancer? or that the French, who still smoke a lot, have a lower lung cancer rate than in the US, but are rapidly catching up, as lifestyles turn more industrial, including air conditioning, processed and fast food, overweight, begin to become more prevalent? It is indeed possible that in some cases and incidences of certain diseases, it is an accumulation and or the COMBINATION of environmental, and lifestyle factors that can help tendencies to thrive. This is why all this gets SO tiring!! Carole Anne Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I believe this has been done already. Their diet is rich in B17 due to the apricot seeds they eat. Read 's book, World Without Cancer. Bob Re: Breast Cancer stats in Marin County explained > > Women have been drinking two glasses of wine in Italy, France and other > countries for ages! THAT is no basis for breast cancer! > > Most breast cancer seems to have appeared in the post world war II years in > Western countries where an ENORMOUS amount of milk products were consumed!! > This has been publicized very often! The breast cancer rates in Northern > Europe, in very white places like Scandinavia zoomed in the post war years, > so it is no coincidence perhaps about Marin County! Breast cancer is an > accumulation of fat (even some of these currently popular wire underbras, > worn to excess, could provoke that!!). Breast feeding seems to counter > against developing breast cancer! > > Clearly taking hormones, and birth control, and especially among women who > never have children, could provoke breast cancer. But two glasses of wine > per day? GIVE ME A BREAK!! > That too much alcohol is damaging, has been known for centuries. > > Why do such studies ignore certain, pertinent facts, indeed neglect to EVEN > include them? > > Why, for example, when speaking of lung cancer, does no one say that > American indians have been smoking for centuries and did not die of lung > cancer? or that the French, who still smoke a lot, have a lower lung cancer > rate than in the US, but are rapidly catching up, as lifestyles turn more > industrial, including air conditioning, processed and fast food, overweight, > begin to become more prevalent? It is indeed possible that in some cases > and incidences of certain diseases, it is an accumulation and or the > COMBINATION of environmental, and lifestyle factors that can help tendencies > to thrive. > > This is why all this gets SO tiring!! Carole Anne > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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