Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 In a message dated 2/17/04 9:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.atkins@... writes: > Sometimes i just feel like running away and following my gut > If this was the last week of your life, what would you do? This is your life..it was a gift that was given to you and your decision as to what to do with it. Everyone is afraid and desperate and they don't know who to believe or what to do...so they have decided that your doctors are right. What do you think? Really? Deep down inside? Are you afraid of hurting them? Of offending them? What is the dynamic that is going on? If you feel like running away..well...maybe you should do that and go to a peaceful place to think and get centered. I am not talking about for a great length of time but for whatever time it takes to find out what you want for yourself and the time that you might have left. What do you think you should do about all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 In a message dated 2/17/04 9:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.atkins@... writes: > Deep down i really dont want to go through chemo again Jim..where is big pond? If you could go anywhere for awhile, where would it be? Where do you think you can go to be quiet inside, peaceful and get in touch with yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 In a message dated 2/17/04 10:51:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.atkins@... writes: > I think i need to get them all together and talk about how i feel and what > i > really feel i should do,tell them about my fear of treatment and why i would > like to do things my way That sounds like a good plan Jim. Ask them for their support even if they don't agree with your plan. Ask them not to try to talk you into or out of anything but to commit themselves to support you in whatever you choose to do. Make each one individually promise, one by one, to this agreement so that each is a witness to this. It is so important that you gain their support if possible so that you don't have an extra burden on your shoulders. You need all your energy to face the road ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 In a message dated 2/17/04 11:20:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.atkins@... writes: > about 12 mnths ago she told me in a letter that a > chinese herbalist would be a great help to me with my illness, maybe she was > right Jim...I hope that you can find him soon...good luck in your journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Hi , Deep down i really dont want to go through chemo again its just that there is so much pressure from friends and family to take this path, even though they wittnessed what it did to me before,even my own partner is getting angry with me for not starting treatment sooner.Its just so hard.My brother tries to rationalise that,yes, chemo NEARLY killed you but you are still here.Sometimes i just feel like running away and following my gut feeling,Im not scared of dieing shelly,sometimes i have even prayed for it,why do family etc put all this pressure on us, its like if i dont follow their wishes im letting them down somehow or giving up. Jim Atkins. Re: Re: results shock. > In a message dated 2/17/04 10:09:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > pt50@... writes: > > > > Seek out an alternative healthcare practitioner who can > > help you through this. You know the results of chemo and I can't > > believe you want to go down that path again. > > > > All my prayers for you and I hope that you find what will work in your case. > We are all here rooting for you and offering whatever support we can. > Hugs, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 , i think my biggest fear is feeling that i have let them down ,by not going ahead with treatment i think that they will feel that i have given up. I think i need to get them all together and talk about how i feel and what i really feel i should do,tell them about my fear of treatment and why i would like to do things my way.What makes it harder for the family is that we lost our mother last year to cancer and it was a long and hard death,my sister nursed her and we all saw her every day.it was very hard.I am pretty sure they will respect my wishes, im just not sure that they will agree.Jim. Re: Re: results shock. > In a message dated 2/17/04 9:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jim.atkins@... writes: > > > > Sometimes i just feel like running away and following my gut > > > > If this was the last week of your life, what would you do? > This is your life..it was a gift that was given to you and your decision as > to what to do with it. Everyone is afraid and desperate and they don't know > who to believe or what to do...so they have decided that your doctors are right. > What do you think? Really? Deep down inside? > Are you afraid of hurting them? Of offending them? What is the dynamic that > is going on? If you feel like running away..well...maybe you should do that > and go to a peaceful place to think and get centered. I am not talking about > for a great length of time but for whatever time it takes to find out what you > want for yourself and the time that you might have left. > What do you think you should do about all this? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Dear Pat,thankyou for your support. I live in Darwin, Australia,Which is way up in the tropical north of the country, There is a large, long standing chinese community here [from the early goldmining and pearl farming days] so we have more than a few herbalists etc here.Its really strange, my younger sister is somewhat of a modern fortune teller [she has vivid dreams, preminitions etc] anyway,about 12 mnths ago she told me in a letter that a chinese herbalist would be a great help to me with my illness, maybe she was right. Regards jim. Re: results shock. > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/15/04 12:51:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > > jim.atkins@b... writes: > > > > > > > > > > .My onco > > > > advises that the lymphoma is restaged as advanced, very > aggressive,he > > says > > > > that without immediate chemo etc my life expectancy is not > good.I > > > > > > Have you asked him what your chances are with chemo? Also...have > you > > > explored the alternative low dose chemo? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 I agree Pat yes Jim try go by what your body sais if you are doing better now then before then who nos if the cancer is dead or alive perhaps its having a last fight but you will win. We are all here to keep you going lea Re: results shock. Dear Jim, You have documented the effects of Dr. Budwig's protocol. Have your onocologist review it. Yes, I know, he'll put up a big stink about it but not even he can deny the positive physical changes you have gone through in spite of the markers. Maybe your body is going through a kill phase of the cancer cells which would temporarily raise the markers? Even your own family cannot deny what the diet has done for you. Don't give up! And I would definitely look up that herbalist. Keeping you in my prayers, Pat > > > Hi , My first choice when told about my reoccurance and > > treatment was > > > to have the mabthera as i was told that the side effects were not > > as bad as > > > others eg, chop etc.Now my onco says that Mabthera will probably > > not work > > > and that my most realistic choice is the chop. The reason i have > > put off > > > treatment for so long is that i am scared that i wont make it > > through > > > another round of chemo, i have bad liver damage allready am > > allergic to a > > > lot of the anti neasea drugs eg,Maxalon, stemital. i went into > > treatment > > > last time at 10 and a half stone and came out just under 7,my dad > > had to > > > carry me out of the hospital. The onco is not sure or is not saying > > what my > > > chances are if i go ahead with the chop etc.Regards,Jim Atkins. > > > Re: results shock. > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/15/04 12:51:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > > > jim.atkins@b... writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > .My onco > > > > > advises that the lymphoma is restaged as advanced, very > > aggressive,he > > > says > > > > > that without immediate chemo etc my life expectancy is not > > good.I > > > > > > > > Have you asked him what your chances are with chemo? Also...have > > you > > > > explored the alternative low dose chemo? > > > > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 In a message dated 2/18/04 4:25:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, aleathak@... writes: > Jim > We live in a beautiful place here in WA by the ocean you could come and stay > with me and the kids if you wanted and take a look at this Vit C therapy. I > have been seeing this great naturpath I think there is another name for him > as he is Indian however people have had great results seeing him and he > charges only $25 a visit, doesn't expect you to buy or return to him. We > could try and kick this cancer out. I just want to help > Lea > Lea...you are a true angel to make such a loving offer. Bless you a thousand times! Jim...this sounds like a great offer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hi , yes Lea is an angel, i have been in constant contact with her for a long time now, she originally comes from the same town as me,i know her mother as well. I may take her up on her offer but i have to sort things out with my family first and also make sure my dad is settled back in at home before i make any definate decisions. Jim. Re: Re: results shock. > In a message dated 2/18/04 4:25:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, > aleathak@... writes: > > > > Jim > > We live in a beautiful place here in WA by the ocean you could come and stay > > with me and the kids if you wanted and take a look at this Vit C therapy. I > > have been seeing this great naturpath I think there is another name for him > > as he is Indian however people have had great results seeing him and he > > charges only $25 a visit, doesn't expect you to buy or return to him. We > > could try and kick this cancer out. I just want to help > > Lea > > > > Lea...you are a true angel to make such a loving offer. Bless you a thousand > times! > Jim...this sounds like a great offer! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Dear Lea, You are so unbelievably kind, i may take you up on your offer but i need to have a meeting/talk with my family, [im heading back down soon if im able] and make sure dad is settled in before i make any decisions, i definatly need to take some time out to work out what i believe is best for me. Thank you so much, jim. Re: Re: results shock. > > In a message dated 2/17/04 9:48:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jim.atkins@... writes: > > > > Sometimes i just feel like running away and following my gut > > > > If this was the last week of your life, what would you do? > This is your life..it was a gift that was given to you and your decision as > to what to do with it. Everyone is afraid and desperate and they don't know > > who to believe or what to do...so they have decided that your doctors are > right. > What do you think? Really? Deep down inside? > Are you afraid of hurting them? Of offending them? What is the dynamic that > > is going on? If you feel like running away..well...maybe you should do that > > and go to a peaceful place to think and get centered. I am not talking about > > for a great length of time but for whatever time it takes to find out what > you > want for yourself and the time that you might have left. > What do you think you should do about all this? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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