Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Good - I hope someone can go after him and stop him This has gone far enough Keep us posted At 06:55 PM 05/07/2002 -0000, you wrote: >Sheri, >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to do >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened by >this idiot. > >Diane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Diane, I hope you can do something. Is that the reason the eyes are covered? Doesn't this guy have anything better to do with this time? > >Sheri, > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to do > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened by > >this idiot. > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 regarding chickenpox and remedies- i was told by a mother with older children that lavender and tea tree oil really minimize the itching and make the children more comfortable! this may antidote homeopathic medicines, but for those not using them, the essential oils really help! stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Yes, Diane, I sure hope you go after this creep. I'm all for First Amendment rights and all that good stuff, but this guy is over the top. Kim Re: Ratbag > Diane, I hope you can do something. Is that the reason the eyes are > covered? Doesn't this guy have anything better to do with this time? > > > > > > >Sheri, > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to > do > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened > by > > >this idiot. > > > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 OMG!!! I wish you alot of luck!!! seriously!! christina in canada > Sheri, > Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to do > something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened by > this idiot. > > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I don't understand about the the eyes being covered???? Joanna hjfasufi <Hjfasufi@...> wrote: Diane, I hope you can do something. Is that the reason the eyes are covered? Doesn't this guy have anything better to do with this time? > >Sheri, > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to do > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened by > >this idiot. > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 He has put a black bar across the eyes so they won't be recongized I guess -like they do in some medical textbooks At 03:56 PM 05/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > I don't understand about the the eyes being covered???? >Joanna > hjfasufi <Hjfasufi@...> wrote: Diane, I hope you can do something. Is that the reason the eyes are >covered? Doesn't this guy have anything better to do with this time? > > > > >> Good - I hope someone can go after him and stop him >> This has gone far enough >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I would imagine that if he's portraying the children as being " abused " when this is not the case, he could be sued for libel - he must therefore assure their anonymity. Just a guess... Sue > Re: Re: Ratbag > > > He has put a black bar across the eyes so they won't be recongized I guess > -like they do in some medical textbooks > > At 03:56 PM 05/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > > I don't understand about the the eyes being covered???? > >Joanna > > hjfasufi <Hjfasufi@...> wrote: Diane, I hope you can do something. > Is that the reason the eyes are > >covered? Doesn't this guy have anything better to do with this time? > > > > > > > > > >> Good - I hope someone can go after him and stop him > >> This has gone far enough > >> > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account > vaccineinfo@... > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL > ADVICE. THE > DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. > Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin > International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers > Education, Homeopathic Education > CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I looked at it and this kind of crap infuriates me. His little question about what's to stop a 4 yo from scratching a pustule under the eye. Well, who's to say the child wouldn't have still contracted Cp with the vax and gotten one right there? It's so one-sided! And I like to think that altho I am TOTALLY against vaxxes I realize most of the people I know and love are going to do this so I have compromised(and toned down my passion). I have compromised by buying them Cave's book " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations " or something like that. So, since they are going to vax, they can at least try to do it safer and with the correct supplemantation. And I pray for the day when vaxxes are safer or outlawed! Still, nothing beats natural immunity. And who knows? Maybe realize they don't need all or any. Of course, I still send info from my point of view. This is a compromise I can live with as I need friends. I have considered only encouraging friendships with persons of the same life style but I would be VERY lonely. So I do my best to be an example and try to send any requested info. Not that anyone has tried anything I found as alternatives. I'll keep on trying. Anyhow, I also wanted to add that my last 2 went thru CP without any suppression(except daddy's administrtion of tylenol for headache which earned him a severe tongue-lashing from me). No calamine,benedryl,etc. I rubbed them thru their clothes with my fingertips and gave extra cuddling,Vit C,propolis. The 2 yo was worse on her scalp but the 4 yo would have made an excellent CP poster child! Almost all sores are faded. They barely ran a fever. A lady asked me today if I'd had them vaccinated and I said we don't vaccinate...ever...for anything. She fears her sons vax won't immune him to CP. I saod my sister;s son was vaxxed and got them. I hope she took pics...maybe I'll load them under CP with vax!! and send THAT to ratbags except I don't want my family on his disgusting site. Laurie>Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I will!!!!!!!!! Diane > >Sheri, > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to do > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened by > >this idiot. > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I agree. He can feel free to write whatever the hell he wants to ,but using my kids pics crossed the line. Diane > > > >Sheri, > > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my kids > > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his site: > > > > > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > > > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible to > > do > > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm sickened > > by > > > >this idiot. > > > > > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Oh i hope you nail this sicko!!! Who does he think he is? Best of luck to you Diane!! > > > > >Sheri, > > > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my > kids > > > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his > site: > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > > > > > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible > to > > > do > > > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm > sickened > > > by > > > > >this idiot. > > > > > > > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 What a horrid violation! I am so sorry. Those pics should be off the web. How did he get them? H ---------- >From: " emerickfamily " <blakester97@...> >Vaccinations >Subject: Re: Ratbag >Date: Tue, May 7, 2002, 9:59 PM > >I agree. He can feel free to write whatever the hell he wants >to ,but using my kids pics crossed the line. > >Diane > > >> > > >Sheri, >> > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has my >kids >> > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his >site: >> > > > >> > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ >> > > > >> > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be possible >to >> > do >> > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm >sickened >> > by >> > > >this idiot. >> > > > >> > > >Diane >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 I think the theory is he retrieved them from this board's files which means we have a " spy " in the camp. Maybe these photos are elsewhere on the web and were retrived from there? Laurie>Oh > What a horrid violation! I am so sorry. Those pics should be off the web. > How did he get them? > > H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 She posted them here for others to see what chix pox looked like in her children He had a spy here, which is why I removed nearly EVERYONE from this list a few days ago and then am slowly adding back people hoping I don't add back the spy. But be careful what you post here. Don't use your real full name if you are concerned. Sheri At 10:39 PM 05/07/2002 -0400, you wrote: >I think the theory is he retrieved them from this board's files which means >we have a " spy " in the camp. Maybe these photos are elsewhere on the web >and were retrived from there? >Laurie>Oh > > >> What a horrid violation! I am so sorry. Those pics should be off the web. >> How did he get them? >> >> H > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 I am seriously seriously behind on my mail but................those with delicate ears, block them........ SUE HIS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D Suzie Re: Re: Ratbag I looked at it and this kind of crap infuriates me. His little question about what's to stop a 4 yo from scratching a pustule under the eye. Well, who's to say the child wouldn't have still contracted Cp with the vax and gotten one right there? It's so one-sided! And I like to think that altho I am TOTALLY against vaxxes I realize most of the people I know and love are going to do this so I have compromised(and toned down my passion). I have compromised by buying them Cave's book " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations " or something like that. So, since they are going to vax, they can at least try to do it safer and with the correct supplemantation. And I pray for the day when vaxxes are safer or outlawed! Still, nothing beats natural immunity. And who knows? Maybe realize they don't need all or any. Of course, I still send info from my point of view. This is a compromise I can live with as I need friends. I have considered only encouraging friendships with persons of the same life style but I would be VERY lonely. So I do my best to be an example and try to send any requested info. Not that anyone has tried anything I found as alternatives. I'll keep on trying. Anyhow, I also wanted to add that my last 2 went thru CP without any suppression(except daddy's administrtion of tylenol for headache which earned him a severe tongue-lashing from me). No calamine,benedryl,etc. I rubbed them thru their clothes with my fingertips and gave extra cuddling,Vit C,propolis. The 2 yo was worse on her scalp but the 4 yo would have made an excellent CP poster child! Almost all sores are faded. They barely ran a fever. A lady asked me today if I'd had them vaccinated and I said we don't vaccinate...ever...for anything. She fears her sons vax won't immune him to CP. I saod my sister;s son was vaxxed and got them. I hope she took pics...maybe I'll load them under CP with vax!! and send THAT to ratbags except I don't want my family on his disgusting site. Laurie>Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Thanks...we are checking out different avenues. Diane > > > > > >Sheri, > > > > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot has > my > > kids > > > > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at his > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > > > > > > > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be > possible > > to > > > > do > > > > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm > > sickened > > > > by > > > > > >this idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Nope...they had to be from here. I don't have them posted at all on my personal webpage. Diane > I think the theory is he retrieved them from this board's files which means > we have a " spy " in the camp. Maybe these photos are elsewhere on the web > and were retrived from there? > Laurie>Oh > > > > What a horrid violation! I am so sorry. Those pics should be off the web. > > How did he get them? > > > > H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I'd LOVE to, but looks like it will be difficult being we are in two different countries. I'm looking into a cyber attorney now. Diane > I am seriously seriously behind on my mail but................those with delicate ears, block them........ > SUE HIS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D > > Suzie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Ratbag > > > I looked at it and this kind of crap infuriates me. His little question > about what's to stop a 4 yo from scratching a pustule under the eye. Well, > who's to say the child wouldn't have still contracted Cp with the vax and > gotten one right there? It's so one-sided! And I like to think that altho > I am TOTALLY against vaxxes I realize most of the people I know and love are > going to do this so I have compromised(and toned down my passion). I have > compromised by buying them Cave's book " What Your Doctor May Not > Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations " or something like that. So, since > they are going to vax, they can at least try to do it safer and with the > correct supplemantation. And I pray for the day when vaxxes are safer or > outlawed! Still, nothing beats natural immunity. And who knows? Maybe > realize they don't need all or any. Of course, I still send info from my > point of view. This is a compromise I can live with as I need friends. I > have considered only encouraging friendships with persons of the same life > style but I would be VERY lonely. So I do my best to be an example and try > to send any requested info. Not that anyone has tried anything I found as > alternatives. I'll keep on trying. > Anyhow, I also wanted to add that my last 2 went thru CP without any > suppression(except daddy's administrtion of tylenol for headache which > earned him a severe tongue-lashing from me). No calamine,benedryl,etc. I > rubbed them thru their clothes with my fingertips and gave extra > cuddling,Vit C,propolis. The 2 yo was worse on her scalp but the 4 yo would > have made an excellent CP poster child! Almost all sores are faded. They > barely ran a fever. A lady asked me today if I'd had them vaccinated and I > said we don't vaccinate...ever...for anything. She fears her sons vax won't > immune him to CP. I saod my sister;s son was vaxxed and got them. I hope > she took pics...maybe I'll load them under CP with vax!! and send THAT to > ratbags except I don't want my family on his disgusting site. > Laurie>Oh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Yes, it's a shame about being in different countries. And the whole idea of copyright is a very murky area at the best of times. As is defamation - unless you have buckets of money. There was a case in Australia, detailed in Maureen Hickman's book, where an out of court settlement was reached in a similar sort of case. A photo of a woman and her unvaxed child appeared in a newspaper under the heading " Child abuse not to immunise " . I don't know if she was named in the article or not. BTW your email exchanges with ratters have been posted on the HealthFraud mailing list. Your name and email address are not posted, just your comments. Comments from this list about the incident have not made it to the HF list yet so I assume Sheri's purge got the 'spy'. For now. > I'd LOVE to, but looks like it will be difficult being we are in two > different countries. I'm looking into a cyber attorney now. > > Diane > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Thanks for letting me know. Diane > > I'd LOVE to, but looks like it will be difficult being we are in > two > > different countries. I'm looking into a cyber attorney now. > > > > Diane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 How do I get to this list to view the comments? I personally never wrote him...a friend did. Diane > BTW your email exchanges with ratters have been posted on the > HealthFraud mailing list. Your name and email address are not posted, > just your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 Well, I guess I missed alot of activity the past 2 weeks. I've been reading about the 'ratbag' thread and don't know if this information helps at all...probably not what you're looking for. But I went to register.com and typed in www.ratbags.com and then clicked on 'whois'...here is the link (crosses finger that it shows up correctly) http://www.register.com/whois-results.cgi? 4b75944a0befa18c75ec412e02e7c96d4d51f4b167daa3801bd93128e938880ceb6aea 6afbf334f1cf6cae9853cc9ac6 Anyhow it states the name, address and phone number of the Administrative and technical contact...usually the owner of the site. Although in this case...two different names are listed. If I'm embarrassing myself by stating the obvious and not what you want...just ignore me :-) I'm probably confused and your probably looking for the spy and not the owner of the site, but thought just in case the info helps...wanted to pass it along. Good luck. - > > > > > > >Sheri, > > > > > > >Thank you for bringing to my attention that this idiot > has > > my > > > kids > > > > > > >chicken pox pictures and lists them under Child Abuse at > his > > > site: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We have an attorney in our family who says it may be > > possible > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > >something to him being the pictures are of minors. I'm > > > sickened > > > > > by > > > > > > >this idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 ok I see my link didn't work directly, but it case whoever is interested....couple ways to see. I'll try another link here, but don't know (again) if this will work: The WhoIs site to identify site owners: http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois just type in the name of site you wish to find the info about...ie. ratbags.com and click go...it will show you contact information (name, address, phone, email) Another indirect way is to go to http://www.register.com type in the website click and then click on the whois link. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 The list homepage: http://www.quackwatch.com/00AboutQuackwatch/discuss.html To subscribe to the digest form of the list just send an email to: healthfraud-digest-subscribe@... I've never tried to access the archives - they are not stored on a public site. But I have kept the digest which included the reference to you and can forward it if you like. > > > BTW your email exchanges with ratters have been posted on the > > HealthFraud mailing list. Your name and email address are not > posted, > > just your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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