Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 In a message dated 8/29/00 2:48:39 PM, selina_farrell@... writes: << Does anyone know the specific risks and/or problems that might occur with a " DMPS challenge test " (an IV infusion) on a 5-year old boy? We are scheduled to do this with our son this coming Friday (an MD, who specializes in Environmental Medicine has suggested it), and I'm getting a little nervous about possible risks/problems with this type of procedure. >> See www.dmpsbackfire.com. Most of the people there had their problems with the " proper, safe " protocol all the 'witch doctors' claim eliminate adverse reactions. Vitamin C/mineral iv, etc. The rate of people having these kinds of terrible problems is about 1 in 6. I know lots of other people who have had simiar experiences but aren't on that website. In addition to the horrendous risks, there is absolutely no clinically useful information in the challenge test result. The doc's will routinely treat everyone even if their challenge test comes back very low, people with low numbers are often mercury poisoned, and if you give the " challenge test " to healthy people lots of them have very high levels of mercury excretion compared to what the " challenge test " supporters claim indicates toxicity. Since there is no benefit, no information, and a large risk I really don't think anyone should ever do a DMPS challenge test. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 << A recent DDI hair sample >> Download the counting rules and check what they say. The liver tests and lots of other tests really ARE perfectly normal. If you test for things that aren't wrong you find normal results. There are about 25,000 available tests. Only a few are abnormal in even the most seriously ill individual. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 I do know this has been traditionally used on kids with lead poisioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 I am new to the list. Who is Andy Cutler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2000 Report Share Posted August 29, 2000 DMPS challenge tests can be very dangerous! See dmpsbackfire.com. Some people on this board have used IV chelation, but our " experts " (Andy Cutler and Dr. Amy) don't recommend it. Read the archives. > Does anyone know the specific risks and/or problems > that might occur with a " DMPS challenge test " (an IV > infusion) on a 5-year old boy? We are scheduled to do > this with our son this coming Friday (an MD, who > specializes in Environmental Medicine has suggested > it), and I'm getting a little nervous about possible > risks/problems with this type of procedure. > > A recent DDI hair sample showed very high levels of 4 > types of metals (aluminum, antimony, titatium, and > uranium), and slightly elevated levels of Mercury > (approx. 68th percentile). We suspect high levels of > mercury are most likely present in our son's body and > brain, because some of his other tests show markers > for low glutathione and certain essential minerals. > Also, many of his symptoms mirror those described in > the recent " Autism & Mercury Poisoning " article by > Bernhard. > > My husband and I know that removing these metals is > the right thing to do, but we are a little > apprehensive about whether we are going about it in > the right way (with the DMPS challenge). > > BTW, a recent liver panel done by our local hospital > lab showed perfect liver functioning. Wonder how > accurate that is? > > Any advice regarding the DMPS challenge would be much > appreciated! > > Selina > > ===== > Cute As A Bug -- > The Cutest Baby & Kids Clothes On The 'Net! > http://www.cuteasabug.com > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 << I do know this has been traditionally used on kids with lead poisioning. >> A DMPS challenge test has NOT traditioanlly been used on lead poisoned children. An EDTA challenge test was. That was before DMSA was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Dear Selina, Andy Cutler, who is an expert in mercury chelation has recommended against DMPS by intravenous infusion. If you are going to chelate with DMSA, I would recommend that you do a challenge test with this medication instead. All you have to do is obtain DMSA-SR which can be made at 's Pharmacy in Costa Mesa. I think their number is 714-540-8911. It is dosed at 2 mg/lb. three time a day, one week on and one week off. Collect a 6 hour urine to be sent to Doctor's Data on day 3-7 of chelation and this will give you an idea what is being pulled out. I think this is safer but again I am not an expert in mercury chelation. Ken Sokolski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 In a message dated 08/29/2000 11:03:40 PM, AndyCutler@... writes: << << I do know this has been traditionally used on kids with lead poisioning. >> I was referring to IV chelation. I checked it out years ago for my dad as an alternative to bypass surgery. It removes cholesterol as well as heavy metals. I would not do it on child as it requires sitting still with an IV for hours. I believe it used to be the only alternative. A DMPS challenge test has NOT traditioanlly been used on lead poisoned children. An EDTA challenge test was. That was before DMSA was available. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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