Another informative post

[Guest guest]

I cannot disagree enough with this. Thiomersal is a toxin - a poison that

has no place in the body. But it is just ONE toxic component in a 'soup' of

toxins, foreign bacteria and viruses and other contaminants that we call

vaccines. If we say that thiomersal is the ONLY problem with vaccines, it is

so easy for manufacturers to just take them out and say - see, now you will

be safe - let's keep vaccinating and add even more vaccines.

This is what they did by replacing the DTP with the just as dangerous DTaP;

the OPV with the just as dangerous IPV. It is a mistake to push for removal

of one vaccine or one vaccine component. We must keep on pushing for

independent studies into the effects of vaccines in general and both

effectiveness and safety issues need to be covered. To say that autism is

caused by mercury alone belies the fact that autism has been caused by the

MMR - a vaccine which does not even contain mercury (or if it does, it is in

much lower dosages than say the DPT) and it has also been caused by the

supposedly mercury free DTaP.

Anything that can induce encephalitis can cause autism - and even

encephalitis is only part of the picture. Autism is multifactorial - the

human body and mind is complex and each of us are different. We are being

treated with cookie-cutter remedies that do not take these individual

differences into account. So, let's not push for a simplistic solution to a

complex problem becase the only ones who will benefit from this will be the

vaccine manufacturers who can continue with business as usual.

Take care,

Meryl

Vaccines are not the cause of .....

I don't know,why most of you are thinking, that the main problem and cause

of autism are the vaccines.

The problem is THIOMERSAL or even more precise MERCURY. Most of the

children, who are sensible to mercury or who store the mercury in their body

and develope autism or skin diseases or have a weak immunesystem and have

constantly those diseases described in the homeopathic picture, are

sensitized for mercury already as embryos thru their mother's blood and also

the breastmilk.

Autism is not caused by acute mercury poisoning, but a constant

micromercurialism and it can happen that after the shot the barrel is full

and the disease erupts.

We should more emphasis and energy to get rid of the use of mercury at

all.

It seems, that we used it so much, that we don't know anywhere we can put

it at and it show of in manmade floortiles, paper,etc everywhere were there

is no detection limit or limitig value. On Jan 13 was an article in a german

newspaper, that poisonous waste was found on the roof of the world.

In Nepal Greenpeace found two unprotected waste depots of chemicals:

Pestizides out of the production from international Chemicalfirms. A large

portion of this poison comes from Germany among those firms Bayer AG. Other

producers are Shell, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, Monsanto. Whoever brought those

chemicals to Nepal is unclear.

Those poisons are preparations of orgic mercury, prohibited in the US and

Europe because they are too dangerous (cancerogenic). The Bayer products (

Folidol E 605 and Solbar) corrode in rosty cannisters in the drainage are of

the drinking-water of Katmandu.

This is just an example, you can also talkabout all the mercury going down

the drain from dentist offices or gold mines, the Amazon River is mercury

polluted !!!

We think about fishoil capsules without you knowing where this fish came

from and being abel to test for mercury.

Please don't misunderstand: MERCURY HAS NOTHING TO DO IN ANY VACCINE !

BUT also nothing in cosmetics, medications, drinking water, food

(fish,fishflower,animalfood, fertilizer, manure, salat, eggs......)

ps. Thank you Bernard Windham for your great eyeopening papers you have

written about mercury.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

And there is no doubt that mercury is a poison but there are so many people

going around now saying that this is the only problem we have with vaccines

and that is a real slippery slope to travel down. We need to show that all

vaccines can be dangerous to susceptible individuals and that mercury is

just one of so MANY toxins involved. Sorry if I came on a bit too strong. I

think I'm running out of patience with this crap! LOL

Take care,

Meryl

-----Original Message-----

From: Hjfasufi@... [mailto:Hjfasufi@...]

Meryl:

I do agree with you! This message is from the list, which is

open to the public. The reason I posted it here was the info. on poisonous

waste.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Subject: Vaccines are not the cause of .....

I don't know,why most of you are thinking, that the main problem and cause

of autism are the vaccines.

The problem is THIOMERSAL or even more precise MERCURY. Most of the

children, who are sensible to mercury or who store the mercury in their body

and develope autism or skin diseases or have a weak immunesystem and have

constantly those diseases described in the homeopathic picture, are

sensitized for mercury already as embryos thru their mother's blood and also

the breastmilk.

Autism is not caused by acute mercury poisoning, but a constant

micromercurialism and it can happen that after the shot the barrel is full

and the disease erupts.

We should more emphasis and energy to get rid of the use of mercury at all.

It seems, that we used it so much, that we don't know anywhere we can put

it at and it show of in manmade floortiles, paper,etc everywhere were there

is no detection limit or limitig value. On Jan 13 was an article in a german

newspaper, that poisonous waste was found on the roof of the world.

In Nepal Greenpeace found two unprotected waste depots of chemicals:

Pestizides out of the production from international Chemicalfirms. A large

portion of this poison comes from Germany among those firms Bayer AG. Other

producers are Shell, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, Monsanto. Whoever brought those

chemicals to Nepal is unclear.

Those poisons are preparations of orgic mercury, prohibited in the US and

Europe because they are too dangerous (cancerogenic). The Bayer products (

Folidol E 605 and Solbar) corrode in rosty cannisters in the drainage are of

the drinking-water of Katmandu.

This is just an example, you can also talkabout all the mercury going down

the drain from dentist offices or gold mines, the Amazon River is mercury

polluted !!!

We think about fishoil capsules without you knowing where this fish came

from and being abel to test for mercury.

Please don't misunderstand: MERCURY HAS NOTHING TO DO IN ANY VACCINE !

BUT also nothing in cosmetics, medications, drinking water, food

(fish,fishflower,animalfood, fertilizer, manure, salat, eggs......)

ps. Thank you Bernard Windham for your great eyeopening papers you have

written about mercury.

________________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Meryl:

I do agree with you! This message is from the list, which is

open to the public. The reason I posted it here was the info. on poisonous

waste.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Meryl, for your comments on the dangers of vaccines.

I would like to echo your comments about the dangers of DTaP, which was marketed

as supposedly safer than DTP. Not!

My daughter had this at age five (she had already had seizures since seven

months), and within two weeks began having the worst seizures she has ever had.

She had seizures for a week at a time, 24 hours a day, only stopping for a few

days before resuming for another week, for A YEAR AND A HALF!!! I am still

furious when I think about it as I had made it clear to the (then) new

pediatrician that I didn't want her vaccinated at all. Then (against my

wishes), she did it anyway! What was I supposed to do? Tackle her?!! I was

shocked and angry. Since then, I have told her under no conditions are either

of my children to have any shots. Period. She doesn't like it, but too bad. I

think she'd be singing another song if it had happened to her kids.

Vaccines are not the cause of .....

I don't know,why most of you are thinking, that the main problem and cause

of autism are the vaccines.

The problem is THIOMERSAL or even more precise MERCURY. Most of the

children, who are sensible to mercury or who store the mercury in their body

and develope autism or skin diseases or have a weak immunesystem and have

constantly those diseases described in the homeopathic picture, are

sensitized for mercury already as embryos thru their mother's blood and also

the breastmilk.

Autism is not caused by acute mercury poisoning, but a constant

micromercurialism and it can happen that after the shot the barrel is full

and the disease erupts.

We should more emphasis and energy to get rid of the use of mercury at

all.

It seems, that we used it so much, that we don't know anywhere we can put

it at and it show of in manmade floortiles, paper,etc everywhere were there

is no detection limit or limitig value. On Jan 13 was an article in a german

newspaper, that poisonous waste was found on the roof of the world.

In Nepal Greenpeace found two unprotected waste depots of chemicals:

Pestizides out of the production from international Chemicalfirms. A large

portion of this poison comes from Germany among those firms Bayer AG. Other

producers are Shell, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, Monsanto. Whoever brought those

chemicals to Nepal is unclear.

Those poisons are preparations of orgic mercury, prohibited in the US and

Europe because they are too dangerous (cancerogenic). The Bayer products (

Folidol E 605 and Solbar) corrode in rosty cannisters in the drainage are of

the drinking-water of Katmandu.

This is just an example, you can also talkabout all the mercury going down

the drain from dentist offices or gold mines, the Amazon River is mercury

polluted !!!

We think about fishoil capsules without you knowing where this fish came

from and being abel to test for mercury.

Please don't misunderstand: MERCURY HAS NOTHING TO DO IN ANY VACCINE !

BUT also nothing in cosmetics, medications, drinking water, food

(fish,fishflower,animalfood, fertilizer, manure, salat, eggs......)

ps. Thank you Bernard Windham for your great eyeopening papers you have

written about mercury.

________________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

People need to start SUING these doctors and nurses for assault and

battery. It is possible you know - we are taught in nursing school that if

you do ANYTHING without permission, those are the consequences. Maybe we

can get at them that way.

Sheri

At 10:48 AM 02/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks, Meryl, for your comments on the dangers of vaccines.

>

>I would like to echo your comments about the dangers of DTaP, which was

marketed as supposedly safer than DTP. Not!

>

>My daughter had this at age five (she had already had seizures since seven

months), and within two weeks began having the worst seizures she has ever

had. She had seizures for a week at a time, 24 hours a day, only stopping

for a few days before resuming for another week, for A YEAR AND A HALF!!!

I am still furious when I think about it as I had made it clear to the

(then) new pediatrician that I didn't want her vaccinated at all. Then

(against my wishes), she did it anyway! What was I supposed to do? Tackle

her?!! I was shocked and angry. Since then, I have told her under no

conditions are either of my children to have any shots. Period. She

doesn't like it, but too bad. I think she'd be singing another song if it

had happened to her kids.

>

>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

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DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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[Guest guest]

We need to show that all

vaccines can be dangerous to susceptible individuals and that mercury is

just one of so MANY toxins involved. Sorry if I came on a bit too strong. I

think I'm running out of patience with this crap! LOL

Take care,

Meryl

Meryl, there have been about four or five responses to this post. All

sounding quite the same as yours. One Mom said her child suffered seizures

daily, almost 24 hours a day. No, you didn't come on to strong! My son had

the same reaction to the MMR that Wakefield's studies prove. I try to have

patience on the subject, but sometimes it's very difficult.

[Guest guest]

At 09:14 AM 02/24/2002 EST, you wrote:

>We need to show that all

>vaccines can be dangerous to susceptible individuals and that mercury is

>just one of so MANY toxins involved. Sorry if I came on a bit too strong. I

>think I'm running out of patience with this crap! LOL

>

>Take care,

>Meryl

>

>

>Meryl, there have been about four or five responses to this post. All

>sounding quite the same as yours. One Mom said her child suffered seizures

>daily, almost 24 hours a day. No, you didn't come on to strong! My son had

>the same reaction to the MMR that Wakefield's studies prove. I try to have

>patience on the subject, but sometimes it's very difficult.

>

>

Those of us in this fight for awareness for a long time many times get to

the end of our rope.

And those of you with damaged and murdered children - I just don't know how

you even cope.

We need more of you all to be MORE involved. You have got to get educated,

get up to speed and start local groups in your communities.

Very easy to just have a monthly sharing meeting.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@...

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Did you mean this in a negative way or positive?

Vaccines are not the cause of .....

I don't know,why most of you are thinking, that the main problem and cause

of autism are the vaccines.

The problem is THIOMERSAL or even more precise MERCURY. Most of the

children, who are sensible to mercury or who store the mercury in their body

and develope autism or skin diseases or have a weak immunesystem and have

constantly those diseases described in the homeopathic picture, are

sensitized for mercury already as embryos thru their mother's blood and also

the breastmilk.

Autism is not caused by acute mercury poisoning, but a constant

micromercurialism and it can happen that after the shot the barrel is full

and the disease erupts.

We should more emphasis and energy to get rid of the use of mercury at all.

It seems, that we used it so much, that we don't know anywhere we can put

it at and it show of in manmade floortiles, paper,etc everywhere were there

is no detection limit or limitig value. On Jan 13 was an article in a german

newspaper, that poisonous waste was found on the roof of the world.

In Nepal Greenpeace found two unprotected waste depots of chemicals:

Pestizides out of the production from international Chemicalfirms. A large

portion of this poison comes from Germany among those firms Bayer AG. Other

producers are Shell, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, Monsanto. Whoever brought those

chemicals to Nepal is unclear.

Those poisons are preparations of orgic mercury, prohibited in the US and

Europe because they are too dangerous (cancerogenic). The Bayer products (

Folidol E 605 and Solbar) corrode in rosty cannisters in the drainage are of

the drinking-water of Katmandu.

This is just an example, you can also talkabout all the mercury going down

the drain from dentist offices or gold mines, the Amazon River is mercury

polluted !!!

We think about fishoil capsules without you knowing where this fish came

from and being abel to test for mercury.

Please don't misunderstand: MERCURY HAS NOTHING TO DO IN ANY VACCINE !

BUT also nothing in cosmetics, medications, drinking water, food

(fish,fishflower,animalfood, fertilizer, manure, salat, eggs......)

ps. Thank you Bernard Windham for your great eyeopening papers you have

written about mercury.

________________________________________________________________