Re: confused about pertussis

January 19, 2002

thanks sherri its just usually if you get an illness EX CP you develop

immunities to it and it and most dont get them again seems so touch and go

for pertussis

thanks again

Amy

Ohio

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January 19, 2002

In a message dated 1/19/02 12:19:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Chevy974@... writes:

> Does

> any one know if you can infact get it mor than once.

>

I'm not really sure. I was vaccinated for it as a child - and got it anyway

- along with my brother and sister. I don't think we ever got it again - I

was very young when I had it and don't really remember it - I was younger

than 5 years old.

Chelly

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January 19, 2002

At 03:16 PM 01/19/2002 EST, you wrote:

>

>OK I have read so much on this and everythime i read one says Yes you get

>immunity to it and others so NO you dont you can get it more than once. Does

>any one know if you can infact get it mor than once.

>Amy

There is NO definite answer for anything Amy.

Anything is possible. Sorry, no one can be more sure than that. There are

varying opinions.

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January 19, 2002

Amy, That tends to be true only with viral, but not bacterial (of which

pertussis is one), infections. However, as Sheri said, you never know,

because immunity is a complex thing, again mostly based on the host.

For instance, when I was a child, I used to get strep throat all the time.

So much, in fact, that they thought I must be a carrier, because I didn't

get a fever, but always had a positive culture when I went in with a sore

throat. They even decided to culture me one time when I didn't have any

symptoms, and voila!, I was NOT a carrier, because I didn't have it (as I

knew would be the case, given I was the one with or without the sore

throat).

Anyway, I have not had strep now for around 40 years......(knock on wood).

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Re: confused about pertussis

thanks sherri its just usually if you get an illness EX CP you develop

immunities to it and it and most dont get them again seems so touch and go

for pertussis

thanks again

Amy

Ohio

AMY

MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES

Chelsea 9

Carrigian 5

4

Chaela Noelle Almost 1

from the mouth of a 4 yr old

" your not fat mommy just squishy! " !!!! )

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January 19, 2002

Suzanne, One of the theories about shingles is that it is an unresolved case

of the chickenpox, which raises serious questions about the likelihood of

vaccinated kids later getting shingles (which is a case of the chickenpox,

which never leaves the body via the rash).

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Re: confused about pertussis

Amy and Sheri, Am I wrong I don't know but this makes sense to me.

As I understand it, you get the disease, your immune system marks it

and recognises it next time around so the defence is mounted from

moment of entry - ie the immune system does not have to go through

the battle (disease) to know this organism, it already knows it and

zaps it everytime it sees it. (Actually, it is not moment of entry,

it is at a specific number where it becomes threatening to the host

organism. In theory then, we all carry infinite types and numbers

of " germs " in our systems at any one time)

Some organisms mutate or evolve so you can contract " different

enough " versions eg colds and coughs, etc. Now pertussis and

chickenpox etc you get only once presumably for two reasons: one

because the " bug " is easy for the immune system to recognise and your

immune system is alert enough to recognise it. So presumably you

would only get it again if 1. the " bug " organism has evolved or 2.

your immune system is otherwise occupied.

OK - so the reason you get shingles is because you are severely run

down, right? shingles is the same bug that causes chickenpox. It

reactivates and causes shingles only if you have had chickenpox

already. So why does it reactivate? Because your immune system is

suppressed (eg NSAIDs or steroids), otherwise occupied (fighting a

raging infection) or just not equipped (malnourished).

Does this make sense to you too? Lord, I certainly hope so -

Otherwise the basis for everything I do to keep my kids well has just

gone out the window!

Suzy

London

> thanks sherri its just usually if you get an illness EX CP you

develop

> immunities to it and it and most dont get them again seems so

touch and go

> for pertussis

> thanks again

> Amy

> Ohio

>

> AMY

> MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES

> Chelsea 9

> Carrigian 5

> 4

> Chaela Noelle Almost 1

> from the mouth of a 4 yr old

> " your not fat mommy just squishy! " !!!! )

> <A

HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The

Haskett bunch</A>

>

January 19, 2002