Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Where to get immune plus I am in South Africa please help me I want to try it. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device GcMAF and Immune Plus Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. Happytype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 http://www.ekur.biz/ but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. They seem to be certain, though. GcMAF and Immune Plus Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. Happytype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Cool. I will be following up! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus http://www.ekur.biz/ but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. They seem to be certain, though. GcMAF and Immune Plus Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. Happytype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Please keep us posted for the results! I will try to try if it really can cure HIV Why doctors told me there wasn't a cure For Aids?! Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 C,mon Marc smell the coffee..there is a cure for everything..all these cures are natural..which means God has put them there or at least given man the wisdom to " create " them by combining them in their natural harmony and you just have to go out there and find them...the chances of your doctor handing you a cure for anything is slim as their prime objective is to get you on their consumables (or drugs) which goes on forever and gives their whole industry a nice repeating cash flow...you are just a big $ sign to them as soon as you step through that door..they cant pull the wool over peoples eyes anymore so easy as they could because of the internet and that is why they (big pharma) are getting so desperate and going around banning natural medicines now...in Europe a few weeks ago Chinese/Indian and Brazilian herbs just got the bullet. The only two products I have ever been serious on selling have been banned in Europe, Bionaid and Noni juice. Incidentally I never heard anyone mention the Noni as it was a big deal a while back when Morinda were selling it in the UK at £40 or $60 a bottle and that was in 1999. I used to get mine from Fiji and I have visited the factory a few times and seen the production..man this stuff stinks and tastes disgusting at first until you get the taste for it, I am talking about the pure stuff here ,not cut with guava or raspberry to kill the taste. the effect of noni juice was a synergy on the 7 main glands in the body to pull them back into balance..when you do this you improve every function of the body and begin to eliminate health issues. That is why they were giving it an A-Z of ailments it could treat. One of which was sunburn which I got big time when snorkelling on a Fijian Island, well I just poured this stuff on my back and it got me through the worst of it without too much pain or sunstroke. It was claimed to be a big help on cancer as well so you can see that it was another tool in the box to repair the immune system. Rodney ________________________________ From: Marc <ur_ass2003@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, 18 May, 2011 1:58:39 Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus  Please keep us posted for the results! I will try to try if it really can cure HIV Why doctors told me there wasn't a cure For Aids?! Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hi Marc, There is a cure for AIDS. You can have stem cell implants put in your bone marrow. That is how a guy in Germany was cured. Health care workers who get struck with needles take HAART immediately and they get cured because the virus doesn't get a chance to incubate or infect their cells. For those who have been infected for a period of time, right now there is no cure, only treatment. Soon there will be a cure. It is in study. Be here for the cure! GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Come on that is pharma talk regards " A " cure..it,s in study and it is coming soon..how many times have we heard that..how does it have to be a single entity that cures it..why cant it be a combination of pretty well known immune stimulants and virus busters that together can blow this out..a lot of you guys just want it to be in one box... " the cure ! " ....stem cells I can believe but isn,t that what immune system boosters are already doing , helping the bone marrow get producing t-cells etc again..of course it is. There are different ways of doing this and you have hit on one. As I said last week my wifes niece in Uganda  who was born from hiv parents and had 10 years of hiv type ailments is now healthy and testing negative after taking Bionaid alone . Maybe Bionaid alone may not work for everyone but there are other treatments you can combine to get your body functioning correctly again..pulsers..homeopathy..kinesiology.  Dont just hold out for one magic bullet. RG  ________________________________ From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Wed, 18 May, 2011 2:47:47 Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus  Hi Marc, There is a cure for AIDS. You can have stem cell implants put in your bone marrow. That is how a guy in Germany was cured. Health care workers who get struck with needles take HAART immediately and they get cured because the virus doesn't get a chance to incubate or infect their cells. For those who have been infected for a period of time, right now there is no cure, only treatment. Soon there will be a cure. It is in study. Be here for the cure! GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 The guy in Berlin got a bone marrow transplant from a one in one thousand person that is immuned to HIV. But 30% of bone transplants result in death so it is too much of a gamble for me. > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > Happytype > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 For me too, but you cannot dispute this is a cure. The question was: Is there a cure for HIV? The answer is YES. GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > Happytype > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Yes, before God created a virus he already created A cure but u have to look for it.. Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Rodney Gove <rg781961@...> wrote: > C,mon Marc smell the coffee..there is a cure for everything..all these cures are > natural..which means God has put them there or at least given man the wisdom to > " create " them by combining them in their natural harmony and you just have to > go out there and find them...the chances of your doctor handing you a cure for > anything is slim as their prime objective is to get you on their consumables (or > drugs) which goes on forever and gives their whole industry a nice repeating > cash flow...you are just a big $ sign to them as soon as you step through that > door..they cant pull the wool over peoples eyes anymore so easy as they could > because of the internet and that is why they (big pharma) are getting so > desperate and going around banning natural medicines now...in Europe a few weeks > ago Chinese/Indian and Brazilian herbs just got the bullet. The only two > products I have ever been serious on selling have been banned in Europe, Bionaid > and Noni juice. Incidentally I never heard anyone mention the Noni as it was a > big deal a while back when Morinda were selling it in the UK at £40 or $60 a > bottle and that was in 1999. I used to get mine from Fiji and I have visited > the factory a few times and seen the production..man this stuff stinks and > tastes disgusting at first until you get the taste for it, I am talking about > the pure stuff here ,not cut with guava or raspberry to kill the taste. the > effect of noni juice was a synergy on the 7 main glands in the body to pull them > back into balance..when you do this you improve every function of the body and > begin to eliminate health issues. That is why they were giving it an A-Z of > ailments it could treat. One of which was sunburn which I got big time when > snorkelling on a Fijian Island, well I just poured this stuff on my back and it > got me through the worst of it without too much pain or sunstroke. It was > claimed to be a big help on cancer as well so you can see that it was another > tool in the box to repair the immune system. > Rodney > > ________________________________ > From: Marc <ur_ass2003@...> > " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > > Sent: Wed, 18 May, 2011 1:58:39 > Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > Please keep us posted for the results! > I will try to try if it really can cure HIV > Why doctors told me there wasn't a cure > For Aids?! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 18, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > >makers > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > Happytype > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Marc is just scared to death!! I can't tell you how many endless e-mails I got from him and how many times he asked the same questions. He's scared to listen to his doctor one minute then he's scared not to listen to him the next minute. He just has to decide what is best for him. No doctor is ever going to tell him he's " Cured " it just doesn't work that way. As long as the use the Antibody against you, find a " Viral load " in you, or tell you your T-Cells are not to their standards. > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Marc has all the reason in the world to be scared to death!  Hell, I am too!  It's scary one way or another.  I'm getting many private emails from people in the group who never post and who are on meds.  What they all have in common is that they waited and tried to fight HIV by other means but eventually they got sick and sicker as the years passed that they had to go on meds and that's what saved them.  One guy warned me today that once you go on meds it is very dangerous to stop.  He said he quit and got extremely ill.  So far, I'm not finding a bunch of people who have been poz for over 10-15+ years who are healthy and going strong.  Most end up getting very ill past 10 years or so without treatment, some sooner.  So what does that tell you?  This virus is no joke! Randall ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:26 PM Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus  Marc is just scared to death!! I can't tell you how many endless e-mails I got from him and how many times he asked the same questions. He's scared to listen to his doctor one minute then he's scared not to listen to him the next minute. He just has to decide what is best for him. No doctor is ever going to tell him he's " Cured " it just doesn't work that way. As long as the use the Antibody against you, find a " Viral load " in you, or tell you your T-Cells are not to their standards. > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I was supposedly exposed in 1993 and I was diagnosed in 2001.I wasn't sick or had never been sick but my husband had it and just never got around to tell me about it.So when he died in 2001 and I found out this possiblity I went and got checked.I was psotive.But I have never had a cold a headache are anything from this and If you go by the time I was exposed till now that is 18 yrs.No meds just totally good health in all these yrs.I have been tested repeatedly with and Wb and I have and have always had an undectable viral load and my t-cells have never dropped and they are always above 1200.So I guess I am one of the weirdo's.Maybe I am immune to it .How do you prove That? Thanks pmc GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 This miracle healer i mentioned told me I do not Have HIV it's due to a colon blocked And virus going into my veins resulting in a blood virus。 He advice me that I can stop the ARV Medications now but I have fear as the Doctors have warned me about the virus Mutation..I'm not sure who to trust As it's about life and death thing.. I was given some natural ingredients Blood cleansing tonic by the healer. I'm getting confused and worried. Anyone knows there is a new drug in the Market that prevents spread of HIV During intercourse ? My wife is currently HIV Negative and hopes to have a baby.. Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2011, at 8:45 AM, " a Mccurry " <pmc1219@...> wrote: > I was supposedly exposed in 1993 and I was diagnosed in 2001.I wasn't sick or had never been sick but my husband had it and just never got around to tell me about it.So when he died in 2001 and I found out this possiblity I went and got checked.I was psotive.But I have never had a cold a headache are anything from this and If you go by the time I was exposed till now that is 18 yrs.No meds just totally good health in all these yrs.I have been tested repeatedly with and Wb and I have and have always had an undectable viral load and my t-cells have never dropped and they are always above 1200.So I guess I am one of the weirdo's.Maybe I am immune to it .How do you prove That? Thanks pmc > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Randall you have been scared too, people have told you on this group to just stick to the meds. The fact of the matter is, YOU ARE GOING TO GET SICK WHEN YOU GET OFF THE MEDS! Why? Because you have to give your body time to detox from those unnatural chemical properties that are plaguing your vital organs. You get flu like symptoms as your body begins the healing/detox process. I experienced that as well when I got off them meds and began to detox. I got to the point where I had the medication in my hand was about to go back on Medications....good thing I didn't because now I never get a cold nor do I have allergies anymore. Allergies always bothered me all my life. This " Virus " is what ever you want it to be Randall. Why? Because no test in the world can truly detect the presence of this virus. I want proof!! I want to see this virus under a microscope when I extract this blood from my oven veins!! You have been on your personal quest for so long and it seems you have gotten no where. When I came to this group I was lost and clueless, yet I learned, I grew and presented to you and to the group my extensive research and presented my testimony with enormous amount of information. Sure you got a positive result when you took and HIV test, did you every question why? Why did it come out positive? Many factors can result in an HIV antibody response. I questioned it and the reason I came out positive was because of Appendicitis. Now I was told to be on medications for the rest of my life? You need to quit dribbling the ball and further investigate your own body and see what's breaking you down! If you're convinced it's HIV well then take you're meds! Quit questioning everything else! It's that simple! > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hi Don, I haven't been dribbling a ball or anything as this is no game to me whatsoever.  I didn't get really " aggressive " with my research until the past year because before that, I was going through alot of emotional pain because my ex lover was psychologically abusing me and then of course finally left me because of my illness.  I had been doing some research during that time but not as aggressive as I am now.  There is no " set time " that I have to make a decision (or stop " dribbling " as you say) as it's my life and my choice.  If it takes me 5 more years, then so be it.  I just hope that I am alive and well during that time.  I have questioned other things about my health, yes but I am also aware of the seroconversion process of HIV and I went through all those symptoms AND tested positive a few months later just like they say in the literature.  I look in the mirror and my glands are swollen and altho I have always been small framed, I am smaller now.  I can definitely see the change by the shape of my face since becoming positive.  I can see it in other HIV positives too on the gay websites.  I have followed internet dissidents, many of whom have died in recent years who did not believe this virus was what they said it was.  In so many ways, I relied upon their living to help me live and have hope.  Emery was the last person I was following and when I found the post here that he passed, it just hit me hard.  I followed Emery's posts on poz.com where he said alot of things that sound very similar to what you post here Don, yet he is gone.  They all warned him that he was on a dangerous path and now who can say what? Even tho my posts of struggling to find my " comfort " as far as HIV meds is concerned is frustrating to you... even tho it sounds like I'm whining and making your head spin with the same old same old, I do feel I am on the right path in what I am doing.  At least I am reading, researching, asking questions before I decide to shove pills down my throat.  Many people don't do that.  They just do what they are told immediately.  So at least give me some credit for that.  Really all I have to say is that I hope you and I, Don, live for many many years to come in great health no matter which path we take.  Goodnight my friend. Randall ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus  Randall you have been scared too, people have told you on this group to just stick to the meds. The fact of the matter is, YOU ARE GOING TO GET SICK WHEN YOU GET OFF THE MEDS! Why? Because you have to give your body time to detox from those unnatural chemical properties that are plaguing your vital organs. You get flu like symptoms as your body begins the healing/detox process. I experienced that as well when I got off them meds and began to detox. I got to the point where I had the medication in my hand was about to go back on Medications....good thing I didn't because now I never get a cold nor do I have allergies anymore. Allergies always bothered me all my life. This " Virus " is what ever you want it to be Randall. Why? Because no test in the world can truly detect the presence of this virus. I want proof!! I want to see this virus under a microscope when I extract this blood from my oven veins!! You have been on your personal quest for so long and it seems you have gotten no where. When I came to this group I was lost and clueless, yet I learned, I grew and presented to you and to the group my extensive research and presented my testimony with enormous amount of information. Sure you got a positive result when you took and HIV test, did you every question why? Why did it come out positive? Many factors can result in an HIV antibody response. I questioned it and the reason I came out positive was because of Appendicitis. Now I was told to be on medications for the rest of my life? You need to quit dribbling the ball and further investigate your own body and see what's breaking you down! If you're convinced it's HIV well then take you're meds! Quit questioning everything else! It's that simple! > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I was growing fatter n fatter Putting on more weight after diagnosed positive.. Which the healer said it's not a symptom Of HIV patient. My blood is hot and not cold also. Any chances of wrong diagnosis ? Swollen glands n many ulcers Means is Aids ??? Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > Hi Don, I haven't been dribbling a ball or anything as this is no game to me whatsoever. I didn't get really " aggressive " with my research until the past year because before that, I was going through alot of emotional pain because my ex lover was psychologically abusing me and then of course finally left me because of my illness. I had been doing some research during that time but not as aggressive as I am now. There is no " set time " that I have to make a decision (or stop " dribbling " as you say) as it's my life and my choice. If it takes me 5 more years, then so be it. I just hope that I am alive and well during that time. I have questioned other things about my health, yes but I am also aware of the seroconversion process of HIV and I went through all those symptoms AND tested positive a few months later just like they say in the literature. I look in the mirror and my glands are swollen and altho I have always been small framed, I am > smaller now. I can definitely see the change by the shape of my face since becoming positive. I can see it in other HIV positives too on the gay websites. I have followed internet dissidents, many of whom have died in recent years who did not believe this virus was what they said it was. In so many ways, I relied upon their living to help me live and have hope. Emery was the last person I was following and when I found the post here that he passed, it just hit me hard. I followed Emery's posts on poz.com where he said alot of things that sound very similar to what you post here Don, yet he is gone. They all warned him that he was on a dangerous path and now who can say what? > > Even tho my posts of struggling to find my " comfort " as far as HIV meds is concerned is frustrating to you... even tho it sounds like I'm whining and making your head spin with the same old same old, I do feel I am on the right path in what I am doing. At least I am reading, researching, asking questions before I decide to shove pills down my throat. Many people don't do that. They just do what they are told immediately. So at least give me some credit for that. Really all I have to say is that I hope you and I, Don, live for many many years to come in great health no matter which path we take. Goodnight my friend. > > Randall > > ________________________________ > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > Randall you have been scared too, people have told you on this group to just stick to the meds. The fact of the matter is, YOU ARE GOING TO GET SICK WHEN YOU GET OFF THE MEDS! Why? Because you have to give your body time to detox from those unnatural chemical properties that are plaguing your vital organs. You get flu like symptoms as your body begins the healing/detox process. I experienced that as well when I got off them meds and began to detox. I got to the point where I had the medication in my hand was about to go back on Medications....good thing I didn't because now I never get a cold nor do I have allergies anymore. Allergies always bothered me all my life. This " Virus " is what ever you want it to be Randall. Why? Because no test in the world can truly detect the presence of this virus. I want proof!! I want to see this virus under a microscope when I extract this blood from my oven veins!! You have been on your personal > quest for so long and it seems you have gotten no where. When I came to this group I was lost and clueless, yet I learned, I grew and presented to you and to the group my extensive research and presented my testimony with enormous amount of information. Sure you got a positive result when you took and HIV test, did you every question why? Why did it come out positive? Many factors can result in an HIV antibody response. I questioned it and the reason I came out positive was because of Appendicitis. Now I was told to be on medications for the rest of my life? You need to quit dribbling the ball and further investigate your own body and see what's breaking you down! If you're convinced it's HIV well then take you're meds! Quit questioning everything else! It's that simple! > > > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 You can't be using Emery and Karri as poster childs for the dissident movement. Karri died of a completely different complications and Emery's post are no where similar to mine. Emery ignored many signs, signs that could happen to anybody HIV+ or not. Emery believed you could get well no matter what, I don't believe that at all. I believe in science outside of the realm of HIV. When it comes to HIV so much information was put out there and the science is now catching up to these bastards. They let out a public scare and panic lose and 30 years later people are waking up. You really need to log on to facebook and join the house of numbers page or the rethinking AIDS group. There you will find thousands of people from all over the world who are healthy and living medications free.  You let one death case out of 5000 bring you down. When you look at the statistics of people who have died and have been on medications the number is just astronomical You should be using Emery's death as an example of not to ignore the warning signs. I am not scared. HIV did scare me and it did control my life for a good while but I don't let it do that any more. Ed left this group because he was no longer scared and now recently . This group helped them in that sense and they much rather leave all the wondering 's to figure it out for themselves here on this group. Randall I'm sorry if I came across too u as strong and I do give you all the credit in the world for making this research. I just hope you find what you're looking for. Many of us are just here trying to share our knowledge and your tactics on how to combat this. > http://www.ekur.biz/ > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > They seem to be certain, though. > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 >makers > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > Happytype > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 So when is the cure from Texas University coming ? They are taking so long to run The clinical trials 。 Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote: > You can't be using Emery and Karri as poster childs for the dissident movement. Karri died of a completely different complications and Emery's post are no where similar to mine. Emery ignored many signs, signs that could happen to anybody HIV+ or not. Emery believed you could get well no matter what, I don't believe that at all. I believe in science outside of the realm of HIV. When it comes to HIV so much information was put out there and the science is now catching up to these bastards. They let out a public scare and panic lose and 30 years later people are waking up. You really need to log on to facebook and join the house of numbers page or the rethinking AIDS group. There you will find thousands of people from all over the world who are healthy and living medications free. You let one death case out of 5000 bring you down. When you look at the statistics of people who have died and have been on medications the number is just > astronomical You should be using Emery's death as an example of not to ignore the warning signs. I am not scared. HIV did scare me and it did control my life for a good while but I don't let it do that any more. Ed left this group because he was no longer scared and now recently . This group helped them in that sense and they much rather leave all the wondering 's to figure it out for themselves here on this group. Randall I'm sorry if I came across too u as strong and I do give you all the credit in the world for making this research. I just hope you find what you're looking for. Many of us are just here trying to share our knowledge and your tactics on how to combat this. > > > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Clinical Trials take 10-15 years. And assuming it does pass the test in the clinical trials once the drug gets approved by the FDA the drug company has to pay the FDA $500,000,000 dollars to get it approved, > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Hi Marc, Getting fatter after diagnosis could mean you are nervous. Eating is a common response to nerves. The healer is not looking at the whole picture, a mistake most doctors make. Your gaining weight has nothing to do with your HIV or the virus. What does it mean that your blood is hot? I hope it is hot. At least 98.6 degrees, lol. If you doubt the diagnosis get the test redone. Swollen glands and other ulcers could well be a symptom of the virus. It means your immune system is under siege. I suggest you start HAART ASAP. The longer you wait the harm you do yourself. GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Is HAART your only solution for everything?  Advise him to get more test done. Swollen glands can be anything. Last time my friend had swollen glands she had cancer. All Marc has to do a good Detox and improve on this diet and exercise. Why would he want to put all that toxic substance in his system? HAART doesn't do a damn thing to the body because it has never been fully tested on " the virus " no scientist in this world has the virus isolated and growing it in a test tube look to see what weakens it or what gives it strength or how it truly affects a healthy cell. They go based on viral loads and T-Cells and other test that are unreliable. So you don't be spreading your nonsense on what HAART does or can do for an individual because what ever you're preaching or who ever is paying you is just pure nonsense. > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 So you don't be spreading your nonsense on what HAART does or can do for an individual because what ever you're preaching or who ever is paying you is just pure nonsense. Yes Sir Don, NOT!!!! GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Marc, Don has his opinion and he is entitled to that, however, if you think test results are wrong or inclusive the best and easiest thing to do first is to redo the test. If both results match then you have to take further action. Whether further action is to detox, improve your diet, and exercise, or to start HAART that is up to you. I can tell you this, HAART is the only thing available now that works directly on the HIV virus. All this other stuff works on things other than the actual virus. --- Original Message ----- From: Don o: cures for AIDS Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:43 PM Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus Is HAART your only solution for everything? Advise him to get more test done. Swollen glands can be anything. Last time my friend had swollen glands she had cancer. All Marc has to do a good Detox and improve on this diet and exercise. Why would he want to put all that toxic substance in his system? HAART doesn't do a damn thing to the body because it has never been fully tested on " the virus " no scientist in this world has the virus isolated and growing it in a test tube look to see what weakens it or what gives it strength or how it truly affects a healthy cell. They go based on viral loads and T-Cells and other test that are unreliable. So you don't be spreading your nonsense on what HAART does or can do for an individual because what ever you're preaching or who ever is paying you is just pure nonsense. > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > >makers > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > Happytype > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Probably too much poppers and drugs like Ice had affected my immune system With a lot of work stress and other factors Contributed to low cd4 and not the HIV Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2011, at 5:19 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote: > Marc, > Don has his opinion and he is entitled to that, however, if you think test results are wrong or inclusive the best and easiest thing to do first is to redo the test. If both results match then you have to take further action. Whether further action is to detox, improve your diet, and exercise, or to start HAART that is up to you. I can tell you this, HAART is the only thing available now that works directly on the HIV virus. All this other stuff works on things other than the actual virus. > > --- Original Message ----- > From: Don > o: cures for AIDS > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: GcMAF and Immune Plus > > Is HAART your only solution for everything? Advise him to get more test done. Swollen glands can be anything. Last time my friend had swollen glands she had cancer. All Marc has to do a good Detox and improve on this diet and exercise. Why would he want to put all that toxic substance in his system? HAART doesn't do a damn thing to the body because it has never been fully tested on " the virus " no scientist in this world has the virus isolated and growing it in a test tube look to see what weakens it or what gives it strength or how it truly affects a healthy cell. They go based on viral loads and T-Cells and other test that are unreliable. So you don't be spreading your nonsense on what HAART does or can do for an individual because what ever you're preaching or who ever is paying you is just pure nonsense. > > > > > > > > > http://www.ekur.biz/ > > > > > > > but I am not sure yet if it will work as claimed, future will tell. > > > > > > > They seem to be certain, though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GcMAF and Immune Plus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone tried Immune Plus or GcMAF? > > > > > > > There are some clinical studies and trials that seem to prove that GcMAF > > > > > > > eradicates HIV from the body and raises CD4 to normal level. One of the 3 > > > > > > >makers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even gives a guarantee of money back if after 16 weeks of treatment, the VL is > > > > > > > not undetectable and CD4 raised by at least 300. > > > > > > > They apparently have cases that their VL remained undetectable 7 years later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am presently on Immune Plus and there has been no side effects. I will have > > > > > > > blood testing in a month or so and will post my results. > > > > > > > Happytype > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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