Guest guest Posted August 16, 2000 Report Share Posted August 16, 2000 Fluffy, It's nice to to have someone else who knows about the AIDS research scandal, and that in the U.S. the treatments are generally more lethal than the " disease. " > > the number one killer in africa are mainly the non HIV diseases > > the highest number of HIV related deaths has occurred in Western > countries that have modern medical " treatments " > > If these " treatments " especially the early ones had been available in > Africa, their death rates would have sky rocketed > > the government just takes these non AIDS deaths and calls it AIDS ... > who will ever know > > the only way get any overseas funding for medical facilities is > by calling all conditions AIDS. If someone has a broken leg, they get > treated for AIDS. If they didn't call it AIDS, they wouldn't be > allowed medical help. It is a quid pro quo. as long as they lie about > it, washington will fund it. > > even in this country, many people have been diagnosed with AIDS even > without an HIV test. > > also, there is another problem with determining HIV death in africa. > TESTING ... they couldn't afford it so one has to wonder how they > could derive such numbers except through imagination > > all the AIDS test measures is HIV antibodies. It doesn't measure > whether it is harmful or whether they are infected. the high death > rate predictions have never come true. > > researchers that have had non HIV related theories on AIDS have > been defunded. this pretty much alone should make you very suspicious > of any information that gets spewed out by the government > > look what happen to duesberg ... this should be another alarm bell > > in the US, AIDS primarily affects Gays and Blacks > > from a disease point of view, this is very strange. i can't > think of any other diseases where this has occurred > > some blacks believe they were targeted for genocide with " AIDS " ... > nothing would surprise me anymore > > some doctor went around and injected himself with HIV infected blood. > last i heard he was doing fine. personally, i think injecting > someones blood into oneself is dangerous whether HIV infected or not. > > HIV does have a role in AIDS but it is not what causes the main > assault. even after 20 years and 17 billion dollars some only " think " > they know > > Even La Montagnier, the discoverer of HIV thinks there has to be > something else that causes the damage since after 20 years, the HIV > organism doesn't explain it. He'll put something out that says HIV > causes AIDS but then he will contradict himself. He does it for > political reasons. > > The AIDS coverup extends to the international level since many other > countries have their own closet full of skeletons they need covered > up. > > > Fluffy > > > > > > - > > > > > > Oh, your thought is not so weird - from the attention, and > positive > > > results, Ampligen is getting from AIDS victims, Ampligen will > > probably be > > > FDA approved for AIDS long before it is approved (if ever) for > > CFS... So > > > if we want our local hospital to be enabled to administer > Ampligen > > to cure > > > our CFS, we may indeed have to go " running out " and get AIDS... > > Problem is, > > > I'm not gay, and don't think you are either, nor are most CFS > > patients, so > > > guess we will have to find an AIDS patient who is willing to give > > us a > > > blood drop or two.. >> > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Dear Dr Pressman, Where is your clinic located? I am new to this group. Also, what exactly does the treatment for AIDS with Ozone entail? Are you injecting it into the person, introducing it rectally etc? Does it effectuate a full cure often or just a good remission? I have recently obtained an excellent book on treating AIDS homeopathically from www.minimum.com and according to the author he is getting some very good remissions and some apparent cure but he admits it is a very intense, hard juggle of remedies to do. There must be a simpler more consistently effective way. Has anyone been getting results by taking h202 orally or by Homozon or some other oral oxy approach? All I know is what I have read in the book Oxidative Therapies. Sincerely, Mike In a message dated 01/08/2001 6:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, saul@... writes: << Dear Mike, We have been treating AIDS with the ozone sauna since 1994. It is the most effective treatment I have seen, in combination with a reasonable dietary scheme, usually incorporating aloe vera, and the various cleanses. There was a clinic in Pennsylvania with our equipment, but he has moved west after considerable persecution from the local brain police. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Dear Mike, We have been treating AIDS with the ozone sauna since 1994. It is the most effective treatment I have seen, in combination with a reasonable dietary scheme, usually incorporating aloe vera, and the various cleanses. There was a clinic in Pennsylvania with our equipment, but he has moved west after considerable persecution from the local brain police. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh AIDS > Dear Group, > > I just joined this egroup yesterday and I must say that I love it from what I > have seen. I am curious to know if any practitioners on here have had good > results with H202 or Ozone in the treatment of AIDS. I have some clients who > don't get really good results and I would like to recommend them to someone > who uses Ozone or H202 in the Philadelphia area. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Hi Mike, I've used H2O2 ( & deep breathing techniques) in addition to several other therapies for treating hiv/aids. It's important to remember that often when someone has disease, it's evidence that more than one thing is wrong in the care & health of their body. I used a combination therapy of hydrogen peroxide, nutritional supplemtns (including trace minerals), hyperthermia, exercise and low sugar diet. You can read more specifically the methods I used on my website <A HREF= " http://www.knowledgeisthecure.com/ " > www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A> ....click the " Some Basics " button on the welcome page. You'll also find a lot of wonderful & informative posts from Dr. Carolyn Bormann & Saul Pressman. Hope you find all the knowledge you're lookign for! > I just joined this egroup yesterday and I must say that I love it from what I > > have seen. I am curious to know if any practitioners on here have had good > results with H202 or Ozone in the treatment of AIDS. I have some clients who > > don't get really good results and I would like to recommend them to someone > who uses Ozone or H202 in the Philadelphia area. w/peace wes bennett wesbenn@... <A HREF= " http://www.knowledgeisthecure.com/ " >www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A> <A HREF= " http://www.wesbennett.com " >wes bennett photography & design</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Dear Mike, I am no longer directly involved with patients. Instead, I am in contact in a consulting capacity with 117 clinics using my protocols. The question of Acquired Immune Deficiency is complex, since no two people present the same medical histories. There is viral involvement (not HIV), usually Hepatitis of one variety or another. There is poor diet usually and often rampant candida. Not every item listed below is used for every person. The only ones that I feel are mandatory are the liver cleanse, the ozone sauna and aloe vera. Using these techniques, we have had every single person return to work, which I consider a good benchmark for their recovery. The protocol is : Cleansing: - Parasite cleanse - Kidney cleanse - Liver cleanse - Colon cleanse, colonics and coffee enemas - Castor oil packs - Homozon (magnesium peroxide) - Hydrogen peroxide baths - Methylene blue - Essiac Tea or Native Legend Tea - Ozone therapy : steam cabinet; cupping over liver; drinking water Nutrition: - Aloe vera - Garlic and onions, raw - Raw vegetables, especially cabbage, kale, cauliflower, broccoli - Eggs : two soft-boiled daily - Blue-green algae, spirulina, chlorella - Sprouts: sunflower, mung bean - Almonds : raw, unblanched; 6 daily - Flax oil : two oz/day - Coenzyme Q10 : 300 mg/day - Betaine hydrochloride - Digestive enzymes, pancreatin, ox bile tablets - Acidophilus and bifidus NO sugar; coffee; alcohol; tobacco; margarine; fried, canned, or processed foods Vitamins : - Vitamin A + D : halibut liver oil capsules - Vitamin B complex : brewer's yeast - Vitamin B12 : sublingual pellets - IP6 : inositol - Vitamin C : 10 - 40,000 mg /day - Vitamin E : 800 IU /day - Beta-carotene : 15 - 30,000 IU/day - Quercitin Minerals : - Calcium : 500 mg x 3/day - Selenium (2 Brazil nuts /day) - Concentrace colloidal minerals - Germanium - Iron: ferrous succinate or gluconate : 15 - 30 mg/day - Copper : 100 mcg/day - Iodine : 150 - 200 mcg/day - Magnesium : 500 mg x 3/day - Manganese : 15 - 20 mg/day - Chromium : 300 - 500 mcg/day - Zinc picolinate : 50 - 100 mg/day Amino acids : - Glutathione : 150 mg/day - Cysteine : 500 mg/day - N-acetyl cysteine : 4000 mg/day - Methionine : 350 mg/day - Carnitine : 500 mg/day - Arginine : 500 mg/day Herbs : - Milk thistle - Dandelion root - Golden seal - Gingko biloba - Ginseng - Pau d'arco - Chapparal - Astragalus - Licorice - Echinacea augustifolia Other Supplements : - Bee propolis - Lugol (homeopathic iodine) - DMG : dimethyl glycine - MSM Exercise : - Long brisk walks in the park - Tai Chi - Rebounder - Swimming Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh Re: AIDS > Dear Dr Pressman, > > Where is your clinic located? I am new to this group. Also, what exactly does > the treatment for AIDS with Ozone entail? Are you injecting it into the > person, introducing it rectally etc? Does it effectuate a full cure often or > just a good remission? I have recently obtained an excellent book on treating > AIDS homeopathically from www.minimum.com and according to the author he is > getting some very good remissions and some apparent cure but he admits it is > a very intense, hard juggle of remedies to do. There must be a simpler more > consistently effective way. > Has anyone been getting results by taking h202 orally or by Homozon or some > other oral oxy approach? All I know is what I have read in the book Oxidative > Therapies. > > Sincerely, > > Mike > > In a message dated 01/08/2001 6:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, > saul@... writes: > > << Dear Mike, > > We have been treating AIDS with the ozone sauna since 1994. > It is the most effective treatment I have seen, in combination with > a reasonable dietary scheme, usually incorporating aloe vera, and the > various cleanses. > > There was a clinic in Pennsylvania with our equipment, but he has > moved west after considerable persecution from the local brain police. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > >> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Thank you for replying and helping with my question on AIDS.. Mike In a message dated 01/09/2001 2:41:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, wesbenn@... writes: << i Mike, I've used H2O2 ( & deep breathing techniques) in addition to several other therapies for treating hiv/aids. It's important to remember that often when someone has disease, it's evidence that more than one thing is wrong in the care & health of their body. I used a combination therapy of hydrogen peroxide, nutritional supplemtns (including trace minerals), hyperthermia, exercise and low sugar diet. You can read more specifically the methods I used on my website <A HREF= " http://www.knowledgeisthecure.com/ " > www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A> ....click the " Some Basics " button on the welcome page. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 PCR is a blood test for aids. If they are not ozonating the blood supply and reversing Aids then I would question this organization. Dennis Antonia wrote: >>Are they turning people PCR Negative? >> >> > >Hi Dennis, >not sure what PCR means? anyway, this is about more >than drugs, if you want more information, you can go to >http://46664.tiscali.com/ and read about Mandelas' >foundation and the purpose of this event. >Antonia > > >THE NELSON MANDELA FOUNDATION > >The Foundation sees its role as a catalyst. It develops strategic >alliances and partnerships to foster community engagement, community >project-ownership and community benefit. It is not a traditional >grant-making agency. >Initiatives are guided by an advisory group with a diverse range of >members: medics and media, HIV / AIDS victims and managers of >programmes and projects. >The HIV / AIDS strategy is made up of 3 strands: >1. Social mobilisation with an emphasis on leadership > >* 2002: 5 meetings with 950 Traditional Leaders. 158 signed a >charter in united action on AIDS. >* 2003: Assist Department of Health in training Traditional >Leaders to work in communities with HIV / AIDS. >* 2003: Mobilise faith leaders in campaign for HIV / AIDS care >and support. > > >2. Targeted research > >* 2002: The first ever systematic, nationwide, community-based >study of HIV/AIDS in South African households conducted in 2002. >* 2003-8: Generate more accurate information and improve >programme development in the field. > > >3. ACTION: Prevention and treatment through partnerships and projects > >Treatment project in Eastern Cape (Medecins Sans Frontiers) >* Important pilot project aiming to improve understanding and >approaches to treatment in rural areas. >* Located in a rural community that has no access to treatment. >HIV prevention (loveLife) >* Leading national programme for South African youth. >R80 million plan (South African Medical Association) >* Proposition to provide anti-retrovirals to patients who can't >afford drugs. >Eminent Person's Group >* People from all walks of life invited by Mandela to stand >with him on the HIV / AIDS issue. > > " People tend to believe Mr Mandela and act on his words. He is a sign >of hope to Traditional leaders who are burying their people every >weekend. " >(Prince Mavuso, co-ordinator of the Eastern Cape Traditional Leaders >HIV / AIDS Forum) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 >PCR is a blood test for aids. > >If they are not ozonating the blood supply and reversing Aids then I >would question this organization. Hi Dennis, this is a lot about education and prevention of Aids, not just the treatment., Antonia -- Antonia Breakthrough Coaching http://www.Body-dynamics.com 920-868-9599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 >> Are they turning people PCR Negative? > Hi Dennis, > not sure what PCR means? anyway, this is about more > than drugs, if you want more information, you can go to > http://46664.tiscali.com/ and read about Mandelas' > foundation and the purpose of this event. > Antonia > > > THE NELSON MANDELA FOUNDATION > > The Foundation sees its role as a catalyst. It develops strategic > alliances and partnerships to foster community engagement, community > project-ownership and community benefit. It is not a traditional > grant-making agency. > Initiatives are guided by an advisory group with a diverse range of > members: medics and media, HIV / AIDS victims and managers of > programmes and projects. > The HIV / AIDS strategy is made up of 3 strands: Well, since HIV doesn't cause AIDS (and is, in fact, a non-existent 'virus'), this foundation probably isn't gonna be helping many people... Making people 'aware' does not include fostering fraud and extortion against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 If HIV doesn't exist, why were you on this list? Just wondering, in my own confusion! Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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