Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I am not disabled from HIV or AIDS. I am just disabled and have been for over 10 years. Now I learn a lot of other guys are too. It seams to be quite the thing today. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too.... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I do not and would not rape " mother liberty " . Father time is another issue. Guys I am gay. Lady liberty is quite safe with me. She is not safe with those Republicans in office. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too.... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 DOUG MAN,  I would still love to know why you're in this group. If you're just so lonely that even negative attention is something you crave, then it's much easier for me to find that place in myself that is loving towards you. It's almost as if you're paid to be here by a pharmaceutical company. Why on earth would you come to this list serve to promote HAART? Because you care deeply for others? Surely not...   From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:59 PM Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely  I do not and would not rape " mother liberty " . Father time is another issue. Guys I am gay. Lady liberty is quite safe with me. She is not safe with those Republicans in office. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too.... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I am touched. Believe it or not, I am in this group because I care about people with AIDS no matter how misguided they are. Yes, this includes you and Don and others too. The AIDS community has been very challenging for me where I live. I have just about given up on them. I remember when the White fund came up for renewal. Bayer was asked about funding for people with AIDS. After he made a disparaging face, all he could say is " forget about people with AIDS " . I half agree with him. They have been nothing but a disappointment, to put it nicely. In fact they don't even know when someone is working for them or against them. Believe it or not there are guys in this group that take HART and depend on HAART. You may not be one of them but several have privately e mailed me. Always remember, we must fight AIDS, not people with AIDS. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too..... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 One thing i don't have is AIDS. AIDS is what transcends when infected with the HIV virus according to medical standards. So don't be calling out everybody on here by having AIDS. Second of all if you truly cared you'd look at all the evidence that has been laid out on the table. But I'm not going to change your mind. You do sound like someone who works for a pharmaceutical company. Stubborn and ignorants as hell!! not to mention using people like Karri and as examples when it was medications that truly killed them. Randall, well done for remaining med free. There is now real hope out there in the form of GcMaf, this is a natural substance that is sold by www.GcMaf.....eu. Contact person is Noakes. Best Wishes ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 10:31:17 AM Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely Oh my gosh, this news just breaks my heart. I had been following Karri for a while. This just confirms to me that HIV is real and it's no joke. So many dissidents have passed on and it's just hitting me more and more. Don, while you mean well about your alternative treatment approach, the truth is that the majority of people aren't going to put forth such effort and time to research and try different alternative options when they constantly hear that you can take a pill or a few pills and be ok as long as you monitor your labs. Facing Karri's death and 's death a few years ago just confronts me with my own fate since I too have been diagnosed with this same killer virus. Five years later, I still look great and am in great health except for dental issues that has caused me chronic upper respiratory problems long before I was diagnosed HIV positive. I am a stubborn one when it comes to making that move to take HIV drugs. Just last night I saw a guy who I know had been literally deformed by those drugs that he has taken for so many years. Yet he is alive and walking around looking like the living dead. I'm sorry, I'd rather die early than look like that. I know the HIV drugs did that to him. I've seen people who were poz less years than me and they started ARVs and now they have lipo in the face and their skin looks so thin you could see their veins. My face is full and my body has good weight. I am not embarrassed to go outside or to the store. I take colloidal silver daily and get antioxidants from green tea. I also take a daily multivitamin and take a daily probiotic. It has to help some- but for how long, time will tell. If HIV kills without the help of ARVs then I will end up dying early too unless they can assure me that those drugs will not physically deform me like so many I have seen. It just breaks my heart. No one should look like alot of the people I've seen. May Karri Stokely rest in peace. I am so saddened to hear this. Randall ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 8:57 PM Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too..... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'm not going to change your mind either. So lets leave it at that. I do detect a little paranoia here. A pharmaceutical company would not be bothered with a little group like this. It is not worth their while. They especially would not pay someone to E mail in a group like this. They want to go for the big boys in Washington D.C. that is where the money is, not here. Sorry. It was a nice try though. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too...... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 DOUG MAN,  If there are others in this group who are on HAART, more power to them; at least they aren't on the list bragging about their free meds and suggesting others get on the same ride to slavery. However, we're here to talk about alternatives. And every chance you get, you come in with your silly scare tactics. And paranoid? YES. Anyone who refuses traditional treatment should be paranoid; after all those in charge can't afford to see anyone with HIV/AIDS living a normal life without the meds. It would undermine their efforts. And to refer to me as misguided is typical of someone who sits at home and collects a check for doing nothing. You are the system. With lovely folks like you, the system will be protected, defended and strengthened in the years to come. I'm sick of you, DOUG. I haven't learned a fucking thing from you EVER and I'm tired of listening to your shit. If I wanted to hear opinions like yours, I would sign up for POZ.COM. I'm out of here. Good luck to everyone out there who is looking for a better way of life; seek and ye shall find.  Peace. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:40 PM Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely  I'm not going to change your mind either. So lets leave it at that. I do detect a little paranoia here. A pharmaceutical company would not be bothered with a little group like this. It is not worth their while. They especially would not pay someone to E mail in a group like this. They want to go for the big boys in Washington D.C. that is where the money is, not here. Sorry. It was a nice try though. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too...... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 My. My. there is no reason for you to leave the group. In fact, I do not believe you are going to leave the group. How would you sell your colloidal silver? Is this group only for alternative treatments? It sounds more like all methods to cure AIDS. Why do you limit yourself only to alternative treatments? You should be using EVERYTHING you can. I do not just sit home and collect a check for doing nothing. I E mail you and try to have informative discourse with you. Although you do make it difficult. Most PWA'S are difficult that is why I stopped hiring them. I think it has to do with the stress of having the virus and mental illness that goes along with this virus. As for you raving, we are all the system whether we like it or not, this includes you. Who are you kidding, not me. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely http://www.youtube..com/watch?v=5sL7d8qwCKQ How is everybody, things have been quite around here. I hope everybody is doing well. Well last week we lost a very important person in our battle. It just broke my heart to hear the passing of Karri. She was inspiration to me and one who really made me rethink all this HIV/AIDS mess and help me take control. I posted a video on her a while back. Please keep her family in your prayers and don't get discouraged. Karri had a lot of complications due to the damage that the ARV's did to her. Like she mentioned in this video she was denied medical health because of her status. Don't let the assholes from AIDSTruth brain wash you has they are going to be happy to add her name to the " List of Dead AIDS Dissidents " they have very few names, very few names they like to have float around. Yet if we made a list of all the people who have died taking ARV's we would NEVER finish!!! So to Hell with them!! I plan to talk to her husband once he has the strength to talk. It also important to know the difference between being a dissident and a straight up DENIALIST! Being a Denialist I think is even worse!! When I spoke to the organization called HEAL in New York they tried to convince me there was no such thing as an immune system! STRAIGHT UP LIE!! They go around telling people who are HIV positive to just not do a damn thing!! My friend Emery died of Kompsi Sarcoma. He even went on youtube laughing about his white blood count being low. You can't do that people!! Yes viral load tests and HIV tests are unreliable but don't ignore your lab results that do mean something!! I wish he would have seeked treatment!! If any of you have any health concerns let me know!! Chlorophyll will raise your red blood cells naturally, Astragalus will raise your white blood cells naturally too....... There is a natural remedy for many things. if that doesn't work well then go to the doctor!! i have nothing against pharmaceutical drugs just DON'T TAKE THEM FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!! Once again, please pray for Karri's family in this time of need. Remember her cause and everything she stood for. Don't be fooled by the idiots she tried so hard to fight or the idiots that refused to help he because of her status. I love each and everyone of you guys here. -DonJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yes, there is a better way and some of us pursue our own paths. If one wants to take strong and harmful drugs for the rest of one's life, then that is one's choice. Be that as it may, many of us have escaped from the AIDS trap and have found other means to stay healthy to include supplements, good eating and health habits, low dose naltrexone, etc. It is difficult to break away from what the mainstream has drilled into one's brain. Like the website, " We are Living Proof " it can be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Very good point Noreen, it's all about doing what you have to do. I see people on drugs all the time. I try to reach out to them and tell them they do have a choice but many are too scared. Then they listen to people like Doug man who is just sarcastic and stupid and offers no explanation to back his claims to no explanations to debunk any proof we have presented. But I wish those people the best of luck. They're going to keep on suffering because it's the meds that make them sick From: livingwithouthivmeds <noreenelaine@...> Subject: Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely cures for AIDS Date: Friday, May 13, 2011, 5:26 AM  Yes, there is a better way and some of us pursue our own paths. If one wants to take strong and harmful drugs for the rest of one's life, then that is one's choice. Be that as it may, many of us have escaped from the AIDS trap and have found other means to stay healthy to include supplements, good eating and health habits, low dose naltrexone, etc. It is difficult to break away from what the mainstream has drilled into one's brain. Like the website, " We are Living Proof " it can be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Don , I forgot to add that some who have contacted me over the years, do not want help or they want to argue about the drugs. Many of them were living in fear. Sometimes I told them to stay on their medications because they were so fearful to come off of them, I knew that fear was a more potent enemy. Rarely, do I advise people individually, as it was wearing me down. It is difficult to break away but one will be much happier to go one way or the others, as sitting on the fence will make one nuts! If one is not strong-willed, then I do not feel that one should come off their meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I think almost all those living with HIV are living in fear. It is not just those afraid to come off the meds, although that is part of it. Having HIV alone is the greater fear than coming off of the meds. Re: In Loving Memory of Karri Stokely Don , I forgot to add that some who have contacted me over the years, do not want help or they want to argue about the drugs. Many of them were living in fear. Sometimes I told them to stay on their medications because they were so fearful to come off of them, I knew that fear was a more potent enemy. Rarely, do I advise people individually, as it was wearing me down. It is difficult to break away but one will be much happier to go one way or the others, as sitting on the fence will make one nuts! If one is not strong-willed, then I do not feel that one should come off their meds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1500/3637 - Release Date: 05/14/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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