Re: patent for Tetrasilver

[Guest guest]

Hi  I am Rodney  and I have pretty much gone down the same route as you

looking for a cure for hiv....my wifes brother in Uganda had hiv so I thought I

would do research and find something to fix it...anyway I found this stuff about

tetrasilver and like you found this comes to a dead end apart from the ointment

that I actually bought once.  Anyway I was on the right path...anyone worth

there salt should know the two biggest enemies of a virus is silver and

oxygen...well this lead me on to Bionaid which has nanosilver and loads of

oxygen atoms bonded to silver..this is in no way colloidial silver..long story

short went to Kampala and gave Mustapha 10 small bottles of Bionaid and over a

month or two the recovery he made was just incredible....everyone wanted to know

what he had done..all he said was the muzingo..white man with his magic water !

Regards tetrasilver....I would say this is no more powerfull than the Bionaid

silver hydrosol and you would need to inject a hell of a lot to keep up with how

much you can actually drink of Bionaid..so tetrasiver a cure..maybe if you were

on a drip of the stuff but the odd injection , unlikeley.

The bionaid has morphed over the last 4 years I have been involved to the stage

they have bonded the nanosilver with ozone...stable.ozone in a bottle is new

tech as normally it would dissapate in a few hours.

I have been beating this drum on this forum for a few months but no one seems

particularly interested in what I have to say...anyway I do know a kinesiologist

that has cured hiv even without the oxygen/ silver products using a sota mag

pulser along with energy corrections and not much more so if you are afflicted I

would combine these 3 very powerfull modalities and see where it takes you....I

set out knowing I would find a cure for this problem 

or as good as damn a cure and I am satisfied by what I have found..believe me

there is nothing that cant be cured its all bullshit they tell you

Rodney

From: <fltugger@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011, 5:21

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and I

read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived biological

weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into general use as

a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get it? Also, most

info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this really a cure,

and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it before a patent was

granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me that very little

information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed by

the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

[Guest guest]

Hi Rodney

I would like to try Bionaid and I'm in South Africa. Could you tell me where to

get it or help me with it.

Ivy

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and I

read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived biological

weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into general use as

a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get it? Also, most

info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this really a cure,

and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it before a patent was

granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me that very little

information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed by

the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

[Guest guest]

Tetrasilver was available for sale online. Don't know if it still is. Many

things are given patents which may nor may not work. If one is placing their

hopes in it, then one must be believing in HIV, a harmless retrovirus.

Personally, I think that everyone would do better to stay healthy and only take

medicines when needed. Many of us are doing this and are fine.

Years ago, I spoke to Dr. Boyd on the phone. He was really into the government

and I guess you could call it population control. One can find the chart

on-line. Not saying that the government isn't capable of this via vaccinations,

chemtrails, etc. I just fine the actual AIDS cases in America is way too low to

believe that HIV fits that bill.

[Guest guest]

Well as far as a a cure, you have to figure out what made you get the positive

reaction in the first place.  Remember the HIV tests are not specific to the

virus.  According to a lab tech I have spoken to on facebook.  Many people in

Switzerland test HIV positive then a few months later will test negative after

they take Colloidal silver or do oxygen therapies.  I do believe Dr. Luc

Montangier (Who discovered the virus before the idiot Gallo tried to

steal the concept) that HIV is curable.  Many members in here might have

another immune problem that is where you have to take it upon yourself to treat

it.  The common flu to a vaccine can trigger you to get an " HIV POSITIVE "

response.  Right now the strongest thing out in the market is something called

Silver Shield.   It is 10,000 times strong thatn colloidal silver.  The

military has been testing it and so far there hasn't been a virus it doesn't

kill.  It's the best way to combat

cancer.  So just detox first of all, take all natural immune boosters and just

have faith. 

From: livingwithouthivmeds <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:23 AM

 

Tetrasilver was available for sale online. Don't know if it still is. Many

things are given patents which may nor may not work. If one is placing their

hopes in it, then one must be believing in HIV, a harmless retrovirus.

Personally, I think that everyone would do better to stay healthy and only take

medicines when needed. Many of us are doing this and are fine.

Years ago, I spoke to Dr. Boyd on the phone. He was really into the government

and I guess you could call it population control. One can find the chart

on-line. Not saying that the government isn't capable of this via vaccinations,

chemtrails, etc. I just fine the actual AIDS cases in America is way too low to

believe that HIV fits that bill.

[Guest guest]

Rodney,

 

As Celia Farber said, AIDS is one thing in Greenwich Village and something

completely different in Campala, Uganda.  In America, perfectly healthy people

go on meds to prevent the very thing the meds cause.  It's crazy.  In

Africa, there is no need for a blood test.  Nurses, doctors and AIDS workers

can diagnose AIDS just by looking at someone.  So, if a very sick person is

seemingly healed, then everyone is in agreement that the treatment was

effective against a deadly retrovirus.  In America, we are obsessed with lab

work and numbers that are supposed to mean something.  Your Bionaid may be just

as effective as any oxygen/silver treatment.  But unless it totally eradicates

the proteins that register on the HIV tests, then people aren't all that

interested.  The doctors, nurses and health care workers in the U.S. all work

to convince the HIV patient that they must live and die by the bloodwork.  It's

like we've just thrown common sense

out the window...

 

.

 

From: Rodney Gove <rg781961@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:05 AM

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi  I am Rodney  and I have pretty much gone down the same route as you

looking for a cure for hiv....my wifes brother in Uganda had hiv so I thought I

would do research and find something to fix it...anyway I found this stuff about

tetrasilver and like you found this comes to a dead end apart from the ointment

that I actually bought once.  Anyway I was on the right path...anyone worth

there salt should know the two biggest enemies of a virus is silver and

oxygen...well this lead me on to Bionaid which has nanosilver and loads of

oxygen atoms bonded to silver..this is in no way colloidial silver..long story

short went to Kampala and gave Mustapha 10 small bottles of Bionaid and over a

month or two the recovery he made was just incredible....everyone wanted to know

what he had done..all he said was the muzingo..white man with his magic water !

Regards tetrasilver....I would say this is no more powerfull than the Bionaid

silver hydrosol and you would need to inject a hell of a lot to keep up with how

much you can actually drink of Bionaid..so tetrasiver a cure..maybe if you were

on a drip of the stuff but the odd injection , unlikeley.

The bionaid has morphed over the last 4 years I have been involved to the stage

they have bonded the nanosilver with ozone...stable.ozone in a bottle is new

tech as normally it would dissapate in a few hours.

I have been beating this drum on this forum for a few months but no one seems

particularly interested in what I have to say...anyway I do know a kinesiologist

that has cured hiv even without the oxygen/ silver products using a sota mag

pulser along with energy corrections and not much more so if you are afflicted I

would combine these 3 very powerfull modalities and see where it takes you....I

set out knowing I would find a cure for this problem 

or as good as damn a cure and I am satisfied by what I have found..believe me

there is nothing that cant be cured its all bullshit they tell you

Rodney

From: <fltugger@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011, 5:21

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and I

read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived biological

weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into general use as

a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get it? Also, most

info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this really a cure,

and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it before a patent was

granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me that very little

information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed by

the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have not heard about this but around 9 years ago I read of a cure med made and

use in trial in Africa and it worked, but never heard about it again, some one

said there is not money on the cure, the money is keeping the disease.

Eva

________________________________

From: <fltugger@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 12:21:35 AM

Subject: patent for Tetrasilver

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and

I read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived

biological weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into

general use as a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get

it? Also, most info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this

really a cure, and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it

before a patent was granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me

that very little information about it seems to exist on the internet. Does this

mean that it has been suppressed by the government, and if so, why did they

issue a patent for it in the first place? Thanks for any info.

[Guest guest]

Yes , we have experienced people getting better but their cd4,s going down

instead of up and this confuses the hell out of them.  I have come to

understand through Dons posts that this should not be viewed as a problem as the

cd4 should really be in the marrow and it is only out and about in the blood if

there is work to do there.  As you say if you look better and feel better and

can get back to your work like my brother in law then theres no point in being

obsessed by blood readings.  Incidentally we estimated Bionaid to be 60 000

stronger than colloidial silver so that makes us 5 x better than the " best on

the market " and that estimate was before we upgraded the product by bonding the

ozone to the nano silver...yee ha !

Rodney

From: <luvtheozone@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011, 14:26

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Rodney,

 

As Celia Farber said, AIDS is one thing in Greenwich Village and something

completely different in Campala, Uganda.  In America, perfectly healthy people

go on meds to prevent the very thing the meds cause.  It's crazy.  In

Africa, there is no need for a blood test.  Nurses, doctors and AIDS workers

can diagnose AIDS just by looking at someone.  So, if a very sick person is

seemingly healed, then everyone is in agreement that the treatment was

effective against a deadly retrovirus.  In America, we are obsessed with lab

work and numbers that are supposed to mean something.  Your Bionaid may be just

as effective as any oxygen/silver treatment.  But unless it totally eradicates

the proteins that register on the HIV tests, then people aren't all that

interested.  The doctors, nurses and health care workers in the U.S. all work

to convince the HIV patient that they must live and die by the bloodwork.  It's

like we've just thrown common sense

out the window...

 

.

 

From: Rodney Gove <rg781961@...>

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:05 AM

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi  I am Rodney  and I have pretty much gone down the same route as you

looking for a cure for hiv....my wifes brother in Uganda had hiv so I thought I

would do research and find something to fix it...anyway I found this stuff about

tetrasilver and like you found this comes to a dead end apart from the ointment

that I actually bought once.  Anyway I was on the right path...anyone worth

there salt should know the two biggest enemies of a virus is silver and

oxygen...well this lead me on to Bionaid which has nanosilver and loads of

oxygen atoms bonded to silver..this is in no way colloidial silver..long story

short went to Kampala and gave Mustapha 10 small bottles of Bionaid and over a

month or two the recovery he made was just incredible....everyone wanted to know

what he had done..all he said was the muzingo..white man with his magic water !

Regards tetrasilver....I would say this is no more powerfull than the Bionaid

silver hydrosol and you would need to inject a hell of a lot to keep up with how

much you can actually drink of Bionaid..so tetrasiver a cure..maybe if you were

on a drip of the stuff but the odd injection , unlikeley.

The bionaid has morphed over the last 4 years I have been involved to the stage

they have bonded the nanosilver with ozone...stable.ozone in a bottle is new

tech as normally it would dissapate in a few hours.

I have been beating this drum on this forum for a few months but no one seems

particularly interested in what I have to say...anyway I do know a kinesiologist

that has cured hiv even without the oxygen/ silver products using a sota mag

pulser along with energy corrections and not much more so if you are afflicted I

would combine these 3 very powerfull modalities and see where it takes you....I

set out knowing I would find a cure for this problem 

or as good as damn a cure and I am satisfied by what I have found..believe me

there is nothing that cant be cured its all bullshit they tell you

Rodney

From: <fltugger@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011, 5:21

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and I

read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived biological

weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into general use as

a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get it? Also, most

info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this really a cure,

and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it before a patent was

granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me that very little

information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed by

the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

 

[Guest guest]

Hey guys,

You are all right as i had initially gone down this path with Ag4O4,

TetraSilver, imusil (liquid form), invented by an Israeli, and Marantech was the

USA holding company that manufactures the product. Just in case you do not know

this is also a pool chemical that is used to kill black algae, but it is very

hard to find in the pool supply places. I think i have actually used this many

years ago taking care of the pool at home. I was one of the people that had

pushed Marantech to do more, but the reason they took their web site off line

which i have a copy of is because i had told people to go to Marantech. They

were overwhelmed with calls and could not help anyone beyond knowing the ability

of the product. The problem that prevents this from being available in the form

for getting the pure injection in the buffered solution in an IV drip is the

lack of millions of dollars that it takes to get a drug passed through testing

and the FDA. Of course there is also the drug companies that have a say here

too as it would put their products out of business and they would no longer have

a repeat customer for their expensive drugs. Any potential solution will always

be squelched due to the pharmaceuticals needing recurring patients for their

pills and killer products. We are just a pawn in a huge pie that is controlled

by the government and the lobbyist. I have included some good resources about

the product and of course purchasing tetrasil directly which is great for

topical applications and it works too. I know this may not put imusil in an

available solution to help you kill the virus or for that matter any cancer, but

it is a help in the right direction. Before i forget, BIONAID is AgO3 so a

different form of silver and oxygen, which is added to water that i guess you

can drink. Not sure though how permanent a fix this is compared to imusil.

Although BIONAID may be expensive, at $125 for one 8oz bottle, but if it works

it is a great buy. I would need to ask a few questions about it which are not

answered on the website. Keep up the good work and discussion.

http://www.aidanceproducts.com/products.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFDMztIfIU

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12507960/Method-of-Curing-AIDS-With-Tetra-Silver-Tetro\

xide-Molecular-Crystal-Devices

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1394

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Starting/Q154827.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg & forum=222 & \

topic_id=35410 & mesg_id=35771

http://www.rexresearch.com/antelman/silverox.htm

http://howtomaketetrasilvertetroxide.com/uncategorized/tetrasilver-tetroxide-dat\

a-sheets/

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t & source=web & cd=30 & ved=0CFUQFjAJOBQ & url=http%3A%2F%\

2Fcurezone.org%2Fforums%2Fm.asp%3Ff%3D3%26i%3D348 & rct=j & q=tetrasilver & ei=1xemTZe\

kL4X6sAPVl8j6DA & usg=AFQjCNEY95SxDrLEtWZinSe3S_KQRHaVig & cad=rja

Hope to hear from you soon,

Respectfully,

Randy Van Heusden

randysvh2@...

=======================

Re: patent for Tetrasilver

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the

archives. There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus,

patent #5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for

the company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references

to it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used

to alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection,

and I read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived

biological weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into

general use as a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get

it? Also, most info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this

really a cure, and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it

before a patent was granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me

that very little information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed

by the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Randy, thanks for the lowdown on Tetrasilver/Marantech...I am a Bionaid

distributor in Uk and Africa and first of all I can sell you a bottle of bionaid

for US30.00 so if anyone is pushing at 125 dont pay it..I think you can get it

from the US site for around 50.

This has been the only post for a while and right up my street..before we all go

off lamenting on the dissapearance of tetrasilver lets make a direct comparison

with Bionaid....Ag4O4  against AgO3 Now point 1 Bionaid is 6ppm

Nanosilver...does Tetrasilver have nanosilver, if not it cannot penetrate the

cell wall and can exist only in the blood stream.  Point 2 now I only have high

school chemistry but can you imagine there being a great deal of difference in

what these two compounds can achieve..we have silver bonded to oxygen in a

slightly different ratio..what  difference should that make..the only

difference is probably related to the advantages of nano silver so if

Tetrasilver is not nano particle then its one up to Bionaid, and if it has then

I would say equal..ish. Surely we are talking about quantity of product that we

can get to the problem, with Bionaid you can drink as much as you like or stand

in terms of detox..how long can you walk around

with a drip hanging out of your arm to get Tetrasilver in your body.  What

oxygen and silver do is they steal electrons from virus and in a sense

electrocute them so in my eyes one oxygen atom is as good as another as long as

it carries the right charge.  Further to the chemical composition to Bionaid

there is the added benefit in the water carrier it is in ..with apparently

millions of fractal encoded waveforms that I would recommend getting on to the

main website to explain what all that does . It,s a bit like having a 10 year

old computer in your house, what you dont have one well imagine how far all this

nutritional science has come since tetrasilver hit the buffers.

You also mentioned the FDA and R & D taking millions of $ and years to get

approval, we dont even go down that road on this forum, , we are not going to

hang around for them to save us all !!   To cure anything you really have to

go natural and you dont usually need a licence for that....(ironically you do

now for Silver products !)

 Silver has moved on a bit since the colloidial silver days where it can be

toxic to the system.  In Europe products like colloidial silver and Bionaid are

now banned as are all silver products unless its a pharma product due to their

supposed toxicity to the water / sea etc.

Similar to Bionaid you have Oxysilver by Lenny Horowitz..they were once great

friends {Lenny and Elder Burk Hale|} and now great rivals...also stuff like

Cellfood /Oxygen elements max and Magnesium peroxide tablets are all great ways

of putting your oxygen levels through the roof.  One other road to go down is

the the use of a vortex energiser for your drinking water.  I cant recommend

one as I have not used one yet but I am aiming to get a few of these and test

them against each other using Kinesiology. 

 

I have also been learning Kinesiology , the particular branch is Health

Kinesiology, believe me this an awesome leap forward in health management ,

similar to accupuncture in the use of meridian points for energy

corrections.  The most amazing thing is the way you can download any

information from your mind and body through simple muscle testing and shape that

to get you moving in the right direction.  It seems that we may have the best

nutritional products and gadgets like pulsers but it is also essential that we

address energy blockages that my be hindering our progress.  For instance last

year I had bronchitis and my Harley Street consultant in London was able to

fine tune my nutritional program through musle testing, i.e. 1/4 bottle bionaid

a day 1 hr mag pulsing,,11 applications of immune homeopathic spray..how many

days..how many weeks etc honestly this is as good as it is ever going to get

unless you had Jesus Christ standing there saying

you had this and that wrong with you and writing you a prescription.

Rodney

 

 

From: randy van heusden <randysvh2@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011, 23:11

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

 

Hey guys,

You are all right as i had initially gone down this path with Ag4O4,

TetraSilver, imusil (liquid form), invented by an Israeli, and Marantech was the

USA holding company that manufactures the product. Just in case you do not know

this is also a pool chemical that is used to kill black algae, but it is very

hard to find in the pool supply places. I think i have actually used this many

years ago taking care of the pool at home. I was one of the people that had

pushed Marantech to do more, but the reason they took their web site off line

which i have a copy of is because i had told people to go to Marantech. They

were overwhelmed with calls and could not help anyone beyond knowing the ability

of the product. The problem that prevents this from being available in the form

for getting the pure injection in the buffered solution in an IV drip is the

lack of millions of dollars that it takes to get a drug passed through testing

and the FDA. Of course there is

also the drug companies that have a say here too as it would put their products

out of business and they would no longer have a repeat customer for their

expensive drugs. Any potential solution will always be squelched due to the

pharmaceuticals needing recurring patients for their pills and killer products.

We are just a pawn in a huge pie that is controlled by the government and the

lobbyist. I have included some good resources about the product and of course

purchasing tetrasil directly which is great for topical applications and it

works too. I know this may not put imusil in an available solution to help you

kill the virus or for that matter any cancer, but it is a help in the right

direction. Before i forget, BIONAID is AgO3 so a different form of silver and

oxygen, which is added to water that i guess you can drink. Not sure though how

permanent a fix this is compared to imusil. Although BIONAID may be expensive,

at $125 for one 8oz bottle, but

if it works it is a great buy. I would need to ask a few questions about it

which are not answered on the website. Keep up the good work and discussion.

http://www.aidanceproducts.com/products.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFDMztIfIU

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12507960/Method-of-Curing-AIDS-With-Tetra-Silver-Tetro\

xide-Molecular-Crystal-Devices

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1394

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Starting/Q154827.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg & forum=222 & \

topic_id=35410 & mesg_id=35771

http://www.rexresearch.com/antelman/silverox.htm

http://howtomaketetrasilvertetroxide.com/uncategorized/tetrasilver-tetroxide-dat\

a-sheets/

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t & source=web & cd=30 & ved=0CFUQFjAJOBQ & url=http%3A%2F%\

2Fcurezone.org%2Fforums%2Fm.asp%3Ff%3D3%26i%3D348 & rct=j & q=tetrasilver & ei=1xemTZe\

kL4X6sAPVl8j6DA & usg=AFQjCNEY95SxDrLEtWZinSe3S_KQRHaVig & cad=rja

Hope to hear from you soon,

Respectfully,

Randy Van Heusden

randysvh2@...

=======================

Re: patent for Tetrasilver

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the archives.

There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus, patent

#5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for the

company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references to

it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used to

alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection, and I

read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived biological

weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into general use as

a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get it? Also, most

info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this really a cure,

and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it before a patent was

granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me that very little

information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed by

the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

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Randy,

I understand what you're saying about it taking millions of dollars to get a

drug tested and approved by the FDA, but one of my original questions remains

unanswered.  Please excuse my lack of understanding because I'm not familiar

with the patent process, but the question remains that if this is something that

was patented as a cure for AIDS, wouldn't that mean the FDA would consider it a

drug and it would need their approval?  Or is it that a patent has nothing to

do with assuring the reliability of a product, even if it is a medicine?

From: randy van heusden <randysvh2@...>

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 6:11 PM

 

Hey guys,

You are all right as i had initially gone down this path with Ag4O4,

TetraSilver, imusil (liquid form), invented by an Israeli, and Marantech was the

USA holding company that manufactures the product. Just in case you do not know

this is also a pool chemical that is used to kill black algae, but it is very

hard to find in the pool supply places. I think i have actually used this many

years ago taking care of the pool at home. I was one of the people that had

pushed Marantech to do more, but the reason they took their web site off line

which i have a copy of is because i had told people to go to Marantech. They

were overwhelmed with calls and could not help anyone beyond knowing the ability

of the product. The problem that prevents this from being available in the form

for getting the pure injection in the buffered solution in an IV drip is the

lack of millions of dollars that it takes to get a drug passed through testing

and the FDA. Of course

there is also the drug companies that have a say here too as it would put their

products out of business and they would no longer have a repeat customer for

their expensive drugs. Any potential solution will always be squelched due to

the pharmaceuticals needing recurring patients for their pills and killer

products. We are just a pawn in a huge pie that is controlled by the government

and the lobbyist. I have included some good resources about the product and of

course purchasing tetrasil directly which is great for topical applications and

it works too. I know this may not put imusil in an available solution to help

you kill the virus or for that matter any cancer, but it is a help in the right

direction. Before i forget, BIONAID is AgO3 so a different form of silver and

oxygen, which is added to water that i guess you can drink. Not sure though how

permanent a fix this is compared to imusil. Although BIONAID may be expensive,

at $125 for one

8oz bottle, but if it works it is a great buy. I would need to ask a few

questions about it which are not answered on the website. Keep up the good work

and discussion.

http://www.aidanceproducts.com/products.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFDMztIfIU

http://www.scribd.com/doc/12507960/Method-of-Curing-AIDS-With-Tetra-Silver-Tetro\

xide-Molecular-Crystal-Devices

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1394

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Starting/Q154827.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg & forum=222 & \

topic_id=35410 & mesg_id=35771

http://www.rexresearch.com/antelman/silverox.htm

http://howtomaketetrasilvertetroxide.com/uncategorized/tetrasilver-tetroxide-dat\

a-sheets/

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t & source=web & cd=30 & ved=0CFUQFjAJOBQ & url=http%3A%2F%\

2Fcurezone.org%2Fforums%2Fm.asp%3Ff%3D3%26i%3D348 & rct=j & q=tetrasilver & ei=1xemTZe\

kL4X6sAPVl8j6DA & usg=AFQjCNEY95SxDrLEtWZinSe3S_KQRHaVig & cad=rja

Hope to hear from you soon,

Respectfully,

Randy Van Heusden

randysvh2@...

=======================

Re: patent for Tetrasilver

Hi everyone,

This might have been discussed awhile back, but I can't find it in the

archives. There was a U.S. patent in 1997 for the cure of the " AIDS " virus,

patent #5,676,977. Does anyone know anything about this? All searches I do for

the company that marketed it, Marantech, only come up with old remote references

to it, and all I can find out about Tetrasilver is that it is an ointment used

to alleviate skin problems. The original patent was for a one-time injection,

and I read that a Dr. Boyd Graves of the controversial government-contrived

biological weapon theory had been given it. Does anyone know if it got into

general use as a one-time injection and if so, how many people were able to get

it? Also, most info about Boyd Graves seems to have been suppressed. Was this

really a cure, and if so, wouldn't the FDA have had to test and approve it

before a patent was granted? Whether or not it really worked, it seems to me

that very little information about it

seems to exist on the internet. Does this mean that it has been suppressed

by the government, and if so, why did they issue a patent for it in the first

place? Thanks for any info.

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Hi guys,

Does anybody know of any studies in the U.S. or know of personal cases where

people have tested positive, then after strengthening their immune system, got

tested again and then were negative?  This would be another justification for

how screwed up orthodox medicine is, and the unreliability of the HIV tests.  I

know they're not actually testing for HIV, just proteins that cross react with

what they think is HIV, and that there are soooo many things that can cause a

positive reaction on the test.  I personally believe mine was due to a gamma

globulin shot I received due to a food service employee where I worked at the

time having been found to have hepatitis.  Whether or not you believe in HIV,

there is something or a combination of things out there wrecking our immune

system, and once you get an HIV-positive diagnosis, it is with you for life, and

as you all know, has serious life-changing ramifications.  I would love to hear

from anybody that

knows of anyone reverting to sero-negative status, other than those who might

have been a false positive in the first place.

From: livingwithouthivmeds <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:23 AM

 

Tetrasilver was available for sale online. Don't know if it still is. Many

things are given patents which may nor may not work. If one is placing their

hopes in it, then one must be believing in HIV, a harmless retrovirus.

Personally, I think that everyone would do better to stay healthy and only take

medicines when needed. Many of us are doing this and are fine.

Years ago, I spoke to Dr. Boyd on the phone. He was really into the government

and I guess you could call it population control. One can find the chart

on-line. Not saying that the government isn't capable of this via vaccinations,

chemtrails, etc. I just fine the actual AIDS cases in America is way too low to

believe that HIV fits that bill.

[Guest guest]

Take it from somebody who worked in Clinical Research and very close with the

FDA, no clinical trials, pharmaceutical company or the FDA have good

intentions.  Some of the people who work in that field may have good intentions

by may be misled but other than that there are going to be no official trials as

such.  If certain scientist do take it upon themselves to test methods or

various drugs they don't get credited and get ignored by the mainstream and by

medical journals.  As far as what you said about the " serious life-changing

ramifications " you mentioned I disagree.  First of all that shot you took was

not good for your body and those shots and vaccines will cause you to get a

positive reaction on an HIV test.  Vaccines are loaded with Viral properties

and Mercury to give your body the antibody to combat what the vaccine is for. 

If you have an immune problem an HIV test can not specify if it truly is HIV. 

No test out there is specific for

the virus.  And even if you do have HIV if goes away if a few weeks.  Now

don't listen to me, I'm not the discoverer of HIV nor am I a Nobel prize winner

but Dr, Luc Montangier is, and listen for yourself on what he has to say....

From: livingwithouthivmeds <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: patent for Tetrasilver

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2011, 6:23 AM

 

Tetrasilver was available for sale online. Don't know if it still is. Many

things are given patents which may nor may not work. If one is placing their

hopes in it, then one must be believing in HIV, a harmless retrovirus.

Personally, I think that everyone would do better to stay healthy and only take

medicines when needed. Many of us are doing this and are fine.

Years ago, I spoke to Dr. Boyd on the phone. He was really into the government

and I guess you could call it population control. One can find the chart

on-line. Not saying that the government isn't capable of this via vaccinations,

chemtrails, etc. I just fine the actual AIDS cases in America is way too low to

believe that HIV fits that bill.