Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Who are the dissidents? WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 God Bless you for sharing this Randall. From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> Subject: WOWZERS! " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 9:49 PM  Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! "  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related   So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care.   Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 The people who think with their heads and urge others to do the same and not buy into the BS system that wants to keep people sick and medicated. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 5:31 AM Â Who are the dissidents? WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Don is at it again. This statement does not make sense. Don can you elaborate to fill in the blanks so everyone can understand what your idea is? Questions to help you out: What people who think with their heads. What group are you referring to? What is the entire statement making reference to? One could guess it is the Youtube video that Randall posted, but that is just a guess. Only you can be more specific. WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 You know Darn well what a dissident is quit acting like an idiot! If my response wasn't clear for you well then that's your problem! not mine! From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 5:31 AM Who are the dissidents? WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 thank you for sharing that story, makes me wonder about myself if i have also been a victim and misdiagnose. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 10:49:14 PM Subject: WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm sure we all have and many others, how can they truly tell who has the actual HIV virus when the tests are unreliable and viral loads can be found in ALL individuals, not to mention the CD4 counts are meaningless too. I'm surprised this story made news, I'm sure the CDC and FDA were outraged by this since their cover up is being exposed little by little. From: Eva V <ev204@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:23 PM  thank you for sharing that story, makes me wonder about myself if i have also been a victim and misdiagnose. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 10:49:14 PM Subject: WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Donnie, You call names like a little boy would. When you are pinned down, or called out all you do is call names. Why don't you respond with facts like an adult would? What is wrong with you. You do not state the source of your information. You also never explain how the remedies you talk about work. I believe none of you know how these alternative remedies work, if they work at all. Get it together Donnie and grow up. What does this mean: " what a dissident is quit acting " Is this a typo? Before you send something out I suggest you proof read it first. Did you mean the word What should be when? Donnie I can't be bothered with your nonsense any more. You do not make sense. Your thoughts are twisted convoluted and nonsense. I will waste no more time with you because you will never learn. I bet you were a real challenge in school. You did not learn much. It is a shame because in some ways you can be a nice guy. Lately you are becoming more and more immature and babyish. I can't be bothered with your mood swings. WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Yeah that story came from Fox 5 in Atlanta and if I'm not mistaken, the CDC is located in Atlanta?  I was shocked to see it too.  I would think it would cause alot of people to think but then some people are so locked into thinking one way that they would just look at his individual case and think it just happened to him and no one else.  Like one of those " rare " things.  Know what I mean?  They don't want us to think hiv testing can EVER be inaccurate.  How often do you hear them say that it can be inaccurate?  You don't. Randall ________________________________ From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: Re: WOWZERS!  I'm sure we all have and many others, how can they truly tell who has the actual HIV virus when the tests are unreliable and viral loads can be found in ALL individuals, not to mention the CD4 counts are meaningless too. I'm surprised this story made news, I'm sure the CDC and FDA were outraged by this since their cover up is being exposed little by little. From: Eva V <ev204@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:23 PM  thank you for sharing that story, makes me wonder about myself if i have also been a victim and misdiagnose. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 10:49:14 PM Subject: WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Randall, Yes, the CDC is located in Atlanta. I do not think the location is relevant to this at all. A false positive can happen anywhere. My concern is why this guy put so much " faith " in one test result. I knew someone who also got a false positive result. He was on treatment for years until he got tested again and found he was negative. I told him to get tested a third time to be sure he was negative. I never heard from him again. Remember 3 results makes a trend. I suggest that anyone who tests negative or positive get tested again to be sure the results are correct. All test results are only as good as the sample taken. There are so many variables that can contaminate a sample and there is so much chance to mishandle a sample one cannot rely on one test result for accuracy. The guy in this video is a fool. It amazes me that you guys are astounded by this video because common sense says get tested again to be sure. I got tested 3 times before I believed the results. Remember a viral load test is also an HIV test. If you have a viral load you are also positive. So each viral load test that indicates a viral load is also an HIV test. A viral load test that is undetectable is an inconclusive HIV test. It does not mean you are negative. WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 It's true Randall, once you know how the human body works you will come to realize that it can rid itself from anything. Natural medicines and a change in diet can really help you more than those stupid toxic meds. The fact that once you test positive and you can never take an HIV test again is just insane! I have tested over and over and I'm negative, i believe everybody should do the same. Some people in my facebook friends list are pushing for an AIDS re-testing day. That's going to scare many AIDS organizations because they know many people are going to come out negative. Then they're going to use this BS viral load test to scared people, but i thanks to cases like this and other cases where this has occurred the truth will one day be exposed. From: Eva V <ev204@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:23 PM  thank you for sharing that story, makes me wonder about myself if i have also been a victim and misdiagnose. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 10:49:14 PM Subject: WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 No the only idiot/fool around here is you! I don't know how many times we have told you and how much evidence we have presented in video and in link that viral load test don't test for HIV. It's all in your head! just because you have a viral load doesn't mean you have the HIV virus. You saying why he put to much faith in ONE result, well that's all you need for them to label you as HIV positive you moron!  you just the one in denial in all this, when ever you see or read anything that doesn't go with your pill popping ways you whine like a little bitch! This man has no reason to live in misery like he once did and has no need to be taking medications if he doesn't have the virus. Why is he the fool? The only thing contaminated around here is your head and the crap you're spewing to the members of this board. you should test yourself right now and see what your result is so you can see how unreliable these tests are, you might be negative. From: Eva V <ev204@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:23 PM thank you for sharing that story, makes me wonder about myself if i have also been a victim and misdiagnose. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 10:49:14 PM Subject: WOWZERS! Don 's gonna have a field day with this one! This video is a big HELLO to all who have been diagnosed HIV positive and it kinda supports what dissidents have been saying all along. I'll let you guys see for yourself but all I got to say is " WOWZERS! " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDdfyXg2X5A & feature=related So... just how accurate are the HIV tests ... and ... How positive are you? Were the dissidents onto something? Ok guys, take care. Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Sorry Doug, but a viral load doesn't mean HIV positive. Ask your nurse and doctor, it is a well known fact that HIV negative people also have a viral load. I recently Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I'll look into this Happy type. I have not heard this before. Let me be sure of what you are saying, people who are negative have an HIV viral load? Is that what you are saying? Re: WOWZERS! Sorry Doug, but a viral load doesn't mean HIV positive. Ask your nurse and doctor, it is a well known fact that HIV negative people also have a viral load. I recently Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3783 - Release Date: 07/23/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 That's what I've been telling you all along.....YES! HIV positive people have viral loads. Viral load tests only test for proteins and DNA strands they are not specific to the HIV virus. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: WOWZERS! cures for AIDS Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 4:20 PM  I'll look into this Happy type. I have not heard this before. Let me be sure of what you are saying, people who are negative have an HIV viral load? Is that what you are saying? Re: WOWZERS! Sorry Doug, but a viral load doesn't mean HIV positive. Ask your nurse and doctor, it is a well known fact that HIV negative people also have a viral load. I recently Sent from my iPhone ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3783 - Release Date: 07/23/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Don I wish you would proof read things before you send them out. I always have to guess at what you actually meant to say. We all know that HIV+ people have viral loads. That is not a surprise. What did you mean to write, or is that all you have to say? The protein and DNA strands the viral load tests for are specific to HIV only. How could you think differently? Re: WOWZERS! Sorry Doug, but a viral load doesn't mean HIV positive. Ask your nurse and doctor, it is a well known fact that HIV negative people also have a viral load. I recently Sent from my iPhone ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3783 - Release Date: 07/23/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Doctors told me HIV Negative people do not have Any viral load... Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Happytype <happytype@...> wrote: > Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Many doctors are ignorant. Doctors and nurses from 2 different clinics in Hong Kong confirmed that fact with me. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 why do you ask the same damn questions then come here and talk about what your doctor told you? Do some research or just listen to your doctor. > Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Are you saying HIV viral loads exist in HIV Negative people? There are all kinds of viral loads. Hep C viral load is tested by PCR test but one that is specific to HepC. A Hepc test will not register an HIV viral load and vice- versa. You must specify what viral load you are speaking about. Re: WOWZERS! Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3785 - Release Date: 07/24/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Duesberg, Bauer, Null, all agree that it is possible to have a viral load without being HIV positive. Have a look at the documentary " The Science of Panic " on the Rethinking Aids website where a german doctor tells how she sent her own HIV negative blood in for testing and she had a viral load. See for yourself. ________________________________ From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: WOWZERS! Â Are you saying HIV viral loads exist in HIV Negative people? There are all kinds of viral loads. Hep C viral load is tested by PCR test but one that is specific to HepC. A Hepc test will not register an HIV viral load and vice- versa. You must specify what viral load you are speaking about. Re: WOWZERS! Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. Sent from my iPhone ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3785 - Release Date: 07/24/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Anyone know of a effective natural therapy That can cure aids please share here Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote: > why do you ask the same damn questions then come here and talk about what your doctor told you? Do some research or just listen to your doctor. > > > > > Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hey Marc, Talking about cure still a dream and fake but yes we all need effective natural therapy that can help keep us breathing...and of course away from meds!! Jey Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone Re: WOWZERS! Anyone know of a effective natural therapy That can cure aids please share here Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote: > why do you ask the same damn questions then come here and talk about what your doctor told you? Do some research or just listen to your doctor. > > > > > Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Hey Jey, you're right and that's essentially why we all joined this group called cures for AIDS!  Randall ________________________________ From: " sortedeles@... " <sortedeles@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:27 AM Subject: Re: WOWZERS!  Hey Marc, Talking about cure still a dream and fake but yes we all need effective natural therapy that can help keep us breathing...and of course away from meds!! Jey Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone Re: WOWZERS! Anyone know of a effective natural therapy That can cure aids please share here Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote: > why do you ask the same damn questions then come here and talk about what your doctor told you? Do some research or just listen to your doctor. > > > > > Viral loads exist in HIV negative people. When is your next appointment with your doctor? Ask nurses and doctors in the HIV sector, they all know that. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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