more on the viral load experiment

[Guest guest]

Load of ****

hi all,

some may remember that I have been banging on about this issue for a while.

A couple of months ago I had two VL tests from the same day that came back

with 15,700 and 78,900 with different log values too.

Yesterday I got back the results of a similar experiment plus the cd4 count

(taken on the same morning and on different labs.)

This time had as a result,

lab 1, VL 13900 (log 4,14), CD4 81 (5%) (this is the lab where I had 78,9K

before

lab 2, VL 136000 (log 5,1), CD4 111 (8,5%) (from a third lab)

yes, 13K and 136K...

Any comments anyone?

All I can think of is WT#!!?

Thank you!

Saludos,

Ps, If anyone is interested in more details, let me know.

PPs, Some may say, well, why do you bother giving blood to a lab, let alone

take the ARVs... It happens that at this point in time I feel better do

this, and I am probably not strong enough yet. And having these " scary " test

results is a way to reasure me. It is in fact a good resut as far as I am

concerned.

[Guest guest]

Yes those values can differ from day to day.  When I go get lab work done, I

have to wait 2 weeks to schedule my follow up which i think is stupid.  But

that's the system is.  Thank you for sharing .

From: Foros <juanforos11@...>

Subject: more on the viral load experiment

cures for AIDS , AIDSsoc

Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:55 PM

 

Load of ****

hi all,

some may remember that I have been banging on about this issue for a while.

A couple of months ago I had two VL tests from the same day that came back

with 15,700 and 78,900 with different log values too.

Yesterday I got back the results of a similar experiment plus the cd4 count

(taken on the same morning and on different labs.)

This time had as a result,

lab 1, VL 13900 (log 4,14), CD4 81 (5%) (this is the lab where I had 78,9K

before

lab 2, VL 136000 (log 5,1), CD4 111 (8,5%) (from a third lab)

yes, 13K and 136K...

Any comments anyone?

All I can think of is WT#!!?

Thank you!

Saludos,

Ps, If anyone is interested in more details, let me know.

PPs, Some may say, well, why do you bother giving blood to a lab, let alone

take the ARVs... It happens that at this point in time I feel better do

this, and I am probably not strong enough yet. And having these " scary " test

results is a way to reasure me. It is in fact a good resut as far as I am

concerned.

[Guest guest]

,

Yes results can differ that much. When the T cell test first came out

researchers were surprised to see that T cells can change multiple times during

the day in response to stimuli like stress, aggravation, almost anything. T

cells go up and down through out the day by as much as several hundred. Viral

load can do the same. I bet the two tests correlate, though I have not read

about this. The results you got were normal.

more on the viral load experiment

cures for AIDS , AIDSsoc

Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:55 PM

Load of ****

hi all,

some may remember that I have been banging on about this issue for a while.

A couple of months ago I had two VL tests from the same day that came back

with 15,700 and 78,900 with different log values too.

Yesterday I got back the results of a similar experiment plus the cd4 count

(taken on the same morning and on different labs.)

This time had as a result,

lab 1, VL 13900 (log 4,14), CD4 81 (5%) (this is the lab where I had 78,9K

before

lab 2, VL 136000 (log 5,1), CD4 111 (8,5%) (from a third lab)

yes, 13K and 136K...

Any comments anyone?

All I can think of is WT#!!?

Thank you!

Saludos,

Ps, If anyone is interested in more details, let me know.

PPs, Some may say, well, why do you bother giving blood to a lab, let alone

take the ARVs... It happens that at this point in time I feel better do

this, and I am probably not strong enough yet. And having these " scary " test

results is a way to reasure me. It is in fact a good resut as far as I am

concerned.

[Guest guest]

Your cd 4 is so low

Did u fall sick or get any

Infections or TB?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Foros <juanforos11@...> wrote:

> Load of ****

>

> hi all,

> some may remember that I have been banging on about this issue for a while.

>

> A couple of months ago I had two VL tests from the same day that came back

> with 15,700 and 78,900 with different log values too.

>

> Yesterday I got back the results of a similar experiment plus the cd4 count

> (taken on the same morning and on different labs.)

>

> This time had as a result,

>

> lab 1, VL 13900 (log 4,14), CD4 81 (5%) (this is the lab where I had 78,9K

> before

> lab 2, VL 136000 (log 5,1), CD4 111 (8,5%) (from a third lab)

> yes, 13K and 136K...

>

> Any comments anyone?

> All I can think of is WT#!!?

>

> Thank you!

> Saludos,

>

> Ps, If anyone is interested in more details, let me know.

> PPs, Some may say, well, why do you bother giving blood to a lab, let alone

> take the ARVs... It happens that at this point in time I feel better do

> this, and I am probably not strong enough yet. And having these " scary " test

> results is a way to reasure me. It is in fact a good resut as far as I am

> concerned.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hellos,

thanks for your comments,

Marc, I am not sick and didn´t get sick, maybe I´ve been having little

sleep.

The point about these values is that they were obtained within 40 minutes of

each other.

Nevermind if the numbers are " high " or low, or reflect health or risk, but

the fact that they are so different..

Saludos,

[Guest guest]

Don ,

You could ask your doctor to write on the lab script " copy to patient " . That way

when the lab mails your doctor his copy they will mail you one too. You would

have your results in a week that way. Some doctors who are patient advocates

will do it, some who are uncooperative won't. You should always get a copy of

your labs from your doctor each time they are done.

more on the viral load experiment

cures for AIDS , AIDSsoc

Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:55 PM

Load of ****

hi all,

some may remember that I have been banging on about this issue for a while.

A couple of months ago I had two VL tests from the same day that came back

with 15,700 and 78,900 with different log values too.

Yesterday I got back the results of a similar experiment plus the cd4 count

(taken on the same morning and on different labs.)

This time had as a result,

lab 1, VL 13900 (log 4,14), CD4 81 (5%) (this is the lab where I had 78,9K

before

lab 2, VL 136000 (log 5,1), CD4 111 (8,5%) (from a third lab)

yes, 13K and 136K...

Any comments anyone?

All I can think of is WT#!!?

Thank you!

Saludos,

Ps, If anyone is interested in more details, let me know.

PPs, Some may say, well, why do you bother giving blood to a lab, let alone

take the ARVs... It happens that at this point in time I feel better do

this, and I am probably not strong enough yet. And having these " scary " test

results is a way to reasure me. It is in fact a good resut as far as I am

concerned.