Guest guest Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Randall, Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've misplaced them. On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > > Randall > > > ________________________________ > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: The truth. > > > > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > > > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > Subject: The truth. > > cures for AIDS > > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I would like to hear what people think of that please? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 LOL.  Yes , I make it myself.  You are right it would be aweful expensive to buy it.  I don't even wanna think about it!  Hehe.  I couldn't live without it. Randall ________________________________ From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs  Randall, Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've misplaced them. On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > > Randall > > > ________________________________ > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: The truth. > > > > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > > > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > Subject: The truth. > > cures for AIDS > > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I would like to hear what people think of that please? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Colloidal silver is very good and beneficial but make sure you take probiotics in conjunction with any colloidal silver therapy. You need that good bacteria as well. > > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > Subject: The truth. > > cures for AIDS > > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I would like to hear what people think of that please? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Go to www.aidshivawareness.org and download their free report. They have had people go from positive to negative, and their poster child lady went from deaths door, viral load of 440,000 to zero...and has been non detectible for 5 years! Then you can find their flax based product at www.flaxlignanhealth.com . Hope this helps. On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Marc <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > From reducing ..it's not effective > In the treatment! > > Have anyone in this group been > Cured of HIV? > > Marc > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't live without it. > > > > Randall > > > > ________________________________ > > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > > cures for AIDS > > Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > > > > Randall, > > > > Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful > > expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find > > my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > > misplaced them. > > > > > > On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > > all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > > Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > > them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > > we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > > group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > > sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a > > debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. > > It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > > We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no > > reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > > If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > > growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > > > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > > the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > > treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > > people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so > > maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you > > taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > > multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink > > 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > > dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, > > I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > > an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > > > > > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > > linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. > > So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > > > > > > > > Randall > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > > > cures for AIDS > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > > > Subject: Re: The truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > > anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > > just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the > > best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an > > you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > > there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > > came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > > fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has > > shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > > facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker > > etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > > cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > > > > > Subject: The truth. > > > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > > > > > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > > > > > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > > tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > > response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral > > response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > > virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > > > > > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV > > test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with > > the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > > there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > > virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make > > antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > > virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I > > would like to hear what people think of that please? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I tried Silver Colloidal but it Doesnt help to stop my cd4 From reducing ..it's not effective In the treatment! Have anyone in this group been Cured of HIV? Marc Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't live without it. > > Randall > > ________________________________ > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > Randall, > > Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful > expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find > my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > misplaced them. > > > On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a > debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. > It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no > reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so > maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > > > > > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you > taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink > 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, > I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > > > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. > So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > > > > > Randall > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > > cures for AIDS > > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > > Subject: Re: The truth. > > > > > > > > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the > best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an > you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has > shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker > etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > > > > > > > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > > > Subject: The truth. > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > > > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > > > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral > response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > > > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV > test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with > the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make > antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I > would like to hear what people think of that please? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to chicken pox, flu, etc. On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > From reducing ..it's not effective > In the treatment! > > Have anyone in this group been > Cured of HIV? > > > Marc > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't live without it. >> >> Randall >> >> ________________________________ >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> >> cures for AIDS >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs >> >> >> Randall, >> >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've >> misplaced them. >> >> >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! >> > >> > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. >> > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? >> > >> > >> > Randall >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> >> > cures for AIDS >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM >> > Subject: Re: The truth. >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> >> > >> > Subject: The truth. >> > >> > cures for AIDS >> > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM >> > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! >> > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. >> > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I >> would like to hear what people think of that please? >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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