Guest guest Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of 35% of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well as CD4 raise. ________________________________ From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to chicken pox, flu, etc. On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > From reducing ..it's not effective > In the treatment! > > Have anyone in this group been > Cured of HIV? > > > Marc > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't live without it. >> >> Randall >> >> ________________________________ >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> >> cures for AIDS >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs >> >> >> Randall, >> >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be awful >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to find >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've >> misplaced them. >> >> >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not a >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or bad. >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has no >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better so >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! >> > >> > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are you >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also drink >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so severe, >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. >> > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this group. >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? >> > >> > >> > Randall >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> >> > cures for AIDS >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM >> > Subject: Re: The truth. >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far the >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with an >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus has >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, Baker >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> >> > >> > Subject: The truth. >> > >> > cures for AIDS >> > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM >> > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! >> > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a viral >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. >> > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The HIV >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has with >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only make >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. I >> would like to hear what people think of that please? >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 yes, i tried it for a couple of years. regardless of the hype, it seemed like good nutrition overall. it did not improve viral load or cd4 for me, but my problem was that i had so many parasites and other freeloaders taking most of my nutrients, the flax likely did not even make it out of my gut to the bloodstream where it could have done some good. once my overwhelming pathogen load was eliminated, the virus? was not an issue. brian. > Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of > 35% > of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well > as CD4 > raise. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It > will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in > that > regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. > > The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune > system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to > chicken pox, flu, etc. > On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: >> I tried Silver Colloidal but it >> Doesnt help to stop my cd4 >> From reducing ..it's not effective >> In the treatment! >> >> Have anyone in this group been >> Cured of HIV? >> >> >> Marc >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> >> wrote: >> >>> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful > expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't > live without it. >>> >>> Randall >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> >>> cures for AIDS >>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs >>> >>> >>> Randall, >>> >>> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be > awful >>> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to > find >>> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've >>> misplaced them. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: >>> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting >>> somewhere >>> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake >>> up! >>> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has >>> helped >>> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " >>> when >>> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of >>> the >>> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and >>> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is >>> not > a >>> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or > bad. >>> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV >>> drugs. >>> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has > no >>> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into >>> it! >>> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground >>> for >>> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here >>> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back >>> to >>> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about >>> alternative >>> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear >>> what >>> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better > so >>> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! >>> > >>> > >>> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are > you >>> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily >>> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also > drink >>> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be >>> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so > severe, >>> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get >>> through >>> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. >>> > >>> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are >>> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this > group. >>> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? >>> > >>> > >>> > Randall >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> >>> > cures for AIDS >>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM >>> > Subject: Re: The truth. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board >>> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to >>> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far > the >>> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating >>> with > an >>> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information >>> out >>> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I >>> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not >>> in >>> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus > has >>> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on >>> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, > Baker >>> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this >>> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> >>> > >>> > Subject: The truth. >>> > >>> > cures for AIDS >>> > >>> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM >>> > >>> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a >>> virus! >>> > >>> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV >>> test >>> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for >>> viral >>> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > viral >>> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for >>> the >>> virus, one that does not test for the virus. >>> > >>> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > HIV >>> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > with >>> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't >>> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the >>> HIV >>> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > make >>> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to >>> the >>> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be >>> present. > I >>> would like to hear what people think of that please? >>> > >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Flax lignans work, but you have your stats wrong. They have a report at www.aidshivawareness.org and Health Sciences Institute is preparing a large article in their August edition. HSI also did a good article on lignans which should be on the Aids HIV awareness site. It's worth reading up and checking out. Their poster girl is named , 440,000 viral load to non detectible in 3 months, and 5 years later she is still non detectible. CD4 up to normal as well, no symptoms for 5 years. On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of 35% > of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well as CD4 > raise. > > ________________________________ > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It > will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that > regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. > > The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune > system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to > chicken pox, flu, etc. > On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > > From reducing ..it's not effective > > In the treatment! > > > > Have anyone in this group been > > Cured of HIV? > > > > > > Marc > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful > expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't > live without it. > >> > >> Randall > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > >> cures for AIDS > >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > >> > >> > >> Randall, > >> > >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be > awful > >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to > find > >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > >> misplaced them. > >> > >> > >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not > a > >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or > bad. > >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has > no > >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better > so > >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > >> > > >> > > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are > you > >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also > drink > >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so > severe, > >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > >> > > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this > group. > >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > >> > > >> > > >> > Randall > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > >> > cures for AIDS > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > >> > Subject: Re: The truth. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far > the > >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with > an > >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus > has > >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, > Baker > >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > >> > > >> > Subject: The truth. > >> > > >> > cures for AIDS > >> > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > >> > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > >> > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > viral > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > >> > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > HIV > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > with > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > make > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > I > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I have used flax lignans for straight four months faithfully and there is a lot of relief from chronic pain, but showed not change on cd4 or viral load for me. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: Dr. Daves <rriver1010@...> " cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS > Sent: Tue, July 12, 2011 12:42:56 AM Subject: Re: Flax Hull Lignan Flax lignans work, but you have your stats wrong. They have a report at www.aidshivawareness.org and Health Sciences Institute is preparing a large article in their August edition. HSI also did a good article on lignans which should be on the Aids HIV awareness site. It's worth reading up and checking out. Their poster girl is named , 440,000 viral load to non detectible in 3 months, and 5 years later she is still non detectible. CD4 up to normal as well, no symptoms for 5 years. On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of 35% > of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well as CD4 > > raise. > > ________________________________ > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > cures for AIDS > Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It > will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that > regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. > > The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune > system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to > chicken pox, flu, etc. > On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > > From reducing ..it's not effective > > In the treatment! > > > > Have anyone in this group been > > Cured of HIV? > > > > > > Marc > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful > expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't > live without it. > >> > >> Randall > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > >> cures for AIDS > >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > >> > >> > >> Randall, > >> > >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be > awful > >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to > find > >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > >> misplaced them. > >> > >> > >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not > a > >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or > bad. > >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has > no > >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better > so > >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > >> > > >> > > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are > you > >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also > drink > >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so > severe, > >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > >> > > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this > group. > >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > >> > > >> > > >> > Randall > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > >> > cures for AIDS > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > >> > Subject: Re: The truth. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far > the > >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with > an > >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus > has > >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, > Baker > >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > >> > > >> > Subject: The truth. > >> > > >> > cures for AIDS > >> > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > >> > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > >> > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > viral > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > >> > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > HIV > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > with > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > make > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > I > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 What are the long term side effects Of Flax Hull Lignan? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, " Dr. Daves " <rriver1010@...> wrote: > Flax lignans work, but you have your stats wrong. They have a report at www.aidshivawareness.org and Health Sciences Institute is preparing a large article in their August edition. HSI also did a good article on lignans which should be on the Aids HIV awareness site. It's worth reading up and checking out. Their poster girl is named , 440,000 viral load to non detectible in 3 months, and 5 years later she is still non detectible. CD4 up to normal as well, no symptoms for 5 years. > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of 35% > > of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well as CD4 > > raise. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > > cures for AIDS > > Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM > > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > > I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It > > will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that > > regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. > > > > The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune > > system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to > > chicken pox, flu, etc. > > On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > > > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > > > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > > > From reducing ..it's not effective > > > In the treatment! > > > > > > Have anyone in this group been > > > Cured of HIV? > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > > > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful > > expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't > > live without it. > > >> > > >> Randall > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > > >> cures for AIDS > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > > >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > >> > > >> > > >> Randall, > > >> > > >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be > > awful > > >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to > > find > > >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > > >> misplaced them. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > > >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > > >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > > >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > > >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > > >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > > >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not > > a > > >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or > > bad. > > >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > > >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has > > no > > >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > > >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > > >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > > >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > > >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > > >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > > >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better > > so > > >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are > > you > > >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > > >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also > > drink > > >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > > >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so > > severe, > > >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > > >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > >> > > > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > > >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this > > group. > > >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Randall > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ________________________________ > > >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > > >> > cures for AIDS > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > > >> > Subject: Re: The truth. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > > >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > > >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far > > the > > >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with > > an > > >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > > >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > > >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > > >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus > > has > > >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > > >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, > > Baker > > >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > > >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > >> > > > >> > Subject: The truth. > > >> > > > >> > cures for AIDS > > >> > > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > >> > > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > >> > > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > > viral > > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > >> > > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > > HIV > > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > > with > > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > > make > > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > > I > > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 That is great. Does anyone know how Flax lignans work? With ARV's we know exactly how they work. How do these other things work? The truth. > > >> > > > >> > cures for AIDS > > >> > > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > >> > > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > >> > > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > > viral > > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > >> > > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > > HIV > > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > > with > > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > > make > > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > > I > > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 To me the effect I got from it was before I took it I had a lot of pain in all joints it helped a lot but after the effect was gone the pain was worst then before I took it. Love, Live, and Laugh ________________________________ From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> cures for AIDS Sent: Tue, July 19, 2011 6:56:48 PM Subject: Re: Flax Hull Lignan That is great. Does anyone know how Flax lignans work? With ARV's we know exactly how they work. How do these other things work? The truth. > > >> > > > >> > cures for AIDS > > >> > > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > >> > > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > >> > > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > > viral > > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > >> > > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > > HIV > > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > > with > > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > > make > > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > > I > > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 No side effects. Lignans are considered food as they are directly extracted from flax seed. On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Marc <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > What are the long term side effects > Of Flax Hull Lignan? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:42 PM, " Dr. Daves " <rriver1010@...> wrote: > > > Flax lignans work, but you have your stats wrong. They have a report at www.aidshivawareness.org and Health Sciences Institute is preparing a large article in their August edition. HSI also did a good article on lignans which should be on the Aids HIV awareness site. It's worth reading up and checking out. Their poster girl is named , 440,000 viral load to non detectible in 3 months, and 5 years later she is still non detectible. CD4 up to normal as well, no symptoms for 5 years. > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:38 PM, Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > > > Has anyone tried Flax Hull Lignan? They promote viral load undetectable of 35% > > > of users within 3 months and significant reduction in all others as well as CD4 > > > raise. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > > > cures for AIDS > > > Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 10:15:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > > > > I have never heard of colloidal silver mentioned as a boost to tcells. It > > > will kill viruses and bacteria, yes. I have read many testimonials in that > > > regard, and seen first hand eye infections cleared up. > > > > > > The hiv diagnosis will never go away as long as we have an active immune > > > system, since the antibodies will remain, just as we have antibodies to > > > chicken pox, flu, etc. > > > On Jul 8, 2011 9:45 PM, " Marc " <ur_ass2003@...> wrote: > > > > I tried Silver Colloidal but it > > > > Doesnt help to stop my cd4 > > > > From reducing ..it's not effective > > > > In the treatment! > > > > > > > > Have anyone in this group been > > > > Cured of HIV? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:50 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > > > > > >> LOL. Yes , I make it myself. You are right it would be aweful > > > expensive to buy it. I don't even wanna think about it! Hehe. I couldn't > > > live without it. > > > >> > > > >> Randall > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> From: daniel martin <danielnv.martin@...> > > > >> cures for AIDS > > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 5:58 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: BACK TO FOCUS / cs > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Randall, > > > >> > > > >> Are you making the colloidal silver, I hope? Otherwise that would be > > > awful > > > >> expensive, I imagine. I have been planning to make some, but I have to > > > find > > > >> my bars of silver. I bought 2 ounce bars for that purpose, but now I've > > > >> misplaced them. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Jul 7, 2011 2:52 PM, " Nonyo Biznazz " <nonyobiznazz@...> wrote: > > > >> > Blah blah blah. You're being so negative Don. We ARE getting somewhere > > > >> all the time! Didn't Ivy's post say something to you? Dear God, wake up! > > > >> Everyone's not gonna speak up and tell you how much this group has helped > > > >> them. You just have to believe it man. The group only " goes to shit " when > > > >> we whine, complain, and argue about things that are off the focus of the > > > >> group. Let's get the group back to where we are seeking and > > > >> sharing alternative treatments to maintain our health. This group is not > > > a > > > >> debate about whether HIV is real or not or whether HIV meds are good or > > > bad. > > > >> It's about alternative ways to maintain health without taking HIV drugs. > > > >> We can't lose focus and we can't give into the idea that this group has > > > no > > > >> reason or positive purpose. That's bullshit and I will not give into it! > > > >> If you really think that Don and feel you have found a better ground for > > > >> growth, I say move on and go that way but don't come here > > > >> > damning this group to shit. That angers me but I'm ready to get back to > > > >> the real focus here so unless you have something to say about alternative > > > >> treatments, then frankly I am not interested anymore. I want to hear what > > > >> people are doing and how what they are doing is making them feel better > > > so > > > >> maybe I or someone else may think about trying that! C'mon guys! > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Anyways, I will ask this again. How's everyone's health and what are > > > you > > > >> taking to maintain your health these days? I'm taking my daily > > > >> multivitamin, a daily probiotic, and 200mcg of selenium daily. I also > > > drink > > > >> 8 oz of colloidal silver daily. I swear without colloidal silver I'd be > > > >> dead! Without colloidal silver, my sinus and ear infections are so > > > severe, > > > >> I cannot function. After I injest the colloidal silver, I can get through > > > >> an entire day and feel damn near close to normal! The stuff is amazing. > > > >> > > > > >> > Also, did you guys see today where they published that HIV drugs are > > > >> linked to premature aging? It's yet another reason why I joined this > > > group. > > > >> So yeah, what are you guys doing for your health? > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Randall > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ________________________________ > > > >> > From: Don <donjuan69uni@...> > > > >> > cures for AIDS > > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 9:55 PM > > > >> > Subject: Re: The truth. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes i will get over it since like only 4 people comment on this board > > > >> anyways. As I said this board as gone to shit, it's better everybody to > > > >> just log on to other places and get information. Facebook is the by far > > > the > > > >> best place plus it puts a face on the people you care communicating with > > > an > > > >> you get to see how healthy we all look. There is tons of information out > > > >> there and it's best you just educate yourself on this subject matter. I > > > >> came here lost myself and now I'm educated and in full control and not in > > > >> fear, I hope you Randall get to that point. I'll be around but my focus > > > has > > > >> shifted to the other group I'm dedicated too. I suggest you all get on > > > >> facebook and speak to people like Desuberg, Joan Shenton, > > > Baker > > > >> etc. It's much easier to reach these people who are dedicated to this > > > >> cause. Because here we're not getting anywhere. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> > > > >> > > > > >> > Subject: The truth. > > > >> > > > > >> > cures for AIDS > > > >> > > > > >> > Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 11:27 AM > > > >> > > > > >> > Don says: Randall, you test positive for an Anti-body NOT a virus! > > > >> > > > > >> > A viral load test tests for the virus and viral particles. The HIV test > > > >> tests for antibodies, not the virus. A Geno & Pheno test tests for viral > > > >> response which to me is also testing for the virus. You cannot have a > > > viral > > > >> response without having the virus. So there are 3 tests that test for the > > > >> virus, one that does not test for the virus. > > > >> > > > > >> > The problem here is that it takes a brain to reach a conclusion. The > > > HIV > > > >> test is based on a conclusion. There in lies the problem Don has > > > with > > > >> the HIV test. Would one's body give a response to a stimulus that isn't > > > >> there? That is the question. The HIV test tests for antibodies to the HIV > > > >> virus. The test result is based on the premise that the body would only > > > make > > > >> antibodies if the virus was present. Antibodies are one's response to the > > > >> virus.... If there are antibodies present the virus must also be present. > > > I > > > >> would like to hear what people think of that please? > > > >> > > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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