Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Thought I would share how hypochlorus acid the compound in anu water and mms2 is revolutionizing wound care, what a blessing. http://www.puricore.com/markets_woundtherapy.aspx PuriCore's technology mimics the human body's own production of the natural antimicrobial, hypochlorous acid (HOCl). Called " nature's antimicrobial, " HOCl is non-cytotoxic and highly effective against a broad range of microorganisms including MRSA, VRE, as well as numerous other bacteria, viruses, and fungal spores. Vashe Wound Therapy, PuriCore's most recent development, is designed as a safe and effective non-cytotoxic, non-sensitizing, proprietary wound treatment specifically aimed at managing the wound environment > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the " mousse " forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water. " > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Lynn Malaria is much scarier. The Africans call this magic water, here they call it snake oil. Go figure. I might also add reading the science on this link has made me decide to change the maintenance to mms2. Perhaps this winter during flu season I will continue on mms1. Right now I am feeling so good, better then many years before. I am concerned about red blood cells with continual use of chlorine dioxide, more research is required. I had blood work done after reading this site, my CBC is better than ever, white blood count and red. But I still must add this stuff was the kill for me that started the healing process. I was also concerned about iron my hemoglobin was fine also. Black strap molasses probably helped there. It is hot here today, heat index of over 100. Inside for the afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the " mousse " forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water. " > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Good for you Marie...I don't know who to believe..ultimately...I just appreciate you for you feistiness and healing capabilities.Love you,Rose....To me Your are a true healer and nurse and have done alot of good with your healing spirit. Anu water and mms don't have a clue...but appreciate Your help and committment to healing...R.From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>To: bird mites Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 12:51:25 PMSubject: Re: MMS Lynn Malaria is much scarier. The Africans call this magic water, here they call it snake oil. Go figure. I might also add reading the science on this link has made me decide to change the maintenance to mms2. Perhaps this winter during flu season I will continue on mms1. Right now I am feeling so good, better then many years before. I am concerned about red blood cells with continual use of chlorine dioxide, more research is required. I had blood work done after reading this site, my CBC is better than ever, white blood count and red. But I still must add this stuff was the kill for me that started the healing process. I was also concerned about iron my hemoglobin was fine also. Black strap molasses probably helped there. It is hot here today, heat index of over 100. Inside for the afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-deadly.html > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > "2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the "mousse" forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water." > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Rose thanks dear that feistiness has caused me to survive, and also cause me to get into trouble:) Follow your heart and listen to your body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the " mousse " forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Malaria justifies the use of drugs that are harmful to the body, just to get rid of it. So does cancer. So does many other diseases. Extended intake of harmful chemicals and treatments (months or years) is a very dangerous proposition. Ingesting Chlorine Dioxide is no different. It destroys red blood cells and other organic tissue that makes up your body. As far as I know not one person has healed from this disease from Chlorine Dioxide intake alone, even after a year of continuous intake. This is a warning to those who are planning to consume chlorine dioxide for an extended period of time. J From: rose <auberginedream777@...bird mites Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 4:33:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: MMS Good for you Marie...I don't know who to believe..ultimately ...I just appreciate you for you feistiness and healing capabilities. Love you,Rose.... To me Your are a true healer and nurse and have done alot of good with your healing spirit. Anu water and mms don't have a clue...but appreciate Your help and committment to healing...R. From: healinghope <mfrreman (DOT) com>bird mitesSent: Sun, June 13, 2010 12:51:25 PMSubject: Re: MMS Lynn Malaria is much scarier. The Africans call this magic water, here they call it snake oil. Go figure. I might also add reading the science on this link has made me decide to change the maintenance to mms2. Perhaps this winter during flu season I will continue on mms1. Right now I am feeling so good, better then many years before. I am concerned about red blood cells with continual use of chlorine dioxide, more research is required. I had blood work done after reading this site, my CBC is better than ever, white blood count and red. But I still must add this stuff was the kill for me that started the healing process. I was also concerned about iron my hemoglobin was fine also. Black strap molasses probably helped there.It is hot here today, heat index of over 100. Inside for the afternoon.> > > > > >> > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails.> > > > > > http://contrailscie nce.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP.> > > > > > http://watergatesum mer.blogspot. com/2010/ 05/questions- about-dispersant -have-deadly. html> > > > > > http://contrailscie nce.com/> > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~ > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > "2. Concentration/ Application Rate: > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the "mousse" forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water." > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Marie, just curious what was your experience with the anu when you used it?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 13, 2010, at 8:09 AM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote: Thought I would share how hypochlorus acid the compound in anu water and mms2 is revolutionizing wound care, what a blessing. http://www.puricore.com/markets_woundtherapy.aspx PuriCore's technology mimics the human body's own production of the natural antimicrobial, hypochlorous acid (HOCl). Called "nature's antimicrobial," HOCl is non-cytotoxic and highly effective against a broad range of microorganisms including MRSA, VRE, as well as numerous other bacteria, viruses, and fungal spores. Vashe Wound Therapy, PuriCore's most recent development, is designed as a safe and effective non-cytotoxic, non-sensitizing, proprietary wound treatment specifically aimed at managing the wound environment > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-deadly.html > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > "2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Lynn My cells are happier than they have been in years. Hope the Ka-Thunk did not hurt you:) MMS2 is good stuff the nay sayers should have a much harder time knocking it. Mark my word the market will start having wound care and many positive things with hypochlorus acid that will rock medicine, just like the chlorine dioxide is doing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the " mousse " forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Rush I really had very little experience from the water, for me it was a waste of money. This was also years back before the hypochlorus acid perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of o > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Lynn I also need to add how sad it is that more research is not being done with chlorine dioxide considering its healing properties and perhaps even being a cure for disease. There is speculation for long term use that is all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clifford E Carnicom and I as posted before do not agree on the conspiracy of chemtrails or contrails. > > > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps are eyes should be on the ocean right now? Here is one thing I can tell you is being sprayed we should all be very concerned about. Dispersant's by BP. > > > > > > > > > http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/2010/05/questions-about-dispersant-have-dead\ ly.html > > > > > > > > > http://contrailscience.com/ > > > > > > > > > (1) The EPA literature says that the mixture has Solvents,Heavy Metals (arsenic,mercury in PPM that would be toxic to fish)and cyanide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) 476,000 gallons have been used so far, was this amount diluted in any way or straight to surface of water ? The Literature states that small amounts are used per acres to be sprayed 2-10 gallons at a time within 24 hours of moderate spill. The Literature also does not say what happens with larger spill, it reads as though it has not been tested or used in this way before. ( See No5 below and ask has too much been used in the Gulf in a short time ?). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) Here is the EPA info about the COREXIT Dispersants EC9527A and EC9500A Dispersants. And more here from EPA is worth a closer read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (4) Here is the information about the Heavy Metals concentrations ( from EPA info) ( which the fish should be tested) > > > > > > > > > (Please See Below the Toxins were measured in PPM:Parts per Million, yet for sensitive Aquatic Environments they should be measured in PPB-Parts Per Billion.) > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > Compound Concentration (ppm) > > > > > > > > > Arsenic < 0.005 > > > > > > > > > Cadmium < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > Chromium < 1.0 > > > > > > > > > Copper < 0.2 > > > > > > > > > Lead < 0.1 > > > > > > > > > Mercury < 0.003 > > > > > > > > > Nickel < 0.1 > > > > > > > > > Zinc 0.1 > > > > > > > > > Cyanide < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > Chlorinated Hydrocarbons < 0.01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** HOW Dangerous is Cyanide to Birds,Mammals and fish Read THIS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (5) The EPA info alson gives basic guidelines for Usage and Dispersal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " 2. Concentration/Application Rate: > > > > > > > > > A treatment rate of about 2 to 10 U.S. gallons per acre, or a dispersant to oil ratio of 1:50 to 1:10 is recommended. This rate varies depending on the type of oil, degree of weathering, temperature, and thickness of the slick. > > > > > > > > > 3. Conditions for Use: > > > > > > > > > As with all dispersants, timely application ensures the highest degree of success. Early treatment with COREXIT® EC9500A, even at reduced treat rates, can also counter the " mousse " forming tendencies of the spilled oil. COREXIT® EC9500A is useful on oil spills in salt water. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (6) Army uses experiment chemical (Dauphin Island) (via Treehugger) Is there a possibility that this Dispersant combined with the Army chemicals ? Someone needs to investigate. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > More from the Post above with Dauphin Islands Updates: > > > > > > > > > (reported by @Treehugger) Damage is beginning to be measured and seen as it reaches different parts of the Shoreline and Gulf Islands and Barriers. The first Fish Kill is On Dauphin Island,Alabama from last night. > > > > > > > > > Here is the actual video and footage of the Fish Kill-more than 300 fish, mostly large in Size. The Question is what killed these full grown fish, was it the Oil ? The Fish they ate ? or the Dispersant ? or the Chemicals that were used by the Military near Dauphin Island. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I have a question for those of you who have used the MMS in your vehicle. How many times did you use it before there was no longer any alive? You may not can answer that but maybe you can give me an idea how long it might take. I have used it 3 times so far and have found some dead ones. > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: jo_btc <jo_btc@> > > bird mites > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > Subject: MMS > > > >  > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > is what Lynn called you. > > Blessings > > Betty (Jo) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Jo MMS is more environment control I believe, if seeing live insects use a pesticide, orange guard was very effective for me. Besides seeing some dead insects is there a decrease in activity to? For myself allot of biting and crawling took place and I never saw insects at the time, this may be fungal in my opinion. Disinfection for myself is a large part of preventing re infestation, or creating a unfriendly environment. I am glad some insects are dead, what do these insects look like? > > > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: jo_btc <jo_btc@> > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > > Subject: MMS > > > > > >  > > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > > is what Lynn called you. > > > Blessings > > > Betty (Jo) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Marie these look like specks and when under a microscope they look like dirt but on me they move. That is what I have been dealing with and they bite or sting. I didnt know that the MMS was not for getting rid of them. I may have fungal but they do hurt and you can see them. I had the truck cleaned so they are not bad I think. Since I know that not all will be gone then I need to use a pesticide? I am not sure if I can find the orange guard but we do have a Ace Hardware. I sprayed the truck with all kinds of stuff and wasnt getting any where I have used moth balls and etc. including cynora and naylar and cedercide. The guy that detailed it used something like naylar from the vet. People have been in my vehicle and felt nothing??? I need my vehicle for my little granddaughter and I just cant take any chances. I need help Marie how did you use the orange guard? > > > > > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: jo_btc <jo_btc@> > > > > bird mites > > > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > > > Subject: MMS > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > > > is what Lynn called you. > > > > Blessings > > > > Betty (Jo) > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Are you receiving less stings and bites in the vehicle? Is the vehicle the only area of biting? I would suggest bathing with the mms1, or spraying spritzers of mms1, and using sulfur msm, flower of sulfur, externally and internally. I buy bulk sulfur and capsule myself much cheaper. Perhaps Triphala. This infestation infection seems to be in the gut if you will to. When my infestation was no longer visible with live insects I had the black specks just as you write of. I believe mine to be springtails. Perhaps trying bifen or cyonara to in the vehicle. But continue with the activated mms1 in the vehicle, sprintails feed on fungus and bacteria. But you must treat yourself to. If you can find orange guard use like armorall on plastic ect and spray carpet ect. Use lye soap lotion add flower of sulfur use mixer and or blender, add sulfur to olive oil then blend. Wash hair and body, use empty dish soap bottle squirt all over your back, let sit for several minutes. Also using fels naptha in the wash with borax and wash soda has been great for my clothes. Soak all brushes combs in ammonia enclosed container I use a gallon plastic with lid actually for ice tea. Good luck this is all fairly cheap to accomplish, but very time consuming. http://soapsgonebuy.com/ http://jimhumble.biz/biz-page2.htm http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Triphala & doSearch=true & ntt= & n=0 & nt\ k=Level1 & x=38 & y=8 http://www.ablackhorse.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5709 & idcategory=\ 0 http://www.pennherb.com/cgi-bin/herbstore.cgi/herb?;Sulphur LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and plant spray as well ) To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > > > > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: jo_btc <jo_btc@> > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > > > > Subject: MMS > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > > > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > > > > is what Lynn called you. > > > > > Blessings > > > > > Betty (Jo) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Ace hardware carries orange guard, if they do not have it in stock ace will order this for you, free shipping. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > > > > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: jo_btc <jo_btc@> > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > > > > Subject: MMS > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > > > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > > > > is what Lynn called you. > > > > > Blessings > > > > > Betty (Jo) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Myrtle Maybe Willow wrote this to? > > > > Hey Myrtle, let me know if it helps. > > I was just wondering if you're feeling any better taking the MMS? > > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 No, I wrote that in December 2008, shortly before I got extremely ill from the MMS. I wish someone had warned me about the toxicity before I tried it. I no longer do stupid things like that. myrtle > > > > > > Hey Myrtle, let me know if it helps. > > > I was just wondering if you're feeling any better taking the MMS? > > > Lou > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Myrtle when I read this that's exactly what I thought had happenedSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, "Myrtle" <myrtle_maui@...> wrote: No, I wrote that in December 2008, shortly before I got extremely ill from the MMS. I wish someone had warned me about the toxicity before I tried it. I no longer do stupid things like that. myrtle > > > > > > Hey Myrtle, let me know if it helps. > > > I was just wondering if you're feeling any better taking the MMS? > > > Lou > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I wonder why Dr. Staninger advices against it? I have been considering it after hearing all the success stories, and I happened to read this the other day. The thing is, she doesn't explain what is wrong with it. I wonder if maybe somebody knows more about this.. (check "do not" #2) Morgellons Alert, Dangers of Experimenting On Yourself - Part Two June 5th, 2010 | Author: admin Back in February Dr. Staninger wrote a post for Healing Grapevine titled: Morgellons Alert - Dangers of Experimenting On Yourself This post offered a list of absolute no no’s for anyone diagnosed with Advanced NanoMaterials (aka Morgellons). She has since added three more no no’s to the list so we have published the full Top 10 list here for you… Dr. Staninger says… “Let me start right now with a few “DO NOT DO” if you suspect you have contracted Morgellons: 1. Do not take any colloidal, ionic, or nano silver products. All forms of silver are extremely cumulative once they enter body tissues, and very little is excreted. It will accumulate in the body and excrete primarily in the intestinal colon. It will make silver protein when mixed with halogen based oxides and has been associated with cellular and embryonic tissue death. Please beware of Colloidal Silver Companies offering a “cure” for Morgellons. Also stay away from Ionic Gold and Monatomic Gold, etc…No Metals! 2. Do not take MMS, sodium chlorite. 3. Do not use R.I.F.E therapy or any other Zapper type electro magnetically charged therapy due to the possible interaction of nano piezo electrical devices and nano metal composites. This is a preview of Morgellons Alert, Dangers of Experimenting On Yourself - Part Two. Read the full post (651 words, 1 image, estimated 2:36 mins reading time) On 5/26/2010 5:55 AM, healinghope wrote: MMS: HOW DOES IT WORK? If MMS Can Destroy All Sorts of Pathogens, Why Doesn't It Also Harm Normal Body Cells? What do Chlorine Dioxide Ions Do In My Body After I Drink MMS? By Staff This article describes a universal antibiotic that appears able to destroy-on-contact some or all of the viruses and bacteria listed on the "Chart of Pathogens." Even one drop of the Miracle Mineral Solution produces significant chlorine dioxide that targets germs, bacteria, and viruses while at the same time causing no damage to normal living cells. This ability of MMS to kill virtually all known pathogens has been known for over 70 years prior to Jim Humble's research. His contribution was to discover and establish a method for safely packaging and dispensing MMS so that the beneficial chlorine dioxide can be made available internally for the immune system to actively kill and remove unwanted pathogens. Before penicillin there were sulfa drugs. Before that there were home-spun remedies involving silver, gold, arsenic, blood-letting, herbs, and mustard poultices that made farmer's almanacs colorful. Elixir bottles were sold door to door in the distant history of most countries - and it continues today on the internet and email spam. The world searches for a magic health bullet. In some states 12 vacination injections are given to children soon after birth, continuing annually through the early school grades. Even with the best efforts of pharmeceutical scientists, diseases still flourish and large segments of the population are handicapped by diseases. You were born with an ingenious antibacterial agent. Your immune system automatically uses HEAT to destroy viruses and germs. HEAT is the body's native defensive way of killing pathogens. Raise the body temperature high enough and many pathogens will die from the heat. Your liver is also part of the intelligent immune system. While the brain provides ways for understand data coming in through eyes and ears, the liver has remarkable intelligence about body chemistry. It contains more blood than the heart or the head. With accuracy it differentiates between pathogens that harm the body and other nutrients that are acceptable or good to have in the blood. It's memory of prior diseases and former battles with flu, measles, mumps - even strange viruses that were fought off in the past - that bio-chemical memory is the basis for the immune system to release macrophage blood cells that crawl around in the extra-cellular fluids of your body and gobble up microbes. Left alone the immune system is a remarkable virus-slayer, so effective that you survived to read this page after hundreds of ancesters before you. MMS will be shown to be yet one more highly effective weapon that the immune system craves and welcomes. While not approved for use in the United States, there are clinics in Germany where they claim to cure cancer based on controlled and cyclic raising of body heat. It's published that President Regan went to Germany for this treatment, while desiring no publicity. We can't do this to outselves experimentally in a sauna because we don't have the equipment or skill to know what temperature limits are safe, nor the depth to which heat has penetrated the body. Carefully directed (but dangerous) microwaves may be part of the German heat therapy since their methods are not openly published. MMS (chlorine dioxide) appears to be the ultimate magic bullet that empowers the immune system maybe 1000% at assist the battle against pathogens and diseases. To understand how MMS can destroy most if not all body pathogens on the chart above (and without the use of heat) you must understand how MMS is superior to other "too aggressive" oxygen therapies. There are many clinical strategies for using increased oxygen to destroy pathogens. Germs can't live in the presence of pure oxygen. They become "oxidized" meaning that electrons are pulled from the walls of viruses or bacteria in the presence of excessive oxygen. Oxygenation is a common clinical method of killing cancer cells. Most cancers and tumors consist of cells that have stopped using oxygen to sustain their inner workings. Such cells commence rapid reproduction, using blood-sugar as the mechanism for wild unregulated growth. But,if strong oxygen can be directed to them, they collapse and vanish due to oxidation - similar to rusting. Oxygen, however, is TOO AGRESSIVE. In pure form it will kill living cells just as easily as cancer cells. In the case of ozone which is even more aggressive, you can point a stream of O3 at a rubber glove and it will quickly vaporize a hole through the glove. Use of oxygen in hope of killing pathogens or cancers require very cautious application. Some clinics have a sealed chamber where a patient can sit in an environment of slightly raised oxygen and raised pressure in hope that over time the person will be "oxygenated" throughout, thus killing pathogens and cancerous cells. You are probably familiar with the 79 cent brown bottle of hydrogen peroxide - water that has extra oxygen compressed into it. On the label it encourages users to brush their teeth with the peroxide, but also there are warnings. You should avoid keeping peroxide in the mouth more than a minute or two. It's very effective in killing germs in the mouth and around the teeth. It removes yeast and sulfur-producing-germs from the back of the tongue. Canker sores usually go away. The resulting foam in the mouth is probably more effective than bubbly toothpaste, and fluoride in toothpaste is a well-known poisonous waste, now shown since 2002 to be ineffective in preventing tooth decay. But continual use of peroxide as a mouthwash will eventually leave you with dead rotting flesh on the surface of the tongue. The bad taste and bad breath won't go away until you stop using peroxide for a while. Also we should not drink peroxide or take it internally because free-radical oxygen, if distributed into flesh, fat, or muscle, is destructive to living cells. That's why we take various anti-oxidant tablets ranging from ascorbic acid to antioxident capsules. Unbound oxygen, adrift in flesh is harmful to living cells and can destroy them or maybe toggle them off into cancerous forms. What we need is an oxygenating agent that kills pathogens specifically while doing no harm to normal human cells. MMS or chlorine dioxide is that agent. Over 340,000 people have purchased MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement), because it precisely eliminates body pathogens without harming normal living cells. Chlorine dioxide in the blood is not aggressive like oxygen - that is until it's attracted to a pathogen. Costing one or two cents per dose people mix it in the kitchen and drink it down. If used according to instructions, evidence shows that virtually total detoxification can be achieved as early as four days and up to two months depending on body chemistry, current state of health, nature of germ infestations, nature of illness (if any), and persistence of the user. Persons who follow and grasp the logic of the following paragraphs will have a basis for using MMS experimentally, observing their body's response as bacteria, viruses, parasites, and most heavy metals are removed from their bodies. We acquire pathogens without knowing it. They're the root cause of most diseases, suffering, pain, and mysterious ailments. If you aren't involved with MMS yet, the health benefits and testimonials are certainly amazing. This writer receives calls from people who can't contain their gratitude for unexpected improvements in health. Hundreds of testimonial statements about health recoveries are on hand and will be posted shortly. Many people who hoped for a specific improvement, reported that other minor ailments disappeared also. [ HERE ] at http://MiracleMineralStories.com/ Click on the "READ STORIES" button there. How does ClO2 do its magic? In a glass you mix one drop of MMS with five drops of unfiltered vinegar, or lemon juice, or citric acid, Swirl and let it activate for three minutes. Those two ingredients gradually find each other and they start to produce chlorine dioxide gas. The gas will continue to be produced slowly for up to one or two hours, gradually decreasing. The ClO2 gas is the ingredient that specifically targets and kills pathogens. Even as you smell it drifting through the air, it will be attracted to any air-borne germs and will silently kill them upon encounter. It's not a pleasant odor but it is very effective. After three minutes, you can add water so that you can drink it. It doesn't matter whether you add 1/4 or 1/2 or 2/3 cup of water. The valuable ClO2 gas becomes ions in the water. The same amount of gas will be produced in your stomach over the next two hours whether you add a little or a lot of water. To mask the taste, merely add more water. Some people make very weak black coffee and then drop the activated dose into a full cup of weak coffee. Others use very weak green tea to mask the taste. You are not weakening MMS by adding water because the two original ingredients have found each other and the ions of ClO2 will produce a given amount of gas regardless of the amount of water. The water or weak tea merely makes it palatable so you can drink it. Now for the explanation. As the gas is slowly released in the stomach, red blood cells pick up some of it. It looks like oxygen to the red blood cells. The blood has already come from the lungs where the normal amount of oxygen was picked up, but there are always some red cells that are looking to pick up oxygen and they happily pick up the chlorine dioxide gas and carry it throughout the body. The blood carries the gas and the gas has no attraction to normal body cells. The gas is "hungry" to find any object that has electrons to give up. Upon coming near any virus or pathogen, with sudden magnetic force it snaps into contact with the germ ripping four or five electrons from the wall of the pathogen. The internal parts of the pathogen fall apart unprotected by the normal outer shell. The fragments float away in the blood stream and eventually reach the liver where the intelligent liver sorts and marks the fragments as TOXINS to be sent to your elimination systems. What happened to the molecule of chlorine dioxide that did the killing? That MMS molecule in most cases cannot proceed to do more killings. Its appetite for electrons was satisified. It instantly transforms into two molecules of water and one molecule of salt (sodium chloride). We are not talking about water DROPS or salt crystals here. These are molecules. If you know the difference you won't be worried that you'll get too much salt in your blood. The salt on one potato chip would be something to keep you awake at night - not this single salt molecule. Blood has a normal salt level slightly less than sea water most of the time - it is essential and necessary. Each ClO2 gas molecule is self-sacrificing. It is used up after one or two killings. Unlike drug-store pills where you expect a chemical or drug to do a thousand things before being used up, this ClO2 gas gets used up rather quickly. Jim Humble was thoughtful in formulating MMS so that it continues to SLOWLY produce the gas for up to 1.5 to 2 hours allowing a slow, deliberate cleansing effect over time. Instructions are clear - start with one drop (mixed as above) morning and evening. Some agressive people jump in with 5 or 8 drops. This is risky because nausea and diahrea can hit suddenly. MMS can produce more floatsum and jetsum garbage in the blood than the elimination system can handle. Start slowly. Otherwise you'll be blogging somewhere saying that you were already sick and MMS made you sicker, SO START SLOWLY PLEASE. The second day mix two drops with ten drops of vinegar or citric acid - drink it anytime - morning, noon, and evening. A precise schedule is not a factor. Whenever the ClO2 gas is circulation, pathogens will gradually be cleared away. Don't proceed too rapidly. Most people are certain that nothing's happening - but they are wrong. MMS WILL FIND heavy metals, germs, yeast, fungus, and parasites and it is killing them - slowly - and your body is keeping up with the elimination of the garbage remains. Each day that you move up one drop, MMS is clearing the way for the next day's increased dose. By proceeding slowly, there are some people who gradually get up to 15 drops even three times a day and maintain that for a week without nausea. It depends on the state of your health and how extensively you were infested with pathogens. Also, it's up to you how many hours per day you want ClO2 in your blood stream. More is better, provided you don't tire of it and quit before you should. If you experience the slightest bit of nausea, slow down. Read the article about avoiding nausea altogether at http://MMS-articles.com MMS is less aggresive than oxygen. As you increase dosage, the gas is produced for only 1.5 to 2 hours. However, each day it goes further in your body because other pockets of pathogens were cleared yesterday. Diseases involving auto-immunity such as gravis, HIV, and others take longer to eliminate but eventually they yield to ClO2. Blood-borne diseases like malaria disappear from the blood in 10 hours to four days. In summary, how does MMS work? It "oxydizes" specific types of virus structures and cells - specifically only those that have electrons that can be plucked from its walls. As though struck by lightening, viruses crumble, bacteria collapse, yeasts disintegrate, skin moles crumble, heavy metal molecules float away, herpes expresses itself one last time and vanishes. MMS was Invented and packaged for internal use in 2001 by Inventor Jim Humble. Between 2001 and 2006 over 75,000 human volunteers demonstrated the amazing ability of MMS to rid the body of virtually any and all viruses, bacteria, fungi, yeast, and poisons. Now it's available on the internet for general use. A few doctors have begun to use MMS in their clinics claiming that MMS boosts the immune system. It radically detoxifies the body in ways similar to competing oxygen therapies but without harming any living body cells. For 70 years chlorine dioxide gas was used to eliminate bacteria from garden vegetables, and to purify city water supplies. It is the preferred method of removing anthrax from wherever it needs to be excised. It's used to bleach paper, and to detoxify ships, train stations, restrooms, and as a powerful deodizer. Now that we can take it internally as packaged in the MMS bottles, we are demonstrating that the immune system craves MMS and uses it like a bullet to target virtually every known pathogen. As the Jim Humble International Foundation springs into action - probably in September 2009 - various research programs will be funded that lend further proof to the experiential evidence we receive every day regarding health improvements and apparent healings from diseases. Future news letters will keep you informed about this exciting MMS discovery and its implications for all mankind. Please visit the Jim Humble Foundation Web Site at http://JimHumbleFoundation.org s .. In summary, Jim Humble formulated a way to produce chlorine dioxide in slow release form within the stomach. Beginning in 2001 many people who were doomed with malaria or TB were rescued and brought back to disease-free health by using MMS for pathogen removal. Those who follow the inventor's dosage and mixing instructions (posted at end of article) there is hope for recovery from all sorts of illnesses. These resources provide further information about MMS: http://MMSnews.org Sign up for MMS news aand updates. http://MMS-articles.com/instructions.htm Jim Humble's official protocols for mixing and using MMS. http://MMSresellers.com MMS can be purchased from this off-site approved laboratory. http://JimHumbleFoundation.org Jim Humble's knowledge-base of diseases and MMS answers. Site Content: Copyright © 2008, 2009 Institute for Advanced MMS Studies,LLC. . Clickable Email: JIM@... 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This page informs people about an option that non-professional people sometimes use as experimental researchers. These MMS web sites describe MMS for limited internal and external use. The wide use of chlorine dioxide and its descriptions do not and can not represent the practice of medicine. These MMS pages assume no responsibility for how people use or understand these descriptive materials. No products are sold or shipped from this web site. No money is collected or billed. Copyright © 2008, 2009. Institute for Advanced MMS Studies, LLC. All Rights Reserved. > > > > Hi Betty, > > > > I must warn that MMS didn't work for me and many other people here and that it is dangerous when taken in high dosages. It made me and some others sick. There seems to be no silver bullet for this thing, but a combination of things seems to improve the situation for most people. You can make life more bearable with a combination of methods. Dr. Staninger's protocol seems to help many. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: jo_btc jo_btc@ > > bird mites > > Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 1:20:30 PM > > Subject: MMS > > > >  > > Thank You Marie for the information. I am so in dire need of all the help I can get. Do I need citus acid to activate this? I am so sorry but I dont know anything about things like this. Lynn is getting me started on a regiment for the inside. Can you tell me what you do for your house. I am wondering about the cedercide for animals, is that what you use in your home? Well can you tell me what you have used that worked the best for you. I have had knee surgeries (both knees) > > guess this got my immune system way down. I would love to get them out of my house once and for all. Lynn is using the orange plus, I am kinda afraid my mites might laugh at that but who knows? lol What all have you used in your fogger? I have lots of questions and I hope you dont mind me emailing you. I have been so discouraged for so long that I am excited that you guys might can help me get some relief. Thank you Marie. I hope I have your name right but that (if I remember right) > > is what Lynn called you. > > Blessings > > Betty (Jo) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Lynn You did not open anything not all ready open:) I agree with your insight very thoughtful and consider of all considering their own treatment. > > Hi all > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > In Light Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I'm leary of using MMS internally because I already have very low blood pressure - but I'm desperate enough to consider it anyway. Is it as effective used externally? Marie, are you cured? We have ordered the fogger, bifen, cyanara (?), delta dust, and a hand duster (for the walls)... Jst hoping all of this did the trick for you. Also - what should I do with my kitchen? Are the dishes safe in cupboards? Or should a put them in plastic (I know to pack them up while spraying)? Should we spray each cupboard inside? Is this a life long problem or do some people just get better? It worries me. I have so many stupid questions - sorry. > > > > Hi all > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Lee I am over this! Took over a year, lots of money, and some real trials and tribulations. Yes if using bifen in the fogger I put dishes in bathtub and cover well with plastic, tape down. Hint if using duct tape it may be hard to get off:) Open cupboard doors. When dry it will be safe to place dishes back. Bifen is safe to use around foodstuffs, this however doe's not mean it is safe to spray directly on. MMS can be very effective used externally especially if parasites are considered on the skin. I could not have beat this without mms baths, at least. Also the lye lotion soap is a winner for me. If you are thinking of using the MMS best get ordering before the FDA go's any further. You can beat this, don't give in to this creature! > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I have sand or salt like granules all over me as well. Once you spray with bifen for instance - how often do you repeat and for how long? Sorry - I WAS an all natural girl - never sprayed - that was until my daughter has a rash all over her face... So I know absolutely nothing about this. How often do you think we should repeat with Delta dust? How often should we wash the walls and floors? I vacuum everyday and wash with bleach water every other day right now - is that enough? We are also spraying with Nylar - do you know how often we should repeat with that product? Thanks so much > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 The bifen should last for 14 days during infestation, after control repeat every 2 months. I understand the natural I feel the same. If concerned with areas of children and pets use orange guard, has been effective and economical for me. Delta Dust if not wet will last at least 4 months. Of course the dust is not real toxic. The cyonara is toxic use only outside! Do around foundation, edge of sidewalks, under decks. Keep children and pets off until dry! Cyonara will last 2 months. I have reapplied in areas the bugs were still visible, for me it was springtials. For your child's rash I really wish you would try some lye lotion, just keep away from eyes. I would bathe the children and wash their hair with lye lotion, this is as natural as grandma:) Also for wash fels naptha is a winner for me. It also works as a natural pesticide. I have saved hundreds of dollars making my own laundry soap, and it works to kill poison ivy and bugs. http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ Also bag balm is safe and has helped me. Also bought at the feed store, my feed store is now selling lye soap to with the lye lotion recipe. Until the FDA warning they were considering MMS to. > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Washing floors and walls was not real effective for me, others have said it was? The wall voids were big for me, edges of carpet, edges of foundation, sidewalks, porches, decks. Around the edge of ceilings, anywhere there is a crack or crevice, treat. > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think the granules are eggs. > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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