Re: illogical dishonest arguments to scare people

[Guest guest]

I agree Bob, nothing good has come from HIV medications.  When I started taking

them I was told to get on probiotics and on Selenium that was advise from a good

nutritionist and it was mandatory for me to qualify for ADAP to get nutritional

advise for a year.  While probiotics replenish you with the good bacteria ARVs

kill the Selenium helps with the Cell damage that these ARV's do as well.  So

people who do thrive with HIV meds make the lifestyle change and take additional

supplements and focus on nutrition which the nutritionist's advice and I believe

that's why they live so long but make the assumption that it's the ARV's that

are effective when in reality it's the lifestyle change.  Either way they are

still working with poison but finding ways to combat it little by little.  When

I got off of Atripla I did get a bad case of thrush or Candida but that went

away with a low carb diet, oil of oregano, cream of tartar and probiotics.  It

didn't

last long at all.  And like you said that is manageable. 

From: Bob D <muckblit@...>

Subject: illogical dishonest arguments to scare people

cures for AIDS

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:26 PM

 

That one scare piece is so lazy-minded. Presumably

everyone died taking HIV drugs which are self-proclaimed

hematoxins and liver loading toxins. That is being called

" full blown AIDS " . A scare piece never cites an equal

number of cases with and without HIV drugs and where

both groups received treatment for opportunistic infections

and diseases and equal nutrition.

I have watched people die of anemia from HIV drugs aka

hematoxins. It takes three months to suffocate. Doctors

are refusing to explain that stopping HIV meds will remove

the hematoxins at the source, period. Someday people will

look at taking HIV meds until anemia kills as the same as

carbolic acid for smallpox and eating with lead pewter for

plates, bowls, cups, knives and forks.

I have watched people go ten years HIV+ without symptoms

if they don't take the drugs. Sick if they take the drugs. Well

ten years and even HIV- if they stopped taking the drugs.

HIV drugs reduce thrush and candidas albicans some for

a little while but the side effect is death. It is very easy to

attack candidas albicans and thrush without side effects

using probiotics, caprylic acid capsules, fiber and water,

reducing sugar and white flour intake, pau d'arco tea,

and many other natural methods.

-Bob

[Guest guest]

Don, I believe that you have a good theory here but just like one theory does

not apply to all, I don't believe this theory of why they are living longer is

because of additional nutritional supplements because many many people are not

doing anything extra other than taking the drugs and then taking other drugs to

manage the side effects of those drugs.  I've seen several people who have been

positive for years who live an UNHEALTHY lifestyle by smoking cigarrettes,

drinking alcohol, partying, having multiple sex partners, etc and they are still

alive and seemingly " ok. "  They will tell you right off the bat that they take

their HIV meds, altho they look like crap they are still alive.  Like I have a

friend in Florida who snorts cocaine but he says he takes meds and is

" undetectable. "

Randall

From: Bob D <muckblit@...>

Subject: illogical dishonest arguments to scare people

cures for AIDS

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:26 PM

 

That one scare piece is so lazy-minded. Presumably

everyone died taking HIV drugs which are self-proclaimed

hematoxins and liver loading toxins. That is being called

" full blown AIDS " . A scare piece never cites an equal

number of cases with and without HIV drugs and where

both groups received treatment for opportunistic infections

and diseases and equal nutrition.

I have watched people die of anemia from HIV drugs aka

hematoxins. It takes three months to suffocate. Doctors

are refusing to explain that stopping HIV meds will remove

the hematoxins at the source, period. Someday people will

look at taking HIV meds until anemia kills as the same as

carbolic acid for smallpox and eating with lead pewter for

plates, bowls, cups, knives and forks.

I have watched people go ten years HIV+ without symptoms

if they don't take the drugs. Sick if they take the drugs. Well

ten years and even HIV- if they stopped taking the drugs.

HIV drugs reduce thrush and candidas albicans some for

a little while but the side effect is death. It is very easy to

attack candidas albicans and thrush without side effects

using probiotics, caprylic acid capsules, fiber and water,

reducing sugar and white flour intake, pau d'arco tea,

and many other natural methods.

-Bob

[Guest guest]

Well hun, if you're convinced that it's the medications that's keeping them

alive well then by all means.....take them.  I'm just here to tell you what I

know about AZT, what they do to your body, what the Nobel prize medical

scientific professionals are saying.  My message is that people like me, and

like the many others we've seen on television are living well and thriving

without pharmaceutical drugs.  Some of you guys seem to just look at the people

living on drugs and going by their example, despite what they look like and

knowing well what AZT does to your body.  That's because you're scared and you

want to believe the medical community.  That's fine.  If it makes you worry

less and if gives you less stress then take the AZT.  Stress is very tough on

the body, what ever makes you less stressed then the better.

From: Bob D <muckblit@...>

Subject: illogical dishonest arguments to scare people

cures for AIDS

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:26 PM

 

That one scare piece is so lazy-minded. Presumably

everyone died taking HIV drugs which are self-proclaimed

hematoxins and liver loading toxins. That is being called

" full blown AIDS " . A scare piece never cites an equal

number of cases with and without HIV drugs and where

both groups received treatment for opportunistic infections

and diseases and equal nutrition.

I have watched people die of anemia from HIV drugs aka

hematoxins. It takes three months to suffocate. Doctors

are refusing to explain that stopping HIV meds will remove

the hematoxins at the source, period. Someday people will

look at taking HIV meds until anemia kills as the same as

carbolic acid for smallpox and eating with lead pewter for

plates, bowls, cups, knives and forks.

I have watched people go ten years HIV+ without symptoms

if they don't take the drugs. Sick if they take the drugs. Well

ten years and even HIV- if they stopped taking the drugs.

HIV drugs reduce thrush and candidas albicans some for

a little while but the side effect is death. It is very easy to

attack candidas albicans and thrush without side effects

using probiotics, caprylic acid capsules, fiber and water,

reducing sugar and white flour intake, pau d'arco tea,

and many other natural methods.

-Bob

[Guest guest]

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From: Bob D <muckblit@...>

Subject: illogical dishonest arguments to scare people

cures for AIDS

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:26 PM

 

That one scare piece is so lazy-minded. Presumably

everyone died taking HIV drugs which are self-proclaimed

hematoxins and liver loading toxins. That is being called

" full blown AIDS " . A scare piece never cites an equal

number of cases with and without HIV drugs and where

both groups received treatment for opportunistic infections

and diseases and equal nutrition.

I have watched people die of anemia from HIV drugs aka

hematoxins. It takes three months to suffocate. Doctors

are refusing to explain that stopping HIV meds will remove

the hematoxins at the source, period. Someday people will

look at taking HIV meds until anemia kills as the same as

carbolic acid for smallpox and eating with lead pewter for

plates, bowls, cups, knives and forks.

I have watched people go ten years HIV+ without symptoms

if they don't take the drugs. Sick if they take the drugs. Well

ten years and even HIV- if they stopped taking the drugs.

HIV drugs reduce thrush and candidas albicans some for

a little while but the side effect is death. It is very easy to

attack candidas albicans and thrush without side effects

using probiotics, caprylic acid capsules, fiber and water,

reducing sugar and white flour intake, pau d'arco tea,

and many other natural methods.

-Bob