Re: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

[Guest guest]

These press releases are neccesary in order to keep the funding stream going.

 HIV/AIDS researchers have to maintain huge cashflows.     When they get

really desparate you will read of a vaccine around the corner.

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

 

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you

guys have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

I doubt a vaccine will ever happen.  The would mean they would have to expose

the body to the HIV virus and allow the body to create the antibody necessary to

" fight " the virus.  So you'll have non-infected and infected people running

around with the antibody it's going to be impossible to determine who has the

virus and who hasnt' because doctors go by testing for the AntiBody.  If you

ask me that's complete bull shit.  A doctor once told me if you have the

Antibody that means you've had exposure to the virus therefore it's in your

system and that make you HIV positive. 

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

 

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Most vaccines are made from manufactured virus. They do not use live active real

virus for them.

As for HIV if they vaccinate then people without the virus would test positive

for the antibody test but would always be undectable on the viral load test.

Since the viral load test is not absolute (it does not measure to zero) it would

be impossible to say who has the virus and who does not.

Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Some of us believe HIV to be a manufactured virus LOL!

 

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Interesting Doug ... makes sense.  I'm still confused tho guys ... has HIV

truly been isolated or not?  In the House of Numbers movie, a woman stated that

is has not been isolated.  Why don't they test for the virus itself instead of

antibodies?  I mean they measure the " viral load " so why in the hell can't they

just test directly for the freakin' virus?  I don't get it.

Randall

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

There is a test for the virus it self. That is how they test to see what strain

of the virus you have. The test is very very expensive and not easy to do. To

contain costs they only test for antibodies which is a relatively cheep and easy

test to do.

Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Don, you make me laugh. I have heard that and I do not know what to say about

it.

Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Here is a good comparison: Some people think we are free in this country. They

have no idea.

Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

That is VERY important info you have brought us there Doug.  There have been

people on this forum as well as other places online that suggest that the virus

doesn't exist.  You have just stated that there is an expensive way that they

CAN test for the ACTUAL HIV virus and can even tell which strain a person has.

 So if that's the case, HIV no doubtedly exists!

Randall

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

You have just stated that there is an expensive way that they CAN test for the

ACTUAL HIV virus and can even tell which strain a person has. So if that's the

case, HIV no doubtedly exists!

HIV definitely exists. Using an electron microscope they have seen the HIV

virus. Both Dr Gallo and the Dr at the Louis Pasture institute in Paris have

seen it when they discovered it. I thought it was common knowledge to HIVers

that people in Africa commonly have a different strain of HIV than people here

in the US commonly have. Yes they can test for the actual virus and isolate the

exact strain one has but it is expensive and difficult to do. They only do that

test if it is necessary for some reason. Compared to the virus, antibodies are

huge and are easy to detect. There is some assumptive thinking in that if you

have antibodies you must have the virus. A vaccine would change all that. I bet

when there is a vaccine all those who have antibodies face the same stigma us

poz folks face today.

Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

I bet when there is a vaccine all those who have antibodies face the same stigma

us poz folks face today. 

....and for that very reason,  I don't think that day will come, do you?  I

think it would be too chaotic ... I just can't see that happening.   " The way

it's set up now " is least confusing and keeps the cash flowing in for the " AIDS

business. "  I do believe it is a business that the giants don't want to lose.

 What do you guys think?

Randall

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

After almost 30 yrs there has been no isolation of pure virus,  Im not saying

there is no virus, but it cannot be isolated.      Possibly the best

literature on this subject is by the PerthGroup.com                  

          Oxidative stress is the best explanation so far, and the

discoverer of HIV ( Montagnier.nobel prize for his discovery ) has even admitted

he did NOT isolate.

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

The issue is not about whether or not HIV exists, but rather whether or not it

causes AIDS...that's where people disagree.  Duesberg has it in his lab and

says it just sits there and doesn't kill anything.  Everyone believes it causes

AIDS because Gallo said it did.  Unfortunately, he didn't provide any proof nor

has anyone been able to replicate his findings.

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

So where does this vaccine put people who are HIV positive?  Will these

" strands " fight the HIV this is already inside us?

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

Yes hunny. My boyfriend brought an article home that explains everything.

Basically, with these new antibodies they found it is possible to eliminate the

HIV virus for those who already have it and also for those who do not have it.

Basically, this is a very big leap forward towards a cure. Please people, I

don't need to hear you guys saying that it will never come out because they

don't want to destroy the aids business. I know what you guys think. I'm just

giving you the info.

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

And it's actually 91%, not 90... Before this finding, they had found antibodies

that could kill about 40%, so this is a very big deal people.

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall

[Guest guest]

oh wow.  I figured they're finally realized it's about to time to get the ball

rolling since people are figuring out the dangers of pharmaceutial drugs and

it's only a matter of time before people learn how to care for themselves on

their own.  I really hope this does get approved.  The only advise I have for

those interested in taking the vaccine please don't be to quick to jump on the

wagon.  I haven't had a vaccine in a long time.  I know people who are on top

of every vaccine out there.  Trust me I won't be first in line to take this

thing.  I'm a wait behind a few people before I do this if I decide do this. 

Remember that the H1N1 gave people very ugly side effects.  One little boy from

Maine was even left paralized.  Working in clinical research I don't understand

how drugs take years to get FDA approval to assure the " safety and efficiency "

of the drug yet these vaccines are do quick to be thrown out in the market. 

There's no animal

tests (which are required to be done for clinical trial before they begin

testing in humans), there's no clinical trial data, and there's no reports of

adverse events in relation to the product etc.  So please take precaution.

 

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Antibody can destroy 90% of HIV strains

cures for AIDS

Received: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 12:24 PM

There are alot of articles about this new finding ... don't know if you guys

have heard of this or not yet but here's just one of the many articles:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-health-hiv-antibody-07082010,0,6105219.s\

tory

Randall