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I think you're beginning to get like me and I'm sure many others before us. 

You've been admant that " HIV " is the problem since you've been on the site and

it sounds like you're changing your mind.  I did the same thing.  Going to the

doctor over and over and hearing them tell me I was going to die, while looking

and feeling great.  I heard it from 2 different doctors for the three years. 

I made my appointments and wrote them checks for thousands of dollars.   These

days, I spend my money on treatments that I believe in...

 

Plenty of people on this site have told me I was crazy for spending $3000 on an

ozone generator.  I will say again that I owe my great health to that

machine.  Ozone is electricity; the same frequency as the life force within

us.  It can literally be called the breath of God.  I would rather have my

ozone generator than the best HIV doctor in the world.

 

I wanted to mention that I ordered the fermented papaya from Luc Montagnier's

company.  He said he has seen great success with it.  It's $65/box.  It's

called Immun' Age and here is the website...http://www.osatousa.com/.  I'll let

you all know what I think after I start on it next week.  That office is a

little flaky and weird.  The guy that runs it is not exactly on top of things,

but I did get the UPS tracking number yesterday, so it's on the way.

 

> Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long have you been

> taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how you feel over

> what you felt b4 you started taking them?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Ok here's the deal!

>

> Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

> The results are true ?

>

> I share the same experience as you and I was adviced to start on meds

> immediately else life will be at risk to

> Many types of infections and not able to fight off small infections..

>

> I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3 months I was not

> sick

> But doctor said viral load went up to

> 460,000.

>

> What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

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Yeah, my prospective hasn't changed much.   I still believe in HIV I just

believe now that it's just a passenger virus.  I can't sit here and listen to a

doctor telling me I'm in bad shape when I'm in the best shape of my life.  It

would be one thing if I was in and out of the hopsital or if I was constantly

getting sick but that's not the case.  I believe a lot of errors were made back

in the day and now they're too far into the sack to admit they've been wrong

this whole time.  There's got to be more people to come out and take a stand

and not get punked and scared into taking medications.  Medications are what

the problem is not the illnesses.

> Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long have you been

> taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how you feel over

> what you felt b4 you started taking them?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Ok here's the deal!

>

> Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

> The results are true ?

>

> I share the same experience as you and I was adviced to start on meds

> immediately else life will be at risk to

> Many types of infections and not able to fight off small infections..

>

> I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3 months I was not

> sick

> But doctor said viral load went up to

> 460,000.

>

> What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

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TCM stands for Traditional Chinese Medicine. It has been around for 3000 years

and there are millions of herbs combinations possible.

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On 30 Jul, 2010, at 2:34 AM, <luvtheozone@...> wrote:

> Happytype,

>

> What is TCM?

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long have you

> > > been

> > > > >

> > > > > > taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how you feel

> > > over

> > > > >

> > > > > > what you felt b4 you started taking them?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Ok here's the deal!

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

> > > > >

> > > > > > The results are true ?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I share the same experience as you and I was adviced to start on

> > > > > meds

> > > > >

> > > > > > immediately else life will be at risk to

> > > > >

> > > > > > Many types of infections and not able to fight off small

> > > > > infections..

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3 months I was

> > > not

> > > > >

> > > > > > sick

> > > > >

> > > > > > But doctor said viral load went up to

> > > > >

> > > > > > 460,000.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >

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OMG, did he really say that you would die within months?

 

 

Randall

> Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long have you been

> taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how you feel over

> what you felt b4 you started taking them?

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Ok here's the deal!

>

> Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

> The results are true ?

>

> I share the same experience as you and I was adviced to start on meds

> immediately else life will be at risk to

> Many types of infections and not able to fight off small infections..

>

> I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3 months I was not

> sick

> But doctor said viral load went up to

> 460,000.

>

> What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>

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Wow great numbers Donnell.  How long have you been on Atripla?  Have you

experienced any side effects whether internal, external, or emotional? 

Actually, I've heard some good things about Atripla.  If I ever give into HIV

drugs, that would be the one I'd push for.  I pray it never comes to that.  So

please let me know about those questions Donnell, thanks alot.

 

 

Randall

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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Anyone had been on meds before please share your experience..

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On 30 Jul 2010, at 10:05, Happytype <happytype@...> wrote:

> TCM stands for Traditional Chinese Medicine. It has been around for

> 3000 years and there are millions of herbs combinations possible.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On 30 Jul, 2010, at 2:34 AM, <luvtheozone@...> wrote:

>

> > Happytype,

> >

> > What is TCM?

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long

> have you

> > > > been

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how you

> feel

> > > > over

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > what you felt b4 you started taking them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok here's the deal!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The results are true ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I share the same experience as you and I was adviced to

> start on

> > > > > > meds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > immediately else life will be at risk to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many types of infections and not able to fight off small

> > > > > > infections..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3 months

> I was

> > > > not

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > sick

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > But doctor said viral load went up to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 460,000.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Suggest that you go to low dose naltrexone.org and download some info for your

doctor, as odds are he or she doesn't know anything about it. Even so, most will

not be receptive to it for many reasons, especially infectious disease doctors.

Don't give up the ship and keep searching until you find one who will prescribe

it to you. Join the LDN support group on , Crystal keeps a list of

prescribing doctors for each state. Many on the group may be able to help you in

finding a doctor where you live.

Once the CD4's have dipped low, one may not see improvement in them on being on

LDN. Nevertheless, I don't take it for anything to do with CD4's in the first

place. I find the benefit in other areas, as helping to keep me healthy. There

is no magic bullet out there, but many things can contribute to one's overall

well-being!

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Yea my I'd doc is pretty much of an ass. When I told him I had reservations

about the flu shot he asked me if I wanted to die. I had to remind him people

also due from the shot. He's pretty much a by the book CDC guidelines type of

guy. I pretty much have to take in a list of questions to make him answer just

to keep him engauged and know in not just a number but in in charge of my

treatment. I have a copy of the LDN report to take to him. In doubting he will

be receptive but at least u can pin him down and make him justify is stance

aganst it. My CD4 is bouncing allot right now going from the low 300s to high

500s. He's keeping a close eye on it but I know hed rather me go ahead and

submit to the meds as it would make his job easier. So any idea what's causing

my itching? Doesn't itch all the time, usually happens at night laying in bed

and mostly the backs of the legs and inner thighs. There's no rash or anything

and mainly feels like feathers dragging across my skin. I also get it on my

upper chest at times. Ill check out the ldn group and hopefully find a doc in

knoxville to get it from.

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Re: Ok here's the deal!

Suggest that you go to low dose naltrexone.org and download some info for your

doctor, as odds are he or she doesn't know anything about it. Even so, most will

not be receptive to it for many reasons, especially infectious disease doctors.

Don't give up the ship and keep searching until you find one who will prescribe

it to you. Join the LDN support group on , Crystal keeps a list of

prescribing doctors for each state. Many on the group may be able to help you in

finding a doctor where you live.

Once the CD4's have dipped low, one may not see improvement in them on being on

LDN. Nevertheless, I don't take it for anything to do with CD4's in the first

place. I find the benefit in other areas, as helping to keep me healthy. There

is no magic bullet out there, but many things can contribute to one's overall

well-being!

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Your itching could be candidiasis.  If I don't eat right and take care of

myself, mine flares up.  It's from years of antibiotic abuse.  However, I

can see it.  It's not real noticeable, but the texture of it is different than

normal, healthy skin.  And it itches like CRAZY.  My ozone sauna helps alot

with that.  Also, syntol is a good probiotic that addresses candida.

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Subject: Re: Re: Ok here's the deal!

cures for AIDS

Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 7:50 AM

 

Yea my I'd doc is pretty much of an ass. When I told him I had reservations

about the flu shot he asked me if I wanted to die. I had to remind him people

also due from the shot. He's pretty much a by the book CDC guidelines type of

guy. I pretty much have to take in a list of questions to make him answer just

to keep him engauged and know in not just a number but in in charge of my

treatment. I have a copy of the LDN report to take to him. In doubting he will

be receptive but at least u can pin him down and make him justify is stance

aganst it. My CD4 is bouncing allot right now going from the low 300s to high

500s. He's keeping a close eye on it but I know hed rather me go ahead and

submit to the meds as it would make his job easier. So any idea what's causing

my itching? Doesn't itch all the time, usually happens at night laying in bed

and mostly the backs of the legs and inner thighs. There's no rash or anything

and mainly feels like feathers dragging

across my skin. I also get it on my upper chest at times. Ill check out the ldn

group and hopefully find a doc in knoxville to get it from.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Ok here's the deal!

Suggest that you go to low dose naltrexone.org and download some info for your

doctor, as odds are he or she doesn't know anything about it. Even so, most will

not be receptive to it for many reasons, especially infectious disease doctors.

Don't give up the ship and keep searching until you find one who will prescribe

it to you. Join the LDN support group on , Crystal keeps a list of

prescribing doctors for each state. Many on the group may be able to help you in

finding a doctor where you live.

Once the CD4's have dipped low, one may not see improvement in them on being on

LDN. Nevertheless, I don't take it for anything to do with CD4's in the first

place. I find the benefit in other areas, as helping to keep me healthy. There

is no magic bullet out there, but many things can contribute to one's overall

well-being!

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I'd like to jump into the conversation.

I have been taking Atripla for almost a year now.

At first I had terrible nightmares, diahreah and had low energy.

I can't afford the drugs anymore.

I told my doc that I wanted to quit.

He said I can't now as the viral load will increase.

Do any of you have any experience to sahe with me?

I am very healthy.  I think I'm going to try Coidial Silver drops in water

everyday

and keep talking all the suppliments I take.

Gordon

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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I am new to this group.

I have been taking ATRIPLA for about 9 months now.

I frankly can no longer afford to buy it.

I am seriously considering going off it for good and taking Colloidal Silver as

well as

all the other food suppliments that I take.

CoQ10

Vitamin c, B complex, E, & D

Resveratrol

Cal Mag Zinz liquid

Selenium

Can anyone share their experience with me?

Am, I being too reckless?

Gordon

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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> From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

> Subject: Re: Ok here's the deal!

> cures for AIDS

> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 3:59 AM

> Suggest that you go to

> low dose naltrexone.org and download some info for your

> doctor, as odds are he or she doesn't know anything about

> it. Even so, most will not be receptive to it for many

> reasons, especially infectious disease doctors. Don't give

> up the ship and keep searching until you find one who will

> prescribe it to you. Join the LDN support group on ,

> Crystal keeps a list of prescribing doctors for each state.

> Many on the group may be able to help you in finding a

> doctor where you live.

>

> Once the CD4's have dipped low, one may not see improvement

> in them on being on LDN. Nevertheless, I don't take it for

> anything to do with CD4's in the first place. I find the

> benefit in other areas, as helping to keep me healthy. There

> is no magic bullet out there, but many things can contribute

> to one's overall well-being!

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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> > > > > > > > Mark, your on meds and

> your vl is that High? How long 

> > have you

> > > > > been

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > taking them? How do you

> feel? Do the meds mprove how you 

> > feel

> > > > > over

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what you felt b4 you

> started taking them?

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> > > > > > > > Did u seek a second

> opinion to confirm

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The results are true ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I share the same

> experience as you and I was adviced to 

> > start on

> > > > > > > meds

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > immediately else life

> will be at risk to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many types of infections

> and not able to fight off small

> > > > > > > infections..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I tried on coconut oil

> and silver colloidal for 3 months 

> > I was

> > > > > not

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sick

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But doctor said viral

> load went up to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 460,000.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What do u think?! Should

> I stop meds?

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> > > > > > > Mark, your on meds and your

> vl is that High? How long have you

> > > > been

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > taking them? How do you feel?

> Do the meds mprove how you feel

> > > > over

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > what you felt b4 you started

> taking them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless

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> > > > > > > Ok

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> > > > > > > Did u seek a second opinion

> to confirm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The results are true ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I share the same experience

> as you and I was adviced to start on

> > > > > > meds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > immediately else life will be

> at risk to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many types of infections and

> not able to fight off small

> > > > > > infections..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I tried on coconut oil and

> silver colloidal for 3 months I was

> > > > not

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > sick

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > But doctor said viral load

> went up to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 460,000.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do u think?! Should I

> stop meds?

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> > Mark, your on meds and your vl is that High? How long

> have you been

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> > taking them? How do you feel? Do the meds mprove how

> you feel over

>

> > what you felt b4 you started taking them?

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> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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> > Ok here's the deal!

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> > Did u seek a second opinion to confirm

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> > The results are true ?

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> > I share the same experience as you and I was adviced

> to start on meds

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> > immediately else life will be at risk to

>

> > Many types of infections and not able to fight off

> small infections..

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> > I tried on coconut oil and silver colloidal for 3

> months I was not

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> > sick

>

> > But doctor said viral load went up to

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> > 460,000.

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> > What do u think?! Should I stop meds?

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Like 4 1/2 months. I get depressed sometimes but eating breakfast in the morning

helps with that issue. My eyes are red sometimes too. I have also noticed sum

white small cirlces on the right side of my tongue. My doctor side it is normal

with some poz individuals.

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From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

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Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 8:24:53 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Ok here's the deal!

Wow great numbers Donnell. How long have you been on Atripla? Have you

experienced any side effects whether internal, external, or emotional?

Actually, I've heard some good things about Atripla. If I ever give into HIV

drugs, that would be the one I'd push for. I pray it never comes to that. So

please let me know about those questions Donnell, thanks alot.

Randall

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

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I got off Atripla and I'm so glad I did.  Atripla in the long run is going to

ruin you.  You should defninitly get on Probiotics and fish oil.  Cat's Claw

and Pau D'Arco are also really good a long with Essiac.

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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Try ozone therapy

Your viral load will be zero after 3 treatments

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On 31 Jul 2010, at 07:15, Les Sinclair <lessinclair@...> wrote:

> I'd like to jump into the conversation.

> I have been taking Atripla for almost a year now.

> At first I had terrible nightmares, diahreah and had low energy.

>

> I can't afford the drugs anymore.

> I told my doc that I wanted to quit.

> He said I can't now as the viral load will increase.

>

> Do any of you have any experience to sahe with me?

>

> I am very healthy. I think I'm going to try Coidial Silver drops in

> water everyday

> and keep talking all the suppliments I take.

>

> Gordon

>

>

>

> > Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

>

> > agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

>

> > had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

>

> > very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

>

> > itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

>

> > time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

>

> > skin is crawling.

>

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> >

>

> > Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> >

>

> > I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

>

> > for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

>

> > in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

>

> > will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

>

> > they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> >

>

> > To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

>

> > works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

>

> > for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

>

> > away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

>

> > take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

>

> > which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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Thank you for your reply Don.

My brother swears by Essiac.He had bowl cancer now it is in remission.He did

also have chemo and surgery.

I don't like the idea of talking poison for the rest of my life, how ever

long.I'm perfectly healthy and eat well.

Thanks again for your encouragement.

Les

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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I'll give it a try.

Thank you.

>

> > Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

>

> > agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

>

> > had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

>

> > very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

>

> > itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

>

> > time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

>

> > skin is crawling.

>

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> >

>

> > Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> >

>

> > I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

>

> > for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

>

> > in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

>

> > will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

>

> > they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> >

>

> > To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

>

> > works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

>

> > for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

>

> > away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

>

> > take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

>

> > which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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I agree that ozone is great, but don't necessarily expect your " HIV " to

disappear after three treatments.  Everyone is different, and you may more

toxic than others.  I've been doing ozone for about five years now and I have

seen some incredible results, but it is not necessarily an overnight miracle.

>

> > Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

>

> > agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

>

> > had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

>

> > very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

>

> > itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

>

> > time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

>

> > skin is crawling.

>

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> >

>

> > Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> >

>

> > I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

>

> > for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

>

> > in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

>

> > will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

>

> > they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> >

>

> > To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

>

> > works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

>

> > for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

>

> > away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

>

> > take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

>

> > which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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Haribol,

Do you have copies of the Special Virus Programme Reports at all as I have been

trying to purchase then but I been unable to.

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CC: AB19131@...

From: ab19131@...

Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:10:43 -0400

Subject: Re: Ok here's the deal!

CAUSE SOMETHING IS GOING ON. LIES ARE BEING TOLD. AND THERE ARE TRICKS.

START WITH THE ORIGIN OF AIDS,THE DOCUMENTARY . THEN SEE THIS " SPECIAL VIRUS

PROGRAM " LINK BELOW, THEN COME BACK FOR MORE...ADREFORTHEWORLD

_The U.S. Special Virus Program (1962-1978), Digital Archives by

Boydgraves.com_ (http://www.boydgraves.com/svcp/) In a message dated 7/28/2010

10:59:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nonyobiznazz@... writes:

Don, I'm just happy to hear that you look and feel great. Be honest tho:

Is there a part of you that feels a little bit afraid after seeing these

recent labs? You're one of the toughest characters here, but I know you

must get afraid just as any of us do. I try to be tough but there are times I

get a little weak but I try to not absorb myself in the negativity.

Randall

From: Don <_donjuan69uni@..._ (mailto:donjuan69uni@...) >

Subject: Ok here's the deal!

_cures for AIDS _ (mailto:cures for AIDS )

Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 1:04 AM

So I went to my doctor's. My T-Cells are 165 and my Viral Load is 17,000

so according to some standards I HAVE AIDS! Can someone tell my why I look

as healthy as I have ever been? Why I'm actually 25 pounds over weight,

why I haven't even gotten a cold in 13 months, why I'm so energized and I

have " AIDS. " I love my doctor and all but he was really trying to scare me

into getting on meds. I understood his concern and him not wanting to be

responsible for me getting sick and ending up on a death bed but I am NOT

going to get back on drugs. Numbers are bullshit I look and feel great and I

don't know what these " Labs " look for but it sure isn't in the interest of

the person's health. They probably measure Toxicity level. I'm not

worried about it nor do I care about what that damn piece of paper says! Mind

over body! It would be one thing if I was sick all the time and missing

work and not having the every to work out and go out dancing

every weekend but that's not the case with me. I'm cured and I know it.

HIV is just a passenger virus and I don't care what doctors or labs tell

you. Don't let them scare you! This is your health and your body you

should know it better. Medications are poison please don't resort to them. Get

your rest, exercise, natural cleansers and immune boosters and eat well.

You'll be fine. The Health department is going to inform every medical

facility that I'm sick and I don't care! It's all part of the scam.

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Haribol,

Do you have copies of the Special Virus Programme Reports at all as I have been

trying to purchase then but I been unable to.

cures for AIDS

CC: AB19131@...

From: ab19131@...

Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:10:43 -0400

Subject: Re: Ok here's the deal!

CAUSE SOMETHING IS GOING ON. LIES ARE BEING TOLD. AND THERE ARE TRICKS.

START WITH THE ORIGIN OF AIDS,THE DOCUMENTARY . THEN SEE THIS " SPECIAL VIRUS

PROGRAM " LINK BELOW, THEN COME BACK FOR MORE...ADREFORTHEWORLD

_The U.S. Special Virus Program (1962-1978), Digital Archives by

Boydgraves.com_ (http://www.boydgraves.com/svcp/) In a message dated 7/28/2010

10:59:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nonyobiznazz@... writes:

Don, I'm just happy to hear that you look and feel great. Be honest tho:

Is there a part of you that feels a little bit afraid after seeing these

recent labs? You're one of the toughest characters here, but I know you

must get afraid just as any of us do. I try to be tough but there are times I

get a little weak but I try to not absorb myself in the negativity.

Randall

From: Don <_donjuan69uni@..._ (mailto:donjuan69uni@...) >

Subject: Ok here's the deal!

_cures for AIDS _ (mailto:cures for AIDS )

Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 1:04 AM

So I went to my doctor's. My T-Cells are 165 and my Viral Load is 17,000

so according to some standards I HAVE AIDS! Can someone tell my why I look

as healthy as I have ever been? Why I'm actually 25 pounds over weight,

why I haven't even gotten a cold in 13 months, why I'm so energized and I

have " AIDS. " I love my doctor and all but he was really trying to scare me

into getting on meds. I understood his concern and him not wanting to be

responsible for me getting sick and ending up on a death bed but I am NOT

going to get back on drugs. Numbers are bullshit I look and feel great and I

don't know what these " Labs " look for but it sure isn't in the interest of

the person's health. They probably measure Toxicity level. I'm not

worried about it nor do I care about what that damn piece of paper says! Mind

over body! It would be one thing if I was sick all the time and missing

work and not having the every to work out and go out dancing

every weekend but that's not the case with me. I'm cured and I know it.

HIV is just a passenger virus and I don't care what doctors or labs tell

you. Don't let them scare you! This is your health and your body you

should know it better. Medications are poison please don't resort to them. Get

your rest, exercise, natural cleansers and immune boosters and eat well.

You'll be fine. The Health department is going to inform every medical

facility that I'm sick and I don't care! It's all part of the scam.

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yes hun anytime please feel free to message me.  Essiac will cleanse your

lymphatic system, many people have gotten cured from cancer and other bad

illnesses.  Proper diet and nutrition is the best way to stay healthy and live

longer. 

> Thanks noreen. I've been thinking I want to do the LDN 1st before a

> agree to the HIV meds to see how well it will do for me. I haven't

> had the talk with my doc on that yet and worry he's not going to be

> very receptive. Any advice in how to approach him with that? As for

> itching, I haven't know what that's about. Don't have it all the

> time but my chest and inner thighs itch like crazy sometimes like my

> skin is crawling.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Ok here's the deal!

>

> I totally agree, one must take care of oneself and be responsible

> for one's health. The commentor is right, mainstream is only trained

> in drugs, so if one is looking for support in natural products, one

> will be totally disappointed. Drugs are thier bread and butter, as

> they conviently forget " first do no harm! "

>

> To answer a question, I have been on LDN for 4 1/2 years and it

> works great. I have a lot of issues on my plate and it doesn't work

> for everything, but I find that it keeps all opportunistic diseases

> away, as I am not on the HAART. Several member of my family also

> take it. It is one drug that is highly recommended, as it is safe,

> which is more than you can say about most drugs.

>

>

>

>

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