Changed my mind...

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Okay nevermind. Other message in a seperate place.

Sorry for any garbage that gets included at the end.

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Ooooh, he found a spreadsheet? Gadzooks!

http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/general.msnw?

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Go here to read a bit of rebuttal to the whole " AIDS was created for biological

warfare "

first.

Look, I don't put this past people in the government to do things like this,

however what

people claim to be pictures of HIV are nothing like that because they can't even

isolate the

damn virus.

And the people who claim to have pictures of HIV, don't.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data2/slvirusphotos.htm

And whether or not the guvment was trying to create a virus to wreak biological

warfare, it

doesn't make much of a difference when it obviously wasn't effective, as AIDS,

even with

all the deaths by toxic drugs and deaths of 30 different diseases linked to HIV

if someone

was HIV positive, AIDs still kills less people a year than flu.

So conspiracy or not it didn't work. Because as it stands, HIV still has not

been proven to

be sexually transmitted:

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/miproblems.htm

Nor has it ever been proven to cause immune deficiencies.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/rrbmyths.htm

As for getting your " counts " down, even the founder of the polymyrase chain

reaction

states that viral load is total garbage when it comes to HIV.

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/kmforeword.htm

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjppcrap.htm

I would also like to point out though it may not mean anything, that Boyd

Graves, Hulda

and the others, seem to be out there to make money somehow.

http://asp.african-institute.org/articles.asp?indeks=186

People like Duesberg and Eleni Pappidopilus Eleopolus are not. I'm not

saying that

making money automatically makes people bad. Goodness knows that Null has

made a bit of money while championing his view. I've certainly taken advantage

of the

" Lemonade Cleanse " on occasion. However Duesberg and Dr. Eleopolis seem

to be

pure scientists. They may have separate views but they try to deal as best they

can with

facts, and have risked their careers and mucho moola by taking the stances they

do. If

Duesberg had just shut up and not tried to disprove his own theories of

retroviruses

and AIDS/Cancer, he would probably be sitting on a huge stack of money right

now,

instead of doing the best he can fighting cancer with his science in oncogene

studies.

Instead he realized that retrovirus' can't possibly cause disease because their

very nature

denies it. That is why he had to speak out. The father of Retrovirology

realized that they

don't cause any harm.

As long as we're at it, I tip my hat to " Wakeupallmankind " for your position and

want to

point out this recent article on HPV, because that whole thing just makes me

angry.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/334/7605/1182

I suppose if some idiot wants to subject themselves as a guinea pig to this

ridiculousness,

whatever. But don't you dare force girls to get this shot.

Also Ed??? Though Ron has said some wonderful things, I think he's just as

slimy as

the Dems and Republicans who are in people's pockets. I think he's just saying

what a lot

of people want to hear but I don't believe he is sincere. He seems relatively

neutral about

gay rights, but as a woman, I don't much like his " Sanctity of Life " views. He

thinks that

government should stay out of people's lives, but somehow, they should still

intervene

with a woman's governance on her own body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_

I guess... and I apologize to those who are deeply religious right now... that I

find it silly

that people think that humans have any more right to exist than a cockroach or a

prairie

dog. We eat eggs don't we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE & mode=related & search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awMvh8s2wtw

That said, I would prefer Ron to any republican right now. -__-

I'll leave you guys with that. That's a whole handful of stuff.

Happy 4th

On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:27 AM, D. Filips wrote:

Ok,

How about this: If HIV does not exist, then why do we have a lawyer (Boyd

Graves) who

discovered a flow chart with a virus that looks identical to what researchers

are reffering to

as HIV????? A Virus that was specifically created by our own Government for the

use of

biological warfare????????

aidsisover@... wrote: Forgot. Here's a link to Ron 's speeches.

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