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So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Kerri Landress <kerrilandress@...> wrote: Thank you so much to everyone for all the info and support. I was thrilled with the results, but then the next day I became very ill, (high fever, vomiting, SEVERE ear pain) I have been miserable this week with a raging inner ear infection. I have not had one since childhood and I am in terrible pain. I went to my PCP on Wed. and she said it was "one of the worst she had ever seen" put me on Augmentin EX and Vicodin for pain. I have a pulsating pain radiating down my neck, to my left eye, to the back of my head. The pain med only makes it tolerable... I am suffering! I am seeing a specialist ear nose and throat doctor tomorrow. They may have to drain the fluid out... I woder if my WBC are low again... maybe that's why I cannot fight this infection? I have been on the antibiotic for a week and it is NOT working. I

am scared because my hearing is gone in my left ear... the eardrum is bulging with infection and fluid. Has anyone gotten sick like this during tx? I have not been to my GI about this. I was doing fine before this happened. Now I'm depressed because I'm tired of feeling bad and I've missed four days of work. My husband is very worried because I am in so much pain and have lost EVEN MORE weight... now I am down to 95 pounds. If I can just get through my twelve more weeks... I'm sure it will be worth it!Lee <leecuatemsn> wrote: GREAT NEWS KERRI!!! That 12 week test makes it all worthwhile.Your halfway there.LEE>> hello

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Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure.Sharon Re: Re: undetectableSo sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week.I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take.Mel

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Not sure what kind of oregano oil you had used, but mine did not burn. It can be used topical or internal. They say that it is good for psoriasis too, bought my sister some cause she has that. MelSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my

experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A

bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel

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Not sure what kind of oregano oil you had used, but mine did not burn. It can be used topical or internal. They say that it is good for psoriasis too, bought my sister some cause she has that. MelSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my

experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A

bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel

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True, A lot of topic arthritis medications are made with extracts of the hottest peppers. LOL I am trying to think of the brand name. I think it is Caspian or something like that. But I have a friend that runs a plant nursery she has this large pepper plant in front of her store. She picks them and dries them out and makes all kinds of stuff from them. I just dropped a drop of the oil on my hand and burnt me like fire. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Take the ordinary things

of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

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True, A lot of topic arthritis medications are made with extracts of the hottest peppers. LOL I am trying to think of the brand name. I think it is Caspian or something like that. But I have a friend that runs a plant nursery she has this large pepper plant in front of her store. She picks them and dries them out and makes all kinds of stuff from them. I just dropped a drop of the oil on my hand and burnt me like fire. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Take the ordinary things

of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

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its Capsaisin Janet,, same thing they put in pepper spray that the police use,,, Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: True, A lot of topic arthritis medications are made with extracts of the hottest peppers. LOL I am trying to think of the brand name. I think it is Caspian or something like that. But I have a friend that runs a plant nursery she has this large pepper plant in front of her store. She picks them and dries them out and makes all kinds

of stuff from them. I just dropped a drop of the oil on my hand and burnt me like fire. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it

if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Jackie

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its Capsaisin Janet,, same thing they put in pepper spray that the police use,,, Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: True, A lot of topic arthritis medications are made with extracts of the hottest peppers. LOL I am trying to think of the brand name. I think it is Caspian or something like that. But I have a friend that runs a plant nursery she has this large pepper plant in front of her store. She picks them and dries them out and makes all kinds

of stuff from them. I just dropped a drop of the oil on my hand and burnt me like fire. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re: Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it

if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile Jackie

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I knew what I was talking about. LOL Just couldn't for the life of me yesterday think of how to spell it. Ha ha You for sure don't want to get that stuff in your eyes or any mucus membranes. Ouchieeeee Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: its Capsaisin Janet,, same thing they put in pepper spray that the police use,,, Janet

<doc_jade > wrote: True, A lot of topic arthritis medications are made with extracts of the hottest peppers. LOL I am trying to think of the brand name. I think it is Caspian or something like that. But I have a friend that runs a plant nursery she has this large pepper plant in front of her store. She picks them and dries them out and makes all kinds of stuff from them. I just dropped a drop of the oil on my hand and burnt me like fire. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxomsn> wrote: Mel, have you ever tried putting oregano oil anywhere near your skin?? It BURNS like the fires of hell. lol Not attacking, just telling you of my experience. It's worse than the hottest pepper seeds, for sure. Sharon Re:

Re: undetectable So sorry you are that sick, I have had a bid of sore throat and swollen gland in neck. I made it a point to sleep at least 10 or more hours a day, I work full time but do not do too much more than that. A bit of house work here and there and food shopping everyother week. I would say that it will not hurt to get plenty of rest and drink lots of fluids. I would suggest gargleing with salt water. There is also oregano oil that you can put under your tongue. I make everyone here at home do it if they get sick and I swer it knocks the infection right out. They also make capsules you can take. Mel Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a

smile Jackie Take the ordinary things

of life, and make them your own. Do the impossible with a smile

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As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway. There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test! I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about) Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974@...> wrote: I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway. There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test! I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about) Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974@...> wrote: I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway. There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test! I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about) Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974@...> wrote: I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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Patient to patient, It's not uncommon for treatment naive (people who've not been through anti-viral therapy) to achieve undetectable viral levels within a matter of weeks of starting treatment. The great news is, it means the medication is working as advertised. The other great news is that it means, as a patient on Atripla, you can enjoy the ease of 1 pill, once daily -- a luxury few of us enjoy. Now that you have achieved undetectable levels, your doctor will continue to monitor your CD4/VL for any change. A detectable level could indicate that your virus has grown resistant to your current regimen. Your doctor will certainly notify you of any concern should your Viral Load begin to rise again. I've heard many people can stay on the same indefinitely with no change, so it's not something you should stress about at present. (I'm nearly 4 years on mine, with no change in Viral Load.)

Given your already stellar CD4 count and percentage, don't be shocked if you only see modest or no increase in CD4 at all. Your CD4% is already that of an HIV- (40% is considered normal), and your CD4 absolute count is within range of an HIV- person as well (if maybe a little on the low side). According to http://www.pozireland.org/cd4_counts.htm , in uninfected, healthy individuals, counts should be 400-1200 in men, 500-1600 in women, though I've read elsewhere a 600-1200, etc, so it seems to vary about the range, depending on your source. Basically, you're doing pretty damned good. :-)

Please consult your doctor, or one of the many fine doctors on this forum for additional information. Hope this helps!!ChrisOn 6/11/07, 32824

<travis32824@...> wrote:

As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway.

There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test!

I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about)

Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974 > wrote:

I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as

not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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Patient to patient, It's not uncommon for treatment naive (people who've not been through anti-viral therapy) to achieve undetectable viral levels within a matter of weeks of starting treatment. The great news is, it means the medication is working as advertised. The other great news is that it means, as a patient on Atripla, you can enjoy the ease of 1 pill, once daily -- a luxury few of us enjoy. Now that you have achieved undetectable levels, your doctor will continue to monitor your CD4/VL for any change. A detectable level could indicate that your virus has grown resistant to your current regimen. Your doctor will certainly notify you of any concern should your Viral Load begin to rise again. I've heard many people can stay on the same indefinitely with no change, so it's not something you should stress about at present. (I'm nearly 4 years on mine, with no change in Viral Load.)

Given your already stellar CD4 count and percentage, don't be shocked if you only see modest or no increase in CD4 at all. Your CD4% is already that of an HIV- (40% is considered normal), and your CD4 absolute count is within range of an HIV- person as well (if maybe a little on the low side). According to http://www.pozireland.org/cd4_counts.htm , in uninfected, healthy individuals, counts should be 400-1200 in men, 500-1600 in women, though I've read elsewhere a 600-1200, etc, so it seems to vary about the range, depending on your source. Basically, you're doing pretty damned good. :-)

Please consult your doctor, or one of the many fine doctors on this forum for additional information. Hope this helps!!ChrisOn 6/11/07, 32824

<travis32824@...> wrote:

As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway.

There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test!

I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about)

Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974 > wrote:

I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as

not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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Patient to patient, It's not uncommon for treatment naive (people who've not been through anti-viral therapy) to achieve undetectable viral levels within a matter of weeks of starting treatment. The great news is, it means the medication is working as advertised. The other great news is that it means, as a patient on Atripla, you can enjoy the ease of 1 pill, once daily -- a luxury few of us enjoy. Now that you have achieved undetectable levels, your doctor will continue to monitor your CD4/VL for any change. A detectable level could indicate that your virus has grown resistant to your current regimen. Your doctor will certainly notify you of any concern should your Viral Load begin to rise again. I've heard many people can stay on the same indefinitely with no change, so it's not something you should stress about at present. (I'm nearly 4 years on mine, with no change in Viral Load.)

Given your already stellar CD4 count and percentage, don't be shocked if you only see modest or no increase in CD4 at all. Your CD4% is already that of an HIV- (40% is considered normal), and your CD4 absolute count is within range of an HIV- person as well (if maybe a little on the low side). According to http://www.pozireland.org/cd4_counts.htm , in uninfected, healthy individuals, counts should be 400-1200 in men, 500-1600 in women, though I've read elsewhere a 600-1200, etc, so it seems to vary about the range, depending on your source. Basically, you're doing pretty damned good. :-)

Please consult your doctor, or one of the many fine doctors on this forum for additional information. Hope this helps!!ChrisOn 6/11/07, 32824

<travis32824@...> wrote:

As I understand it, it means that your virus can't be detected with modern lab equipment, though you, of course, still have the virus. My lab, Quest, says undetectable is less than 50 copies of virus in a minute droplet of blood. (I think its microliters?). My ARNP says that once the virus creeps to undetectable levels, t cells should rise some, in theory, anyway.

There is normal viral load testing, and virus is undetectable at less than 400 copies, then the ultrasensitive viral load tests detects way down to 50.Congratulations of the test!

I just became undetectable myself and am thrilled. I haven't seen undetectable in about 2 years, though virus stayed around 35,000 on my drug holiday. (I was resistant to all meds, except protease inhibitors, until new experimental drugs came about)

Jeffery <scoobyjeff1974 > wrote:

I started Atripla back in March of 2007.My numbers before starting were viral load of 23,200, and CD4 count of 622, CD4 percentage 41%. The reason for starting Atripla was my decision (doctor gave me the choice to start then or wait a little while longer) due to the fact that it seemed my numbers kept falling.Anyhow, I have been on the Atripla for a little over 3 months and I am undetectable. What exactly does this mean? I hate to come across as

not

knowing what I am talking about, and I do not see my doctor for another month. Thank you for your help and time!!

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Sharon, yes dear your hair will come back. You will notice fuzzies (little short hairs) soon. I started getting them along the hair line first. Now I have long, long hair. My daughter will not let me cut it. Oh well it goes well with my native american features. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: I'm Sharon, finished 8 months of tx and quit. Just couldn't take it anymore, not as tough as many of you are. Anyway, 1 month after tx, I'm still undetectable. My doc won't do another for a year, but my family doc will. I'll wait til 6 months have passed and ask him for one. I'm still losing my hair, I usually have a very thick head of hair and have maybe a third of it left. I'm worried it won't come back, although I know it probably will. I'm starting to feel better, still tired and work in spurts, but better. YAY I'm 64 and retired, don't have tow ork anymore, so no problem. I'm actually getting out in the yard and doing some much needed work. Sharon It

is a beautiful day, go out and enjoy it.

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Sharon, yes dear your hair will come back. You will notice fuzzies (little short hairs) soon. I started getting them along the hair line first. Now I have long, long hair. My daughter will not let me cut it. Oh well it goes well with my native american features. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: I'm Sharon, finished 8 months of tx and quit. Just couldn't take it anymore, not as tough as many of you are. Anyway, 1 month after tx, I'm still undetectable. My doc won't do another for a year, but my family doc will. I'll wait til 6 months have passed and ask him for one. I'm still losing my hair, I usually have a very thick head of hair and have maybe a third of it left. I'm worried it won't come back, although I know it probably will. I'm starting to feel better, still tired and work in spurts, but better. YAY I'm 64 and retired, don't have tow ork anymore, so no problem. I'm actually getting out in the yard and doing some much needed work. Sharon It

is a beautiful day, go out and enjoy it.

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Oh, Sharon, You did awesome to last a full 8 months! That age factor, it really can make a difference and make it even harder on some of us, but clearly not always impossible. You are tougher than you know.. I am so pleased for you that you have remained undetectable! My prayer is that you.may be one of the lucky ones that remain clear. Good health to you! Big Hugs, Sheena SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: I'm Sharon, finished 8 months of tx and quit. Just couldn't take it anymore, not as tough as many of you are. Anyway, 1 month after tx, I'm still undetectable. My doc won't do another for a year, but my family doc will. I'll wait til 6 months have passed and ask him for one. I'm still losing my hair, I usually have a very thick head of hair and have maybe a third of it left. I'm worried it won't come back, although I know it probably will. I'm starting to feel better, still tired and work in spurts, but better. YAY I'm 64 and retired, don't have tow ork anymore, so no problem. I'm actually getting out in the yard and doing some much needed work. Sharon

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Oh, Sharon, You did awesome to last a full 8 months! That age factor, it really can make a difference and make it even harder on some of us, but clearly not always impossible. You are tougher than you know.. I am so pleased for you that you have remained undetectable! My prayer is that you.may be one of the lucky ones that remain clear. Good health to you! Big Hugs, Sheena SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: I'm Sharon, finished 8 months of tx and quit. Just couldn't take it anymore, not as tough as many of you are. Anyway, 1 month after tx, I'm still undetectable. My doc won't do another for a year, but my family doc will. I'll wait til 6 months have passed and ask him for one. I'm still losing my hair, I usually have a very thick head of hair and have maybe a third of it left. I'm worried it won't come back, although I know it probably will. I'm starting to feel better, still tired and work in spurts, but better. YAY I'm 64 and retired, don't have tow ork anymore, so no problem. I'm actually getting out in the yard and doing some much needed work. Sharon

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Sharon, You did what you could and that is all anyone can expect.. its NOT about being 'tough' honey.. Im hoping that you stay undetectible for ever,, you just might too!!! hang in there,, we all love ya!!! jackieSHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote: I'm Sharon, finished 8 months of tx and quit. Just couldn't take it anymore, not as tough as many of you are. Anyway, 1 month after tx, I'm still undetectable. My doc won't do another for a year, but my family doc will. I'll wait til 6 months have passed and ask him for one. I'm still losing my hair, I usually have a very thick head of hair and have maybe a third of it left. I'm worried it won't come back, although I know it probably will. I'm starting to feel better, still tired and work in spurts, but better. YAY I'm 64 and retired, don't have tow ork anymore, so no problem. I'm actually getting out in the yard and doing some much needed work. Sharon Jackie

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My Ex just got his results and he came back as -48 and his T-Cells were close to

1000.  He said it all changed when he added fish oil to his regimen. He's on

Selenuim pills, fish oil, Pau D' Arco Cat's Claw, and Essiac.  Sometimes he

takes Chaparral. 

From: Happytype <happytype@...>

Subject: Undetectable

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:59 AM

 

Is there anyone here that achieved viral load undetectable without the

help of meds?

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I did and wasn't even taking anything. I mean, NOTHING! Of course my viral load

is VERY low so I wouldn't say it is too hard for me to be undetectable.

From: Happytype <happytype@...>

Subject: Undetectable

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 4:59 AM

 

Is there anyone here that achieved viral load undetectable without the help of

meds?

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Don ,

What were his numbers before he took those supements? Has he ever took the meds?

Happytype

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On 28 Apr 2010, at 10:26 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote:

My Ex just got his results and he came back as -48 and his T-Cells were close to

1000. He said it all changed when he added fish oil to his regimen. He's on

Selenuim pills, fish oil, Pau D' Arco Cat's Claw, and Essiac. Sometimes he

takes Chaparral.

From: Happytype <happytype@...>

Subject: Undetectable

" cures for AIDS " <cures for AIDS >

Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:59 AM

Is there anyone here that achieved viral load undetectable without the help of

meds?

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Before that his numbers were in the Hundreds not in the Thousands but his

T-Cells were very low.  As long as I've known him he's never been on meds.  He

was diagnosed at the age of 18 he's 25 now and I believe he's only been on meds

once very early on.  But he's convinced the fish oil is what helped him.

From: Happytype <happytype (DOT) com>

Subject: Undetectable

" cures for AIDS@grou ps.com " <cures for AIDS@grou ps.com>

Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:59 AM

Is there anyone here that achieved viral load undetectable without the help of

meds?

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There is absolutely no one to my knowledge that has ever gone undetectable

through natural methods. I am a VERY firm believer in natural medicine and am

very much against taking toxic drugs and MANY MANY people have lowered their

viral load and increased their CD4 count though natural methods, but no one has

gone to undetectable through natural methods that I know of. In my humble

opinion though, it does not matter that you never reach an undetectable viral

load, but that you keep it low and your CD4 counts high in order to be healthy.

The goal is to stay healthy. Becoming undetectable through natural means is a

lovely idea, but not attainable for the average hiv+ person as far as I

know.Many people may argue with me on this, but I along with many others have

tried EVERYTHING natural under the sun and nothing natural works for that. That

being said, I would rather have a low viral count from natural methods than be

undetectable through unnatural toxic

methods.

From: Happytype <happytype (DOT) com>

Subject: Undetectable

" cures for AIDS@gro u ps.com " <cures for AIDS@gro u ps.com>

Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:59 AM

Is there anyone here that achieved viral load undetectable without the help of

meds?

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