Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Why get on antivirals if he never tested positive in the first place? Just find a good TCM traditional Chinese medicine doctor. Just by looking at your tongue, eyes and taking a very accurate pulse reading of bothe wrist, they can diagnose you in a couple of minutes while you can take multiple tests with a western doctor and never get a clear diagnosis. I had a gf who used to be in pain all day long and western doctors didn't know what she had. She had so many tests and crags that her hair started to fall. Finally, an iridologist told her what the problem was after a few seconds of looking in her eyes. The doctor later confirmed that she had endomistriosis. We became macrobiotic and the cyst was gone in 6 months. Your food can be your medicine if it is adapted to your condition. Happytype Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2010, at 10:33 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote: The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Why get on antivirals if he never tested positive in the first place? Just find a good TCM traditional Chinese medicine doctor. Just by looking at your tongue, eyes and taking a very accurate pulse reading of bothe wrist, they can diagnose you in a couple of minutes while you can take multiple tests with a western doctor and never get a clear diagnosis. I had a gf who used to be in pain all day long and western doctors didn't know what she had. She had so many tests and crags that her hair started to fall. Finally, an iridologist told her what the problem was after a few seconds of looking in her eyes. The doctor later confirmed that she had endomistriosis. We became macrobiotic and the cyst was gone in 6 months. Your food can be your medicine if it is adapted to your condition. Happytype Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2010, at 10:33 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote: The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Thx for god advise ... Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from du Re: hey anyone here in india?? Why get on antivirals if he never tested positive in the first place? Just find a good TCM traditional Chinese medicine doctor. Just by looking at your tongue, eyes and taking a very accurate pulse reading of bothe wrist, they can diagnose you in a couple of minutes while you can take multiple tests with a western doctor and never get a clear diagnosis. I had a gf who used to be in pain all day long and western doctors didn't know what she had. She had so many tests and crags that her hair started to fall. Finally, an iridologist told her what the problem was after a few seconds of looking in her eyes. The doctor later confirmed that she had endomistriosis. We became macrobiotic and the cyst was gone in 6 months. Your food can be your medicine if it is adapted to your condition. Happytype Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2010, at 10:33 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote: The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Thx for god advise ... Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from du Re: hey anyone here in india?? Why get on antivirals if he never tested positive in the first place? Just find a good TCM traditional Chinese medicine doctor. Just by looking at your tongue, eyes and taking a very accurate pulse reading of bothe wrist, they can diagnose you in a couple of minutes while you can take multiple tests with a western doctor and never get a clear diagnosis. I had a gf who used to be in pain all day long and western doctors didn't know what she had. She had so many tests and crags that her hair started to fall. Finally, an iridologist told her what the problem was after a few seconds of looking in her eyes. The doctor later confirmed that she had endomistriosis. We became macrobiotic and the cyst was gone in 6 months. Your food can be your medicine if it is adapted to your condition. Happytype Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2010, at 10:33 AM, " DOUG MAN " <dougman1@...> wrote: The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM we are having problems with the indian government not wantingg to provide meds and hiv test kits for our medical camp. need someone involved with aids awareness to guide us in what we need and how we might get it. any help is appreciated. we thught government was going to have these things for us now they say they cannot afford. nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Dougman,  If someone is telling you that they have an undetectable viral load, then why in the world would you think that they're problem stems from a virus that needs anti-viral medication? Seems totally ridiculous to me. You sound like my last doctor...  From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Dougman,  If someone is telling you that they have an undetectable viral load, then why in the world would you think that they're problem stems from a virus that needs anti-viral medication? Seems totally ridiculous to me. You sound like my last doctor...  From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hi , I understand what you are saying, but the circumstances and facts make it likely this person is positive. That is why I recommended they start antivirals ASAP. When I tested positive my doctor was not surprised. In fact the doctor expected my test to be positive because I had swollen glands for a year before the test and I had a bought of shingles over a year before the test and I was in a high risk group. Those three things indicated that my result would be positive. This person has unexplained body aches and unexplained weight loss. Although they did not mention it, I bet they have swollen glands as well. Muktari are you in a high risk group for HIV? I expect your HIV antibody test will be positive. I am very glad you are in this group. This is where you belong. Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Hi , I understand what you are saying, but the circumstances and facts make it likely this person is positive. That is why I recommended they start antivirals ASAP. When I tested positive my doctor was not surprised. In fact the doctor expected my test to be positive because I had swollen glands for a year before the test and I had a bought of shingles over a year before the test and I was in a high risk group. Those three things indicated that my result would be positive. This person has unexplained body aches and unexplained weight loss. Although they did not mention it, I bet they have swollen glands as well. Muktari are you in a high risk group for HIV? I expect your HIV antibody test will be positive. I am very glad you are in this group. This is where you belong. Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 the anti body test i did prove nonreactive and the problem started since last year october beginning,maybe i will recheck it again next month or two-three month after, yes dougman u are right.Thanks to u all. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 the anti body test i did prove nonreactive and the problem started since last year october beginning,maybe i will recheck it again next month or two-three month after, yes dougman u are right.Thanks to u all. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Have you unchecked for parasites/worms? They sound like a more plausible explanation for what you describe than an undetected virus! Most people have at least some, so I would do a parasite cleanse in your situation. Actually I did parasite cleansing and got out tons, even though I didn't have your symptoms or any others really. On Jun 8, 2010 6:31 AM, " Muktari Sani Ibrahim " <muktarisaniibrahim@...> wrote: the anti body test i did prove nonreactive and the problem started since last year october beginning,maybe i will recheck it again next month or two-three month after, yes dougman u are right.Thanks to u all. From: <luvtheozone@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 1:43 PM Dougman, If someone is telling you that they... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Have you unchecked for parasites/worms? They sound like a more plausible explanation for what you describe than an undetected virus! Most people have at least some, so I would do a parasite cleanse in your situation. Actually I did parasite cleansing and got out tons, even though I didn't have your symptoms or any others really. On Jun 8, 2010 6:31 AM, " Muktari Sani Ibrahim " <muktarisaniibrahim@...> wrote: the anti body test i did prove nonreactive and the problem started since last year october beginning,maybe i will recheck it again next month or two-three month after, yes dougman u are right.Thanks to u all. From: <luvtheozone@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 1:43 PM Dougman, If someone is telling you that they... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Well, keep testing until you get a positive ;o) Good luck. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Well, keep testing until you get a positive ;o) Good luck. From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 LET'S HELP PROMOTE AND VOTE FOR THIS PEOPLE!  http://pep.si/9tORLg  Pepsi funding for Aids Research. It's currently raking 6th, we need to make it 1st or 2nd to receive the funding that will go towards aids research for a cure.  From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 LET'S HELP PROMOTE AND VOTE FOR THIS PEOPLE!  http://pep.si/9tORLg  Pepsi funding for Aids Research. It's currently raking 6th, we need to make it 1st or 2nd to receive the funding that will go towards aids research for a cure.  From: DOUG MAN <dougman1@...> Subject: Re: hey anyone here in india?? cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:33 PM  The PCR HIV test is commonly known as " the viral load " . If your results are indictable it does not mean you are negative. It means your viral load is less than the test can measure. The test can only measure a load more than 50 copies per thousand ML of blood. If your viral load is less than that your results will be " indictable " . Notice they do not say negative. If you have body pains and unexplained weight loss you should be on antiviral medicine and the sooner the better. What are you waiting for? Re: hey anyone here in india?? wat type of test will i do to actually tell me true status of my body condition,bcoz i did PCR HIV TEST 1 & 2 but the result is undetective/negative and is like my body pains all the time and i lost weight.thanks .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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