Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

[Guest guest]

Swollen glands go away very quickly and painlessly with nothing more than

gentle bouncing on a rebounder. I would recommend about 40 minutes a day. You

should notice improvement almost immediately.

Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Wow Don, that was well said and very encouraging.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 3:25:56 PM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

Honestly Nonyo the power is in your hands. I thought I had gotten my life back

when I was on meds but all the fatigue and dry skin (which were side effects

from the meds) I came to accept all this because I was naive and I thought I was

to spend the rest of my life like this. As any sick person would do. Now that

I'm off meds and have done my research I have come to realize we don't need

these stupid toxic meds in our life. Like I mentioned before I feel completely

cured! Many of my friends on meds are going through fatigue, facial and body

wasting but they don't listen to me. They're too sucked into the sack! and

they don't have an open minded doctor as I do. I feel that the human body is a

wonderful tool and it has the ability to heal itself with the aid of natural

goods mother nature makes for us. Becareful what you put in and take out of

your body. I always take probiotics to replenish my body with good bacteria,

when we go to the

restroom we tend to lose these good bacterias along with all the bad ones. For

immune and anti oxidant purposes I take Cat's claw and for Lymphatic and blood

cleanse I take an ojibwa formula (or you can exercise on a Rebounder), and

because many people believe HIV to be Fungal and bacterial you can also take Pau

D'Arco on the side.. This is good weather youre healthy or not. These natural

products are very afforable. Plus I feel cured. People have to do their

homework and take matters into their own hands. You can be healed it's all up

to you. If you leave it in the hands of doctors then you'll NEVER get cured.

You'll only be TREATED!

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy

but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv, but the

meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look like that.

However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very embarassing altho

no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

hope it isn't lymphoma.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Wow Don, that was well said and very encouraging.

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 3:25:56 PM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

Honestly Nonyo the power is in your hands. I thought I had gotten my life back

when I was on meds but all the fatigue and dry skin (which were side effects

from the meds) I came to accept all this because I was naive and I thought I was

to spend the rest of my life like this. As any sick person would do. Now that

I'm off meds and have done my research I have come to realize we don't need

these stupid toxic meds in our life. Like I mentioned before I feel completely

cured! Many of my friends on meds are going through fatigue, facial and body

wasting but they don't listen to me. They're too sucked into the sack! and

they don't have an open minded doctor as I do. I feel that the human body is a

wonderful tool and it has the ability to heal itself with the aid of natural

goods mother nature makes for us. Becareful what you put in and take out of

your body. I always take probiotics to replenish my body with good bacteria,

when we go to the

restroom we tend to lose these good bacterias along with all the bad ones. For

immune and anti oxidant purposes I take Cat's claw and for Lymphatic and blood

cleanse I take an ojibwa formula (or you can exercise on a Rebounder), and

because many people believe HIV to be Fungal and bacterial you can also take Pau

D'Arco on the side.. This is good weather youre healthy or not. These natural

products are very afforable. Plus I feel cured. People have to do their

homework and take matters into their own hands. You can be healed it's all up

to you. If you leave it in the hands of doctors then you'll NEVER get cured.

You'll only be TREATED!

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@ ymail.com>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy

but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv, but the

meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look like that.

However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very embarassing altho

no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

hope it isn't lymphoma.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Ok thanks. Ironically, I saw one on my neighbor's front porch today. I'm going

to see if she wants to sell it.

________________________________

From: " aidsisover@... " <aidsisover@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:47:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

Swollen glands go away very quickly and painlessly with nothing more than gentle

bouncing on a rebounder. I would recommend about 40 minutes a day. You should

notice improvement almost immediately.

Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Ok thanks. Ironically, I saw one on my neighbor's front porch today. I'm going

to see if she wants to sell it.

________________________________

From: " aidsisover@... " <aidsisover@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:47:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

Swollen glands go away very quickly and painlessly with nothing more than gentle

bouncing on a rebounder. I would recommend about 40 minutes a day. You should

notice improvement almost immediately.

Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Why don't you all go on Humic and Fulvic acids? Its known as Shilajit in

ayurveda.

Here is a site with lab results showing the patient reverting back to

undetectable in months!!!

http://www.humichealth.info/userx.html

> From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

> cures for AIDS

> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps

> saying not to take the meds. Sometimes I feel scared to

> take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take them. At

> times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard

> the good and bad on both sides. There are cases where

> people have taken the meds and feel they have gotten their

> life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be

> healthy but they kinda " look deformed. " Something

> just tells me that's not hiv, but the meds doing that.

> I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look

> like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands which

> for me is very embarassing altho no one has ever said

> anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

> wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a

> doctor about it next week. I just hope it isn't

> lymphoma.

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> From: Noreen <noreenelaine@

> hotmail.com>

>

> cures for AIDS@grou

> ps.com

>

> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

>

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>

>

>

> If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on

> the web that lists who to contact in regards to doctors that

> are trained in giving hydrogen peroxide treatments. I was

> lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that these

> treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are

> a step in the right directions.

>

>

>

> I have found that in life and death situations, one must

> take matters into one's own hands, as mainstream

> medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

> diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many

> cannot wait for them to get with the program. Do your

> homework and listen to your gut feling and you will know

> what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough

> times, you can survive it!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why don't you all go on Humic and Fulvic acids? Its known as Shilajit in

ayurveda.

Here is a site with lab results showing the patient reverting back to

undetectable in months!!!

http://www.humichealth.info/userx.html

> From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

> cures for AIDS

> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps

> saying not to take the meds. Sometimes I feel scared to

> take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take them. At

> times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard

> the good and bad on both sides. There are cases where

> people have taken the meds and feel they have gotten their

> life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be

> healthy but they kinda " look deformed. " Something

> just tells me that's not hiv, but the meds doing that.

> I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look

> like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands which

> for me is very embarassing altho no one has ever said

> anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

> wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a

> doctor about it next week. I just hope it isn't

> lymphoma.

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> From: Noreen <noreenelaine@

> hotmail.com>

>

> cures for AIDS@grou

> ps.com

>

> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

>

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>

>

>

> If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on

> the web that lists who to contact in regards to doctors that

> are trained in giving hydrogen peroxide treatments. I was

> lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that these

> treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are

> a step in the right directions.

>

>

>

> I have found that in life and death situations, one must

> take matters into one's own hands, as mainstream

> medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

> diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many

> cannot wait for them to get with the program. Do your

> homework and listen to your gut feling and you will know

> what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough

> times, you can survive it!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

I was on Atripla for a couple of months.  I think it was damaging my liver

because the white part of my eyes was turning yellow.  Not to mention the itchy

dry skin and the fatigue.  When I started doing my reseach the Hydrogen

Peroxide therapy caught my attention.  All the information available on it

seemed to make sense.  I did look into Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS) but

there was very little information and evidence to support how effective it could

be for HIV.  Now I'm sure you know there is MMS2, which is fairly new and is

currently being studied.  From what I understand it's making tremendous

progress for people with HIV.  I'm still waiting for more information to be

available before I try it.  If I were you I would give the Hydrogen Peroxide

therapy a chance.  I feel that it's really changed my life.  I feel so alive

again!  Once I was half way into the therapy I added a couple of Natural

goodies to help me out.  I take 5000 mg of

Cat's Claw, 400 mg of Pau D'Arco, and 200 mg Ojibwa (Essiac).  Plus the

probiotics at night time.  It seems like a lot but I take my H2O2 first thing

in the morning then at lunch time I take the natural capsules all at once.  

Before bed I take the probiotics.  So that's my regimen.  Not to mention I go

to the gym 3-4 times a day.  I really hope you take this regimen into

consideration.  You can't go wrong with natural herbs.  Pau D'Arco for

instance comes from the Root of a Brazilian plant.  Roots carry anti fungal and

anti bacterial properties to protect the plant.  It could do that to a human

too.  That's why I trust the good things mother nature provides for us.  Not

some man made chemical experiment that's more toxic to the body than good. 

I'll tell you Atripla will reduce your " viral load " and increase your " Cell

count " but at what cost?  It damages your liver and your kidneys!  My mother

is in Dialysis because she was on her

diabetic meds for so long.  Yes they were regulating her sugar levels but they

were harming her kidneys.  If you go see a doctor for diabetes purposes or in

your case HIV purposes they're only going to concentrate on handeling the HIV,

they're not going to give a crap about the rest of your body.  I'm glad you're

thinking outside the box and taking control of your health.  You'll merge

victorious!  just wait and see.  Please keep us posted on your health.

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 5:50 AM

 

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

I was on Atripla for a couple of months.  I think it was damaging my liver

because the white part of my eyes was turning yellow.  Not to mention the itchy

dry skin and the fatigue.  When I started doing my reseach the Hydrogen

Peroxide therapy caught my attention.  All the information available on it

seemed to make sense.  I did look into Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS) but

there was very little information and evidence to support how effective it could

be for HIV.  Now I'm sure you know there is MMS2, which is fairly new and is

currently being studied.  From what I understand it's making tremendous

progress for people with HIV.  I'm still waiting for more information to be

available before I try it.  If I were you I would give the Hydrogen Peroxide

therapy a chance.  I feel that it's really changed my life.  I feel so alive

again!  Once I was half way into the therapy I added a couple of Natural

goodies to help me out.  I take 5000 mg of

Cat's Claw, 400 mg of Pau D'Arco, and 200 mg Ojibwa (Essiac).  Plus the

probiotics at night time.  It seems like a lot but I take my H2O2 first thing

in the morning then at lunch time I take the natural capsules all at once.  

Before bed I take the probiotics.  So that's my regimen.  Not to mention I go

to the gym 3-4 times a day.  I really hope you take this regimen into

consideration.  You can't go wrong with natural herbs.  Pau D'Arco for

instance comes from the Root of a Brazilian plant.  Roots carry anti fungal and

anti bacterial properties to protect the plant.  It could do that to a human

too.  That's why I trust the good things mother nature provides for us.  Not

some man made chemical experiment that's more toxic to the body than good. 

I'll tell you Atripla will reduce your " viral load " and increase your " Cell

count " but at what cost?  It damages your liver and your kidneys!  My mother

is in Dialysis because she was on her

diabetic meds for so long.  Yes they were regulating her sugar levels but they

were harming her kidneys.  If you go see a doctor for diabetes purposes or in

your case HIV purposes they're only going to concentrate on handeling the HIV,

they're not going to give a crap about the rest of your body.  I'm glad you're

thinking outside the box and taking control of your health.  You'll merge

victorious!  just wait and see.  Please keep us posted on your health.

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 5:50 AM

 

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being

hospitalized and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to

gradually reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.)

However, unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an

enteric coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a

doctor who would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form

and I had to pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me

obtain $1300 worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month

for the Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If

I can't find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get

justice the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and

damages the kidneys, liver, heart and other vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being

hospitalized and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to

gradually reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.)

However, unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an

enteric coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a

doctor who would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form

and I had to pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me

obtain $1300 worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month

for the Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If

I can't find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get

justice the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and

damages the kidneys, liver, heart and other vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

How is it addictive?  Now that I think is all in your head LOL!  No disrespect

to you Ed but I had no trouble at all getting off.  I don't know what would

make a drug like that addictive.  I didn't get no satisfaction from it to get

an addictive feeling.  Atripla doesn't give the body stimulation.  Either that

or whatever they were giving you wasn't Atripla.  I guess it just depends on

the person.  I would forget sometimes to take but I never went through no

withdraw the times i didn't.  I was getting my Atripla for free by using the

'Atripla assist program'.  If anyone out there is paying up the roof for these

drugs please don't!  There's alternate routes to take and programs that can

help you.  Of Course I would advise you to get off the drugs in the first place

but we're all adults here and we all can make our own decisions.  But like you

said Ed this med will damage all your vital organs.  I wish you the best of

luck with finding an

attorney I'm sure it's going to be a challenge. 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:41 AM

 

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being hospitalized

and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to gradually

reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.) However,

unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an enteric

coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a doctor who

would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form and I had to

pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me obtain $1300

worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month for the

Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If I can't

find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice

the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the

kidneys, liver, heart and other

vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

How is it addictive?  Now that I think is all in your head LOL!  No disrespect

to you Ed but I had no trouble at all getting off.  I don't know what would

make a drug like that addictive.  I didn't get no satisfaction from it to get

an addictive feeling.  Atripla doesn't give the body stimulation.  Either that

or whatever they were giving you wasn't Atripla.  I guess it just depends on

the person.  I would forget sometimes to take but I never went through no

withdraw the times i didn't.  I was getting my Atripla for free by using the

'Atripla assist program'.  If anyone out there is paying up the roof for these

drugs please don't!  There's alternate routes to take and programs that can

help you.  Of Course I would advise you to get off the drugs in the first place

but we're all adults here and we all can make our own decisions.  But like you

said Ed this med will damage all your vital organs.  I wish you the best of

luck with finding an

attorney I'm sure it's going to be a challenge. 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:41 AM

 

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being hospitalized

and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to gradually

reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.) However,

unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an enteric

coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a doctor who

would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form and I had to

pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me obtain $1300

worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month for the

Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If I can't

find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice

the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the

kidneys, liver, heart and other

vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

This must depend on the person, or perhaps it is the truvada part that

is addictive. I was on sustiva the longest of any of the meds I took,

and atripla for a while when it first came out. Then I think I

developed a resistant strain and switched to truvada and something

else, I think Issentress. Anyway, I had no withdrawal symptoms, and

then later when I stopped the Issentress and truvada, I again had no

symptoms. I have always been almost immune to side effects, so maybe

everyone is different in this regard.

On 12/17/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

>

> Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I

> was forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being

> hospitalized and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is

> to gradually reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and

> 25%.) However, unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills,

> Atripla is an enteric coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a

> year to find a doctor who would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada)

> in cutable form and I had to pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor

> Medicaid would help me obtain $1300 worth of drugs, although they had no

> problem paying $1700 a month for the Atripla. I'm still looking for an

> attorney to help me get justice. If I can't find one, I will represent

> myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice the old-fashioned way.

> Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the kidneys, liver,

> heart and other vital organs.

>

>

>

>

>

> [cures for AIDSe

>

>

>

>

> Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed

> too into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV

> does not cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds

> and then " something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am

> back on the couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help

> because they kill " whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

>

> I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

> will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

> benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has

> linked the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a

> weapon to clean the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the

> real culprit is. Next year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special

> lab), a deadly virus, that researchers have found 100% correlation in true

> AIDS cases.

>

> Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

> Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and

> must factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on

> the meds is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many

> negative risks. However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and

> may not have a choice in the matter for now.

>

> I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic

> acids, which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come

> from volanic ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I

> look into a lot of things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a

> product called, " miracle mineral supplement " which is ironic because it

> doesn't have minerals in it, it is basically stablized oxygen which can kill

> anerobic pathogens in one's body. You might want to type in Jim Humble and

> watch his video about this.

>

> As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to

> doctors, which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the

> ordinary and the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy

> pushing pills to the next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to

> take the Hippocratic Oath, first do no harm... haven't got a response from

> him yet! Won't hold my breath on that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded

> but maybe the experiences of one, may help others!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This must depend on the person, or perhaps it is the truvada part that

is addictive. I was on sustiva the longest of any of the meds I took,

and atripla for a while when it first came out. Then I think I

developed a resistant strain and switched to truvada and something

else, I think Issentress. Anyway, I had no withdrawal symptoms, and

then later when I stopped the Issentress and truvada, I again had no

symptoms. I have always been almost immune to side effects, so maybe

everyone is different in this regard.

On 12/17/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

>

> Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I

> was forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being

> hospitalized and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is

> to gradually reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and

> 25%.) However, unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills,

> Atripla is an enteric coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a

> year to find a doctor who would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada)

> in cutable form and I had to pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor

> Medicaid would help me obtain $1300 worth of drugs, although they had no

> problem paying $1700 a month for the Atripla. I'm still looking for an

> attorney to help me get justice. If I can't find one, I will represent

> myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice the old-fashioned way.

> Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the kidneys, liver,

> heart and other vital organs.

>

>

>

>

>

> [cures for AIDSe

>

>

>

>

> Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed

> too into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV

> does not cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds

> and then " something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am

> back on the couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help

> because they kill " whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

>

> I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

> will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

> benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has

> linked the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a

> weapon to clean the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the

> real culprit is. Next year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special

> lab), a deadly virus, that researchers have found 100% correlation in true

> AIDS cases.

>

> Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

> Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and

> must factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on

> the meds is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many

> negative risks. However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and

> may not have a choice in the matter for now.

>

> I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic

> acids, which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come

> from volanic ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I

> look into a lot of things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a

> product called, " miracle mineral supplement " which is ironic because it

> doesn't have minerals in it, it is basically stablized oxygen which can kill

> anerobic pathogens in one's body. You might want to type in Jim Humble and

> watch his video about this.

>

> As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to

> doctors, which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the

> ordinary and the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy

> pushing pills to the next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to

> take the Hippocratic Oath, first do no harm... haven't got a response from

> him yet! Won't hold my breath on that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded

> but maybe the experiences of one, may help others!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Read private investigator Baker's findings:

http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

How long were you taking it? I was on it for about six months before I tried

getting off. At first I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself

on the floor in the bathroom unable to get up. We had to call EMS. I ended up

back in the hospital on was put back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart

medications for chest pains I was getting.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

Read private investigator Baker's findings:

http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

How long were you taking it? I was on it for about six months before I tried

getting off. At first I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself

on the floor in the bathroom unable to get up. We had to call EMS. I ended up

back in the hospital on was put back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart

medications for chest pains I was getting.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

I was on it a little over a year.  It was Hell!  At times I couldn't get up on

time to make it to work.  I knew it was affecting me because I could hear it in

my speach.  My words were coming out funny.  I'm Texas born Mexican-American

and I speak perfect english and when I was on this I was talking as if I had

Northern Mexican accent.  I was such a weird side effect and I knew it was

affecting me neurologically.  Some people say they couldn't hear it but I

definitly did.  When I got off of it I didn't feel as if I was addicted.  But

like I said everyone is different.  I've learned that anything now a days

can lead to an addiction.  I'm glad you're off that awful med. 

From: aidsisoveraol (DOT) com <aidsisoveraol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:41 AM

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being hospitalized

and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to gradually

reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.) However,

unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an enteric

coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a doctor who

would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form and I had to

pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me obtain $1300

worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month for the

Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If I can't

find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice

the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the

kidneys, liver, heart and other

vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

I was on it a little over a year.  It was Hell!  At times I couldn't get up on

time to make it to work.  I knew it was affecting me because I could hear it in

my speach.  My words were coming out funny.  I'm Texas born Mexican-American

and I speak perfect english and when I was on this I was talking as if I had

Northern Mexican accent.  I was such a weird side effect and I knew it was

affecting me neurologically.  Some people say they couldn't hear it but I

definitly did.  When I got off of it I didn't feel as if I was addicted.  But

like I said everyone is different.  I've learned that anything now a days

can lead to an addiction.  I'm glad you're off that awful med. 

From: aidsisoveraol (DOT) com <aidsisoveraol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:41 AM

Good luck. Atripla is an addictive drug and is not that easy to stop. I was

forced to take it. Tried twice to quit on my own and ended up being hospitalized

and put back on it. The only safe way I know to get off it is to gradually

reduce the dosage over six weeks (2 weeks each at 75%, 50% and 25%.) However,

unlike most drugs where you can physically cut the pills, Atripla is an enteric

coated tablet and can't simply be cut. It took me a year to find a doctor who

would prescribe me the drugs (Sustiva and Truvada) in cutable form and I had to

pay for them myself. Neither the VA nor Medicaid would help me obtain $1300

worth of drugs, although they had no problem paying $1700 a month for the

Atripla. I'm still looking for an attorney to help me get justice. If I can't

find one, I will represent myself, and if I lose, I'm prepared to get justice

the old-fashioned way. Atripla has severe neurological effects and damages the

kidneys, liver, heart and other

vital organs.

[cures for AIDSe

Every one who commented gave wonderful advice. Like many, I was brain washed too

into taking the meds. As an AIDS rethiner, I know in my heart that HIV does not

cause AIDS. Yet, I go 2 to 2 1/2 years and do fine without the meds and then

" something " attacks my body, where I become extremely tired and am back on the

couch again. I'm one of the select few that the meds do help because they kill

" whatever " is attaching me and pulling me down.

I have been on Atripla for about a month and by my next visit in February, I

will again stop the meds. I think that for the short haul, there may some

benefit, but certainly not for the long haul. Also, an Italian study has linked

the HAART to increased cancers. For now, I can only use it as a weapon to clean

the slate clean so to speak, until I can find out what the real culprit is. Next

year, I am going to be tested for HHV6A (by a special lab), a deadly virus, that

researchers have found 100% correlation in true AIDS cases.

Personally, I would not use the meds without symptoms, as so many do.

Nevertheless, each of us are in different boats in regards to health and must

factor in our own experiences into the mix. I feel to place HIV+'s on the meds

is wrong unless one needs them because they do come with many negative risks.

However, some of us are or have been sicker than most and may not have a choice

in the matter for now.

I have tried most of the supplements recommended here except, the humic acids,

which I am going to look into. It makes sense, because they come from volanic

ash and could have something to do with " m " state elements. I look into a lot of

things in regards to health. Currently, I am taking a product called, " miracle

mineral supplement " which is ironic because it doesn't have minerals in it, it

is basically stablized oxygen which can kill anerobic pathogens in one's body.

You might want to type in Jim Humble and watch his video about this.

As stated by others, take care of your own health and don't leave it to doctors,

which most are only trained in drugs. They know nothing out of the ordinary and

the sad thing is, they don't want to know either, too busy pushing pills to the

next person. I asked my doctor why do they bother to take the Hippocratic Oath,

first do no harm... haven't got a response from him yet! Won't hold my breath on

that one. Didn't mean to be so long winded but maybe the experiences of one, may

help others!

[Guest guest]

ED!! That is a brilliant page of info. I hope people here read it. I have

tried to explain the mechanism of how the HIV drugs seem to " work " and then how

the body seems to start to " fail " when coming off them but that page is great

for such info.

>

>

> Read private investigator Baker's findings:

>

> http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

>

> How long were you taking it? I was on it for about six months before I tried

getting off. At first I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself

on the floor in the bathroom unable to get up. We had to call EMS. I ended up

back in the hospital on was put back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart

medications for chest pains I was getting.

>

>

[Guest guest]

ED!! That is a brilliant page of info. I hope people here read it. I have

tried to explain the mechanism of how the HIV drugs seem to " work " and then how

the body seems to start to " fail " when coming off them but that page is great

for such info.

>

>

> Read private investigator Baker's findings:

>

> http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

>

> How long were you taking it? I was on it for about six months before I tried

getting off. At first I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself

on the floor in the bathroom unable to get up. We had to call EMS. I ended up

back in the hospital on was put back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart

medications for chest pains I was getting.

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is more information about his reports here.

http://www.aidstruth.org/features/2009/clark-baker-ex-cop-and-homophobic-right-w\

ing-blogger

= M =

owner of a significant cat

> From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

> cures for AIDS

> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 12:06 PM

> ED!!  That is a brilliant page

> of info.  I hope people here read it.  I have

> tried to explain the mechanism of how the HIV drugs seem to

> " work " and then how the body seems to start to " fail " when

> coming off them but that page is great for such info. 

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >  Read private investigator Baker's

> findings:

> >

> >

http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

> >

> > How long were you taking it?  I was on it for

> about six months before I tried getting off.  At first

> I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself on

> the floor in the bathroom unable to get up.  We had to

> call EMS.  I ended up back in the hospital on was put

> back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart medications

> for chest pains I was getting.

> >

> > 

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is more information about his reports here.

http://www.aidstruth.org/features/2009/clark-baker-ex-cop-and-homophobic-right-w\

ing-blogger

= M =

owner of a significant cat

> From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

> cures for AIDS

> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 12:06 PM

> ED!!  That is a brilliant page

> of info.  I hope people here read it.  I have

> tried to explain the mechanism of how the HIV drugs seem to

> " work " and then how the body seems to start to " fail " when

> coming off them but that page is great for such info. 

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >  Read private investigator Baker's

> findings:

> >

> >

http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/05/has-sustiva-solved-hiv-mystery.html

> >

> > How long were you taking it?  I was on it for

> about six months before I tried getting off.  At first

> I thought I was OK, but after a few days I found myself on

> the floor in the bathroom unable to get up.  We had to

> call EMS.  I ended up back in the hospital on was put

> back on Atripla and other drugs, including heart medications

> for chest pains I was getting.

> >

> > 

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>