Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

[Guest guest]

**********

Hydrogen peroxide, diluted in water, is commonly used as a bleach and a

disinfectant. Some alternative health practitioners advocate drinking, injecting

or bathing in weak solutions of this chemical as a cure for AIDS, flu, cancer

and other illnesses. There is no evidence to support these claims. Several

people have died as a result of swallowing or injecting hydrogen peroxide.

***********

---I would like to add to this statement.  There's no scientific evidence

because no pharma company has taken the time and day to follow this protocol to

see if indeed it can work.  They are aware if therapies out there that can

potentially cure a person from any illness.  I can tell you I've been on this

therapy for 5 months and I have never felt better in my life.  Just the other

day I got over the flu in 2 days.  Then even better than before I was

diagnosed.  I do agree that people can die from swallowing or injecting this

substance because it is very concentrated and can be poisonus.  Its no

different than any other substance.  Alcohol for instance can also be deadly if

not used properly or if one doesn't drink responsibly, same thing with Tylenol

and other over the counter products.  People who bad mouth alternate

therapies don't know jack because they either haven't tried it or ignore the

testimonies given by honest people.  Hydrogen

Peroxide I'll tell you is a more natural substance than those stupid toxic meds

they try to shove down your throat!  The human body is wonderful thing, I

believe it has the ability to heal it self from anything with the proper God

made elements.  Suzanne Sommers healed herself form Cancer that way.  I do

believe Magic is also " healed " but yet here in " America " we can't

properly utilize our freedom of speech and call something a " Cure " because we

could end up in prison!

From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

I've posted videos, links, etc. I suggest you go and look at them and make your

own decisions.

They have struck fear into you, and that alone will kill a person. Sleep is the

first thing to go. That isn't your fault, that site you linked is just like all

the others. There is no new info in there. Debunking anything outside of their

designs is a tactic they've used for a very long time.

But I have to be careful of people online, all of you, nothing personal it's

just that there have been good people, caring people trying to help who have

been sued or done over in some way due to things they've said. Hence why I word

things in such a way that I cannot be done. I do not tell any of you not to take

medication and I caution others to never say that. This can be used against you,

and if someone dies they can find ways to point the finger at the alternative

industry or those in it, and have done many times. Even though according to them

on the one hand AIDS is a death sentence, they still try to blame the alt health

industry for the death of someone of AIDS that uses alt medicine. Does that make

sense to you?

The medical industry owns us all, we cannot speak freely, in any country, for

they can use these things against us, esp the USA, they're the most trigger

happy, the most frenzied to find other people to blame for whatever decisions

they make and path they take. They're the first to demand self governance yet

the first to dump it and find a scapegoat when adversity hits. So I have to work

within those parameters.

On the site you linked you'll find many flaws if you know what to look for. You

don't have to disbelieve in HIV to see those flaws. For instance, their info on

hydrogen peroxide is worded like this:

**********

Hydrogen peroxide, diluted in water, is commonly used as a bleach and a

disinfectant. Some alternative health practitioners advocate drinking, injecting

or bathing in weak solutions of this chemical as a cure for AIDS, flu, cancer

and other illnesses. There is no evidence to support these claims. Several

people have died as a result of swallowing or injecting hydrogen peroxide.

***********

Just in case the fear mongering tactics are not obvious, I'll point it out (just

in this one, I could do this with each and every paragraph they wrote). First,

they open with painting a picture of fear of it, as though h2o2 is like bleach,

but they are nothing alike. Then, they mention evidence. I've been researching

in this industry for 15 years, and the evidence they refer to is any expensive

clinical trial done at a gov't funded laboratory by highly lettered scientists.

They don't care about ANY other evidence, they simply don't count it. " Evidence "

to the medical industry is a peer reviewed entry into a science journal and

that's it.

There is evidence of oxygenation curing cancer. I have some on my cancer page.

The links between cancer and hypoxia (low oxygen in the cell) are massive. Yet

they suggested there isn't by saying there is a lack of evidence behind h2o2 as

the oxygenator. Unfortunately, it is very hard to get such evidence for h2o2

because it is seen as a bleach, and at best as a tooth whitener. To them, to do

a trial on peroxide would be like suggesting they did a trial on cyanide.

And the references to deaths are when 35% concentrations are used, which are

never advocated internally!

http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/ PMC2658134/

I mean, seriously, they've listed some sound, good therapies with child rape and

snake oil. But fact is that the worst they have to say about some of the better

ones is that there is a lack of evidence for their efficiency, or that the

evidence is based on something they don't accept.

Here are two things to consider (and there are many), a story about cranberries

and a story about stomach ulcers:

It was only about ten years ago when I was battling to have cranberry recognised

as a valid treatment for urinary infections. I was laughed at by many doctors.

The idea was ridiculed and rejected as " too simplistic " and " hippy herbal

rubbish " and " lacked evidence " and " it is an infection, you silly girl, and that

needs antibiotics! " But I plugged on, treating people with it and getting

success most of the time. Then a study was released in the medical journals

stating they had " discovered " that cranberry does not allow bacteria to stick to

the urinary wall, preventing and curing urinary infections. Sometime after this

my doctor mentioned to me that urinary infections could be treated with

cranberry and I said, " oh, really? Uh, don't you remember me saying this to you

years ago? " and he totally ignored me, head down, writing something at his desk

as he suddenly remembered. He had to. He couldn't face himself.

The story of stomach ulcers is long and disturbing. But I can put it in a

nutshell.

Perhaps you can remember being told that stress causes stomach ulcers. It's only

since 2005 that has shifted. The two Aussies that got the prize that year for

the discovery that stomach ulcers were actually caused by bacteria had made

their discovery in 1979! It was published in 1984! However, big companies such

as those that make ant-acids were " particularly antagonistic to the findings " .

http://www.wsws. org/articles/ 2006/mar2006/ nobe-m06. shtml

Almost 30 years of unnecessary suffering for people with excruciating stomach

ulcers, many of them bleeding to death internally. Mainstream medicine had the

information, it just didn't *like* the information. It didn't suit everyone

concerned, so it was shelved until it could be ignored no longer. Please keep

that in mind when you are overwhelmed with the desire to scream, " I can't

believe this tin-foil hat tripe, this couldn't happen, people aren't letting

others suffer horribly for money. Surely someone would stop it if that was

happening, right? "

Uh, yeah. Sure. If it helps you sleep at night... sure.

Our medical system is infantile. We are basically still blood letting compared

to how far we have to go. In a hundred years, what we do today will look as

medieval as 100 years ago looks to us now. Yet right now, what we do looks

sound, and logical, and based on the so-called " latest science " .

All I can say is research, try things, question things, don't accept ANYTHING,

and I mean ANYTHING, that you do not know as Truth. And there is only one thing

that passes as Truth, and that is experience. Everything else is hear-say. For

example, do you know for sure, ie, would you bet your loved one's life, on the

" fact " that the world is round? Chances are good it is, chances are good they

haven't faked pictures of earth and all that science. But would you really bet

your life on that? I hope not. Because it is not Truth until you experience it

yourself. Until YOU have gone up in a spaceship and seen that, with your eyes,

it is NOT truth, it is hear-say and subject to many variables.

Break things down into bite sized pieces of factual data. You can do this about

any subject matter. It also works with things like, " I am sick with HIV " because

when you look at the factual data, the fact is, you feel sick, you have (insert

symptom). Those are the facts. The rest is opinion, emotion, hear-say.

Truth is very rare. The rarest thing in life.

>

> Ran across this website... http://www.avert. org/cure- for-aids. htm

> Would like to hear what you guys think.

> Is there some truth in this website?

> I want to believe that they are wrong.

> Honestly, I am nervous and afraid, I can't lie.

> Yet, I refuse to take antiviral meds.

> I'm trying to convince myself that HIV is not real.

> I'm trying to convince myself that I will not have AIDS just because I have

tested positive.

> My health is not good.

> Please pray for the person that uses the email " nonyobiznazz@ ... " Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

**********

Hydrogen peroxide, diluted in water, is commonly used as a bleach and a

disinfectant. Some alternative health practitioners advocate drinking, injecting

or bathing in weak solutions of this chemical as a cure for AIDS, flu, cancer

and other illnesses. There is no evidence to support these claims. Several

people have died as a result of swallowing or injecting hydrogen peroxide.

***********

---I would like to add to this statement.  There's no scientific evidence

because no pharma company has taken the time and day to follow this protocol to

see if indeed it can work.  They are aware if therapies out there that can

potentially cure a person from any illness.  I can tell you I've been on this

therapy for 5 months and I have never felt better in my life.  Just the other

day I got over the flu in 2 days.  Then even better than before I was

diagnosed.  I do agree that people can die from swallowing or injecting this

substance because it is very concentrated and can be poisonus.  Its no

different than any other substance.  Alcohol for instance can also be deadly if

not used properly or if one doesn't drink responsibly, same thing with Tylenol

and other over the counter products.  People who bad mouth alternate

therapies don't know jack because they either haven't tried it or ignore the

testimonies given by honest people.  Hydrogen

Peroxide I'll tell you is a more natural substance than those stupid toxic meds

they try to shove down your throat!  The human body is wonderful thing, I

believe it has the ability to heal it self from anything with the proper God

made elements.  Suzanne Sommers healed herself form Cancer that way.  I do

believe Magic is also " healed " but yet here in " America " we can't

properly utilize our freedom of speech and call something a " Cure " because we

could end up in prison!

From: NS <calmlotusflower@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

I've posted videos, links, etc. I suggest you go and look at them and make your

own decisions.

They have struck fear into you, and that alone will kill a person. Sleep is the

first thing to go. That isn't your fault, that site you linked is just like all

the others. There is no new info in there. Debunking anything outside of their

designs is a tactic they've used for a very long time.

But I have to be careful of people online, all of you, nothing personal it's

just that there have been good people, caring people trying to help who have

been sued or done over in some way due to things they've said. Hence why I word

things in such a way that I cannot be done. I do not tell any of you not to take

medication and I caution others to never say that. This can be used against you,

and if someone dies they can find ways to point the finger at the alternative

industry or those in it, and have done many times. Even though according to them

on the one hand AIDS is a death sentence, they still try to blame the alt health

industry for the death of someone of AIDS that uses alt medicine. Does that make

sense to you?

The medical industry owns us all, we cannot speak freely, in any country, for

they can use these things against us, esp the USA, they're the most trigger

happy, the most frenzied to find other people to blame for whatever decisions

they make and path they take. They're the first to demand self governance yet

the first to dump it and find a scapegoat when adversity hits. So I have to work

within those parameters.

On the site you linked you'll find many flaws if you know what to look for. You

don't have to disbelieve in HIV to see those flaws. For instance, their info on

hydrogen peroxide is worded like this:

**********

Hydrogen peroxide, diluted in water, is commonly used as a bleach and a

disinfectant. Some alternative health practitioners advocate drinking, injecting

or bathing in weak solutions of this chemical as a cure for AIDS, flu, cancer

and other illnesses. There is no evidence to support these claims. Several

people have died as a result of swallowing or injecting hydrogen peroxide.

***********

Just in case the fear mongering tactics are not obvious, I'll point it out (just

in this one, I could do this with each and every paragraph they wrote). First,

they open with painting a picture of fear of it, as though h2o2 is like bleach,

but they are nothing alike. Then, they mention evidence. I've been researching

in this industry for 15 years, and the evidence they refer to is any expensive

clinical trial done at a gov't funded laboratory by highly lettered scientists.

They don't care about ANY other evidence, they simply don't count it. " Evidence "

to the medical industry is a peer reviewed entry into a science journal and

that's it.

There is evidence of oxygenation curing cancer. I have some on my cancer page.

The links between cancer and hypoxia (low oxygen in the cell) are massive. Yet

they suggested there isn't by saying there is a lack of evidence behind h2o2 as

the oxygenator. Unfortunately, it is very hard to get such evidence for h2o2

because it is seen as a bleach, and at best as a tooth whitener. To them, to do

a trial on peroxide would be like suggesting they did a trial on cyanide.

And the references to deaths are when 35% concentrations are used, which are

never advocated internally!

http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/ PMC2658134/

I mean, seriously, they've listed some sound, good therapies with child rape and

snake oil. But fact is that the worst they have to say about some of the better

ones is that there is a lack of evidence for their efficiency, or that the

evidence is based on something they don't accept.

Here are two things to consider (and there are many), a story about cranberries

and a story about stomach ulcers:

It was only about ten years ago when I was battling to have cranberry recognised

as a valid treatment for urinary infections. I was laughed at by many doctors.

The idea was ridiculed and rejected as " too simplistic " and " hippy herbal

rubbish " and " lacked evidence " and " it is an infection, you silly girl, and that

needs antibiotics! " But I plugged on, treating people with it and getting

success most of the time. Then a study was released in the medical journals

stating they had " discovered " that cranberry does not allow bacteria to stick to

the urinary wall, preventing and curing urinary infections. Sometime after this

my doctor mentioned to me that urinary infections could be treated with

cranberry and I said, " oh, really? Uh, don't you remember me saying this to you

years ago? " and he totally ignored me, head down, writing something at his desk

as he suddenly remembered. He had to. He couldn't face himself.

The story of stomach ulcers is long and disturbing. But I can put it in a

nutshell.

Perhaps you can remember being told that stress causes stomach ulcers. It's only

since 2005 that has shifted. The two Aussies that got the prize that year for

the discovery that stomach ulcers were actually caused by bacteria had made

their discovery in 1979! It was published in 1984! However, big companies such

as those that make ant-acids were " particularly antagonistic to the findings " .

http://www.wsws. org/articles/ 2006/mar2006/ nobe-m06. shtml

Almost 30 years of unnecessary suffering for people with excruciating stomach

ulcers, many of them bleeding to death internally. Mainstream medicine had the

information, it just didn't *like* the information. It didn't suit everyone

concerned, so it was shelved until it could be ignored no longer. Please keep

that in mind when you are overwhelmed with the desire to scream, " I can't

believe this tin-foil hat tripe, this couldn't happen, people aren't letting

others suffer horribly for money. Surely someone would stop it if that was

happening, right? "

Uh, yeah. Sure. If it helps you sleep at night... sure.

Our medical system is infantile. We are basically still blood letting compared

to how far we have to go. In a hundred years, what we do today will look as

medieval as 100 years ago looks to us now. Yet right now, what we do looks

sound, and logical, and based on the so-called " latest science " .

All I can say is research, try things, question things, don't accept ANYTHING,

and I mean ANYTHING, that you do not know as Truth. And there is only one thing

that passes as Truth, and that is experience. Everything else is hear-say. For

example, do you know for sure, ie, would you bet your loved one's life, on the

" fact " that the world is round? Chances are good it is, chances are good they

haven't faked pictures of earth and all that science. But would you really bet

your life on that? I hope not. Because it is not Truth until you experience it

yourself. Until YOU have gone up in a spaceship and seen that, with your eyes,

it is NOT truth, it is hear-say and subject to many variables.

Break things down into bite sized pieces of factual data. You can do this about

any subject matter. It also works with things like, " I am sick with HIV " because

when you look at the factual data, the fact is, you feel sick, you have (insert

symptom). Those are the facts. The rest is opinion, emotion, hear-say.

Truth is very rare. The rarest thing in life.

>

> Ran across this website... http://www.avert. org/cure- for-aids. htm

> Would like to hear what you guys think.

> Is there some truth in this website?

> I want to believe that they are wrong.

> Honestly, I am nervous and afraid, I can't lie.

> Yet, I refuse to take antiviral meds.

> I'm trying to convince myself that HIV is not real.

> I'm trying to convince myself that I will not have AIDS just because I have

tested positive.

> My health is not good.

> Please pray for the person that uses the email " nonyobiznazz@ ... " Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw

my mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that

I was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately,

most doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is

unfortuante. I belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light

years ahead of the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until

umteen studies have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for

this.

[Guest guest]

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw

my mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that

I was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately,

most doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is

unfortuante. I belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light

years ahead of the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until

umteen studies have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for

this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us.  I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide.  I've never done it

IV before but I do hear it's worked wonders.  A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure.  A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV. 

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body.  Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich.  You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources.  Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out.  I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV.  I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has

helped me out

tremendously.  My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a

copy of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could

proceed with this therapy if I wanted to.  Other doctors will argue with you

and convince you to take those toxic meds.  My friend asked his doctor

about hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment.  So I believe many doctors

do know what's good for the body but they don't share that information.   

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us.  I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide.  I've never done it

IV before but I do hear it's worked wonders.  A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure.  A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV. 

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body.  Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich.  You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources.  Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out.  I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV.  I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has

helped me out

tremendously.  My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a

copy of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could

proceed with this therapy if I wanted to.  Other doctors will argue with you

and convince you to take those toxic meds.  My friend asked his doctor

about hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment.  So I believe many doctors

do know what's good for the body but they don't share that information.   

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Don, that's awesome to hear you say that you feel you are cured!  I hope to

feel that way one day ... right now I am struggling with a chronic, and I mean

chronic sinus infection along with both ears chronically infected.  Glands are

swollen under both ears, both sides of neck, and one swollen in back of my

head as well. These glands have been swollen for a few years now since my

seroconversion.  I have tried zapping, colloidal silver, white tea, and apple

cider vinegar but no relief as of yet.  I'm so afraid to go to the doctor but

I'm getting desperate cause I cannot work because of this.  Question:  If I go

to a doctor and they say I have Aids, do I have to take the meds in order

to qualify for disability?

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:51:46 AM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

 

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us.  I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide.  I've never done it

IV before but I do hear it's worked wonders.  A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure.  A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV. 

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body.  Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich.  You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources.  Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out.  I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV.  I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has

helped me out

tremendously.  My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a

copy of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could

proceed with this therapy if I wanted to.  Other doctors will argue with you

and convince you to take those toxic meds.  My friend asked his doctor

about hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment.  So I believe many doctors

do know what's good for the body but they don't share that information.   

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Don, that's awesome to hear you say that you feel you are cured!  I hope to

feel that way one day ... right now I am struggling with a chronic, and I mean

chronic sinus infection along with both ears chronically infected.  Glands are

swollen under both ears, both sides of neck, and one swollen in back of my

head as well. These glands have been swollen for a few years now since my

seroconversion.  I have tried zapping, colloidal silver, white tea, and apple

cider vinegar but no relief as of yet.  I'm so afraid to go to the doctor but

I'm getting desperate cause I cannot work because of this.  Question:  If I go

to a doctor and they say I have Aids, do I have to take the meds in order

to qualify for disability?

Randall

________________________________

From: Don <donjuan69uni@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:51:46 AM

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

 

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us.  I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide.  I've never done it

IV before but I do hear it's worked wonders.  A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure.  A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV. 

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body.  Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich.  You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources.  Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out.  I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV.  I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has

helped me out

tremendously.  My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a

copy of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could

proceed with this therapy if I wanted to.  Other doctors will argue with you

and convince you to take those toxic meds.  My friend asked his doctor

about hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment.  So I believe many doctors

do know what's good for the body but they don't share that information.   

 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Dear Don ,

Would you mind sendinge a CPU of the One Minute Cure?

Thanks

Happytype

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Dec 2009, at 11:51 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote:

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us. I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide. I've never done it IV

before but I do hear it's worked wonders. A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure. A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV.

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body. Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich. You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources. Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out. I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV. I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has helped

me out

tremendously. My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a copy

of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could proceed

with this therapy if I wanted to. Other doctors will argue with you and

convince you to take those toxic meds. My friend asked his doctor about

hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment. So I believe many doctors do know

what's good for the body but they don't share that information.

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Dear Don ,

Would you mind sendinge a CPU of the One Minute Cure?

Thanks

Happytype

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Dec 2009, at 11:51 PM, Don <donjuan69uni@...> wrote:

Hi Noreen thank you for sharing this story with us. I do recall you had

mentioned you had, had experience with Hydrogen Peroxide. I've never done it IV

before but I do hear it's worked wonders. A specially trained professional

would have to do this procedure. A clinic in Dallas used to do this procedure

but I only know of a clinic in Acuña Mexico that specializes in H2O2 IV.

Oxygen is the best thing you can feed to your body. Everyone is crazy about

anti-oxidants now a days because it's is important for our blood and cells to be

oxygen rich. You story really help because I have heard stories like these but

I had never heard of anyone who's " reversed their death sentence " as they call

it in several H2O2 sources. Hydrogen Peroxide along with several natural

porducts is all the body needs to kick any illness out. I really do feel as if

I'm cured from HIV. I know my body and I really do feel this therapy has helped

me out

tremendously. My doctor wasn't aware of this therapy but I did give him a copy

of the " one minute cure " book and after reading it he told me I could proceed

with this therapy if I wanted to. Other doctors will argue with you and

convince you to take those toxic meds. My friend asked his doctor about

hydrogen peroxide and he refused to comment. So I believe many doctors do know

what's good for the body but they don't share that information.

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Randall. 

I don't think you have to be on their meds to qualify for disability.  At the

clinic I work in I see many patients with all kinds of illnesses many of them

not on meds with the disability qualification.  Then again it will depend on

your state also.   As fo your sinus infection, I know H2O2 will work wonders

for you.  Some people dilute it and flush their ears and sinuses with it.  You

should look into joining the hydrogen peroxide group.  For your sinus

infection if you don't want to go the H2O2 route I would look into getting some

Pau D.Arco tea.  That would help you out tremendously.  It also comes in Pill

form.  A combination of Essiac 200mg, Pau D'Arco 400mg, and Cat's claw 5000 mg

should do the trick.  They're all very inexpensive.  Here in Texas I get my

capsules at Sunharvest, I don't know if there's anything like this in your

area.  Probiotics are good too.  Everyone should be taking probiotics, healthy

or non healthy. 

Probiotics are the good bacterias our body needs, it can be found in yogurt, I

myself can't stand the taste of yogurt so I take them in capsule.  One more

thing, do you still have your tonsills and adnoids?  If you do you might want

to have your adnoids removed.  I hope you feel better.  Please don't ever

hesitate to ask me anything.  I'll try my best to help you out. 

 

hugs!

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Randall. 

I don't think you have to be on their meds to qualify for disability.  At the

clinic I work in I see many patients with all kinds of illnesses many of them

not on meds with the disability qualification.  Then again it will depend on

your state also.   As fo your sinus infection, I know H2O2 will work wonders

for you.  Some people dilute it and flush their ears and sinuses with it.  You

should look into joining the hydrogen peroxide group.  For your sinus

infection if you don't want to go the H2O2 route I would look into getting some

Pau D.Arco tea.  That would help you out tremendously.  It also comes in Pill

form.  A combination of Essiac 200mg, Pau D'Arco 400mg, and Cat's claw 5000 mg

should do the trick.  They're all very inexpensive.  Here in Texas I get my

capsules at Sunharvest, I don't know if there's anything like this in your

area.  Probiotics are good too.  Everyone should be taking probiotics, healthy

or non healthy. 

Probiotics are the good bacterias our body needs, it can be found in yogurt, I

myself can't stand the taste of yogurt so I take them in capsule.  One more

thing, do you still have your tonsills and adnoids?  If you do you might want

to have your adnoids removed.  I hope you feel better.  Please don't ever

hesitate to ask me anything.  I'll try my best to help you out. 

 

hugs!

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

 

I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw my

mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that I

was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately, most

doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is unfortuante. I

belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light years ahead of

the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until umteen studies

have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for this.

[Guest guest]

Why don't you all go on Humic and Fulvic acids? Its known as Shilajit in

ayurveda.

Here is a site with lab results showing the patient reverting back to

undetectable in months!!!

http://www.humichealth.info/userx.html

On Tue Dec 15th, 2009 4:55 PM CST Don wrote:

>Hi Randall. 

>I don't think you have to be on their meds to qualify for disability.  At the

clinic I work in I see many patients with all kinds of illnesses many of them

not on meds with the disability qualification.  Then again it will depend on

your state also.   As fo your sinus infection, I know H2O2 will work wonders for

you.  Some people dilute it and flush their ears and sinuses with it.  You

should look into joining the hydrogen peroxide group.  For your sinus

infection if you don't want to go the H2O2 route I would look into getting some

Pau D.Arco tea.  That would help you out tremendously.  It also comes in Pill

form.  A combination of Essiac 200mg, Pau D'Arco 400mg, and Cat's claw 5000 mg

should do the trick.  They're all very inexpensive.  Here in Texas I get my

capsules at Sunharvest, I don't know if there's anything like this in your

area.  Probiotics are good too.  Everyone should be taking probiotics, healthy

or non healthy. 

> Probiotics are the good bacterias our body needs, it can be found in yogurt, I

myself can't stand the taste of yogurt so I take them in capsule.  One more

thing, do you still have your tonsills and adnoids?  If you do you might want to

have your adnoids removed.  I hope you feel better.  Please don't ever hesitate

to ask me anything.  I'll try my best to help you out. 

> 

>hugs!

>

>

>

>From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

>Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

>

> 

>

>I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

>However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

>If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw

my mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that

I was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately,

most doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is

unfortuante. I belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light

years ahead of the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until

umteen studies have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for

this.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why don't you all go on Humic and Fulvic acids? Its known as Shilajit in

ayurveda.

Here is a site with lab results showing the patient reverting back to

undetectable in months!!!

http://www.humichealth.info/userx.html

On Tue Dec 15th, 2009 4:55 PM CST Don wrote:

>Hi Randall. 

>I don't think you have to be on their meds to qualify for disability.  At the

clinic I work in I see many patients with all kinds of illnesses many of them

not on meds with the disability qualification.  Then again it will depend on

your state also.   As fo your sinus infection, I know H2O2 will work wonders for

you.  Some people dilute it and flush their ears and sinuses with it.  You

should look into joining the hydrogen peroxide group.  For your sinus

infection if you don't want to go the H2O2 route I would look into getting some

Pau D.Arco tea.  That would help you out tremendously.  It also comes in Pill

form.  A combination of Essiac 200mg, Pau D'Arco 400mg, and Cat's claw 5000 mg

should do the trick.  They're all very inexpensive.  Here in Texas I get my

capsules at Sunharvest, I don't know if there's anything like this in your

area.  Probiotics are good too.  Everyone should be taking probiotics, healthy

or non healthy. 

> Probiotics are the good bacterias our body needs, it can be found in yogurt, I

myself can't stand the taste of yogurt so I take them in capsule.  One more

thing, do you still have your tonsills and adnoids?  If you do you might want to

have your adnoids removed.  I hope you feel better.  Please don't ever hesitate

to ask me anything.  I'll try my best to help you out. 

> 

>hugs!

>

>

>

>From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

>Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

>Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:09 AM

>

> 

>

>I would like to put my two cents in about hygrogen peroxide. It was claimed to

be used against the 1918 and 1919 flu epidemic, intranveinously. A minister

formed ECHO, Educational Concern for Hydrogen Peroxice, I belive in the 1930's,

which still can be found on line. I have not taken the liquid form as there is

some controversy about this.

>However, when I was extremely sick, due to incompetant doctors sending a

full-blown AIDS patient home without any medical treatment. I sought out an

alternative physician, who gave me 8 IV treatments of hydrogen peroxide along

with vitamins, etc. I attribute these treatments to saving my life, as on the

treatment days, although extremely sick, I could at least get up off the couch.

I believe that when oxygen is placed into the body, this is a good thing because

pathogens are anaroebic and most AIDS patients have numerrous pathogens

attacking their bodies.

>If needed, I would have these treatments again. Of course, when I finally saw

my mainstream doctors, they knew nothing about these treatments and thought that

I was nuts, along with the many supplements that I was taking. Unfortunately,

most doctors do not prescribe supplements to their patients, which is

unfortuante. I belive in alternative doctors, as I have found them to be light

years ahead of the mainstream, who won't do anything out of the ordinary until

umteen studies have been done. Some patients don't have the luxury to wait for

this.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Noreen 100% people need to start taking matters into their own

hands!  And do their own research!  I know many people who have been told

they were going to die then take control of their lives and they're here

with us today.   People need to stop relying on doctors!  They're not going

to Cure you they're going to keep you sick as long as possible to rank in the

money.  I believe the human body is a wonderful tool and has the ability to

heal it self without the aid of toxic meds and procedures. 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 8:15 AM

 

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Noreen 100% people need to start taking matters into their own

hands!  And do their own research!  I know many people who have been told

they were going to die then take control of their lives and they're here

with us today.   People need to stop relying on doctors!  They're not going

to Cure you they're going to keep you sick as long as possible to rank in the

money.  I believe the human body is a wonderful tool and has the ability to

heal it self without the aid of toxic meds and procedures. 

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 8:15 AM

 

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be

healthy but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv,

but the meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look

like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very

embarassing altho no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the

glands to shrink, I wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about

it next week. I just hope it isn't lymphoma.

________________________________

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be

healthy but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv,

but the meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look

like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very

embarassing altho no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the

glands to shrink, I wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about

it next week. I just hope it isn't lymphoma.

________________________________

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Honestly Nonyo the power is in your hands.  I thought I had gotten my life back

when I was on meds but all the fatigue and dry skin (which were side effects

from the meds) I came to accept all this because I was naive and I thought I was

to spend the rest of my life like this.  As any sick person would do.  Now

that I'm off meds and have done my research I have come to realize we don't need

these stupid toxic meds in our life.  Like I mentioned before I feel completely

cured!  Many of my friends on meds are going through fatigue, facial and body

wasting but they don't listen to me.  They're too sucked into the sack!  and

they don't have an open minded doctor as I do.  I feel that the human body is a

wonderful tool and it has the ability to heal itself with the aid of natural

goods mother nature makes for us.  Becareful what you put in and take out of

your body.  I always take probiotics to replenish my body with good bacteria,

when we go to the

restroom we tend to lose these good bacterias along with all the bad ones. 

For immune and anti oxidant purposes I take Cat's claw and for Lymphatic and

blood cleanse I take an ojibwa formula (or you can exercise on a Rebounder), and

because many people believe HIV to be Fungal and bacterial you can also take Pau

D'Arco on the side.  This is good weather youre healthy or not.  These natural

products are very afforable.  Plus I feel cured.  People have to do their

homework and take matters into their own hands.  You can be healed it's all up

to you.  If you leave it in the hands of doctors then you'll NEVER get cured. 

You'll only be TREATED!

 

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy

but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv, but the

meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look like that.

However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very embarassing altho

no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

hope it isn't lymphoma.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Honestly Nonyo the power is in your hands.  I thought I had gotten my life back

when I was on meds but all the fatigue and dry skin (which were side effects

from the meds) I came to accept all this because I was naive and I thought I was

to spend the rest of my life like this.  As any sick person would do.  Now

that I'm off meds and have done my research I have come to realize we don't need

these stupid toxic meds in our life.  Like I mentioned before I feel completely

cured!  Many of my friends on meds are going through fatigue, facial and body

wasting but they don't listen to me.  They're too sucked into the sack!  and

they don't have an open minded doctor as I do.  I feel that the human body is a

wonderful tool and it has the ability to heal itself with the aid of natural

goods mother nature makes for us.  Becareful what you put in and take out of

your body.  I always take probiotics to replenish my body with good bacteria,

when we go to the

restroom we tend to lose these good bacterias along with all the bad ones. 

For immune and anti oxidant purposes I take Cat's claw and for Lymphatic and

blood cleanse I take an ojibwa formula (or you can exercise on a Rebounder), and

because many people believe HIV to be Fungal and bacterial you can also take Pau

D'Arco on the side.  This is good weather youre healthy or not.  These natural

products are very afforable.  Plus I feel cured.  People have to do their

homework and take matters into their own hands.  You can be healed it's all up

to you.  If you leave it in the hands of doctors then you'll NEVER get cured. 

You'll only be TREATED!

 

From: Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

Subject: Re: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:40 AM

 

Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the meds.

Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel scared not to take

them. At times it seems no one really makes sense. I've heard the good and bad

on both sides. There are cases where people have taken the meds and feel they

have gotten their life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy

but they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv, but the

meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I don't look like that.

However, I do have visible swollen glands which for me is very embarassing altho

no one has ever said anything about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I

wouldn't feel so paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

hope it isn't lymphoma.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Noreen <noreenelaine@ hotmail.com>

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You may want to follow Ed's advice and spend $30 or so on a rebounder.

That is one of the simplest ways to move the lymph throughout the

body. Any exercise will help to move it, so go jogging, do situps or

jumping jacks--whatever you prefer.

Above all, know that you body can fight this and give it the tools to

do so! Detox is the most important part of this, IMO- starting with

colon cleansing. If your colon isn't emptying out the toxins, then

you will only get sick as they build up. Do yourself a favor and

read Louise Hay to help you with thinking positive. And please stop

reading the allopathic sites who's only purpose is to instill fear in

you so you will buy their poison. Fear is your worst enemy: if you

keep thinking about bad outcomes, you will invariably attract them to

you. Much better is to release the fear and take charge of your own

health with the knowledge that you CAN and WILL defeat this!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

wrote:

> Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the

> meds. Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel

> scared not to take them. At times it seems no one really makes

> sense. I've heard the good and bad on both sides. There are cases

> where people have taken the meds and feel they have gotten their

> life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy but

> they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv,

> but the meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I

> don't look like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands

> which for me is very embarassing altho no one has ever said anything

> about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I wouldn't feel so

> paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

> hope it isn't lymphoma.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>

>

> If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web

> that lists who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in

> giving hydrogen peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in

> town. I want to stress that these treatments may not be a cure-for-

> all, but they certainly are a step in the right directions.

>

> I have found that in life and death situations, one must take

> matters into one's own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think

> outside of the box. Do not be diswayed by their closed mindedness.

> As stated before, many cannot wait for them to get with the program.

> Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you will know

> what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

> can survive it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You may want to follow Ed's advice and spend $30 or so on a rebounder.

That is one of the simplest ways to move the lymph throughout the

body. Any exercise will help to move it, so go jogging, do situps or

jumping jacks--whatever you prefer.

Above all, know that you body can fight this and give it the tools to

do so! Detox is the most important part of this, IMO- starting with

colon cleansing. If your colon isn't emptying out the toxins, then

you will only get sick as they build up. Do yourself a favor and

read Louise Hay to help you with thinking positive. And please stop

reading the allopathic sites who's only purpose is to instill fear in

you so you will buy their poison. Fear is your worst enemy: if you

keep thinking about bad outcomes, you will invariably attract them to

you. Much better is to release the fear and take charge of your own

health with the knowledge that you CAN and WILL defeat this!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Nonyo Biznazz <nonyobiznazz@...>

wrote:

> Thanks Noreen. For some reason my gut keeps saying not to take the

> meds. Sometimes I feel scared to take them and sometimes I feel

> scared not to take them. At times it seems no one really makes

> sense. I've heard the good and bad on both sides. There are cases

> where people have taken the meds and feel they have gotten their

> life back. The people I've seen on meds all seem to be healthy but

> they kinda " look deformed. " Something just tells me that's not hiv,

> but the meds doing that. I dunno. I've been poz for 4 years and I

> don't look like that. However, I do have visible swollen glands

> which for me is very embarassing altho no one has ever said anything

> about it. If I could get the glands to shrink, I wouldn't feel so

> paranoid. I'm going to see a doctor about it next week. I just

> hope it isn't lymphoma.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Noreen <noreenelaine@...>

> cures for AIDS

> Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 9:15:51 AM

> Subject: Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

>

>

> If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web

> that lists who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in

> giving hydrogen peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in

> town. I want to stress that these treatments may not be a cure-for-

> all, but they certainly are a step in the right directions.

>

> I have found that in life and death situations, one must take

> matters into one's own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think

> outside of the box. Do not be diswayed by their closed mindedness.

> As stated before, many cannot wait for them to get with the program.

> Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you will know

> what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

> can survive it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Swollen glands go away very quickly and painlessly with nothing more than

gentle bouncing on a rebounder. I would recommend about 40 minutes a day. You

should notice improvement almost immediately.

Re: The AIDS/Avert.org Website

If you type in IBOM Foundation, you will find many sites on the web that lists

who to contact in regards to doctors that are trained in giving hydrogen

peroxide treatments. I was lucky, one lived here in town. I want to stress that

these treatments may not be a cure-for-all, but they certainly are a step in the

right directions.

I have found that in life and death situations, one must take matters into one's

own hands, as mainstream medicine will not think outside of the box. Do not be

diswayed by their closed mindedness. As stated before, many cannot wait for them

to get with the program. Do your homework and listen to your gut feling and you

will know what to do. Best to anyone who may be going through tough times, you

can survive it!