Re: Couple of interesting things...

[Guest guest]

Interesting. Is there any mention of cocktail use or viral load for

the HIV positive individuals? Not that it necessarily makes a

difference, but of course allopathic medicine would have us believe

someone that is undetectable has very little chance of spreading the

virus, while supposedly people with a higher viral load would be more

likely to spread it. If the study participants weren't on a cocktail

then this study would certainly support the opinion that HIV is not

spread by a virus, or perhaps that it is not spread at all.

If they were on a cocktail, such as one including truvada, this may

only prove that the cocktail prevents the patient from transmitting

the virus to others.

On 11/2/09, Mc <robmcd1973@...> wrote:

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

Interesting. Is there any mention of cocktail use or viral load for

the HIV positive individuals? Not that it necessarily makes a

difference, but of course allopathic medicine would have us believe

someone that is undetectable has very little chance of spreading the

virus, while supposedly people with a higher viral load would be more

likely to spread it. If the study participants weren't on a cocktail

then this study would certainly support the opinion that HIV is not

spread by a virus, or perhaps that it is not spread at all.

If they were on a cocktail, such as one including truvada, this may

only prove that the cocktail prevents the patient from transmitting

the virus to others.

On 11/2/09, Mc <robmcd1973@...> wrote:

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

The youtube link did not work...here it is again and this time it works.

 

Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views on

the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

 

 

[Guest guest]

The youtube link did not work...here it is again and this time it works.

 

Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views on

the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

 

 

[Guest guest]

That's a good question.  I don't know about that.

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

That's a good question.  I don't know about that.

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

damn man thats  good  stuff i'm thinking about the good we can do on this site

with that video that woke me up eating and drinking good things will help clear

you of this what ever it is thanks man i'm going to send it out by the hundreds

________________________________

From: Mc <robmcd1973@...>

cures for AIDS@...

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 2:26:09 PM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

 

The youtube link did not work...here it is again and this time it works.

 

Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views on

the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

 

[Guest guest]

damn man thats  good  stuff i'm thinking about the good we can do on this site

with that video that woke me up eating and drinking good things will help clear

you of this what ever it is thanks man i'm going to send it out by the hundreds

________________________________

From: Mc <robmcd1973@...>

cures for AIDS@...

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 2:26:09 PM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

 

The youtube link did not work...here it is again and this time it works.

 

Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views on

the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

 

[Guest guest]

how much money could we say that these crooks how made off  pushing drugs for a

so called hiv/aids ?anyone can answer!!!

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From: Mc <robmcd1973@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 2:27:03 PM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

 

That's a good question.  I don't know about that.

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

how much money could we say that these crooks how made off  pushing drugs for a

so called hiv/aids ?anyone can answer!!!

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From: Mc <robmcd1973@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 2:27:03 PM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

 

That's a good question.  I don't know about that.

> HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases –

> Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> HIV-negative. These individuals had sex – vaginal and anal – with and

> without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> transmission.

> The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> partners?

> The answer is – Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

>

> The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

>

> Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor Luc

> Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

>

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tKyIBYKoT20

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[Guest guest]

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

I used to go regularly to an HIV specialist.  It's sort of a boutique doctor's

office that caters to gay patients.  I think most of the patients there are

gay.  Anyway, I refused to let him put any of his services on my insurance.  I

always paid cash.  If Blue Cross or any other insurance agency flagged me as

" positive, " my employer would be charged such an outrageous amount of money,

despite the fact that I don't use the meds and have never incurred any costs

that were more than any other " healthy " individual. 

 

Here's my issue with the mainstream HIV approach:  it's unsustainable! 

 

I have a very dear friend who is the perfect example of the mess this system

creates.  He is a drug addict.  In my opinion, that's the real reason he is in

the situation he is in.  He lives in Los Angels and goes to the Gay and Lesbian

Center for all his medical issues.  He takes about 30-40 pills every day, gets

blood work done, sees a doctor on a regular basis.  He takes Bactrim every

single day of his life!  SCARY!  Unable to hold a job because of his drug

problem, now he has resorted to disability and the state of California pays him

$40k/year to do nothing.  He is a dear friend, but I tell him all the time that

it's fucked up.  He takes thousands of dollars worth of pharmaceuticals every

year and smokes thousands of dollars worth of meth and lives in a beautiful

apartment for free.  How long can he live like this?  I don't know; but the

human body is terribly resilient and he will probably live for quite a number of

years.  So, after he

has sucked millions (maybe?) from the system, then he dies.  That is totally

fucked up and our government and our AIDS programs help many people do that

every single day.

 

My doctor said you don't have to worry about who pays for your meds.  NOTHING IS

FREE.  Corporations are failing every single day.  The government thinks it can

save the day with the tax payers money and all we're gonna do is lose the dollar

(that's the point anyway-world currency).  And the best part is that when I pay

for services out of my own pocket, my fucking gay doctor in his Prada pants

tells me that I'm crazy for not taking the pills and letting someone else pay

for them.  It really is insane.  And I'm also over the bloodwork.  $3000 to test

my blood!  Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Sorry, just felt like venting....cheers.  LOL!

 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

I used to go regularly to an HIV specialist.  It's sort of a boutique doctor's

office that caters to gay patients.  I think most of the patients there are

gay.  Anyway, I refused to let him put any of his services on my insurance.  I

always paid cash.  If Blue Cross or any other insurance agency flagged me as

" positive, " my employer would be charged such an outrageous amount of money,

despite the fact that I don't use the meds and have never incurred any costs

that were more than any other " healthy " individual. 

 

Here's my issue with the mainstream HIV approach:  it's unsustainable! 

 

I have a very dear friend who is the perfect example of the mess this system

creates.  He is a drug addict.  In my opinion, that's the real reason he is in

the situation he is in.  He lives in Los Angels and goes to the Gay and Lesbian

Center for all his medical issues.  He takes about 30-40 pills every day, gets

blood work done, sees a doctor on a regular basis.  He takes Bactrim every

single day of his life!  SCARY!  Unable to hold a job because of his drug

problem, now he has resorted to disability and the state of California pays him

$40k/year to do nothing.  He is a dear friend, but I tell him all the time that

it's fucked up.  He takes thousands of dollars worth of pharmaceuticals every

year and smokes thousands of dollars worth of meth and lives in a beautiful

apartment for free.  How long can he live like this?  I don't know; but the

human body is terribly resilient and he will probably live for quite a number of

years.  So, after he

has sucked millions (maybe?) from the system, then he dies.  That is totally

fucked up and our government and our AIDS programs help many people do that

every single day.

 

My doctor said you don't have to worry about who pays for your meds.  NOTHING IS

FREE.  Corporations are failing every single day.  The government thinks it can

save the day with the tax payers money and all we're gonna do is lose the dollar

(that's the point anyway-world currency).  And the best part is that when I pay

for services out of my own pocket, my fucking gay doctor in his Prada pants

tells me that I'm crazy for not taking the pills and letting someone else pay

for them.  It really is insane.  And I'm also over the bloodwork.  $3000 to test

my blood!  Get out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Sorry, just felt like venting....cheers.  LOL!

 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

And don't forget the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and the rest of the

Bilderberg families.

Ever notice that Doctors are some of the least healthy people around?

It speaks loudly for their training or lack thereof that they have

such bad habits and low regard for good nutrition and cleansing

practices. Of course this is generalizing, but it seems that most are

a true specimen of the kind of health they practice. It seems that

they are the most brainwashed of all.

On 11/3/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

> billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

> you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

> the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

> one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

> the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes

> to

> big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

> probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they

> own,

> and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And don't forget the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and the rest of the

Bilderberg families.

Ever notice that Doctors are some of the least healthy people around?

It speaks loudly for their training or lack thereof that they have

such bad habits and low regard for good nutrition and cleansing

practices. Of course this is generalizing, but it seems that most are

a true specimen of the kind of health they practice. It seems that

they are the most brainwashed of all.

On 11/3/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

> billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

> you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

> the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

> one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

> the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes

> to

> big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

> probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they

> own,

> and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vent away! I think wed get along great as I think wed share allot of the same

views. Thus healthcare debate has me worried on two fronts. If it passes u see

the aids community being 1st on the chopping block. We are expensive and the

government has no money. And at that point we aren't needed as a voting block

because they'll have control of everything and we will just have to take what

they give us. But more important to me than what happens to the aids community

is what happens to my children my parents and all other americans. We all loose

and become enslaved to an out of control government. As little faith as I have

in big pharm I have even less in big gov!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Vent away! I think wed get along great as I think wed share allot of the same

views. Thus healthcare debate has me worried on two fronts. If it passes u see

the aids community being 1st on the chopping block. We are expensive and the

government has no money. And at that point we aren't needed as a voting block

because they'll have control of everything and we will just have to take what

they give us. But more important to me than what happens to the aids community

is what happens to my children my parents and all other americans. We all loose

and become enslaved to an out of control government. As little faith as I have

in big pharm I have even less in big gov!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Vent away mi amigo!  You make from great and valid points.  I have been told

many times to get back on my meds.  I read an article recently how they were

taking people to jail for not taking their meds.  They're being acused of

wanting nothing more to spread the virus on to others since they're not on

official " Medication "   what has the world come to!  Just the other day i ran

into a friend of mine and like you he's getting everything paid for, for

free!  Here I am busting my ass working everyday and paying back my student

loans and others are getting their rent payed for free!!!  The AIDS foundation

here in Texas provides you with free doctor care, free medication and now free

living!  When I lost my job a couple of months ago I did what ever other normal

person would do, I LOOKED FOR ANOTHER JOB!  Yet others don't feel the need to

work since the AIDS foundation is feeding them 3 meals a day and paying their

rent!    It just angers

me as well those who take advantage of us (pharma companies) and those who have

HIV/AIDS and take advantage of the system. 

 

From: aidsisoveraol (DOT) com <aidsisoveraol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Vent away mi amigo!  You make from great and valid points.  I have been told

many times to get back on my meds.  I read an article recently how they were

taking people to jail for not taking their meds.  They're being acused of

wanting nothing more to spread the virus on to others since they're not on

official " Medication "   what has the world come to!  Just the other day i ran

into a friend of mine and like you he's getting everything paid for, for

free!  Here I am busting my ass working everyday and paying back my student

loans and others are getting their rent payed for free!!!  The AIDS foundation

here in Texas provides you with free doctor care, free medication and now free

living!  When I lost my job a couple of months ago I did what ever other normal

person would do, I LOOKED FOR ANOTHER JOB!  Yet others don't feel the need to

work since the AIDS foundation is feeding them 3 meals a day and paying their

rent!    It just angers

me as well those who take advantage of us (pharma companies) and those who have

HIV/AIDS and take advantage of the system. 

 

From: aidsisoveraol (DOT) com <aidsisoveraol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

cures for AIDS@grou ps.com

Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:29 AM

 

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

I've also noticed that a lot of doctors are on Prozac and similar drugs. How

else can they be so cavalier about killing and maiming people? The Rothchilds

and Bilderbergs aseren't making laws, trying to mandate medical procedures and

shield the manufacturers from liability. I secretly recorded the head of

infectious disease, Dr. Leaf, at the VA. I should put it on Youtube. He said

it would be unethical for him to help me get off of the horrible medications

that I was forced on and addicted to.

Ed

h

Re: Couple of interesting things...

And don't forget the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and the rest of the

Bilderberg families.

Ever notice that Doctors are some of the least healthy people around?

It speaks loudly for their training or lack thereof that they have

such bad habits and low regard for good nutrition and cleansing

practices. Of course this is generalizing, but it seems that most are

a true specimen of the kind of health they practice. It seems that

they are the most brainwashed of all.

On 11/3/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

> billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

> you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

> the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

> one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

> the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes

> to

> big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

> probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they

> own,

> and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've also noticed that a lot of doctors are on Prozac and similar drugs. How

else can they be so cavalier about killing and maiming people? The Rothchilds

and Bilderbergs aseren't making laws, trying to mandate medical procedures and

shield the manufacturers from liability. I secretly recorded the head of

infectious disease, Dr. Leaf, at the VA. I should put it on Youtube. He said

it would be unethical for him to help me get off of the horrible medications

that I was forced on and addicted to.

Ed

h

Re: Couple of interesting things...

And don't forget the Rockefellers, Rothchilds, and the rest of the

Bilderberg families.

Ever notice that Doctors are some of the least healthy people around?

It speaks loudly for their training or lack thereof that they have

such bad habits and low regard for good nutrition and cleansing

practices. Of course this is generalizing, but it seems that most are

a true specimen of the kind of health they practice. It seems that

they are the most brainwashed of all.

On 11/3/09, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

> Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

> billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

> you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

> the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000,000 (that's

> one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

> the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes

> to

> big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

> probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they

> own,

> and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

>

> Ed

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

A former AIDS patient Atheatos Kosmos has discovered that the HIV virus cannot

be detected. (YOUTUBE has her whole interview) The medicines that were given to

her made her get sick she stop taken them and no longer has AIDS. NOW Other

researchers have come to the same conclusion that HIV is a hoaz. The HIV virus

has

never been found anywhere. On the insert inside the test kit which is

never been showed to the patient because the government forbids, says “there

is

no recognized standard for establishing the presence or absence of HIV1 Or HIV2

antibody in human blood.†IT IS WRITTEN BY THE MAKERS OF ABBOTT

LABORATORIES IF you ask the doctors to

show it they say it is prohibited by the government THE BOOK “FEAR OF THE

INVISIBLE†was

published by JANINE ROBERTS goes into detail about how HIV IS a HOAX The

causative agent of AIDS has not yet been identified no proofs of isolation of

the HIV virus in another sense The science

community has no proof that it exist. What is taken place is a diabolical

conspiracy. The AZT drug that was

too dangerous for cancer patients was given to AIDS patients making them more

sick and eventually causing many of them to die IT also causes liver failure

which in my opion turns “HIV†into AIDs on

occasions. Liver failure may also cause

some to die an untimely death. One

doctor said that on occasions that the AZT caused AIDS THE doctors should show

the “HIV†patient

the insert that is inside the test kit. THE INSERT TELLS THEM BASICALLY THAT

HIV DOES NOT EXIST. But the government will not allow the doctors

to disclose the information on the insert that is in the test kit. The intent

to keep the patient in darkness or

deception.

Thereby the BIBLE IS CORRECT in

saying that the Devil has no real power. THE DEVIL is the BEST illusionist on

the planet and he has deceived many

into thinking that they are HIV positive. THE BIBLE says in the

LAST DAYS there would be a great deception. IN this hour of deception many need

to open their eyes to the truth or

be left in utter darkness. However darkness really does not exist it is

only the absence of LIGHT. For scientist

can detect LIGHT but not darkness. IN

the same sense that they cannot detect HIV

________________________________

From: " aidsisover@... " <aidsisover@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 11:29:30 AM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

A former AIDS patient Atheatos Kosmos has discovered that the HIV virus cannot

be detected. (YOUTUBE has her whole interview) The medicines that were given to

her made her get sick she stop taken them and no longer has AIDS. NOW Other

researchers have come to the same conclusion that HIV is a hoaz. The HIV virus

has

never been found anywhere. On the insert inside the test kit which is

never been showed to the patient because the government forbids, says “there

is

no recognized standard for establishing the presence or absence of HIV1 Or HIV2

antibody in human blood.†IT IS WRITTEN BY THE MAKERS OF ABBOTT

LABORATORIES IF you ask the doctors to

show it they say it is prohibited by the government THE BOOK “FEAR OF THE

INVISIBLE†was

published by JANINE ROBERTS goes into detail about how HIV IS a HOAX The

causative agent of AIDS has not yet been identified no proofs of isolation of

the HIV virus in another sense The science

community has no proof that it exist. What is taken place is a diabolical

conspiracy. The AZT drug that was

too dangerous for cancer patients was given to AIDS patients making them more

sick and eventually causing many of them to die IT also causes liver failure

which in my opion turns “HIV†into AIDs on

occasions. Liver failure may also cause

some to die an untimely death. One

doctor said that on occasions that the AZT caused AIDS THE doctors should show

the “HIV†patient

the insert that is inside the test kit. THE INSERT TELLS THEM BASICALLY THAT

HIV DOES NOT EXIST. But the government will not allow the doctors

to disclose the information on the insert that is in the test kit. The intent

to keep the patient in darkness or

deception.

Thereby the BIBLE IS CORRECT in

saying that the Devil has no real power. THE DEVIL is the BEST illusionist on

the planet and he has deceived many

into thinking that they are HIV positive. THE BIBLE says in the

LAST DAYS there would be a great deception. IN this hour of deception many need

to open their eyes to the truth or

be left in utter darkness. However darkness really does not exist it is

only the absence of LIGHT. For scientist

can detect LIGHT but not darkness. IN

the same sense that they cannot detect HIV

________________________________

From: " aidsisover@... " <aidsisover@...>

cures for AIDS

Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 11:29:30 AM

Subject: Re: Couple of interesting things...

Last year alone one company, Gilead, made $500 million (that's a mere half

billion dollars) on one drug alone -- Atripla. Since the drug is addictive

you can bet they'll make even more on it this year. Since the start of

the AIDS debacle our government has poured over $1,000,000,000, 000 (that's

one trillion -- an almost unfathomable number) into this fraud. Where does

the money go? I don't have a breakdown, but rest assured most of it goes to

big pharma -- companies owned by the Bushes, Rumfelds, Clintons and

probably the Obamas too. Anybody know how much pharmaceutical stock they own,

and which companies? I think the public has a right to know.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Ripples on a pond. They get drug revenues, before that r & d

money, then they can jack up insurance premiums, they stress

people into mental healthcare, they make people sick with

hematoxins and break down their immune systems so they

spend a lot of time(money) in hospitals. There is money

made by HIV pimping in policy and politics. Consider how

many condoms they sell that way, and somebody makes money

on all the condom and HIV-related advertising.

They're not just after money. They do sincerely care about

people. They sincerely killed gay men, needle-using addicts,

and prostitutes, and still do to some extent. They care and

they make money caring.

-Bob

> > HIV is More Difficult to Transmit than Most Sexually Transmitted Diseases

†"

> > Dr. Padian, from her 10-Year Study 
As part of her 10-year study on

> > HIV transmission, she enrolled 175 couples, one partner HIV-positive, one

> > HIV-negative. These individuals had sex †" vaginal and anal †" with and

> > without condoms over the study period. They were continuously tested. Drug

> > abusers were kept out of the study, to emphasize the role of sex in

> > transmission.

> > The results: At the end of the study, how many people who tested negative

> > became positive, after repeated sexual intercourse with their HIV-positive

> > partners?

> > The answer is †" Zero. Zero people who tested negative became positive.

> > Yet we are seeing campaigns for " safe sex " . Don't forget your condom, when

> > practically there isn't any sexual transmission.

> >

> > The video below is from " House of Numbers. "

> >

> > Video: Nobel Laureate Montagnier: HIV Can Be Cleared Naturally
Professor

Luc

> > Montagnier, 2009 Nobel Laureate for the discovery of HIV, reveals his views

> > on the treatment of HIV and its relationship to nutrition and profit...

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