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> Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

healthier.

Hi Ed,.........since you havent been doing labs or even know of your cd-4 count

average or fluctuation history so you can compare this to your over-all

health-history...I guess you can verify this personally eh. Many of us whose

t-cells fell very low, these counts correlated with the diseased condition

appropriately.

Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced that the hiv

virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex campaigns

valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things after I've

known and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a harmful

germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able. Am I being

irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal decision then,

as it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system based on

his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your responses.

It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I know thru

personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex with a poz person

for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral sex to the poz

person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem consistent.

So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is higher risk

for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides). this being the

primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your opinon. Thanks!

paulie

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> Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

healthier.

Hi Ed,.........since you havent been doing labs or even know of your cd-4 count

average or fluctuation history so you can compare this to your over-all

health-history...I guess you can verify this personally eh. Many of us whose

t-cells fell very low, these counts correlated with the diseased condition

appropriately.

Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced that the hiv

virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex campaigns

valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things after I've

known and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a harmful

germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able. Am I being

irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal decision then,

as it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system based on

his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your responses.

It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I know thru

personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex with a poz person

for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral sex to the poz

person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem consistent.

So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is higher risk

for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides). this being the

primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your opinon. Thanks!

paulie

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Are you serious? Are you delusional? What drugs are you taking? (That

might explain your " logic. " ) One of the side effects of the combos is fuzzy

thinking.

Check out Guyton's Physiology or Grey's Anatomy (the book, not the TV show)

and learn what a t-cell is and what it does and what is considered the normal

range. You don't have to shed any blood to do that. Ask your doctor(s)

what their t-cell counts are. Bet they never counted.

Testing positive on so-called HIV tests does not mean you have the virus.

There is no known valid test for the virus, so there really is no proof of

transmission. There have been several studies of serodiscordant couples who

have " unprotected " sex, yet the negative partner remains negative after 20

years

or more!

Having other people's semen in your rectal tract is one of 70 known factors

to cause a positive test result. This can occur even if everyone who ever

fucked you was hiv-negative.

20 years ago, when the epidemic began, it was a disease of bottoms, not

tops. Well, if the virus was being transmitted and the tops didn't have it,

who

were the bottoms getting it from?

Viruses are pieces of your own genetic debris. You don't have to catch them

from an outside source. As to being irresponsible, I say this: If you are

sick (and if you're seeing an AIDS doctor and taking medications, you are

sick) you should not be having sex -- not even masturbating. You need your

energy for healing -- although that isn't likely to happen if your being

treated

by an AIDS quack. (Any doctor who gives credence to HIV/AIDS is a quack and

the death penalty is too good for them.)

As far as your t-cell count correlating with your health, I'll say this.

After you've been on AIDS chemotherapy for some time, your t-cell count will

fall because the drugs are destroying your bone marrow and your thymus. If

this is why your count is falling, it's not a good thing, for you. However, in

a normal person, not being experimented on by quacks, higher t-cells are more

of a concern than lower. Another reason you might find some correlation to

how you feel is the placebo effect. The doctor's words are powerful to

believers in the Church of Western Medicine. If the doctor says you're doing

well, or not doing well, it is going to affect how you feel. I've watched it

with my mom, who is recovering from multiple heart surgeries that should have

never been performed on someone her age. She can be in tears and thinking she

is dying or doing remarkably well based on what the doctors tell her and how

they say it. A mind is a terrible thing to fuck.

Ed

_Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

(http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

In a message dated 3/22/2007 8:26:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

freelightexpress@... writes:

> Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

healthier.

Hi Ed,.........Hi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing labs or even

know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can compare

this to your overHi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing labs or even

know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can compare this

to your ove

Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced that the

hiv virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex campaigns

valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things after I've

known

and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a harmful

germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able. Am I being

irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal decision then,

as

it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system based on

his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your responses.

It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I know

thru personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex with a poz

person for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral sex to the

poz person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem consistent.

So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is higher

risk for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides). this being

the primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your opinon. Thanks!

paulie

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Are you serious? Are you delusional? What drugs are you taking? (That

might explain your " logic. " ) One of the side effects of the combos is fuzzy

thinking.

Check out Guyton's Physiology or Grey's Anatomy (the book, not the TV show)

and learn what a t-cell is and what it does and what is considered the normal

range. You don't have to shed any blood to do that. Ask your doctor(s)

what their t-cell counts are. Bet they never counted.

Testing positive on so-called HIV tests does not mean you have the virus.

There is no known valid test for the virus, so there really is no proof of

transmission. There have been several studies of serodiscordant couples who

have " unprotected " sex, yet the negative partner remains negative after 20

years

or more!

Having other people's semen in your rectal tract is one of 70 known factors

to cause a positive test result. This can occur even if everyone who ever

fucked you was hiv-negative.

20 years ago, when the epidemic began, it was a disease of bottoms, not

tops. Well, if the virus was being transmitted and the tops didn't have it,

who

were the bottoms getting it from?

Viruses are pieces of your own genetic debris. You don't have to catch them

from an outside source. As to being irresponsible, I say this: If you are

sick (and if you're seeing an AIDS doctor and taking medications, you are

sick) you should not be having sex -- not even masturbating. You need your

energy for healing -- although that isn't likely to happen if your being

treated

by an AIDS quack. (Any doctor who gives credence to HIV/AIDS is a quack and

the death penalty is too good for them.)

As far as your t-cell count correlating with your health, I'll say this.

After you've been on AIDS chemotherapy for some time, your t-cell count will

fall because the drugs are destroying your bone marrow and your thymus. If

this is why your count is falling, it's not a good thing, for you. However, in

a normal person, not being experimented on by quacks, higher t-cells are more

of a concern than lower. Another reason you might find some correlation to

how you feel is the placebo effect. The doctor's words are powerful to

believers in the Church of Western Medicine. If the doctor says you're doing

well, or not doing well, it is going to affect how you feel. I've watched it

with my mom, who is recovering from multiple heart surgeries that should have

never been performed on someone her age. She can be in tears and thinking she

is dying or doing remarkably well based on what the doctors tell her and how

they say it. A mind is a terrible thing to fuck.

Ed

_Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

(http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

In a message dated 3/22/2007 8:26:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

freelightexpress@... writes:

> Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

healthier.

Hi Ed,.........Hi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing labs or even

know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can compare

this to your overHi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing labs or even

know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can compare this

to your ove

Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced that the

hiv virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex campaigns

valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things after I've

known

and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a harmful

germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able. Am I being

irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal decision then,

as

it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system based on

his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your responses.

It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I know

thru personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex with a poz

person for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral sex to the

poz person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem consistent.

So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is higher

risk for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides). this being

the primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your opinon. Thanks!

paulie

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Ed,

Nice reply...!

May I ask link or reference for the 70 factors that give false HIV

positive.

>

>

> > Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

> T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

> healthier.

>

> Hi Ed,.........Hi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing

labs or even

> know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can

compare

> this to your overHi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing

labs or even

> know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can

compare this

> to your ove

>

> Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced

that the

> hiv virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex

campaigns

> valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

> appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things

after I've known

> and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a

harmful

> germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able.

Am I being

> irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal

decision then, as

> it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system

based on

> his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your

responses.

>

> It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I

know

> thru personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex

with a poz

> person for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral

sex to the

> poz person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem

consistent.

>

> So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is

higher

> risk for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides).

this being

> the primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your

opinon. Thanks!

>

>

> paulie

>

>

>

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

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everyone.

> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Ed,

Nice reply...!

May I ask link or reference for the 70 factors that give false HIV

positive.

>

>

> > Don't you get it yet? The counts are not valid markers for health.

> T- cells normally go up when you're sick and come down when you're

> healthier.

>

> Hi Ed,.........Hi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing

labs or even

> know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can

compare

> this to your overHi Ed,.........<WBR>since you havent been doing

labs or even

> know of your cd-4 count average or fluctuation history so you can

compare this

> to your ove

>

> Also, I've been meaning to ask you. Since you seem to be convinced

that the

> hiv virus is harmless if it exists at all,....are all the safe-sex

campaigns

> valueless as far as hiv-transmission is concerned? (yes or no would be

> appreciated with your reasons). I know I have done unsafe things

after I've known

> and often dont even consider myself hiv + or able to give anyone a

harmful

> germ, nothing more harmful than any other average person is able.

Am I being

> irresponsible? With that, It appears barebacking is a personal

decision then, as

> it all comes down with ones own personal comfort and belief system

based on

> his current state of knowledge and acceptance. Thanks for your

responses.

>

> It does appear true that getting hiv via oral sex is uncommon, as I

know

> thru personal experience of someone who has been having oral sex

with a poz

> person for over 5 years and very often, and the one giving the oral

sex to the

> poz person is still negative. hmmm. Go figure. The stats seem

consistent.

>

> So do you think its true for the most part that hiv-transmission is

higher

> risk for barebacking? (hiv being the cause or not of aids asides).

this being

> the primary transmission among gay men? - just wondered your

opinon. Thanks!

>

>

> paulie

>

>

>

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National

Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

>

> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to

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> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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_HIV & AIDS - Factors Known to Cause False Positive HIV Antibody Test

Results_ (http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cjtestfp.htm)

In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:56:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mahideree@... writes:

Nice reply...!

May I ask link or reference for the 70 factors that give false HIV

positive.

NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

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_HIV & AIDS - Factors Known to Cause False Positive HIV Antibody Test

Results_ (http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cjtestfp.htm)

In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:56:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mahideree@... writes:

Nice reply...!

May I ask link or reference for the 70 factors that give false HIV

positive.

NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

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