Re: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

[Guest guest]

Any cases of people coming HIV- after being diagnosed positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.com/79705411_ (http://www.myspace.com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@... <howardrobins%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype@... <_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype@... <happytype%40>) > wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@... <petenewman2004%40.co.nz>) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear 0nenutty,

Please check out www.ozoneuniversity.com for a REAL answer to Aids. Even

patients close to death can often be healed, become healthy and go back to

work(if they want to). There are no guarantees, but www.pubmed.gov (our National

Library of medicine website) has scientific articles from around the world to

show how effective Direct IV ozone therapy can be against Aids (type in

" intravenous ozone therapy " in search for abstracts from around the world by

M.D.'s and P.H.D.'s scientific studies). Also go to www.garynull.com for more

valuable alternative info.

Best of luck,

Dr Robins

onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote:

Wow, as I have newly been diagnosed HIV+ reading these posts have been

somewhat discouraging. In June of 2006, I tested HIV- and then in

Nov. 2006 I retested and this time it came back HIV+. Overwhelmed by

the sudden change, I started looking for alternatives and that's when

I came across the Beck information on the internet. Really I thought

it sounded too good to be true, but then again I thought well maybe

it's possible that electricity could be powerful enough to knock

anything out. So a month after I received the diagnosis, I ordered

the Beck devices and have been using them consistently for 2 weeks now

and I even bought a Terminator II zapper which I wear when I'm not

using the Beck devices. I have not read any testimonials of people

that have been cured using Beck's protocol. Beck said he had a stack

of testimonials where people were cured -- EACH AND EVERY ONE of them

he says. Would he just lie and make that up? I'm trying to have

faith in what that man said and I'm trying to go strictly by what he

said, but where are the other people just like me that tried to cure

themselves like Bob said and then succeeded? Then reading the post

that had used Beck's protocol for over 3 years and still wasn't

cured I must admit is VERY discouraging. It makes me think, " how did

Bob get off by telling desperate people that there was a cure for

HIV/AIDS if there really wasn't? " I hope Mr. Beck was telling the

truth and I hope someone can be cured by using his methods. I am

still going to give it a 100% try so at least I can say, " I did what

Bob Beck said to do and here are the results. "

-- In cures for AIDS , Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <petenewman2004@...> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

> >

> > ps. I like the Glycomannan product for

> > glyconutrients..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

> > ,

> > you forgot to mention that you were able to raise

> > your

> > CD4 level with the help of glyconutrients so you

> > were

> > still concerned about a possible virus and with good

> > reasons.

> > I am also against meds but don't rule them out

> > completely in last resort.

> > I just started on Glycolync, hopefully it will help

> > raise my CD4s.

> > I also recently received some Indian medicine but

> > stopped taking it after 2 weeks because of suspect

> > side effects that make me believe that the ayurvedic

> > could be mixed with anti-retroviral drugs.

> > I am waiting for a reply from the supplier. If

> > anyone

> > tried these herbs http://www.aidscureherbal.com/ ,

> > please share your experience and or results.

> > Thanks

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- peter newman <petenewman2004@...> wrote:

> >

> > > I did ozone, Beck, and various other protocols,

> > for

> > > 3 years CD4 counts were always in the 350/400

> > range.

> > > About a year ago I decided after extensive

> > > reading, and seeing the condition of some of my

> > > friends who were on meds, as opposed to those not

> > on

> > > meds, that it was time to forget about my body

> > > being ravaged by a virus, and instead focus on

> > > positive things, my last cd4 count was 950.

> > > Cheers

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > orinnoco_nobilis <officinalis@...> wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > As far as I am concerned, whether HIV is a hoax or

> > > not, it is not a

> > > concern for me. If my CD4 is dropping & am

> > starting

> > > to exhibit all the

> > > classical symptoms of AIDS, telling myself that

> > AIDS

> > > is a myth is not

> > > going to help me at all!

> > >

> > > Perhaps you might be one of the more " unique "

> > person

> > > on earth who can

> > > " cure " yourself of HIV tru " enlightenment " . But

> > when

> > > I am experiencing

> > > the signs of failing health, I am really not keen

> > in

> > > being politically

> > > correct or whatsoever.

> > >

> > > Among the various modalities I have tried, I must

> > > say that ozone

> > > therapy has helped me the most. This has been

> > > verified by my skeptical

> > > medical doctor, who encouraged me to continue what

> > I

> > > am doing. When

> > > anyone says that ozone is a poison, that person is

> > > definitely not

> > > doing enough research.

> > >

> > > My purpose of sharing is to enable others in the

> > > same predicament as

> > > me to have a wider choice & selection. Whether it

> > > works for others or

> > > not, it is up to the individuals to make their own

> > > informed decision.

> > > But I feel it is not right for anyone to denounce

> > > other possible

> > > alternative treatments for HIV & to withold that

> > > vital information.

> > >

> > > Last but not least, believe it or not, I have been

> > > following my

> > > condition for the past year & have seen results

> > > which can be verified

> > > by the medical tests I have taken in hospitals.

> > >

> > > Whether AIDS is a hoax or not, it does not matter

> > to

> > > the millions who

> > > are dying around the world. To them & me, AIDS is

> > a

> > > real threat.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Orinnoco,

> > > >

> > > > I found your posting very interesting, and,

> > while

> > > I don't agree with

> > > > anything you are doing, I am glad you at least

> > had

> > > the luck to reject

> > > > your doctor's advice -- which has more to do

> > with

> > > your retaining your

> > > > health than any of the crazy things you are

> > doing

> > > in the name

> > > > of " treating HIV. "

> > > >

> > > > An increase in CD4 cells is not a sign of

> > improved

> > > health, but rather

> > > > a body-initiated response to an increase in

> > toxins

> > > in the blood.

> > > > Anyone who has taken a course in human

> > physiology

> > > (i.e., everyone in

> > > > the medical " profession, " ) should know this.

> > This

> > > fact was further

> > > > affirmed in major orthodox AIDS research from

> > the

> > > early 90's which

> > > > coearly concluded that t-cells were " not a valid

> > > surrogate marker for

> > > > health or disease progression in AIDS. "

> > > >

> > > > As to " viral load, " the major findings announced

> > > at the recent

> > > > orthodox AIDS conference in Canada was that,

> > after

> > > a decade of

> > > > studies, it appeared that viral load was only an

> > > accurate indicator

> > > > in 5% of the cases! Of course anyone who has

> > > examined the AIDS hoax

> > > > with scientific scrutiny (i.e., AIDS Dissidents)

> > > has known this all

> > > > along. We saw " HIV-negative " people with viral

> > > loads. We also turned

> > > > to the world's foremost authority, the scientist

> > > who won the Nobel

> > > > Prize in Chemistry for the technology being

> > called

> > > the viral load

> > > > test, Dr. Kary Mullis, who called it a " viral

> > load

> > > of crap. "

> > > >

> > > > If you tested " positive " on a test for

> > antibodies,

> > > it means you are

> > > > immune to whatever-it-is the medical quacks are

> > > calling " HIV. " It

> > > > doesn't mean you have a frightening infection.

> > The

> > > only thing

> > > > infected is your mind -- with misinformation. As

> > > long as you

> > > > continue under these misconceptions, you are

> > > right, you don't dare

> > > > dream of being 100% cured. The only cure for

> > lies

> > > is the truth.

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> Musically yours,

> Sylvain Gagnon

> www.sylvaingagnon.net

> info@...

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear 0nenutty,

Please check out www.ozoneuniversity.com for a REAL answer to Aids. Even

patients close to death can often be healed, become healthy and go back to

work(if they want to). There are no guarantees, but www.pubmed.gov (our National

Library of medicine website) has scientific articles from around the world to

show how effective Direct IV ozone therapy can be against Aids (type in

" intravenous ozone therapy " in search for abstracts from around the world by

M.D.'s and P.H.D.'s scientific studies). Also go to www.garynull.com for more

valuable alternative info.

Best of luck,

Dr Robins

onenuttyguyhere <onenuttyguyhere@...> wrote:

Wow, as I have newly been diagnosed HIV+ reading these posts have been

somewhat discouraging. In June of 2006, I tested HIV- and then in

Nov. 2006 I retested and this time it came back HIV+. Overwhelmed by

the sudden change, I started looking for alternatives and that's when

I came across the Beck information on the internet. Really I thought

it sounded too good to be true, but then again I thought well maybe

it's possible that electricity could be powerful enough to knock

anything out. So a month after I received the diagnosis, I ordered

the Beck devices and have been using them consistently for 2 weeks now

and I even bought a Terminator II zapper which I wear when I'm not

using the Beck devices. I have not read any testimonials of people

that have been cured using Beck's protocol. Beck said he had a stack

of testimonials where people were cured -- EACH AND EVERY ONE of them

he says. Would he just lie and make that up? I'm trying to have

faith in what that man said and I'm trying to go strictly by what he

said, but where are the other people just like me that tried to cure

themselves like Bob said and then succeeded? Then reading the post

that had used Beck's protocol for over 3 years and still wasn't

cured I must admit is VERY discouraging. It makes me think, " how did

Bob get off by telling desperate people that there was a cure for

HIV/AIDS if there really wasn't? " I hope Mr. Beck was telling the

truth and I hope someone can be cured by using his methods. I am

still going to give it a 100% try so at least I can say, " I did what

Bob Beck said to do and here are the results. "

-- In cures for AIDS , Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <petenewman2004@...> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

> >

> > ps. I like the Glycomannan product for

> > glyconutrients..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

> > ,

> > you forgot to mention that you were able to raise

> > your

> > CD4 level with the help of glyconutrients so you

> > were

> > still concerned about a possible virus and with good

> > reasons.

> > I am also against meds but don't rule them out

> > completely in last resort.

> > I just started on Glycolync, hopefully it will help

> > raise my CD4s.

> > I also recently received some Indian medicine but

> > stopped taking it after 2 weeks because of suspect

> > side effects that make me believe that the ayurvedic

> > could be mixed with anti-retroviral drugs.

> > I am waiting for a reply from the supplier. If

> > anyone

> > tried these herbs http://www.aidscureherbal.com/ ,

> > please share your experience and or results.

> > Thanks

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- peter newman <petenewman2004@...> wrote:

> >

> > > I did ozone, Beck, and various other protocols,

> > for

> > > 3 years CD4 counts were always in the 350/400

> > range.

> > > About a year ago I decided after extensive

> > > reading, and seeing the condition of some of my

> > > friends who were on meds, as opposed to those not

> > on

> > > meds, that it was time to forget about my body

> > > being ravaged by a virus, and instead focus on

> > > positive things, my last cd4 count was 950.

> > > Cheers

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > orinnoco_nobilis <officinalis@...> wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > As far as I am concerned, whether HIV is a hoax or

> > > not, it is not a

> > > concern for me. If my CD4 is dropping & am

> > starting

> > > to exhibit all the

> > > classical symptoms of AIDS, telling myself that

> > AIDS

> > > is a myth is not

> > > going to help me at all!

> > >

> > > Perhaps you might be one of the more " unique "

> > person

> > > on earth who can

> > > " cure " yourself of HIV tru " enlightenment " . But

> > when

> > > I am experiencing

> > > the signs of failing health, I am really not keen

> > in

> > > being politically

> > > correct or whatsoever.

> > >

> > > Among the various modalities I have tried, I must

> > > say that ozone

> > > therapy has helped me the most. This has been

> > > verified by my skeptical

> > > medical doctor, who encouraged me to continue what

> > I

> > > am doing. When

> > > anyone says that ozone is a poison, that person is

> > > definitely not

> > > doing enough research.

> > >

> > > My purpose of sharing is to enable others in the

> > > same predicament as

> > > me to have a wider choice & selection. Whether it

> > > works for others or

> > > not, it is up to the individuals to make their own

> > > informed decision.

> > > But I feel it is not right for anyone to denounce

> > > other possible

> > > alternative treatments for HIV & to withold that

> > > vital information.

> > >

> > > Last but not least, believe it or not, I have been

> > > following my

> > > condition for the past year & have seen results

> > > which can be verified

> > > by the medical tests I have taken in hospitals.

> > >

> > > Whether AIDS is a hoax or not, it does not matter

> > to

> > > the millions who

> > > are dying around the world. To them & me, AIDS is

> > a

> > > real threat.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi Orinnoco,

> > > >

> > > > I found your posting very interesting, and,

> > while

> > > I don't agree with

> > > > anything you are doing, I am glad you at least

> > had

> > > the luck to reject

> > > > your doctor's advice -- which has more to do

> > with

> > > your retaining your

> > > > health than any of the crazy things you are

> > doing

> > > in the name

> > > > of " treating HIV. "

> > > >

> > > > An increase in CD4 cells is not a sign of

> > improved

> > > health, but rather

> > > > a body-initiated response to an increase in

> > toxins

> > > in the blood.

> > > > Anyone who has taken a course in human

> > physiology

> > > (i.e., everyone in

> > > > the medical " profession, " ) should know this.

> > This

> > > fact was further

> > > > affirmed in major orthodox AIDS research from

> > the

> > > early 90's which

> > > > coearly concluded that t-cells were " not a valid

> > > surrogate marker for

> > > > health or disease progression in AIDS. "

> > > >

> > > > As to " viral load, " the major findings announced

> > > at the recent

> > > > orthodox AIDS conference in Canada was that,

> > after

> > > a decade of

> > > > studies, it appeared that viral load was only an

> > > accurate indicator

> > > > in 5% of the cases! Of course anyone who has

> > > examined the AIDS hoax

> > > > with scientific scrutiny (i.e., AIDS Dissidents)

> > > has known this all

> > > > along. We saw " HIV-negative " people with viral

> > > loads. We also turned

> > > > to the world's foremost authority, the scientist

> > > who won the Nobel

> > > > Prize in Chemistry for the technology being

> > called

> > > the viral load

> > > > test, Dr. Kary Mullis, who called it a " viral

> > load

> > > of crap. "

> > > >

> > > > If you tested " positive " on a test for

> > antibodies,

> > > it means you are

> > > > immune to whatever-it-is the medical quacks are

> > > calling " HIV. " It

> > > > doesn't mean you have a frightening infection.

> > The

> > > only thing

> > > > infected is your mind -- with misinformation. As

> > > long as you

> > > > continue under these misconceptions, you are

> > > right, you don't dare

> > > > dream of being 100% cured. The only cure for

> > lies

> > > is the truth.

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> Musically yours,

> Sylvain Gagnon

> www.sylvaingagnon.net

> info@...

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt <matthew.a.sanchez@...> wrote: Any cases of people

coming HIV- after being diagnosed positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.com/79705411_ (http://www.myspace.com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@... <howardrobins%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype@... <_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype@... <happytype%40>) > wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@... <petenewman2004%40.co.nz>) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt <matthew.a.sanchez@...> wrote: Any cases of people

coming HIV- after being diagnosed positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.com/79705411_ (http://www.myspace.com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@... <howardrobins%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype@... <_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype@... <happytype%40>) > wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@... <petenewman2004%40.co.nz>) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I think you are a little off-course on the ozone.

I don't know if it cures HIV or if there is even a need to cure it, but it

seems to restore overall health and rejuevenation to the recipient.

I have had many Direct IV treatments, and never had any toxic reaction

whatsoever. Further, I felt better than I had in a long time, and many people

remarked how much younger I looked and how clear my skin was.

But it's true, you just can't jab yourself with a needle unless you know what

you are doing. I went to a doctor who administered the treatments with precision

and care. The only precaution one must take is not to inhale the pzone, just

have it taken internally (direct injection into blood, or rectal infusion, etc.)

I suggest people read the Ed McCabe book " Flood Your Body With Oxygen " for

more info on ozone.

-D

<aidsisover@...> wrote:

I don't know, , " biologically

corrosive ...bleaching...sterilizing " sounds pretty toxic to me.

There are healthier forms of oxygen than this.

Ed

–noun

a form of oxygen, O3, with a peculiar odor suggesting that of weak

chlorine, produced when an electric spark or ultraviolet light is

passed through air or oxygen. It is found in the atmosphere in minute

quantities, esp. after a thunderstorm, is a powerful oxidizing agent,

and is thus biologically corrosive. In the upper atmosphere, it

absorbs ultraviolet rays, thereby preventing them from reaching the

surface of the earth. It is used for bleaching, sterilizing water,

etc.

>

> Well Ed, I was with you until you said ozone was toxic, you should

say ozone

> is toxic if not used in the right manner....

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I think you are a little off-course on the ozone.

I don't know if it cures HIV or if there is even a need to cure it, but it

seems to restore overall health and rejuevenation to the recipient.

I have had many Direct IV treatments, and never had any toxic reaction

whatsoever. Further, I felt better than I had in a long time, and many people

remarked how much younger I looked and how clear my skin was.

But it's true, you just can't jab yourself with a needle unless you know what

you are doing. I went to a doctor who administered the treatments with precision

and care. The only precaution one must take is not to inhale the pzone, just

have it taken internally (direct injection into blood, or rectal infusion, etc.)

I suggest people read the Ed McCabe book " Flood Your Body With Oxygen " for

more info on ozone.

-D

<aidsisover@...> wrote:

I don't know, , " biologically

corrosive ...bleaching...sterilizing " sounds pretty toxic to me.

There are healthier forms of oxygen than this.

Ed

–noun

a form of oxygen, O3, with a peculiar odor suggesting that of weak

chlorine, produced when an electric spark or ultraviolet light is

passed through air or oxygen. It is found in the atmosphere in minute

quantities, esp. after a thunderstorm, is a powerful oxidizing agent,

and is thus biologically corrosive. In the upper atmosphere, it

absorbs ultraviolet rays, thereby preventing them from reaching the

surface of the earth. It is used for bleaching, sterilizing water,

etc.

>

> Well Ed, I was with you until you said ozone was toxic, you should

say ozone

> is toxic if not used in the right manner....

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Again,

Well, some people test negative after testing positive, because the test can

be innaccurate in the first place! Is it not true that a positive result can be

triggered by any over over 30 different maladies, including pregnancy?

So there might be nothing wrong with the immune system, virus or no virus.

-D

<aidsisover@...> wrote:

I've heard of people seroconverting, but don't really give any

credence to the invalid testing designed by medicriminal

Gallo. The test is for antibodies. You should be happy to have

them. Besides, the Catch 22 of HIV testing works this way: If you

test negative after testing positive, it means you are so suppressed,

you no longer make antibodies. Now the virus has you good.

Ed

> >

> >

> >

> > That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all

happen to be

> > very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> > Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> > doctoring

> > killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the

amoxophillan

> > (sp?)

> > was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of

doom who

> > have

> > murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less

than one

> >

> > million.

> >

> >

> > _http://www.myspace.com/79705411_

(http://www.myspace.com/79705411)

> >

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Again,

Well, some people test negative after testing positive, because the test can

be innaccurate in the first place! Is it not true that a positive result can be

triggered by any over over 30 different maladies, including pregnancy?

So there might be nothing wrong with the immune system, virus or no virus.

-D

<aidsisover@...> wrote:

I've heard of people seroconverting, but don't really give any

credence to the invalid testing designed by medicriminal

Gallo. The test is for antibodies. You should be happy to have

them. Besides, the Catch 22 of HIV testing works this way: If you

test negative after testing positive, it means you are so suppressed,

you no longer make antibodies. Now the virus has you good.

Ed

> >

> >

> >

> > That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all

happen to be

> > very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> > Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> > doctoring

> > killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the

amoxophillan

> > (sp?)

> > was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of

doom who

> > have

> > murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less

than one

> >

> > million.

> >

> >

> > _http://www.myspace.com/79705411_

(http://www.myspace.com/79705411)

> >

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

This is a common misconception so I do understand, however you must realize

that in the recent testing and studies we have not only learned how to

properly use ozone created mechanically, which by the way is much cleaner

than atmospheric ozone, but as well have learned when to use its

characteristics for the better. In the past I do agree others have used it

foolishly and now what we are trying to do is use it in a scientific manner.

Most of my work is done in countries that allow its use so it is very easy

to research and not just haphazardly use it as it has been done in the past.

I will post some findings in about a month when we have concluded our

research, well, first stage research on the supposed HIV virus, cancers and

Lyme. This research is being done in a modern, highly equipped facility and

is being overlooked by many experts in their various fields of medicine,

something impossible to do in the Western world as you know. We are also

looking into stem cell research as a possible partner to ozone....stay

tuned....

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

(Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.ozoneuniversity.com>

www.ozonehospital.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.ozonehospital.com>

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.oxygentherapyexperts.com>

www.medicalozone.info

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.medicalozone.info>

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Phone US - +1-760-208-1692

Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

ID - humansafe2001

Group Owner - oxyzone

Secure E-Mail- ozonehospital@...

Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof.

This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also

be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If

you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and

destroy any copies of it.

From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: January-11-07 8:08 AM8:08

cures for AIDS

Subject: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

I don't know, , " biologically

corrosive ...bleaching...sterilizing " sounds pretty toxic to me.

There are healthier forms of oxygen than this.

Ed

–noun

a form of oxygen, O3, with a peculiar odor suggesting that of weak

chlorine, produced when an electric spark or ultraviolet light is

passed through air or oxygen. It is found in the atmosphere in minute

quantities, esp. after a thunderstorm, is a powerful oxidizing agent,

and is thus biologically corrosive. In the upper atmosphere, it

absorbs ultraviolet rays, thereby preventing them from reaching the

surface of the earth. It is used for bleaching, sterilizing water,

etc.

>

> Well Ed, I was with you until you said ozone was toxic, you should

say ozone

> is toxic if not used in the right manner....

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

[Guest guest]

This is a common misconception so I do understand, however you must realize

that in the recent testing and studies we have not only learned how to

properly use ozone created mechanically, which by the way is much cleaner

than atmospheric ozone, but as well have learned when to use its

characteristics for the better. In the past I do agree others have used it

foolishly and now what we are trying to do is use it in a scientific manner.

Most of my work is done in countries that allow its use so it is very easy

to research and not just haphazardly use it as it has been done in the past.

I will post some findings in about a month when we have concluded our

research, well, first stage research on the supposed HIV virus, cancers and

Lyme. This research is being done in a modern, highly equipped facility and

is being overlooked by many experts in their various fields of medicine,

something impossible to do in the Western world as you know. We are also

looking into stem cell research as a possible partner to ozone....stay

tuned....

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

(Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.ozoneuniversity.com>

www.ozonehospital.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.ozonehospital.com>

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.oxygentherapyexperts.com>

www.medicalozone.info

<http://us.f309.mail./ym/www.medicalozone.info>

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Phone US - +1-760-208-1692

Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

ID - humansafe2001

Group Owner - oxyzone

Secure E-Mail- ozonehospital@...

Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof.

This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also

be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If

you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and

destroy any copies of it.

From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: January-11-07 8:08 AM8:08

cures for AIDS

Subject: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

I don't know, , " biologically

corrosive ...bleaching...sterilizing " sounds pretty toxic to me.

There are healthier forms of oxygen than this.

Ed

–noun

a form of oxygen, O3, with a peculiar odor suggesting that of weak

chlorine, produced when an electric spark or ultraviolet light is

passed through air or oxygen. It is found in the atmosphere in minute

quantities, esp. after a thunderstorm, is a powerful oxidizing agent,

and is thus biologically corrosive. In the upper atmosphere, it

absorbs ultraviolet rays, thereby preventing them from reaching the

surface of the earth. It is used for bleaching, sterilizing water,

etc.

>

> Well Ed, I was with you until you said ozone was toxic, you should

say ozone

> is toxic if not used in the right manner....

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

[Guest guest]

What was the treatment?

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt <matthew.a.sanchez@: <mailto:matthew.a.sanchez%40gmail.com>

gmail.com> wrote: Any cases of people coming HIV- after being diagnosed

positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisoveraol (DOT) : <mailto:aidsisover%40aol.com> com

<aidsisoveraol (DOT) : <mailto:aidsisover%40aol.com> com> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.: <http://www.myspace.com/79705411_> com/79705411_

(http://www.myspace.: <http://www.myspace.com/79705411> com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@: <mailto:howardrobins%40verizon.net> verizon.net

<howardrobins%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype (DOT) : <mailto:_happytype%40.hap> hap

<_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype (DOT) : <mailto:happytype%40> com <happytype%40>)

> wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@: <mailto:petenewman2004%40.co.nz> .co.nz

<petenewman2004%40.co.nz>) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What was the treatment?

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt <matthew.a.sanchez@: <mailto:matthew.a.sanchez%40gmail.com>

gmail.com> wrote: Any cases of people coming HIV- after being diagnosed

positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisoveraol (DOT) : <mailto:aidsisover%40aol.com> com

<aidsisoveraol (DOT) : <mailto:aidsisover%40aol.com> com> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.: <http://www.myspace.com/79705411_> com/79705411_

(http://www.myspace.: <http://www.myspace.com/79705411> com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@: <mailto:howardrobins%40verizon.net> verizon.net

<howardrobins%40verizon.net> writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype (DOT) : <mailto:_happytype%40.hap> hap

<_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype (DOT) : <mailto:happytype%40> com <happytype%40>)

> wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@: <mailto:petenewman2004%40.co.nz> .co.nz

<petenewman2004%40.co.nz>) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I performed Direct IV ozone therapy three times a week for many months. The

patients did rectal insufflation at home 6 days a week. Both patients went out

of country for 6 weeks for " polyatomic aforesis " (ozone dialysis therapy) one to

a clinic in Mexico (which has closed) and one to a clinic in India run by

Jovan ( one of the most knowledgeable men in the world about ozone, visit his

website www.ozoneuniversity.com ) wich has unfortunately closed. When they came

back they did several more months of Direct Iv and home ozone therapy and are

still healthy and HIV Negative to this day (4 years now). Not easy, but a great

outcome never-the-less.

matthew.a.sanchez@... wrote: What was the treatment?

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt gmail.com> wrote: Any cases of people coming HIV- after being

diagnosed positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisoveraol (DOT) : com com> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.: com/79705411_ (http://www.myspace.: com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@: verizon.net writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype (DOT) : hap <_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype (DOT) : com ) > wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@: .co.nz

) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I performed Direct IV ozone therapy three times a week for many months. The

patients did rectal insufflation at home 6 days a week. Both patients went out

of country for 6 weeks for " polyatomic aforesis " (ozone dialysis therapy) one to

a clinic in Mexico (which has closed) and one to a clinic in India run by

Jovan ( one of the most knowledgeable men in the world about ozone, visit his

website www.ozoneuniversity.com ) wich has unfortunately closed. When they came

back they did several more months of Direct Iv and home ozone therapy and are

still healthy and HIV Negative to this day (4 years now). Not easy, but a great

outcome never-the-less.

matthew.a.sanchez@... wrote: What was the treatment?

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Re: Alternative Treatment beside medication

Yes I have treated two people who I converted from + to - as have others before

me.

Matt gmail.com> wrote: Any cases of people coming HIV- after being

diagnosed positive?

On 1/11/07, aidsisoveraol (DOT) : com com> wrote:

>

>

>

> That's funny. I and at least 1000 other Rethinkers, who all happen to be

> very intelligent, are quite convinced that HIV-AIDS is a myth.

> Maggiore was intimidated by the system to medicate her child. The

> doctoring

> killed Eliza Jane. It's quite clear that the reaction to the amoxophillan

> (sp?)

> was what killed her -- just one more victim of the doctors of doom who

> have

> murdered millions of Americans in the time that AIDS claimed less than one

>

> million.

>

>

> _http://www.myspace.: com/79705411_ (http://www.myspace.: com/79705411)

>

> In a message dated 1/11/2007 6:41:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> howardrobins@: verizon.net writes:

>

> Direct iv ozone therapy fixes Aids. Check out www.ozoneuniversityDirect iv

>

> ozone the

>

> Sylvain Gagnon <_happytype (DOT) : hap <_happytype%40.hap>_ (mailto:

> happytype (DOT) : com ) > wrote:

> , I think that you are doing the right thing for

> your health but I am not convinced at all that

> HIV-AIDS is a myth, especially after considering

> Maggiore's experience that was recently put

> to light by Mercury.

> Sylvain

> --- peter newman <_petenewman2004@petenewmape_

> (mailto:petenewman2004@: .co.nz

) >

> wrote:

>

> > The point I was making is that Orinnoco feels so

> > long as his cd4 count is declining, then he can't

> > even consider that aid$ is a myth.

> > Hiv/aids is a death sentence all be it a slow one,

> > when first diagnosed, the mental effect cannot be

> > over emphasised.

> > To be convinced its a hoax is the most powerful

> > thing you can do for your health, regardless of cd4

> > numbers.

> > The reason I do rebounding, take a multivitaman,

> > drink herb teas, and take glyconutrients, is because

> > Im interested in health, trying to kill hiv, does

> > not enter my mind.

> > Cheers.

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Perhaps you don't know what causes " AIDS " but I do. Health and

disease are multifactorial. Healthy acts cause health. Unhealthy acts cause

dis-ease, which is really a state or a process, not an entity, and usually the

body's attempt to rebalance itself. The first 10,000 AIDS victims,

approximately up to 1985, were overwhelmingly sex-and-drug addicts who had been

living

in the fast lane for more than a decade. They had long histories of drug

use, including antibiotics and medical drugs that destroyed their immune

systems. They represent about 1% of the total epidemic. The other 99% are

victims

of HIV: Hysteria, Iatrogenics and Voodoo -- which even healers like yourself

continue to perpetuate by avoiding or hiding the truth.

And what do t-cells have to do with any of this? All logic and all studies

ever done confirm that t-cells are not a valid marker for health or disease

progression in AIDS. What are your t-cell numbers doctor?

Why do you believe AIDS is caused by a herpes virus? It is my belief that

viruses don't cause anything, but occur as a result of something already going

on in the body. At one of Null's programs, years ago, we were told

that they are cellular messengers.

Ed

_So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

In a message dated 1/22/2007 1:27:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

howardrobins@... writes:

In truth no one knows for sure what is the real cause of Aids.

Rember that as of 1994 the CDC had 12 recorded cases of " full blown

Aids with no detectable HIV virus in their bodies.

I believe that ozone therapy has been so overwhelmingly

successful as it is destroying ALL viruses and fungus (ie. intestinal

yeast overgrowth) throughout the body in addition to neutralizing

toxins of all kinds.

It is my personal belief that Aids is caused by Herpes VI and

Candida weakening the T-cell system, but I could be completely wrong.

It doesn't matter as long as the therapy works SAFELY. Ozone therapy

helps all Aids patients regardless of what the " real " cause may be,

as it destroys or transforms these toxic substances and organisms

including any one we may have not yet have discovered as the " cause "

of Aids. I did not " make up " this therapy. I just discovered it

exisited 16 years ago and have become an expert in using it.

Afer all, do you really have to know what's causing Aids, or do

you just have to get well safely?

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, Perhaps you don't know what causes " AIDS " but I do. Health and

disease are multifactorial. Healthy acts cause health. Unhealthy acts cause

dis-ease, which is really a state or a process, not an entity, and usually the

body's attempt to rebalance itself. The first 10,000 AIDS victims,

approximately up to 1985, were overwhelmingly sex-and-drug addicts who had been

living

in the fast lane for more than a decade. They had long histories of drug

use, including antibiotics and medical drugs that destroyed their immune

systems. They represent about 1% of the total epidemic. The other 99% are

victims

of HIV: Hysteria, Iatrogenics and Voodoo -- which even healers like yourself

continue to perpetuate by avoiding or hiding the truth.

And what do t-cells have to do with any of this? All logic and all studies

ever done confirm that t-cells are not a valid marker for health or disease

progression in AIDS. What are your t-cell numbers doctor?

Why do you believe AIDS is caused by a herpes virus? It is my belief that

viruses don't cause anything, but occur as a result of something already going

on in the body. At one of Null's programs, years ago, we were told

that they are cellular messengers.

Ed

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In a message dated 1/22/2007 1:27:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

howardrobins@... writes:

In truth no one knows for sure what is the real cause of Aids.

Rember that as of 1994 the CDC had 12 recorded cases of " full blown

Aids with no detectable HIV virus in their bodies.

I believe that ozone therapy has been so overwhelmingly

successful as it is destroying ALL viruses and fungus (ie. intestinal

yeast overgrowth) throughout the body in addition to neutralizing

toxins of all kinds.

It is my personal belief that Aids is caused by Herpes VI and

Candida weakening the T-cell system, but I could be completely wrong.

It doesn't matter as long as the therapy works SAFELY. Ozone therapy

helps all Aids patients regardless of what the " real " cause may be,

as it destroys or transforms these toxic substances and organisms

including any one we may have not yet have discovered as the " cause "

of Aids. I did not " make up " this therapy. I just discovered it

exisited 16 years ago and have become an expert in using it.

Afer all, do you really have to know what's causing Aids, or do

you just have to get well safely?

NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency

may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do

this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse

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