Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 interesting opinion here...as I read in the article from aids .org oral sex seems the safe way to perform and as you say the acid will kill the virus.As what I had known HIV virus needs T cell from white blood cell in order to replicate itself into many forms .During the passage from mouth to to the food processing organs until to the disposing organs ,there are no blood trace inside.So the HIV virus just hitch a way ride from the mouth until to the waste. Thats my opinion .Please comment if any of this facts are untrue From: J Purcell [mailto: freelightexpress@...]To: cures for AIDS@...: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:10:19 -0700Subject: oral sexHi all,Anyone know the current conventional view about oral sex and hivtransmission - the last I heard it was relatively safe, but not entirely.They said it was hard to track down a case or prove that hiv wastransmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it would be difficult todetermine such or have a clinical study on this as if any human ginnypigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that note I dont worryabout it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also swallowing is believedto be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any viruses. Anythoughts/opinions?paulRead AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 interesting opinion here...as I read in the article from aids .org oral sex seems the safe way to perform and as you say the acid will kill the virus.As what I had known HIV virus needs T cell from white blood cell in order to replicate itself into many forms .During the passage from mouth to to the food processing organs until to the disposing organs ,there are no blood trace inside.So the HIV virus just hitch a way ride from the mouth until to the waste. Thats my opinion .Please comment if any of this facts are untrue From: J Purcell [mailto: freelightexpress@...]To: cures for AIDS@...: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:10:19 -0700Subject: oral sexHi all,Anyone know the current conventional view about oral sex and hivtransmission - the last I heard it was relatively safe, but not entirely.They said it was hard to track down a case or prove that hiv wastransmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it would be difficult todetermine such or have a clinical study on this as if any human ginnypigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that note I dont worryabout it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also swallowing is believedto be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any viruses. Anythoughts/opinions?paulRead AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I don't have any stats but I do believe that I was infected orally 8 years ago. During the time that I " accepted " the virus (a moment I can only describe as similar to when a woman knows shes pregnant) I had not seen a dentist in years due to the lack of finances for insurance, therefore my gums were shot. I did/still do not practice anal sex much less barebacking and I know that two of the people I was sexually active with at the time were poz. All of the doctors I have seen have said it it possible to contract HIV with dental gums that are in poor health. That has been said with out my telling them how I believe I contracted mine. OutaCigs J Purcell <freelightexpress@...> wrote: Hi all, Anyone know the current conventional view about oral sex and hiv transmission - the last I heard it was relatively safe, but not entirely. They said it was hard to track down a case or prove that hiv was transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it would be difficult to determine such or have a clinical study on this as if any human ginny pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that note I dont worry about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also swallowing is believed to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any viruses. Any thoughts/opinions? paul Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I don't have any stats but I do believe that I was infected orally 8 years ago. During the time that I " accepted " the virus (a moment I can only describe as similar to when a woman knows shes pregnant) I had not seen a dentist in years due to the lack of finances for insurance, therefore my gums were shot. I did/still do not practice anal sex much less barebacking and I know that two of the people I was sexually active with at the time were poz. All of the doctors I have seen have said it it possible to contract HIV with dental gums that are in poor health. That has been said with out my telling them how I believe I contracted mine. OutaCigs J Purcell <freelightexpress@...> wrote: Hi all, Anyone know the current conventional view about oral sex and hiv transmission - the last I heard it was relatively safe, but not entirely. They said it was hard to track down a case or prove that hiv was transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it would be difficult to determine such or have a clinical study on this as if any human ginny pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that note I dont worry about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also swallowing is believed to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any viruses. Any thoughts/opinions? paul Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hi ! What I know is that if there is any ulcers in the mouth or any blisters on the penis, HIV can be transmitted but if there is none, danger is minimal. Just ask your head giver if she/he has any blisters in his/her mouth first. A number of STD can also be transmitted orally, notably Gonnorhea, even without blisters. Sylvain --- J Purcell <freelightexpress@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone know the current conventional view about oral > sex and hiv > transmission - the last I heard it was relatively > safe, but not entirely. > They said it was hard to track down a case or prove > that hiv was > transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it > would be difficult to > determine such or have a clinical study on this as > if any human ginny > pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that > note I dont worry > about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also > swallowing is believed > to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any > viruses. Any > thoughts/opinions? > > > paul > Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Hi ! What I know is that if there is any ulcers in the mouth or any blisters on the penis, HIV can be transmitted but if there is none, danger is minimal. Just ask your head giver if she/he has any blisters in his/her mouth first. A number of STD can also be transmitted orally, notably Gonnorhea, even without blisters. Sylvain --- J Purcell <freelightexpress@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone know the current conventional view about oral > sex and hiv > transmission - the last I heard it was relatively > safe, but not entirely. > They said it was hard to track down a case or prove > that hiv was > transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it > would be difficult to > determine such or have a clinical study on this as > if any human ginny > pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that > note I dont worry > about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also > swallowing is believed > to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any > viruses. Any > thoughts/opinions? > > > paul > Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: Just ask your head giver if she/he has any blisters in his/her mouth first. snip/ lol I like that, hmmm I personally had a nasty case of hep b from swallowing, pete > > Hi all, > > Anyone know the current conventional view about oral > sex and hiv > transmission - the last I heard it was relatively > safe, but not entirely. > They said it was hard to track down a case or prove > that hiv was > transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it > would be difficult to > determine such or have a clinical study on this as > if any human ginny > pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that > note I dont worry > about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also > swallowing is believed > to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any > viruses. Any > thoughts/opinions? > > > paul > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: Just ask your head giver if she/he has any blisters in his/her mouth first. snip/ lol I like that, hmmm I personally had a nasty case of hep b from swallowing, pete > > Hi all, > > Anyone know the current conventional view about oral > sex and hiv > transmission - the last I heard it was relatively > safe, but not entirely. > They said it was hard to track down a case or prove > that hiv was > transmitted via oral sex in any case. I imagine it > would be difficult to > determine such or have a clinical study on this as > if any human ginny > pigs would offer to be used as test-dummies. On that > note I dont worry > about it really....and enjoy such when I can. Also > swallowing is believed > to be 'safe' by some as the stomach acids kill any > viruses. Any > thoughts/opinions? > > > paul > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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