Guest guest Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 ATTN ALL: One " Sylvain Gagnon " is a shill for the charelton AKA " Professor Ozone " [ " Jovan " ] and neither is he a reputable ozone expert even among those who are involved letimately in this therapy. He has been charged with fraud in Canada in this regard and that isn't even his real name I believe. Again, there is no 'cure-all' for the 'catch- all' CDC catagory called " AIDS. " And anyone for offers a cure-all is misrepresenting the alternative medical model, which is holistic, meaning 'many-causes, many-courses/cures.' We've had this discussion before, but in case their are newbies who may not be aware. Ozone can be an effective therapy as a part of a multi-factorial program to addressing health, not 'disease' management. VIRUSMYTH DISSCUSSION FORUM [see Alternative Health folder] http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous > > > > > I will make sure he starts back taking the Mastic > > > Gum! I didn't know it > > > worked on yeast. Thanks for that tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > 313-665-9413 > > > GCTS Department > > > Supporting: > > > Charlotte Decker > > > Litt > > > Dianne Smock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jl@m...> > > > Sent by: cures for AIDS > > > 01/11/2006 09:57 AM > > > Please respond to > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > > > > To > > > <cures for AIDS > > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > Re: HELP Husband has yeast/esophagus > > > infection - Dr. debating > > > with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a H pylori infection last year and a stomach > > > ulcer. It was > > > incredibly > > > painful. I took mastic gum and it cleared it up > > > very well. I am still > > > taking a maintenance dose now just in case. > > Mastic > > > is brilliant because > > > it > > > kills H Pylori but it also kills candida/yeast as > > > well and is a fairly > > > good > > > anti-viral too. I would avoid antibiotics if > > > possible. They can > > > devastate > > > bowel flora and the immune system > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP Husband has > > > yeast/esophagus infection - Dr. > > > debating with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I wrote, but I hope > > > everyone is well. Won't > > > make > > > > this long, but I need emotional support and > > wisdom > > > how to go about this. > > > > My husband has been sick starting in July with > > h > > > pylori bacteria, > > > > (stomach bacterial infection), and because it > > > caused him pain to swallow > > > > he didn't eat and lost a considerable amount of > > > weight. He went from > > > 160 > > > > to 124, got it diagnosed, was treated with > > > antibiotics (Prev Pak, > > > > contained Amoxicillian plus a cocktail of other > > > antibiotics to take for > > > > about 3 weeks) he got better and started putting > > > on the weight and > > > eating. > > > > In his second week he developed an allergic > > > reaction to the medication > > > > and broke out in hives, so they took him off it, > > > and didn't give > > > anything > > > > else, nor did he return to the dr. > > > > > > > > Now we're in August and I noticed he has yeast > > on > > > his gums, I believe he > > > > has had yeast for YEARS. The dr gives him > > > Nystatin to clear it up, but > > > he > > > > didn't take it right and the yeast continued to > > > grow. Starting at Xmas > > > > time, he began to complain about his throat and > > > chest, and started > > > losing > > > > weight again. By New Years, he was exhibiting > > > similar symptoms to > > > > diabetes, (frequent urinating, and excessive > > > thirst, fatigue) and this > > > > runs in his family. So I made an appointment > > > thinking he may have > > > > diabetes and the bacteria infection was flaring > > > back up. > > > > > > > > I took him to the dr and his tests for diabetes > > > came back negative, and > > > he > > > > wanted to do more blood work including an HIV > > > test, which we both been > > > > there done that, and objected to the nurse. The > > > dr prescribed Nexium > > > and > > > > last night it made my husband sick, the fact > > that > > > he hadn't been eating > > > or > > > > drinking didn't help, due to the severe pain in > > > his throat. He is down > > > to > > > > 130, again because it's too painful to swallow. > > > > > > > > When I came home from work last night, he was > > OUT > > > OF IT, dehydrated and > > > > when he opened his mouth his tongue was full of > > > yeast. We took him to > > > the > > > > emergency, and was diagnosed with the yeast and > > > infected esophagus. The > > > > hospital also offered an HIV test and we > > objected. > > > > > > > > Well I get a call this morning from his dr, > > nicely > > > asking me why we > > > > objected to the test. I told him I don't feel > > HIV > > > isn't his problem, > > > > yeast and an infected esophagus is. He said, > > he's > > > not saying he has > > > hiv, > > > > but why else would he loose all this weight, and > > > get yeast... in his > > > > mouth? I told him because he hasn't ate in > > months > > > due to the pain, and > > > it > > > > has not been confirmed that his bacterial > > > infection has been cleared up. > > > > He said well he thinks we should have it just to > > > rule it out, he just > > > > can't understand why or where this yeast is > > coming > > > from, why the weight > > > > lost, the lack of energy.... blah blah blah. > > > > > > > > I was in a parking lot, and quite thrown off > > > almost in tears, not quite > > > > knowing how to respond. I just kept saying he > > > needs to be treated for > > > the > > > > yeast, and infection, we refuse to take this > > test. > > > === message truncated === > > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@s... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 First of all, there was no swindle so there is no shill. I am totally objective in my research and so far i can tell that with the Beck protocol, my viral load went from 140,000 to 70,000, then I went home after 3 years and partied a lot with my friends. Who knows how high my viral load went then. After that, I went on ozone therapy under the supervision of Jovan and his protocol is very holistic, nothing comes into the body else than his very strict protocol and my viral load came down to 45,000 after 2.5 months. I did not do much therapy all winter as I was very busy and don't get sick anymore anyway. My research doesn't end there, I have been trying Tetrasil, Colloidal silver with aloevera 200ppm to treat some rashes in the groin and toes area and recently DMSO, next I try DMSO in combination with one of the 2 others. I can say that the Tetrasil and DMSO are very efficient but it doesn't last that long. Soon, I am going to India to try the claimed cure that reverses the condition to HIV negative. Of course there are always jealous people who are trying to discredit the ones who are succesfull or who's findings invalidate their reality. All I am trying to do is to report objectively my personal findings. I am not a scientist but I use my body as a laboratory. In India, I will be staying at the clinic and will witness the daily claimed conversions. I am bringing with me some self-tests to verify it myself. If HIV exists or not is irrelevant of the psychological and social dammage it can bring to one's life so if there is a way to become HIV negative, I will find out for sure if it exists and will report it to you members of this group. Thanks for reading my humble testimony. Sylvain --- Jon Landis <kellyjon23@...> wrote: > ATTN ALL: > > One " Sylvain Gagnon " is a shill for the charelton > AKA " Professor > Ozone " [ " Jovan " ] and neither is he a reputable > ozone expert even > among those who are involved letimately in this > therapy. He has been > charged with fraud in Canada in this regard and that > isn't even his > real name I believe. Again, there is no 'cure-all' > for the 'catch- > all' CDC catagory called " AIDS. " And anyone for > offers a cure-all is > misrepresenting the alternative medical model, which > is holistic, > meaning 'many-causes, many-courses/cures.' We've had > this discussion > before, but in case their are newbies who may not be > aware. Ozone can > be an effective therapy as a part of a > multi-factorial program to > addressing health, not 'disease' management. > > > > VIRUSMYTH DISSCUSSION FORUM > [see Alternative Health folder] > http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous > > > > > > > > > > I will make sure he starts back taking the > Mastic > > > > Gum! I didn't know it > > > > worked on yeast. Thanks for that tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > 313-665-9413 > > > > GCTS Department > > > > Supporting: > > > > Charlotte Decker > > > > Litt > > > > Dianne Smock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jl@m...> > > > > Sent by: cures for AIDS > > > > 01/11/2006 09:57 AM > > > > Please respond to > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > <cures for AIDS > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: HELP Husband has > yeast/esophagus > > > > infection - Dr. debating > > > > with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a H pylori infection last year and a > stomach > > > > ulcer. It was > > > > incredibly > > > > painful. I took mastic gum and it cleared it > up > > > > very well. I am still > > > > taking a maintenance dose now just in case. > > > Mastic > > > > is brilliant because > > > > it > > > > kills H Pylori but it also kills candida/yeast > as > > > > well and is a fairly > > > > good > > > > anti-viral too. I would avoid antibiotics if > > > > possible. They can > > > > devastate > > > > bowel flora and the immune system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP Husband has > > > > yeast/esophagus infection - Dr. > > > > debating with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I wrote, but I hope > > > > everyone is well. Won't > > > > make > > > > > this long, but I need emotional support and > > > wisdom > > > > how to go about this. > > > > > My husband has been sick starting in July > with > > > h > > > > pylori bacteria, > > > > > (stomach bacterial infection), and because > it > > > > caused him pain to swallow > > > > > he didn't eat and lost a considerable amount > of > > > > weight. He went from > > > > 160 > > > > > to 124, got it diagnosed, was treated with > > > > antibiotics (Prev Pak, > > > > > contained Amoxicillian plus a cocktail of > other > > > > antibiotics to take for > > > > > about 3 weeks) he got better and started > putting > > > > on the weight and > > > > eating. > > > > > In his second week he developed an allergic > > > > reaction to the medication > > > > > and broke out in hives, so they took him off > it, > > > > and didn't give > > > > anything > > > > > else, nor did he return to the dr. > > > > > > > > > > Now we're in August and I noticed he has > yeast > > > on > > > > his gums, I believe he > > > > > has had yeast for YEARS. The dr gives him > > > > Nystatin to clear it up, but > > > > he > > > > > didn't take it right and the yeast continued > to > > > > grow. Starting at Xmas > > > > > time, he began to complain about his throat > and > > > > chest, and started > > > > losing > > > > > weight again. By New Years, he was > exhibiting > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 First of all, there was no swindle so there is no shill. I am totally objective in my research and so far i can tell that with the Beck protocol, my viral load went from 140,000 to 70,000, then I went home after 3 years and partied a lot with my friends. Who knows how high my viral load went then. After that, I went on ozone therapy under the supervision of Jovan and his protocol is very holistic, nothing comes into the body else than his very strict protocol and my viral load came down to 45,000 after 2.5 months. I did not do much therapy all winter as I was very busy and don't get sick anymore anyway. My research doesn't end there, I have been trying Tetrasil, Colloidal silver with aloevera 200ppm to treat some rashes in the groin and toes area and recently DMSO, next I try DMSO in combination with one of the 2 others. I can say that the Tetrasil and DMSO are very efficient but it doesn't last that long. Soon, I am going to India to try the claimed cure that reverses the condition to HIV negative. Of course there are always jealous people who are trying to discredit the ones who are succesfull or who's findings invalidate their reality. All I am trying to do is to report objectively my personal findings. I am not a scientist but I use my body as a laboratory. In India, I will be staying at the clinic and will witness the daily claimed conversions. I am bringing with me some self-tests to verify it myself. If HIV exists or not is irrelevant of the psychological and social dammage it can bring to one's life so if there is a way to become HIV negative, I will find out for sure if it exists and will report it to you members of this group. Thanks for reading my humble testimony. Sylvain --- Jon Landis <kellyjon23@...> wrote: > ATTN ALL: > > One " Sylvain Gagnon " is a shill for the charelton > AKA " Professor > Ozone " [ " Jovan " ] and neither is he a reputable > ozone expert even > among those who are involved letimately in this > therapy. He has been > charged with fraud in Canada in this regard and that > isn't even his > real name I believe. Again, there is no 'cure-all' > for the 'catch- > all' CDC catagory called " AIDS. " And anyone for > offers a cure-all is > misrepresenting the alternative medical model, which > is holistic, > meaning 'many-causes, many-courses/cures.' We've had > this discussion > before, but in case their are newbies who may not be > aware. Ozone can > be an effective therapy as a part of a > multi-factorial program to > addressing health, not 'disease' management. > > > > VIRUSMYTH DISSCUSSION FORUM > [see Alternative Health folder] > http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous > > > > > > > > > > I will make sure he starts back taking the > Mastic > > > > Gum! I didn't know it > > > > worked on yeast. Thanks for that tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > 313-665-9413 > > > > GCTS Department > > > > Supporting: > > > > Charlotte Decker > > > > Litt > > > > Dianne Smock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jl@m...> > > > > Sent by: cures for AIDS > > > > 01/11/2006 09:57 AM > > > > Please respond to > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > <cures for AIDS > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > Re: HELP Husband has > yeast/esophagus > > > > infection - Dr. debating > > > > with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a H pylori infection last year and a > stomach > > > > ulcer. It was > > > > incredibly > > > > painful. I took mastic gum and it cleared it > up > > > > very well. I am still > > > > taking a maintenance dose now just in case. > > > Mastic > > > > is brilliant because > > > > it > > > > kills H Pylori but it also kills candida/yeast > as > > > > well and is a fairly > > > > good > > > > anti-viral too. I would avoid antibiotics if > > > > possible. They can > > > > devastate > > > > bowel flora and the immune system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP Husband has > > > > yeast/esophagus infection - Dr. > > > > debating with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I wrote, but I hope > > > > everyone is well. Won't > > > > make > > > > > this long, but I need emotional support and > > > wisdom > > > > how to go about this. > > > > > My husband has been sick starting in July > with > > > h > > > > pylori bacteria, > > > > > (stomach bacterial infection), and because > it > > > > caused him pain to swallow > > > > > he didn't eat and lost a considerable amount > of > > > > weight. He went from > > > > 160 > > > > > to 124, got it diagnosed, was treated with > > > > antibiotics (Prev Pak, > > > > > contained Amoxicillian plus a cocktail of > other > > > > antibiotics to take for > > > > > about 3 weeks) he got better and started > putting > > > > on the weight and > > > > eating. > > > > > In his second week he developed an allergic > > > > reaction to the medication > > > > > and broke out in hives, so they took him off > it, > > > > and didn't give > > > > anything > > > > > else, nor did he return to the dr. > > > > > > > > > > Now we're in August and I noticed he has > yeast > > > on > > > > his gums, I believe he > > > > > has had yeast for YEARS. The dr gives him > > > > Nystatin to clear it up, but > > > > he > > > > > didn't take it right and the yeast continued > to > > > > grow. Starting at Xmas > > > > > time, he began to complain about his throat > and > > > > chest, and started > > > > losing > > > > > weight again. By New Years, he was > exhibiting > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 > > > > > > > > > I will make sure he starts back taking the > > Mastic > > > > > Gum! I didn't know it > > > > > worked on yeast. Thanks for that tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > 313-665-9413 > > > > > GCTS Department > > > > > Supporting: > > > > > Charlotte Decker > > > > > Litt > > > > > Dianne Smock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jl@m...> > > > > > Sent by: cures for AIDS > > > > > 01/11/2006 09:57 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > <cures for AIDS > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: HELP Husband has > > yeast/esophagus > > > > > infection - Dr. debating > > > > > with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a H pylori infection last year and a > > stomach > > > > > ulcer. It was > > > > > incredibly > > > > > painful. I took mastic gum and it cleared it > > up > > > > > very well. I am still > > > > > taking a maintenance dose now just in case. > > > > Mastic > > > > > is brilliant because > > > > > it > > > > > kills H Pylori but it also kills candida/yeast > > as > > > > > well and is a fairly > > > > > good > > > > > anti-viral too. I would avoid antibiotics if > > > > > possible. They can > > > > > devastate > > > > > bowel flora and the immune system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP Husband has > > > > > yeast/esophagus infection - Dr. > > > > > debating with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I wrote, but I hope > > > > > everyone is well. Won't > > > > > make > > > > > > this long, but I need emotional support and > > > > wisdom > > > > > how to go about this. > > > > > > My husband has been sick starting in July > > with > > > > h > > > > > pylori bacteria, > > > > > > (stomach bacterial infection), and because > > it > > > > > caused him pain to swallow > > > > > > he didn't eat and lost a considerable amount > > of > > > > > weight. He went from > > > > > 160 > > > > > > to 124, got it diagnosed, was treated with > > > > > antibiotics (Prev Pak, > > > > > > contained Amoxicillian plus a cocktail of > > other > > > > > antibiotics to take for > > > > > > about 3 weeks) he got better and started > > putting > > > > > on the weight and > > > > > eating. > > > > > > In his second week he developed an allergic > > > > > reaction to the medication > > > > > > and broke out in hives, so they took him off > > it, > > > > > and didn't give > > > > > anything > > > > > > else, nor did he return to the dr. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we're in August and I noticed he has > > yeast > > > > on > > > > > his gums, I believe he > > > > > > has had yeast for YEARS. The dr gives him > > > > > Nystatin to clear it up, but > > > > > he > > > > > > didn't take it right and the yeast continued > > to > > > > > grow. Starting at Xmas > > > > > > time, he began to complain about his throat > > and > > > > > chest, and started > > > > > losing > > > > > > weight again. By New Years, he was > > exhibiting > > > === message truncated === > > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@s... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 > > > > > > > > > I will make sure he starts back taking the > > Mastic > > > > > Gum! I didn't know it > > > > > worked on yeast. Thanks for that tip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > 313-665-9413 > > > > > GCTS Department > > > > > Supporting: > > > > > Charlotte Decker > > > > > Litt > > > > > Dianne Smock > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jl@m...> > > > > > Sent by: cures for AIDS > > > > > 01/11/2006 09:57 AM > > > > > Please respond to > > > > > cures for AIDS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > <cures for AIDS > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > Re: HELP Husband has > > yeast/esophagus > > > > > infection - Dr. debating > > > > > with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a H pylori infection last year and a > > stomach > > > > > ulcer. It was > > > > > incredibly > > > > > painful. I took mastic gum and it cleared it > > up > > > > > very well. I am still > > > > > taking a maintenance dose now just in case. > > > > Mastic > > > > > is brilliant because > > > > > it > > > > > kills H Pylori but it also kills candida/yeast > > as > > > > > well and is a fairly > > > > > good > > > > > anti-viral too. I would avoid antibiotics if > > > > > possible. They can > > > > > devastate > > > > > bowel flora and the immune system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HELP Husband has > > > > > yeast/esophagus infection - Dr. > > > > > debating with me about a HIV test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I wrote, but I hope > > > > > everyone is well. Won't > > > > > make > > > > > > this long, but I need emotional support and > > > > wisdom > > > > > how to go about this. > > > > > > My husband has been sick starting in July > > with > > > > h > > > > > pylori bacteria, > > > > > > (stomach bacterial infection), and because > > it > > > > > caused him pain to swallow > > > > > > he didn't eat and lost a considerable amount > > of > > > > > weight. He went from > > > > > 160 > > > > > > to 124, got it diagnosed, was treated with > > > > > antibiotics (Prev Pak, > > > > > > contained Amoxicillian plus a cocktail of > > other > > > > > antibiotics to take for > > > > > > about 3 weeks) he got better and started > > putting > > > > > on the weight and > > > > > eating. > > > > > > In his second week he developed an allergic > > > > > reaction to the medication > > > > > > and broke out in hives, so they took him off > > it, > > > > > and didn't give > > > > > anything > > > > > > else, nor did he return to the dr. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we're in August and I noticed he has > > yeast > > > > on > > > > > his gums, I believe he > > > > > > has had yeast for YEARS. The dr gives him > > > > > Nystatin to clear it up, but > > > > > he > > > > > > didn't take it right and the yeast continued > > to > > > > > grow. Starting at Xmas > > > > > > time, he began to complain about his throat > > and > > > > > chest, and started > > > > > losing > > > > > > weight again. By New Years, he was > > exhibiting > > > === message truncated === > > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@s... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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