Re: Fw: Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic acid

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

My son also has autistic enterocolitis. So, at least for him,

the mercury and loads of arsenic are coming out in stool while on

LA.

Amy

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Originally From: " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@...>

Subject: Fw: [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic

acid

Date: 08/15/2000 02:09pm

Amy

What would this do to the enterocolitis kids? Would it be eliminated

or

stuck there in the gut?

Kathy

[ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic acid

>Listmates,

>

>I have been following my son's lab values for urine toxic metals

>for a while on DMSA alone, and now on DMSA plus lipoic acid. For

>the first 8 or so rounds of DMSA plus lipoic acid I used a 50:50

>ratio of the two. Urine mercury was running pretty consistently

>around 4.8 to 5.2 mcg/g creatinine. For some strange reason, I

>decided to play around with the lipoic acid dose and increased it

>by 50% for the next 4 cycles. To my horror, urine mercury was

>zero the first time I tested it on this new dose. So, I figured

>the increased lipoic acid dose was probably dumping everything into

>stool (via bile), and tested fecal metals (also DDI). The results

>came back today. What a surprise. Yes, the mercury was there (a

>lot), but what really shocked me was the huge amount of arsenic

>coming out in stool. At the bottom of the report was a little

>note " arsenic rechecked " . I guess DDI was a little surprised too.

>So this confirms exactly what Andy has been saying - lipoic acid

>does a great number on arsenic.

>

>I am going to continue playing with the dose to try to get some

>data. So, the good news is that the addition of lipoic acid does

>a super job getting rid of mercury and arsenic. The bad news is

>that it is really dumping it into stool via bile where it is

>much more trouble (and more $$) to test.

>

>Amy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amy,

You scoped him? and saw the lesions in the ileum?

Heidi

[ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic acid

>

>

> >Listmates,

> >

> >I have been following my son's lab values for urine toxic metals

> >for a while on DMSA alone, and now on DMSA plus lipoic acid. For

> >the first 8 or so rounds of DMSA plus lipoic acid I used a 50:50

> >ratio of the two. Urine mercury was running pretty consistently

> >around 4.8 to 5.2 mcg/g creatinine. For some strange reason, I

> >decided to play around with the lipoic acid dose and increased it

> >by 50% for the next 4 cycles. To my horror, urine mercury was

> >zero the first time I tested it on this new dose. So, I figured

> >the increased lipoic acid dose was probably dumping everything into

> >stool (via bile), and tested fecal metals (also DDI). The results

> >came back today. What a surprise. Yes, the mercury was there (a

> >lot), but what really shocked me was the huge amount of arsenic

> >coming out in stool. At the bottom of the report was a little

> >note " arsenic rechecked " . I guess DDI was a little surprised too.

> >So this confirms exactly what Andy has been saying - lipoic acid

> >does a great number on arsenic.

> >

> >I am going to continue playing with the dose to try to get some

> >data. So, the good news is that the addition of lipoic acid does

> >a super job getting rid of mercury and arsenic. The bad news is

> >that it is really dumping it into stool via bile where it is

> >much more trouble (and more $$) to test.

> >

> >Amy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just curious,

How do these kids get arsenic poisoning?

Amy Holmes wrote:

> Kathy,

>

> My son also has autistic enterocolitis. So, at least for him,

> the mercury and loads of arsenic are coming out in stool while on

> LA.

>

> Amy

>

> ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------

> Originally From: " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@...>

> Subject: Fw: [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic

> acid

> Date: 08/15/2000 02:09pm

>

> Amy

> What would this do to the enterocolitis kids? Would it be eliminated

> or

> stuck there in the gut?

> Kathy

> [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic acid

>

> >Listmates,

> >

> >I have been following my son's lab values for urine toxic metals

> >for a while on DMSA alone, and now on DMSA plus lipoic acid. For

> >the first 8 or so rounds of DMSA plus lipoic acid I used a 50:50

> >ratio of the two. Urine mercury was running pretty consistently

> >around 4.8 to 5.2 mcg/g creatinine. For some strange reason, I

> >decided to play around with the lipoic acid dose and increased it

> >by 50% for the next 4 cycles. To my horror, urine mercury was

> >zero the first time I tested it on this new dose. So, I figured

> >the increased lipoic acid dose was probably dumping everything into

> >stool (via bile), and tested fecal metals (also DDI). The results

> >came back today. What a surprise. Yes, the mercury was there (a

> >lot), but what really shocked me was the huge amount of arsenic

> >coming out in stool. At the bottom of the report was a little

> >note " arsenic rechecked " . I guess DDI was a little surprised too.

> >So this confirms exactly what Andy has been saying - lipoic acid

> >does a great number on arsenic.

> >

> >I am going to continue playing with the dose to try to get some

> >data. So, the good news is that the addition of lipoic acid does

> >a super job getting rid of mercury and arsenic. The bad news is

> >that it is really dumping it into stool via bile where it is

> >much more trouble (and more $$) to test.

> >

> >Amy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE EACH CHILD GETS IT BUT IT IS A CONTAMINATE

IN MANY WATER SYSTEMS AND HAS BEEN USED IN AGRICULTURE AND EVEN RAT

POISONING.

>

> > Kathy,

> >

> > My son also has autistic enterocolitis. So, at least for him,

> > the mercury and loads of arsenic are coming out in stool while on

> > LA.

> >

> > Amy

> >

> > ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------

> > Originally From: " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@m...>

> > Subject: Fw: [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus

lipoic

> > acid

> > Date: 08/15/2000 02:09pm

> >

> > Amy

> > What would this do to the enterocolitis kids? Would it be

eliminated

> > or

> > stuck there in the gut?

> > Kathy

> > [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic

acid

> >

> > >Listmates,

> > >

> > >I have been following my son's lab values for urine toxic metals

> > >for a while on DMSA alone, and now on DMSA plus lipoic acid. For

> > >the first 8 or so rounds of DMSA plus lipoic acid I used a 50:50

> > >ratio of the two. Urine mercury was running pretty consistently

> > >around 4.8 to 5.2 mcg/g creatinine. For some strange reason, I

> > >decided to play around with the lipoic acid dose and increased it

> > >by 50% for the next 4 cycles. To my horror, urine mercury was

> > >zero the first time I tested it on this new dose. So, I figured

> > >the increased lipoic acid dose was probably dumping everything

into

> > >stool (via bile), and tested fecal metals (also DDI). The

results

> > >came back today. What a surprise. Yes, the mercury was there (a

> > >lot), but what really shocked me was the huge amount of arsenic

> > >coming out in stool. At the bottom of the report was a little

> > >note " arsenic rechecked " . I guess DDI was a little surprised

too.

> > >So this confirms exactly what Andy has been saying - lipoic acid

> > >does a great number on arsenic.

> > >

> > >I am going to continue playing with the dose to try to get some

> > >data. So, the good news is that the addition of lipoic acid does

> > >a super job getting rid of mercury and arsenic. The bad news is

> > >that it is really dumping it into stool via bile where it is

> > >much more trouble (and more $$) to test.

> > >

> > >Amy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

<< Some treated wood used in decks, playgrounds and fencing still contains

arsenic. >>

Actually it was my understanding that almost all of it does. Anything with a

slightly greenish tinge or that is marked with a little tag that says " CCA "

when it comes from the hardware store or lumber yard.

Andy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/16/00 6:36:44 PM, bridalsh@... writes:

<< How do you get the arsenic out of child's body?>>

Alpha lipoic acid.

<<What are the symptoms of arsenic poison? >>

Similar to mercury. Additionally, skin lesions, weakness, fearfulness,

vision sensitive to very small changes in glasses prescriptions.

Andy

[Guest guest]

> How do these kids get arsenic poisoning?

Pressure treated wood, wooden fencing material and many insecticides used to

contain arsenic. Some treated wood used in decks, playgrounds and fencing

still contains arsenic.

Bob Fisher

Kalamazoo, Michigan

" Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change

the world; it's the only thing that ever does " Margaret Mead

>

> > Kathy,

> >

> > My son also has autistic enterocolitis. So, at least for him,

> > the mercury and loads of arsenic are coming out in stool while on

> > LA.

> >

> > Amy

> >

> > ------------------ Reply Separator --------------------

> > Originally From: " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@m...>

> > Subject: Fw: [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus

lipoic

> > acid

> > Date: 08/15/2000 02:09pm

> >

> > Amy

> > What would this do to the enterocolitis kids? Would it be

eliminated

> > or

> > stuck there in the gut?

> > Kathy

> > [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic

acid

> >

> > >Listmates,

> > >

> > >I have been following my son's lab values for urine toxic metals

> > >for a while on DMSA alone, and now on DMSA plus lipoic acid. For

> > >the first 8 or so rounds of DMSA plus lipoic acid I used a 50:50

> > >ratio of the two. Urine mercury was running pretty consistently

> > >around 4.8 to 5.2 mcg/g creatinine. For some strange reason, I

> > >decided to play around with the lipoic acid dose and increased it

> > >by 50% for the next 4 cycles. To my horror, urine mercury was

> > >zero the first time I tested it on this new dose. So, I figured

> > >the increased lipoic acid dose was probably dumping everything

into

> > >stool (via bile), and tested fecal metals (also DDI). The

results

> > >came back today. What a surprise. Yes, the mercury was there (a

> > >lot), but what really shocked me was the huge amount of arsenic

> > >coming out in stool. At the bottom of the report was a little

> > >note " arsenic rechecked " . I guess DDI was a little surprised

too.

> > >So this confirms exactly what Andy has been saying - lipoic acid

> > >does a great number on arsenic.

> > >

> > >I am going to continue playing with the dose to try to get some

> > >data. So, the good news is that the addition of lipoic acid does

> > >a super job getting rid of mercury and arsenic. The bad news is

> > >that it is really dumping it into stool via bile where it is

> > >much more trouble (and more $$) to test.

> > >

> > >Amy

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How do you get the arsenic out of child's body?

What are the symptoms of arsenic poison?

Thank You Sincerely,

Beverly Weakley

Mom of Jen

Re: Fw: [ ] Results of Testing - DMSA plus lipoic acid

> << Some treated wood used in decks, playgrounds and fencing still contains

> arsenic. >>

>

> Actually it was my understanding that almost all of it does. Anything

with a

> slightly greenish tinge or that is marked with a little tag that says

" CCA "

> when it comes from the hardware store or lumber yard.

>

> Andy

>

>

>

>