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Hannah,<br><br>The advice seems sound. I had

annoying tracking/CP symptoms for 25 years in one knee. It

certainly forced me to limit jogging and later cycling

(hills inflamed knee) and in the past couple of years

walking more than a couple of miles but my knee did not

deteriorate much until just this past year. I wonder if

taking aspirin the past year or so--never took any

NSAIDS before that--and pushing the walking distance

beyond my normal pain limits (to rehabilitate a bad

back)--caused the rapid deterioration recently.<br><br>You

probably can maintain your status for years if you do the

exercises, avoid NSAIDS and don't push beyond the pain

limit.<br><br>I am now attempting to reverse the CP damage with

injections underneath the kneecap to stimulate mild

localized inflammation and hopefully collagen growth

(prolo-therapy I mentioned before). No noticeable results as yet

(two weeks) but, if it works, it will take many

weeks.<br><br>My doctors recommend " spinning " several miles daily

on an exercise bike (with no resistance) because

they claim the knee joint needs motion for

nourishment--oxygen (from blood), etc.--and movement is the only way

to get it.<br><br>I was too cheap to buy an exercise

bike for a long time and now regret it. I can see that

with a heavy flywheel (40 lbs or so), my $170 bike

(Sears Pro Form 928L) can provide lots of momentum for

minimal stress (as compared to regular cycling--even on

level ground). I also like the mileage

meter.<br><br>The doctors also emphasize (straight) leg lifts while

lying on floor many reps each day.<br><br>I'm curious.

What is a " physio " and what exercises were you given?

<br><br>Good luck.<br><br>Tom

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Hi Hannah<br><br>As far as I'm aware CP is a

" softening " condition of the patellar cartilage like your

physio said. I don't know how it's caused but apparently

it's more common in young women rather than men

(compare the no of females to males in this

group!)<br><br>However, I'm not sure how your physio

(physiotherapist/physical therapist/PT) made the diagnosis? How do you know

what the cartilage wear is? Have you had MRI or

arthroscopy? Did your physio do some kind of procedure to

asses the cartilage wear?<br><br>My PT yanks my legs

all over the place and says everything

ligaments/muscles/cartilage seems OK. But I don't think this is right and I

don't think she can tell how much wear there is. It

feels bad to me! How does your physio tell

this?<br><br>Good luck with the exercise! I think Tom (holyflower)

gave some good advice about the cycling machine...

apparently you have to move knee joints to get nutrients

into cartilage etc... (but don't flex more than 90

degrees and use no weight and be veryyyyy careful).

Personally I can't face using the cycling machine in the

same gym where I busted my knees!! Grrrrr<br><br>Joe

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He sort of made a generalisation but he made his

judgement on the rather load grinding noise my knee makes

when I squat and the pulling my legs left right and

centre. He siad he was suprised that nothing showed up on

the Xray and that if it had been from a different

angle he would have expected to see the

wear.<br><br>Like your PT mine said that I my ligaments, tendons

and muscles seemed to be fine, but needed a little

bit of work to help relieve the pain.<br><br>hannah

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Yep, my knees make a grinding noise too and

X-rays are " normal apart from minor osteo-arthritis

behind the right patella " . Doesn't explain the soreness

in the left knee or the ankles for that matter...!

Anybody else got ankle pain?<br>Joe

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well well well...

long story.

told them i would hire my own privately if they don't send me someone

half decent.

they said its hard to find someone in our area.

i said OH YAAAAA well i dont think so because i already called one and

we have a luncheon this afternoon!!!!

funny, the company called me at 5:30 THIS evening and told me the name

of new person starting with miss shan.

LOLOL

actually today was hard day dealing with all that crap. but looks like

we are out with old and in with new.

funny, how they made sure to have someone so quick once they new i was

interviewing my own iwth our private insurance.

gosh,

Arlene

what has shan done to be. i would not say Boo before and now i am

........uhhhh .... i think the word is assertive?! LOL

i can think of a few other words myself thankyou very much!

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well well well...

long story.

told them i would hire my own privately if they don't send me someone

half decent.

they said its hard to find someone in our area.

i said OH YAAAAA well i dont think so because i already called one and

we have a luncheon this afternoon!!!!

funny, the company called me at 5:30 THIS evening and told me the name

of new person starting with miss shan.

LOLOL

actually today was hard day dealing with all that crap. but looks like

we are out with old and in with new.

funny, how they made sure to have someone so quick once they new i was

interviewing my own iwth our private insurance.

gosh,

Arlene

what has shan done to be. i would not say Boo before and now i am

........uhhhh .... i think the word is assertive?! LOL

i can think of a few other words myself thankyou very much!

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By sympathetic Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Seethalmark <seethalmark@...>Sender: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:28:35 +0100Ore< >Reply Subject: Physio Fight and flight controlled by ???Sent from my iPhone

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Histodifferentiation in cap stage and morpho in bud stage .Sent from my iPadOn 11 Apr 2012, at 15:43, dr_hibahaboubi@... wrote:

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Does anyone have McQs regarding anatomy,physio, micro,etc please could u send it to me. I want to do revision. Thank youSent from my iPadOn 11 Apr 2012, at 15:45, Rahul <rahulsushilgandhi@...> wrote:

Histodifferentiation in cap stage and morpho in bud stage .Sent from my iPadOn 11 Apr 2012, at 15:43, dr_hibahaboubi@... wrote:

By sympathetic Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Seethalmark <seethalmark@...>

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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:28:35 +0100Ore< >Reply

Subject: Physio

Fight and flight controlled by ???

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Blue book says morphodifferntiation start at cap stage? Sent from my iPhoneOn 11 Apr 2012, at 15:45, Rahul <rahulsushilgandhi@...> wrote:

Histodifferentiation in cap stage and morpho in bud stage .Sent from my iPadOn 11 Apr 2012, at 15:43, dr_hibahaboubi@... wrote:

By sympathetic Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom: Seethalmark <seethalmark@...>

Sender:

Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:28:35 +0100Ore< >Reply

Subject: Physio

Fight and flight controlled by ???

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