Re: P.S. on Clothes for Kids with Ds

[Guest guest]

(laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there on

this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

do!!!

(who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

[Guest guest]

(laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there on

this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

do!!!

(who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 10:51:43 AM Canada Central Standard Time,

lauralk38@... writes:

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there on

>

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

Actually you're not. :-)

Personally I do'nt buy alot of name brand stuff for my kids, never have. One

year Kristi and wanted a pair of Guess jeans, I mean everyone else

wears them so you got ta have em. YOu know what I mean, well the got thost

$75 jeans for a Christmas gift, and a few little things, I mean I could have

gotten them a pair of jeans plus 2 or 3 tops for that money. They never

asked for guess or any other name brand again. hehe. Does that mean they

didn't dress nicely? of course not. And they werne't the only ones who's

parents wouldn't buy all the overpriced stuff....and some of those parents

are better off then us. hehe.

I would advice checking at Old Navy for jeans for the hard to fit kids like

ours, they aren't overpriced and actually fit pretty well....except for the

length. LOL We rollem up. I also like Lands End.

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 10:51:43 AM Canada Central Standard Time,

lauralk38@... writes:

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there on

>

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

Actually you're not. :-)

Personally I do'nt buy alot of name brand stuff for my kids, never have. One

year Kristi and wanted a pair of Guess jeans, I mean everyone else

wears them so you got ta have em. YOu know what I mean, well the got thost

$75 jeans for a Christmas gift, and a few little things, I mean I could have

gotten them a pair of jeans plus 2 or 3 tops for that money. They never

asked for guess or any other name brand again. hehe. Does that mean they

didn't dress nicely? of course not. And they werne't the only ones who's

parents wouldn't buy all the overpriced stuff....and some of those parents

are better off then us. hehe.

I would advice checking at Old Navy for jeans for the hard to fit kids like

ours, they aren't overpriced and actually fit pretty well....except for the

length. LOL We rollem up. I also like Lands End.

Joy

[Guest guest]

Oh gosh, I do hope you are right

Old Navy's clothes are comparable price wise to what you find in KMart or

Walmart. It's my opinion that their waist sizes are a tad bit bigger than

other clothes.

We've had this discussion so many times in the past 6 years....you missed

out on hearing about the mom who irons her daughters socks...lol. She has

several (I think 15) kids, most with disabilities...several with DS.

BTW, it's 492 now (what I last saw)... We'll hit 500 sometime soon.

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh gosh, I do hope you are right

Old Navy's clothes are comparable price wise to what you find in KMart or

Walmart. It's my opinion that their waist sizes are a tad bit bigger than

other clothes.

We've had this discussion so many times in the past 6 years....you missed

out on hearing about the mom who irons her daughters socks...lol. She has

several (I think 15) kids, most with disabilities...several with DS.

BTW, it's 492 now (what I last saw)... We'll hit 500 sometime soon.

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Old Navy is more expensive here in the Upstate of SC. I shop Target or

Osh/Kosh Outlet most. I also get Stride Rite shoes (outlet shopping if

possible) because they fit and give her better support.

mom to Bridget 8 ds

<cindysue@...> wrote: Oh gosh, I do hope you are right

Old Navy's clothes are comparable price wise to what you find in KMart or

Walmart. It's my opinion that their waist sizes are a tad bit bigger than

other clothes.

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[Guest guest]

Old Navy is more expensive here in the Upstate of SC. I shop Target or

Osh/Kosh Outlet most. I also get Stride Rite shoes (outlet shopping if

possible) because they fit and give her better support.

mom to Bridget 8 ds

<cindysue@...> wrote: Oh gosh, I do hope you are right

Old Navy's clothes are comparable price wise to what you find in KMart or

Walmart. It's my opinion that their waist sizes are a tad bit bigger than

other clothes.

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

I have two thoughts about this whole issue. I don't usually buy my kids

all of the " label " clothing...we simply can't afford it and as my kids

are getting older, I am seeing the kids who only wear the labels getting

more judgmental towards the kids that don't. So, I can understand your

point about the name brands. Although, if I am out at a garage sale or

see a good sale, I do purchase name brand things and last month I

splurged and bought some real Levis (size 3T) and they fit him so

cute, I ran back and bought another pair for him even though it was only

just an 'okay' sale!

My other comment is that my husband and I made the same pledge to

eachother as many of the other folks on this subject, that we would make

sure that he would never get teased because of his clothing. We always

make sure that he has his hair cut cute ( I cut my other boys hair, but

not 's. I want his to be perfect...my other sons can use gel and

stuff to make theirs look cute, with he needs a better cut and has

thinner hair so it is harder to make it stay cute), combed, a clean face

(which can be VERY hard to keep when you are a 4yr old boy! heehee) and

nice, stylish clean clothes. This is, of course, the same thing we did

for our other children, but we put in more hours of keeping him looking

nice (partly because he spends more time getting dirty and undoing

everything we do...we are CONSTANTLY tucking the shirt in, wiping the

face, retying the shoe laces, putting the shirt and pants back on,

combing the hair, changing the dirty shirt, putting the shoes on AGAIN,

wiping the nose, etc. My other kids did more of that on their own and

didn't seem to get so dirty and undone. So, if buying him the Levis and

the plaid button up shirt and the hiking boots (as someone else said),

" get's him in the door " , then within minutes he has everyone in love with

him anyway, then we have done our job=) and he has done his...heehee.

(Oh..and by the way, the shirt and hiking boots were both purchased at

Target...my favorite store) But I think most were talking about the WAY

they look and not necessarily WHAT they are wearing...

Kym...mom to 4, including 4 year old with DS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way

I

do!!!

(who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

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[Guest guest]

,

I have two thoughts about this whole issue. I don't usually buy my kids

all of the " label " clothing...we simply can't afford it and as my kids

are getting older, I am seeing the kids who only wear the labels getting

more judgmental towards the kids that don't. So, I can understand your

point about the name brands. Although, if I am out at a garage sale or

see a good sale, I do purchase name brand things and last month I

splurged and bought some real Levis (size 3T) and they fit him so

cute, I ran back and bought another pair for him even though it was only

just an 'okay' sale!

My other comment is that my husband and I made the same pledge to

eachother as many of the other folks on this subject, that we would make

sure that he would never get teased because of his clothing. We always

make sure that he has his hair cut cute ( I cut my other boys hair, but

not 's. I want his to be perfect...my other sons can use gel and

stuff to make theirs look cute, with he needs a better cut and has

thinner hair so it is harder to make it stay cute), combed, a clean face

(which can be VERY hard to keep when you are a 4yr old boy! heehee) and

nice, stylish clean clothes. This is, of course, the same thing we did

for our other children, but we put in more hours of keeping him looking

nice (partly because he spends more time getting dirty and undoing

everything we do...we are CONSTANTLY tucking the shirt in, wiping the

face, retying the shoe laces, putting the shirt and pants back on,

combing the hair, changing the dirty shirt, putting the shoes on AGAIN,

wiping the nose, etc. My other kids did more of that on their own and

didn't seem to get so dirty and undone. So, if buying him the Levis and

the plaid button up shirt and the hiking boots (as someone else said),

" get's him in the door " , then within minutes he has everyone in love with

him anyway, then we have done our job=) and he has done his...heehee.

(Oh..and by the way, the shirt and hiking boots were both purchased at

Target...my favorite store) But I think most were talking about the WAY

they look and not necessarily WHAT they are wearing...

Kym...mom to 4, including 4 year old with DS

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way

I

do!!!

(who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

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Hi there everyone,

I guess I'll add my opionion on this convo.

I do buy almost all name brand clothing. In my opionion it really does help

Kendra to fit it with the crowd much better. I have had many children

comment on Kendra's clothing and in my opionion it sure does make me feel

good.

Sherry (mom to the columbia, hillfiger, gap etc...)

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From: <lauralk38@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: P.S. on Clothes for Kids with Ds

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there everyone,

I guess I'll add my opionion on this convo.

I do buy almost all name brand clothing. In my opionion it really does help

Kendra to fit it with the crowd much better. I have had many children

comment on Kendra's clothing and in my opionion it sure does make me feel

good.

Sherry (mom to the columbia, hillfiger, gap etc...)

l Message -----

From: <lauralk38@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: P.S. on Clothes for Kids with Ds

> (laughing) Well, I read through everyone else's posts and it looks like,

> once again, I'm on the " wrong " (other?) side of this issue than everyone

> else!!! I never realized that I think so differently from the " DS

> mainstream " on so many things..... I'm hoping that somewhere out there

on

> this listserv of 450 people there are a lot of lurkers that feel the way I

> do!!!

>

> (who doesn't REALLY care if anyone else agrees with her......but is

> trying very hard to get you all to laugh)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK,

Here's my take on all this. I love for my kids to look good and i cant

afford to dress them in name brands like nike and the gap. I am a good

shopper for their clothes and buy lots of stuff going out of season sometimes

at the gap for really low pices.

Also, while the kids are growing leaps and bounds, I refuse to buy them

really expensive things that they will out grow within a few months.

They get a good pair of sneakers each, then the filler ins from payless or

wherever. I buy what i like. if i see something i love in walmart or k mart

(or some low priced local stores here, since I dont have walmart here,) then

I get it. I like Old Navy because they fit well and are similiar to the Gap

in style but very affordable. Last year for xmas, my dh worked in old navy

and with his discount, my kids had lots of clothes.

Also my son (non ds) needs a little extra room around the waist. Lands End

has a boys husky and elastic in the waist for the dress pants like kahakis.

They wear great and are not much more expensive than other places. JC penney

and sears also has a boys husky and a girls plus ( but amanda doesnt need

plus size any more yeah yeah yeah!!!!)

Hey I just bought my son who refuses to wear anything but jeans and t-

shirts, some nice plaid button downs for $6.99. I'll sneak one of those on

him xmas eve!

~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY

[Guest guest]

OK,

Here's my take on all this. I love for my kids to look good and i cant

afford to dress them in name brands like nike and the gap. I am a good

shopper for their clothes and buy lots of stuff going out of season sometimes

at the gap for really low pices.

Also, while the kids are growing leaps and bounds, I refuse to buy them

really expensive things that they will out grow within a few months.

They get a good pair of sneakers each, then the filler ins from payless or

wherever. I buy what i like. if i see something i love in walmart or k mart

(or some low priced local stores here, since I dont have walmart here,) then

I get it. I like Old Navy because they fit well and are similiar to the Gap

in style but very affordable. Last year for xmas, my dh worked in old navy

and with his discount, my kids had lots of clothes.

Also my son (non ds) needs a little extra room around the waist. Lands End

has a boys husky and elastic in the waist for the dress pants like kahakis.

They wear great and are not much more expensive than other places. JC penney

and sears also has a boys husky and a girls plus ( but amanda doesnt need

plus size any more yeah yeah yeah!!!!)

Hey I just bought my son who refuses to wear anything but jeans and t-

shirts, some nice plaid button downs for $6.99. I'll sneak one of those on

him xmas eve!

~ Mom to 11 DS and 7 NY

[Guest guest]

I could solve this whole problem of label buying.......COME TO READING,

PA!!!!!

OUTLETS, OUTLETS, OUTLETS!!!!! All the brand names for LESS! You are losing

money by not taking the trip to Reading. It would be well worth a one day

trip. My kids wear all the labels at a 1/3 of the cost. No one knows the

difference but me. I NEVER buy clothes at the Gap or any other mall store,

except if they're on the clearance rack, and believe me I always find

something cheap but cool for the Botch Boys! Unfortunately there is no

avoiding the label thing once they hit middle school. My kids do not obsess

over this but I want , especially, to look the same as the others his

age.......I don't care what anyone says......this does matter to teenagers.

Appearance is everything at that age.

I wish I could put you all up at my home in Reading to accomodate for this!

My husband and I are true bargain hunters and we love our outlets!

Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 7 (who wants to dress like

his older brothers)

[Guest guest]

I could solve this whole problem of label buying.......COME TO READING,

PA!!!!!

OUTLETS, OUTLETS, OUTLETS!!!!! All the brand names for LESS! You are losing

money by not taking the trip to Reading. It would be well worth a one day

trip. My kids wear all the labels at a 1/3 of the cost. No one knows the

difference but me. I NEVER buy clothes at the Gap or any other mall store,

except if they're on the clearance rack, and believe me I always find

something cheap but cool for the Botch Boys! Unfortunately there is no

avoiding the label thing once they hit middle school. My kids do not obsess

over this but I want , especially, to look the same as the others his

age.......I don't care what anyone says......this does matter to teenagers.

Appearance is everything at that age.

I wish I could put you all up at my home in Reading to accomodate for this!

My husband and I are true bargain hunters and we love our outlets!

Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 7 (who wants to dress like

his older brothers)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 10:06:01 PM Canada Central Standard Time,

jbocci55@... writes:

> I wish I could put you all up at my home in Reading to accomodate for this!

>

> My husband and I are true bargain hunters and we love our outlets!

>

> Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 7 (who wants to dress like

> his older brothers

Hi JAckie,

I've never really found a outlet store that I reallyfelt was marking the

stuff down. And there are a few up by the cities. I think in some ways I'm

really a tightwad. hehe But then again it's quite possible that they really

don't mark them down much around here. (and that would be my observation if

comparing the same thing in an outlet store and a retail store, my kids who

do mall shopping...mostly window, lol agree the outlets aren't that big of a

deal)

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 10:06:01 PM Canada Central Standard Time,

jbocci55@... writes:

> I wish I could put you all up at my home in Reading to accomodate for this!

>

> My husband and I are true bargain hunters and we love our outlets!

>

> Jackie, Mom to 14ds, 11, and Bradley 7 (who wants to dress like

> his older brothers

Hi JAckie,

I've never really found a outlet store that I reallyfelt was marking the

stuff down. And there are a few up by the cities. I think in some ways I'm

really a tightwad. hehe But then again it's quite possible that they really

don't mark them down much around here. (and that would be my observation if

comparing the same thing in an outlet store and a retail store, my kids who

do mall shopping...mostly window, lol agree the outlets aren't that big of a

deal)

Joy

[Guest guest]

.. We always

> make sure that he has his hair cut cute ( I cut my other boys hair, but

> not 's. I want his to be perfect...my other sons can use gel and

> stuff to make theirs look cute, with he needs a better cut and has

> thinner hair so it is harder to make it stay cute),

I forgot to mention that when I first met Kingsley online.. was

probably 5-6 months old...she told me that how we dressed our kids was so

important and to always remember that. I haven't forgotten. I was

determined not to dress him in pastels when he was a baby, too---only bright

primary colors for my boy

Now about TJ....he wanted to start his own trend this school year and wear

nothing but white T-shirts with nothing printed on them. This lasted a few

months and thank goodness he is back wearing his plaid shirts. Boys are

easier than girls when it comes to clothes.

About the haircut...I really messed up with 8 weeks ago. TJ bought

clippers and had me do his hair (#2 all over). Then he told me to do

's the same way. I used a #6, but with his cow licks all over his

head, I really butchered the job. I feel so bad and very embarrassed. In

about a month, I can take him back to his hairstylist and get it trimmed

nicely. This was definitely one of my bad parent moments. LOL!!!

[Guest guest]

.. We always

> make sure that he has his hair cut cute ( I cut my other boys hair, but

> not 's. I want his to be perfect...my other sons can use gel and

> stuff to make theirs look cute, with he needs a better cut and has

> thinner hair so it is harder to make it stay cute),

I forgot to mention that when I first met Kingsley online.. was

probably 5-6 months old...she told me that how we dressed our kids was so

important and to always remember that. I haven't forgotten. I was

determined not to dress him in pastels when he was a baby, too---only bright

primary colors for my boy

Now about TJ....he wanted to start his own trend this school year and wear

nothing but white T-shirts with nothing printed on them. This lasted a few

months and thank goodness he is back wearing his plaid shirts. Boys are

easier than girls when it comes to clothes.

About the haircut...I really messed up with 8 weeks ago. TJ bought

clippers and had me do his hair (#2 all over). Then he told me to do

's the same way. I used a #6, but with his cow licks all over his

head, I really butchered the job. I feel so bad and very embarrassed. In

about a month, I can take him back to his hairstylist and get it trimmed

nicely. This was definitely one of my bad parent moments. LOL!!!

[Guest guest]

Isn't is amazing how some kids, not particularly with DS, can stand in

the middle of a clean room and get dirty? I've known a few like that and can

never figure it out. They must be magnetic or something. Jessie

[Guest guest]

Isn't is amazing how some kids, not particularly with DS, can stand in

the middle of a clean room and get dirty? I've known a few like that and can

never figure it out. They must be magnetic or something. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 7:19:13 PM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> About the haircut...I really messed up with 8 weeks ago. TJ bought

> clippers and had me do his hair (#2 all over). Then he told me to do

> 's the same way. I used a #6, but with his cow licks all over his

> head, I really butchered the job. I feel so bad and very embarrassed. In

> about a month, I can take him back to his hairstylist and get it trimmed

> nicely. This was definitely one of my bad parent moments. LOL!!!

>

I cut my own hair most of the time, just because I decide it needs

cutting when I don't have time to go get it done. Gets a bit ragged in back

sometimes. Well, a few months ago I decided I HAD to get it done, and the

next Sunday in church a gal said to me, " Oh, you got a REAL haircut!! " . So I

decided maybe I'd better stick with the real ones. I have always cut

's and he doesn't want anyone else to do it. But I can see what I'm

doing on his. I messed up my daughter's bangs once when she was little and

people thought she did it herself so let them think so. Good out.

Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/01 7:19:13 PM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> About the haircut...I really messed up with 8 weeks ago. TJ bought

> clippers and had me do his hair (#2 all over). Then he told me to do

> 's the same way. I used a #6, but with his cow licks all over his

> head, I really butchered the job. I feel so bad and very embarrassed. In

> about a month, I can take him back to his hairstylist and get it trimmed

> nicely. This was definitely one of my bad parent moments. LOL!!!

>

I cut my own hair most of the time, just because I decide it needs

cutting when I don't have time to go get it done. Gets a bit ragged in back

sometimes. Well, a few months ago I decided I HAD to get it done, and the

next Sunday in church a gal said to me, " Oh, you got a REAL haircut!! " . So I

decided maybe I'd better stick with the real ones. I have always cut

's and he doesn't want anyone else to do it. But I can see what I'm

doing on his. I messed up my daughter's bangs once when she was little and

people thought she did it herself so let them think so. Good out.

Jessie

[Guest guest]

My husband is one of two boys, no girls. is 10, and he still is

amazed that girls get dirty. He thinks they should be neatly dressed and

play tea party all the time. You should have seen his face last week when

and had been playing " monster mountain " with the kids next door

on a pile of red clay. It took him several days to get over that - lol!

Sharon

Mom to (10, DS) and (6) - both of whom do not like hair bows,

ribbons, barrettes or headbands, and we have a drawer full.....

Re: P.S. on Clothes for Kids with Ds

Isn't is amazing how some kids, not particularly with DS, can stand

in

the middle of a clean room and get dirty? I've known a few like that and

can

never figure it out. They must be magnetic or something. Jessie

[