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We gave peace a chance in each of the cases I put out there. We gave peace a

chance by not going in and blowing them all to kingdom come when they did

each unspeakable terroristic attack. If I had my way, we would have

disintegrated them years ago, and if I have to go back to active duty to

secure our freedom as well as the freedom of our children, I will. I fear

death in combat, but not near as much as I fear something happening to my

children, who have nothing to do with this. Much like the children on the

planes that crashed, or the innocents in the buildings.

You know, it's my personal belief that we have turned the other cheek so many

times, our eyes are swollen shut from being slapped. We need to clear our

eyes out and stand proud and tall again...

Beth

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We gave peace a chance in each of the cases I put out there. We gave peace a

chance by not going in and blowing them all to kingdom come when they did

each unspeakable terroristic attack. If I had my way, we would have

disintegrated them years ago, and if I have to go back to active duty to

secure our freedom as well as the freedom of our children, I will. I fear

death in combat, but not near as much as I fear something happening to my

children, who have nothing to do with this. Much like the children on the

planes that crashed, or the innocents in the buildings.

You know, it's my personal belief that we have turned the other cheek so many

times, our eyes are swollen shut from being slapped. We need to clear our

eyes out and stand proud and tall again...

Beth

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Unfortunately past administrations have taken so much power from our

Intelligence dept's that they are unable to effectively do their jobs.

I agree that more funds need to go to beefing up our intelligence but they

also need more power take the necessary steps to obliterate these animals.

Also, more has to be done about the US " open door " policy. I know that many

will disagree with me but times have changed so much that we need to heavily

restrict those wishing to enter our great country. These terrorists got their

education and training here and to me that is the most sickening thing I can

imagine.

As far as diverting funds from NYC all you need to do is go downtown and

you will rethink that statement. This has hit so close to home for our

family that I cannot think of a better way to spend the taxpayers money.

I know that all America has been hit hard but you can not imagine the

effect it has on us so close to ground zero

Bonnie from Long Island

Mom to -11, twins and (ds)-3

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Unfortunately past administrations have taken so much power from our

Intelligence dept's that they are unable to effectively do their jobs.

I agree that more funds need to go to beefing up our intelligence but they

also need more power take the necessary steps to obliterate these animals.

Also, more has to be done about the US " open door " policy. I know that many

will disagree with me but times have changed so much that we need to heavily

restrict those wishing to enter our great country. These terrorists got their

education and training here and to me that is the most sickening thing I can

imagine.

As far as diverting funds from NYC all you need to do is go downtown and

you will rethink that statement. This has hit so close to home for our

family that I cannot think of a better way to spend the taxpayers money.

I know that all America has been hit hard but you can not imagine the

effect it has on us so close to ground zero

Bonnie from Long Island

Mom to -11, twins and (ds)-3

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Jackie,

If you saw NYC, the financial district of the world, the entertainment

district of the world, you wouldnt feel so badly about giving us money to re-

build. I am sure the govt is getting money to beef up " intelligence " .

~ barely surviving in Brooklyn, NY

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Jackie,

If you saw NYC, the financial district of the world, the entertainment

district of the world, you wouldnt feel so badly about giving us money to re-

build. I am sure the govt is getting money to beef up " intelligence " .

~ barely surviving in Brooklyn, NY

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, I never said NYC shouldn't get the money!!!!!!! I'm offended to think

you thought that! What kind of a person do you think I am? Geeze! What I

said was it's a shame that the money wasn't used BEFORE this crisis to

prevent it.

Jackie

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, I never said NYC shouldn't get the money!!!!!!! I'm offended to think

you thought that! What kind of a person do you think I am? Geeze! What I

said was it's a shame that the money wasn't used BEFORE this crisis to

prevent it.

Jackie

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I am resending my post from this morning so that no one on this list thinks I

felt bad that NYC was getting money to rebuild. I clearly stated that the

money should have been used BEFORE this tragedy, not denied to NYC now.

Please reread it, .

Thanks, Jackie

Here it is:

I think the trouble here is that we cannot find " them " in one particular

country. So what do we do? Obliterate many, many innocent people because

these idiots are " possibly " in their country? I think justice, in this case,

is going to be very, very difficult to administer. It would be so much

easier if these terrorist cells weren't scattered all over the world.

Maybe the US govt should have considered putting the millions of dollars they

are giving NYC to clean up this tragedy into beefing up intelligence and

thwarting these jerks from entering OUR country, OUR flight schools, and OUR

lives before something like this happened.

I feel so much anger about what has been done to us, but more so because I

feel frustrated that there is no possible way to easily punish those who are

responsible. These terrorists are everywhere, and we can't bomb everywhere.

Jackie

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I am resending my post from this morning so that no one on this list thinks I

felt bad that NYC was getting money to rebuild. I clearly stated that the

money should have been used BEFORE this tragedy, not denied to NYC now.

Please reread it, .

Thanks, Jackie

Here it is:

I think the trouble here is that we cannot find " them " in one particular

country. So what do we do? Obliterate many, many innocent people because

these idiots are " possibly " in their country? I think justice, in this case,

is going to be very, very difficult to administer. It would be so much

easier if these terrorist cells weren't scattered all over the world.

Maybe the US govt should have considered putting the millions of dollars they

are giving NYC to clean up this tragedy into beefing up intelligence and

thwarting these jerks from entering OUR country, OUR flight schools, and OUR

lives before something like this happened.

I feel so much anger about what has been done to us, but more so because I

feel frustrated that there is no possible way to easily punish those who are

responsible. These terrorists are everywhere, and we can't bomb everywhere.

Jackie

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Everyone talks about " intelligence " and " human intelligence " and it

seems to me we have seen very little of that in quite a few years in our

leaders. Where is it going to come from now? In fact I told

recently that humans are the stupidest creatures on Earth. I think it was

just proved.

Jessie

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Everyone talks about " intelligence " and " human intelligence " and it

seems to me we have seen very little of that in quite a few years in our

leaders. Where is it going to come from now? In fact I told

recently that humans are the stupidest creatures on Earth. I think it was

just proved.

Jessie

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I really feel the war on terrorism should not be the traditional war so many

think of now and what we may be involved in so soon. I believe our

intelligence agencies need free hands to pursue the criminals and I am

willing to give up some personal liberties I now have to allow this. I

believe political and financial sanctions should be made on the countries

harboring the terrorists. That may mean sacrifice on our part as some of the

things we are used to having become harder to receive. We should be trying to

find a way to cut off funding for these terrorists. I believe we need to

tighten up our immigration laws and keep better track of people in this

country who are not citizens. We must protect our citizens before we protect

the liberties of non-citizens, IMO. Traditional war, bombs and tanks will not

solve this problem.

Cheryl in VA

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I really feel the war on terrorism should not be the traditional war so many

think of now and what we may be involved in so soon. I believe our

intelligence agencies need free hands to pursue the criminals and I am

willing to give up some personal liberties I now have to allow this. I

believe political and financial sanctions should be made on the countries

harboring the terrorists. That may mean sacrifice on our part as some of the

things we are used to having become harder to receive. We should be trying to

find a way to cut off funding for these terrorists. I believe we need to

tighten up our immigration laws and keep better track of people in this

country who are not citizens. We must protect our citizens before we protect

the liberties of non-citizens, IMO. Traditional war, bombs and tanks will not

solve this problem.

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 09/19/2001 11:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< but the group responsible will do it again if nothing is done

to stop them. >>

I am astounded what I have learned about the pure hate they preach and the

organized effort they have made to kill as many Americans as possible, as

well as teach followers it is their duty to kill as many Americans as

possible. There is no regard for children or civilians and that is made

perfectly clear from the interviews. One author being interviewed was asked

what Americans could to to make Bin Laden happy and he said, " move to another

planet. "

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 09/19/2001 11:16:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

<< but the group responsible will do it again if nothing is done

to stop them. >>

I am astounded what I have learned about the pure hate they preach and the

organized effort they have made to kill as many Americans as possible, as

well as teach followers it is their duty to kill as many Americans as

possible. There is no regard for children or civilians and that is made

perfectly clear from the interviews. One author being interviewed was asked

what Americans could to to make Bin Laden happy and he said, " move to another

planet. "

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 9/19/01 10:17:37 AM Central Daylight Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

> A family on one of the planes included the 2 and 4 year old daughters

> and 3 elementary students were on another plane.

>

> I wouldn't agree that there should be any indiscriminate or reckless use

> of power, but the group responsible will do it again if nothing is done

> to stop them. The Pentagon daycare isn't in the building, but it's

> nearby--what if that had been hit?

>

> We got babies too.

>

> Judi

HI Judi :)

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! if scenes of the dead is what you want to see, stick

around...I'm sure there will be tons of web sites to show " our " dead soon.

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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In a message dated 9/19/01 10:17:37 AM Central Daylight Time,

lowenthalrj@... writes:

> A family on one of the planes included the 2 and 4 year old daughters

> and 3 elementary students were on another plane.

>

> I wouldn't agree that there should be any indiscriminate or reckless use

> of power, but the group responsible will do it again if nothing is done

> to stop them. The Pentagon daycare isn't in the building, but it's

> nearby--what if that had been hit?

>

> We got babies too.

>

> Judi

HI Judi :)

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! if scenes of the dead is what you want to see, stick

around...I'm sure there will be tons of web sites to show " our " dead soon.

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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> I agree with you Bonnie about restricting immigrants. times have

changed, we can no longer allow every single person into the country.

>

> I am also sickened by the fact that they used our schools,

airplanes and any other American means in their act of terrorism.

That is just a slap in the face to all Americans.

>

Arent we forgetting something? Are we a bit short of memory?

As far as I know the Oklahoma Bomber wasn't an immigrant. Terrorism

and fanatic people arent disguised as arabs or any other race. The

only resemblance they have is willing to die for their believes.

And they will use anything and anyone they can to get there moment of

glory. There only goal is destroying the symbols of freedom.

Rob

Imagine there's no countries

It isn't hard to do

Nothing to kill or die for

And no religion too

Imagine all the people

Living life in peace...

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> I agree with you Bonnie about restricting immigrants. times have

changed, we can no longer allow every single person into the country.

>

> I am also sickened by the fact that they used our schools,

airplanes and any other American means in their act of terrorism.

That is just a slap in the face to all Americans.

>

Arent we forgetting something? Are we a bit short of memory?

As far as I know the Oklahoma Bomber wasn't an immigrant. Terrorism

and fanatic people arent disguised as arabs or any other race. The

only resemblance they have is willing to die for their believes.

And they will use anything and anyone they can to get there moment of

glory. There only goal is destroying the symbols of freedom.

Rob

Imagine there's no countries

It isn't hard to do

Nothing to kill or die for

And no religion too

Imagine all the people

Living life in peace...

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Rob, Nope, I'm afraid the Oklahoma bombers didn't intend to die for their

incredibly ignorant beliefs. That are not quite as fanatical as the

perpetrators of this heinous act. They lived to be executed. You must

remember that Bonnie lives there and sees the devastation day after day.

They flew planes into her home town!!! They killed friends and neighbors.

How would you feel if it were Amsterdam? I think being careful about who we

allow into our country would be a great short term solution.

Elaine

Re: Notes from an aging hippie

>

> > I agree with you Bonnie about restricting immigrants. times have

> changed, we can no longer allow every single person into the country.

> >

> > I am also sickened by the fact that they used our schools,

> airplanes and any other American means in their act of terrorism.

> That is just a slap in the face to all Americans.

> >

>

> Arent we forgetting something? Are we a bit short of memory?

> As far as I know the Oklahoma Bomber wasn't an immigrant. Terrorism

> and fanatic people arent disguised as arabs or any other race. The

> only resemblance they have is willing to die for their believes.

> And they will use anything and anyone they can to get there moment of

> glory. There only goal is destroying the symbols of freedom.

>

> Rob

>

>

> Imagine there's no countries

> It isn't hard to do

> Nothing to kill or die for

> And no religion too

> Imagine all the people

> Living life in peace...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

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Rob, Nope, I'm afraid the Oklahoma bombers didn't intend to die for their

incredibly ignorant beliefs. That are not quite as fanatical as the

perpetrators of this heinous act. They lived to be executed. You must

remember that Bonnie lives there and sees the devastation day after day.

They flew planes into her home town!!! They killed friends and neighbors.

How would you feel if it were Amsterdam? I think being careful about who we

allow into our country would be a great short term solution.

Elaine

Re: Notes from an aging hippie

>

> > I agree with you Bonnie about restricting immigrants. times have

> changed, we can no longer allow every single person into the country.

> >

> > I am also sickened by the fact that they used our schools,

> airplanes and any other American means in their act of terrorism.

> That is just a slap in the face to all Americans.

> >

>

> Arent we forgetting something? Are we a bit short of memory?

> As far as I know the Oklahoma Bomber wasn't an immigrant. Terrorism

> and fanatic people arent disguised as arabs or any other race. The

> only resemblance they have is willing to die for their believes.

> And they will use anything and anyone they can to get there moment of

> glory. There only goal is destroying the symbols of freedom.

>

> Rob

>

>

> Imagine there's no countries

> It isn't hard to do

> Nothing to kill or die for

> And no religion too

> Imagine all the people

> Living life in peace...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

>

>

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