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I live in Woodridge and has attended the YMCA teen camp (Indian

Boundary)the since 7th grade ( he attended Woodridge park district prior to

that). They have extended us the offer for him to attend last summer and this

summer which is beyond their age limit(he'll be 18 next month). They told me

that they love having him and it's been a godsend, he loves it and they love

having him. I would be willing to pay for him forever if they'll let him come

and the whole Junior Counselor thing is what my goal is. He loves reading

stories to the younger kids, okay he loves reading the Tank Engine

stories to the younger campers :-) and that is part of his day since he gets

there at 7:45 before the main part of the daily activities begin.

I would fight this . May I ask where you live? Do they realize what a

horrible thing they are doing??

H.

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After many, many years of providing summer camp to children age 3 - 17 our park

istrict has decided to change the age range to 14. I was told many years ago

hat my children would be able to attend until age 21 due to the fact that our

pecial Recreation provided them with a one on one aide so they could be

ncluded in our park district. It was a fabulous collaboration between our Park

nd Special Rec.

called our Superintendent and he stated that since there was a lack of

nterest in the teens in our area that the decision was made to cut the age of

t 14. I asked him if I could pay for our daughter to attend and volunteer to

ork. She was looking forward to becoming a Jr. Camp Councelor and working with

he younger children. I tried to explain to him the heartbreak he was causing

o many teens with disabilities who enjoyed attending because for once they felt

part of their community. They belonged. He was sorry but there was nothing

e could do about it. I also explained that due to his decision one parent

ould now have to stay home during the summer and quit work. This decision had

n impact on the entire family. He wasn't budging about this decision.

did tell him that I would be bringing my daughter in to see him so he could

xplain his decision to her.

Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

d information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

nce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

d have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

r cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

at were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

re important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

o are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ntribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nnedy Shriver

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We live in Bewryn.  We actually moved to LaGrange Park at one time, and moved

back because we missed the Berwyn Park District and WSSRA.  Isn't that sad an

ironic. 

 

I am thinking about taking this to our local newspaper.  Believe me, I am very

angry and hurt. 

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

 

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

d information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

nce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

d have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

r cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

at were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

re important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

o are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ntribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nnedy Shriver

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We live in Bewryn.  We actually moved to LaGrange Park at one time, and moved

back because we missed the Berwyn Park District and WSSRA.  Isn't that sad an

ironic. 

 

I am thinking about taking this to our local newspaper.  Believe me, I am very

angry and hurt. 

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

 

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

d information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

nce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

d have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

r cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

at were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

re important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

o are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ntribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nnedy Shriver

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My son was able to attend the park district as being a Junior Leader while in

high school, only I still had to pay but on the books they could justify it as

he was a junior leader.

Shirley

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

d information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

nce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

d have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

r cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

at were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

re important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

o are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ntribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nnedy Shriver

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My son was able to attend the park district as being a Junior Leader while in

high school, only I still had to pay but on the books they could justify it as

he was a junior leader.

Shirley

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

d information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

nce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

d have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

r cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

at were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

re important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

o are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ntribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nnedy Shriver

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I lived there for 13 years from 1982-1995, was born in MacNeal, I guess I'm

glad I moved but I would definitely take it to the news!

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We live in Bewryn. We actually moved to LaGrange Park at one time, and moved

ack because we missed the Berwyn Park District and WSSRA. Isn't that sad an

ronic.

am thinking about taking this to our local newspaper. Believe me, I am very

ngry and hurt.

Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

e were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

e constantly bothered about joing a union.

s far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ter Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

t were placed with us. Never bothered me.

fter Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

e important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

s check and balance.

also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

ot occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

cky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

tribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nedy Shriver

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I lived there for 13 years from 1982-1995, was born in MacNeal, I guess I'm

glad I moved but I would definitely take it to the news!

Re: Re: What We're About

We live in Bewryn. We actually moved to LaGrange Park at one time, and moved

ack because we missed the Berwyn Park District and WSSRA. Isn't that sad an

ronic.

am thinking about taking this to our local newspaper. Believe me, I am very

ngry and hurt.

Bedard

icky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

e were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

e constantly bothered about joing a union.

s far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

ter Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ce. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

t were placed with us. Never bothered me.

fter Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

e important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

s check and balance.

also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

ot occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

athy Bedard

cky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

tribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

nedy Shriver

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Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

delivery.

In fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

Gateway with no success. 

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

delivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

flexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

around program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

-- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

can only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

told, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

delivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

on the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

Phone: 708 246 5151

Fax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

begins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

deprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

Rather, it is time to preach it from the

rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

National Meeting of Young Catholics of

Switzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

delivery.

In fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

Gateway with no success. 

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

delivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

flexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

around program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

-- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

can only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

told, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

delivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

on the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

Phone: 708 246 5151

Fax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

begins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

deprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

Rather, it is time to preach it from the

rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

National Meeting of Young Catholics of

Switzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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Too hard??? TOO HARD!???

It's time to hire administrators who are not deterred by their job being

hard. It's SUPPOSED

to be hard; that's why administrators are needed. If it were easy,

volunteers would do it.

Jean

muttering to herself

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:58 AM, GORDON STIEFEL <taggroup@...>wrote:

>

> ...

> When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as

> was told, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director,

> .

>

> She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

> delivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

>

> I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010

> options.

>

> Humbly grateful to be your companion

> on the journey...

>

> Gordon P. Stiefel

> Phone: 708 246 5151

> Fax: 708 246 9144

>

> " All great change in America

> begins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

>

> " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and

> the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel

> (cf. Rom 1: 16).

> Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

> National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of

> II

>

> .

>

>

>

> rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

>

> ubject: Re: What We're About

>

> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

>

> ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

>

> Dear ,

>

> I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

>

> ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and

> while I

>

> ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

>

> We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with

> the

>

> ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

>

> ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

>

> yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit

> much.

>

> nd yet, I do it.

>

> Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

> We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out

> names

>

> nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

>

>

> o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

>

> As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

>

> oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish

> bowl

>

> ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

>

>

> nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

>

>

> or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the

> children

>

> hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

>

> After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

>

> ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look

> at

>

> t as check and balance.

>

> I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved

> ones

>

> ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that

> abuse

>

> s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

>

> Bedard

>

> Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

>

> “Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have,

> can

>

> ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.” --Eunice

>

> ennedy Shriver

>

> Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

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Too hard??? TOO HARD!???

It's time to hire administrators who are not deterred by their job being

hard. It's SUPPOSED

to be hard; that's why administrators are needed. If it were easy,

volunteers would do it.

Jean

muttering to herself

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:58 AM, GORDON STIEFEL <taggroup@...>wrote:

>

> ...

> When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as

> was told, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director,

> .

>

> She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

> delivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

>

> I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010

> options.

>

> Humbly grateful to be your companion

> on the journey...

>

> Gordon P. Stiefel

> Phone: 708 246 5151

> Fax: 708 246 9144

>

> " All great change in America

> begins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

>

> " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and

> the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel

> (cf. Rom 1: 16).

> Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

> National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of

> II

>

> .

>

>

>

> rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

>

> ubject: Re: What We're About

>

> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

>

> ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

>

> Dear ,

>

> I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

>

> ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and

> while I

>

> ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

>

> We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with

> the

>

> ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

>

> ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

>

> yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit

> much.

>

> nd yet, I do it.

>

> Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

> We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out

> names

>

> nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

>

>

> o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

>

> As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

>

> oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish

> bowl

>

> ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

>

>

> nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

>

>

> or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the

> children

>

> hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

>

> After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

>

> ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look

> at

>

> t as check and balance.

>

> I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved

> ones

>

> ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that

> abuse

>

> s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

>

> Bedard

>

> Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

>

> “Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have,

> can

>

> ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.” --Eunice

>

> ennedy Shriver

>

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Some of the things I read from IPADDUnited has been political matters even if it

doesn't involved with Senators, House of Representative, and President.

For example, you can talk about the Union, I can see that their has been rivalry

that involved showing up at hearing because the civil liberty has been violated.

Talking non-politically isn't going to win a legal battle in a long run that has

enraged in the community relating to solving problem. If government or important

figure can't give an ear, you are nothing but being ignored.

You are your own lawyer, you practiced your personal laws to help your kids get

needs.

Lobbying is political because it carry agenda that influences important figure

and government.

:)

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're

a place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a

place to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our

local, state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved

ones. We want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children

and news of your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can

and it's great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter

what side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each

other that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days

at Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other

is exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

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Some of the things I read from IPADDUnited has been political matters even if it

doesn't involved with Senators, House of Representative, and President.

For example, you can talk about the Union, I can see that their has been rivalry

that involved showing up at hearing because the civil liberty has been violated.

Talking non-politically isn't going to win a legal battle in a long run that has

enraged in the community relating to solving problem. If government or important

figure can't give an ear, you are nothing but being ignored.

You are your own lawyer, you practiced your personal laws to help your kids get

needs.

Lobbying is political because it carry agenda that influences important figure

and government.

:)

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're

a place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a

place to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our

local, state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved

ones. We want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children

and news of your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can

and it's great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter

what side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each

other that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days

at Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other

is exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

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I just started signing up for Seaspar programs, Gordon. I've been very

pleased but I heard they are all taking cuts too. I guess this is when I'm

happy that I kept in inclusion programs with his peers.

H.

Re: Re: What We're About

Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

elivery.

n fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

ateway with no success.

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

elivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

lexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

round program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

an only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

old, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

elivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

n the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

hone: 708 246 5151

ax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

egins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

eprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

o be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

ather, it is time to preach it from the

ooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

ational Meeting of Young Catholics of

witzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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I just started signing up for Seaspar programs, Gordon. I've been very

pleased but I heard they are all taking cuts too. I guess this is when I'm

happy that I kept in inclusion programs with his peers.

H.

Re: Re: What We're About

Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

elivery.

n fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

ateway with no success.

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

elivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

lexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

round program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

an only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

old, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

elivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

n the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

hone: 708 246 5151

ax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

egins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

eprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

o be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

ather, it is time to preach it from the

ooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

ational Meeting of Young Catholics of

witzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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I was also going to start seaspar programs but found out there is not a one on

one and my daughter needs constants supervision in all areas so if they cant

provide that then I will not send her,  and as she reaches the adults programs,

the school tells me there is no more one on one so they are trying to wean her

away from one one assistants now but as I see it, she will always need that one

on one so where does she go when she gets in her 20:s and cant get the help she

needs?   I have seen some of the adults programs and some of them are very sad

and depressing to me and don't think I like any of them for her.  Safety is our

main concern for attending any of these programs and without that we as parents

do not feel comfortable sending our kids to them if we do not feel

comfortable. My daughter is vulnerable and unaware of any dangers so its

frightening sending her out her alone unless you really can trust the place you

are sending her too. 

________________________________

From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:19:35 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What We're About

 

I just started signing up for Seaspar programs, Gordon. I've been very

pleased but I heard they are all taking cuts too. I guess this is when I'm happy

that I kept in inclusion programs with his peers.

H.

Re: Re: What We're About

Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

elivery.

n fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

ateway with no success.

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

elivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

lexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

round program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

an only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

old, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

elivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

n the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

hone: 708 246 5151

ax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

egins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

eprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

o be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

ather, it is time to preach it from the

ooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

ational Meeting of Young Catholics of

witzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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I was also going to start seaspar programs but found out there is not a one on

one and my daughter needs constants supervision in all areas so if they cant

provide that then I will not send her,  and as she reaches the adults programs,

the school tells me there is no more one on one so they are trying to wean her

away from one one assistants now but as I see it, she will always need that one

on one so where does she go when she gets in her 20:s and cant get the help she

needs?   I have seen some of the adults programs and some of them are very sad

and depressing to me and don't think I like any of them for her.  Safety is our

main concern for attending any of these programs and without that we as parents

do not feel comfortable sending our kids to them if we do not feel

comfortable. My daughter is vulnerable and unaware of any dangers so its

frightening sending her out her alone unless you really can trust the place you

are sending her too. 

________________________________

From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:19:35 AM

Subject: Re: Re: What We're About

 

I just started signing up for Seaspar programs, Gordon. I've been very

pleased but I heard they are all taking cuts too. I guess this is when I'm happy

that I kept in inclusion programs with his peers.

H.

Re: Re: What We're About

Our local special ed coop, SEASPAR, does not rank high in my opinion of service

elivery.

n fact, we have encouraged our Park District to leave SEASPAR and move to

ateway with no success.

For years, our daughter, Pamela, has attended GREAT summer camp programs

elivered by Gateway.

We just reviewed this year's program offerings for summer camp. OUCH. The

lexibility and creativity in summer camp programming has vanished. The wrap

round program with our local high school program to make a full day experience

- GONE! Its now buy 8 weeks, or choose the first half or second half but you

an only buy 4 week sessions.

When I called I thought I would hear it was a demand issue just as was

old, I was more stunned at the response of the new program director, .

She essentially said the wrap around program and previous method of service

elivery was just too hard to manage and hire staff to deliver. :(

I have a call into the new superintendent to discuss and explore 2010 options.

Humbly grateful to be your companion

n the journey...

Gordon P. Stiefel

hone: 708 246 5151

ax: 708 246 9144

" All great change in America

egins at the dinner table " , Reagan.

" Now more than ever, in a world all too often

eprived of light and

the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time

o be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16).

ather, it is time to preach it from the

ooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! "

ational Meeting of Young Catholics of

witzerland (2004), Address of II

..

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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We lived in Berwyn while my husband was a resident---from 1985 to 1991. My Mom

grew up there and I have many fond memories. If you've seen my husband's book,

" is Extra-Special.... " the picture where he's swinging is in Proska Park

and the swimming pictures were of him at a WSSRA program.

Anyway, I would take it to the local paper---is it still the " Berwyn Life " ?

That's really crummy.

Marie

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We lived in Berwyn while my husband was a resident---from 1985 to 1991. My Mom

grew up there and I have many fond memories. If you've seen my husband's book,

" is Extra-Special.... " the picture where he's swinging is in Proska Park

and the swimming pictures were of him at a WSSRA program.

Anyway, I would take it to the local paper---is it still the " Berwyn Life " ?

That's really crummy.

Marie

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I would suggest you call Gateway and see what they can provide.  You would have

to pay out of district price but it may be worth it if they meet your needs.

Shirley

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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I would suggest you call Gateway and see what they can provide.  You would have

to pay out of district price but it may be worth it if they meet your needs.

Shirley

rom: teteme55 <tetemeameritech (DOT) net>

ubject: Re: What We're About

o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

ate: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 10:57 PM

Dear ,

I would also agree about a system of checks and balances but.....my son,

ussell, is 30 years old and I am just plain tired of it. I am tired and while I

ppreciate the whole concept of it, I am just tired.

We get burned out and numb and......I use to have a set of Post-Its with the

ollowing printed on it, " Crisis Du Jour " and I would use them, quite

ften......some times, reading the paper or watching the news, I think to

yself, " now what, what hoops will I have to jump through? " It gets a bit much.

nd yet, I do it.

Anyway, that's my reason for not liking it.

Marie

We were lucky, our name was picked for HBSSP after our Governor gave out names

nd information to Union organizers. I'm sure that it would have bothered me

o be constantly bothered about joing a union.

As far as privacy goes; doesn't bother me at all. My husband and I were

oster Parents for over 15 years. We have lived in the perverbial goldfish bowl

ince. I have had to have my home checked, nurses visit and be fingerprinted

nd have background checks etc. Literally, the State would come in and check

or cleanliness, measurements, food, and of course the safety of the children

hat were placed with us. Never bothered me.

After Ricky was born it just continued. I feel that having the services is

ore important than my privacy. I can see how it may bother some, but I look at

t as check and balance.

I also find it comforting to know that someone is checking on our loved ones

ho are unable to speak for themselves. Someone needs to make sure that abuse

s not occuring. I guess that is a carryover of my Parent days.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

ontribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

ennedy Shriver

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OH PAM!!!! I so am with you!!!!! The visits from people 'overseeing' how we

the parents are applying the funds/assistance, whatever! I too have thought

many, many times, is it all worth it??? For years I never applied for SSI for

my son because I felt he was my son, and my responsibility and as a single

parent it has been very difficult. We are lucky that my son has access to a

small 'special needs' trust when needed but that has so many hoops and

ifs/ands/buts that many times you have to be a lawyer to understand it, and even

our attorney MANY times says, 'I dont know, try it'.

When was turning 18 because I was so tired of hearing people tell me

that we 'should' seek help for things I applied for the SSI, he was rejected the

first time, I took it all the way to the court level and FINALLY WON! A victory

for , finally! Then a friend told me about one program that led to

another and now we are in the Home Based program that allows us to have more

support for in the community. Since being in this program I am amazed

at how many people have to check out and check in with us, the process of

payment through Pennsylvania based ACES$ still mystifies me. Who over sees the

people that NEED to be looked into?? NOBODY! I hate to say it but the system

is not right, and that all goes back to politics, it is why it is sat up like it

is. is my son and I always have his needs first and foremost, many

times these other people dont know him from Adam, they dont know what he needs

or not and if anyone would misjudge his needs its more likely they will!

I feel we have enough to deal with in life, HE has enough to deal with in life,

why does everyone want a piece of running it?! What is wrong with this

picture??? They are supposed to be helping your young adults, seems to me they

are just taking control.

Just my thoughts!

Kathy, mother of

>

>

>

> Hi -

>

> Will you please then set some parameters or describe how discussions about

lobbying local, state and national law makers can occur without a discussion of

the issue ALL while remaining apolitical?

>

>

>

> How about this for apolitical discussion:

>

>

>

> Several months ago, I was shaken to learn that because my son Josh

participates in IL Home Based Support Services Program, the State and Federal

government have increased access to his privacy - that is, what is beyond the

protections provided to a citizen not participating in a Medicaid waiver

program.

>

>

>

>

> The State of Illinois gave my name and home address to union organizers. And

the reason they were able to do so was because I receive a check that comes from

the IL HBSSP program.

>

>

>

> This intrusion on my privacy motivated me to stand up and loudly protest what

I felt was the state of IL forcing me to join a union and pay money to a union

via dues or fair share. In turn, the union could use the money to exercise their

political muscle on policies that I may agree or disagree with.

>

>

>

> Again, I am shaken to learn that the State of Illinois can force us to drop

Josh from our private health insurance if he is to continue participating in the

IL HBSSP. I don’t know when or if this happen but this is a part of the new

healthcare reform law.

>

>

>

> I can’t help but to ask:

>

> Is it worth it? Is the small monetary support worth all of the heavy,

inflexible strings that it comes with? Is it worth giving up our privacy?

>

>

>

> I am tired of the quarterly visits and the review of our records. I am

wondering why Josh has to have an individualized service plan that identifies

life goals and documents his progress towards these goals. I don’t have an

individualized service plan. I don’t have to report monthly on my progress

made towards my life goals. People don't have to sit down at least once a year

and examine all aspects of my life - medical, social, familial and discuss it.

>

>

>

> Some days, I am shaken to realize what we give up because Josh participates in

a Medicaid waiver program.

>

>

>

> Thoughts?

> Pam

>

> What We're About

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're a

place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a place

to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our local,

state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved ones. We

want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children and news of

your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can and it's

great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter what

side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each other

that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days at

Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other is

exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

>

>

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OH PAM!!!! I so am with you!!!!! The visits from people 'overseeing' how we

the parents are applying the funds/assistance, whatever! I too have thought

many, many times, is it all worth it??? For years I never applied for SSI for

my son because I felt he was my son, and my responsibility and as a single

parent it has been very difficult. We are lucky that my son has access to a

small 'special needs' trust when needed but that has so many hoops and

ifs/ands/buts that many times you have to be a lawyer to understand it, and even

our attorney MANY times says, 'I dont know, try it'.

When was turning 18 because I was so tired of hearing people tell me

that we 'should' seek help for things I applied for the SSI, he was rejected the

first time, I took it all the way to the court level and FINALLY WON! A victory

for , finally! Then a friend told me about one program that led to

another and now we are in the Home Based program that allows us to have more

support for in the community. Since being in this program I am amazed

at how many people have to check out and check in with us, the process of

payment through Pennsylvania based ACES$ still mystifies me. Who over sees the

people that NEED to be looked into?? NOBODY! I hate to say it but the system

is not right, and that all goes back to politics, it is why it is sat up like it

is. is my son and I always have his needs first and foremost, many

times these other people dont know him from Adam, they dont know what he needs

or not and if anyone would misjudge his needs its more likely they will!

I feel we have enough to deal with in life, HE has enough to deal with in life,

why does everyone want a piece of running it?! What is wrong with this

picture??? They are supposed to be helping your young adults, seems to me they

are just taking control.

Just my thoughts!

Kathy, mother of

>

>

>

> Hi -

>

> Will you please then set some parameters or describe how discussions about

lobbying local, state and national law makers can occur without a discussion of

the issue ALL while remaining apolitical?

>

>

>

> How about this for apolitical discussion:

>

>

>

> Several months ago, I was shaken to learn that because my son Josh

participates in IL Home Based Support Services Program, the State and Federal

government have increased access to his privacy - that is, what is beyond the

protections provided to a citizen not participating in a Medicaid waiver

program.

>

>

>

>

> The State of Illinois gave my name and home address to union organizers. And

the reason they were able to do so was because I receive a check that comes from

the IL HBSSP program.

>

>

>

> This intrusion on my privacy motivated me to stand up and loudly protest what

I felt was the state of IL forcing me to join a union and pay money to a union

via dues or fair share. In turn, the union could use the money to exercise their

political muscle on policies that I may agree or disagree with.

>

>

>

> Again, I am shaken to learn that the State of Illinois can force us to drop

Josh from our private health insurance if he is to continue participating in the

IL HBSSP. I don’t know when or if this happen but this is a part of the new

healthcare reform law.

>

>

>

> I can’t help but to ask:

>

> Is it worth it? Is the small monetary support worth all of the heavy,

inflexible strings that it comes with? Is it worth giving up our privacy?

>

>

>

> I am tired of the quarterly visits and the review of our records. I am

wondering why Josh has to have an individualized service plan that identifies

life goals and documents his progress towards these goals. I don’t have an

individualized service plan. I don’t have to report monthly on my progress

made towards my life goals. People don't have to sit down at least once a year

and examine all aspects of my life - medical, social, familial and discuss it.

>

>

>

> Some days, I am shaken to realize what we give up because Josh participates in

a Medicaid waiver program.

>

>

>

> Thoughts?

> Pam

>

> What We're About

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're a

place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a place

to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our local,

state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved ones. We

want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children and news of

your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can and it's

great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter what

side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each other

that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days at

Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other is

exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Pam. So something you said leaves me wanting some clarification. It is in

regards to Josh receiving Il HBSSP. Are you stating that you will be required

to drop JOsh from your private insurance coverage OR HAVE TO CHOSE TO STOP

RECEIVING IL HOME BASED SERVICES? (Because it is a Medicaid waiver program? )

I knew that when they forced us to apply for Medicaid that we were gonna get

screwed some way some how. So we get punished for paying privately to get

private insurance (hence, most often BETTER health insurance coverage) than

Medicaid? So Sad.

Why can't we get the Home based service money MINUS THE MEDICAID. Quite frankly

I don't even use the medicaid coverage my son HAS TO RECEIVE AGAINST MY WISHES

THAT IS.....), because none of our current doctors or dentists take the damn

thing!

Pam, please clarify if I am wrong, or tell me that I have this right? Either

way I can stop the chest pain I am currently feeling, or will start getting

chest pains. Wow!

Diane S

>

>

>

> Hi -

>

> Will you please then set some parameters or describe how discussions about

lobbying local, state and national law makers can occur without a discussion of

the issue ALL while remaining apolitical?

>

>

>

> How about this for apolitical discussion:

>

>

>

> Several months ago, I was shaken to learn that because my son Josh

participates in IL Home Based Support Services Program, the State and Federal

government have increased access to his privacy - that is, what is beyond the

protections provided to a citizen not participating in a Medicaid waiver

program.

>

>

>

>

> The State of Illinois gave my name and home address to union organizers. And

the reason they were able to do so was because I receive a check that comes from

the IL HBSSP program.

>

>

>

> This intrusion on my privacy motivated me to stand up and loudly protest what

I felt was the state of IL forcing me to join a union and pay money to a union

via dues or fair share. In turn, the union could use the money to exercise their

political muscle on policies that I may agree or disagree with.

>

>

>

> Again, I am shaken to learn that the State of Illinois can force us to drop

Josh from our private health insurance if he is to continue participating in the

IL HBSSP. I don’t know when or if this happen but this is a part of the new

healthcare reform law.

>

>

>

> I can’t help but to ask:

>

> Is it worth it? Is the small monetary support worth all of the heavy,

inflexible strings that it comes with? Is it worth giving up our privacy?

>

>

>

> I am tired of the quarterly visits and the review of our records. I am

wondering why Josh has to have an individualized service plan that identifies

life goals and documents his progress towards these goals. I don’t have an

individualized service plan. I don’t have to report monthly on my progress

made towards my life goals. People don't have to sit down at least once a year

and examine all aspects of my life - medical, social, familial and discuss it.

>

>

>

> Some days, I am shaken to realize what we give up because Josh participates in

a Medicaid waiver program.

>

>

>

> Thoughts?

> Pam

>

> What We're About

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're a

place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a place

to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our local,

state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved ones. We

want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children and news of

your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can and it's

great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter what

side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each other

that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days at

Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other is

exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Pam. So something you said leaves me wanting some clarification. It is in

regards to Josh receiving Il HBSSP. Are you stating that you will be required

to drop JOsh from your private insurance coverage OR HAVE TO CHOSE TO STOP

RECEIVING IL HOME BASED SERVICES? (Because it is a Medicaid waiver program? )

I knew that when they forced us to apply for Medicaid that we were gonna get

screwed some way some how. So we get punished for paying privately to get

private insurance (hence, most often BETTER health insurance coverage) than

Medicaid? So Sad.

Why can't we get the Home based service money MINUS THE MEDICAID. Quite frankly

I don't even use the medicaid coverage my son HAS TO RECEIVE AGAINST MY WISHES

THAT IS.....), because none of our current doctors or dentists take the damn

thing!

Pam, please clarify if I am wrong, or tell me that I have this right? Either

way I can stop the chest pain I am currently feeling, or will start getting

chest pains. Wow!

Diane S

>

>

>

> Hi -

>

> Will you please then set some parameters or describe how discussions about

lobbying local, state and national law makers can occur without a discussion of

the issue ALL while remaining apolitical?

>

>

>

> How about this for apolitical discussion:

>

>

>

> Several months ago, I was shaken to learn that because my son Josh

participates in IL Home Based Support Services Program, the State and Federal

government have increased access to his privacy - that is, what is beyond the

protections provided to a citizen not participating in a Medicaid waiver

program.

>

>

>

>

> The State of Illinois gave my name and home address to union organizers. And

the reason they were able to do so was because I receive a check that comes from

the IL HBSSP program.

>

>

>

> This intrusion on my privacy motivated me to stand up and loudly protest what

I felt was the state of IL forcing me to join a union and pay money to a union

via dues or fair share. In turn, the union could use the money to exercise their

political muscle on policies that I may agree or disagree with.

>

>

>

> Again, I am shaken to learn that the State of Illinois can force us to drop

Josh from our private health insurance if he is to continue participating in the

IL HBSSP. I don’t know when or if this happen but this is a part of the new

healthcare reform law.

>

>

>

> I can’t help but to ask:

>

> Is it worth it? Is the small monetary support worth all of the heavy,

inflexible strings that it comes with? Is it worth giving up our privacy?

>

>

>

> I am tired of the quarterly visits and the review of our records. I am

wondering why Josh has to have an individualized service plan that identifies

life goals and documents his progress towards these goals. I don’t have an

individualized service plan. I don’t have to report monthly on my progress

made towards my life goals. People don't have to sit down at least once a year

and examine all aspects of my life - medical, social, familial and discuss it.

>

>

>

> Some days, I am shaken to realize what we give up because Josh participates in

a Medicaid waiver program.

>

>

>

> Thoughts?

> Pam

>

> What We're About

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I would echo what Laurie and Ellen have posted about recent posts and add my

own comments.

>

> We are Illinois Parents of Adults with Developmental Disabilities Unite! and

our focus is sharing information, strategies, and commiserating about our state

and it's woeful stance and services for those with disabilities. We hope we're a

place to vent when our loved one is having problems. We hope we can be a place

to come together (remember the " Unite! " part of our name?)to lobby our local,

state and national law makers when items come up that affect our loved ones. We

want you share news in your part of the state, news of your children and news of

your lives--this is not an easy life and we all do the best we can and it's

great we can come together to share the ride.

>

> We try to be as apolitical as we can be......in Illinois, that can be a hard

thing to do! But we must, or we will turn into something other that what Laurie

intended IPADDUnite! to be. Partisan politics have no place here--no matter what

side you're on.

>

> The ONE THING we all agree on is---Illinois SUCKS when it comes to

services/programs etc. etc. for those with special needs. I bring up the

" Unite! " part of our name again--we are united in our belief we can make it

better and be a force in Illinois if WE ARE UNITED IN OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT BETTER

FOR OUR CHILDREN. We don't have to agree how to, but we have to trust each other

that we all want just about the same thing.

>

> I have many, many friends who do not share my political beliefs and I try to

avoid talking politics with them. I have always been political, since my days at

Illini Girls State when I ran for office and in my time " off list " , I am very

political. But politics can be polarizing and being polarized from each other is

exactly what we can't afford to be if we want to change this state.

>

> So, be nice. I'll get off my soapbox and leave you and have another cup of

coffee. We can all agree that coffee and chocolate can fix anything.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

>

>

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