Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

[Guest guest]

Dear Concerned parents about Health Care, Lets give the goverment the benefit of

the doubt. After all we get social security from the goverment, as well as

medicare and medicaid. The National INsititute of Health funds basic research

and finds cures for diseases, the USDepartment of Agriculture safeguards our

food safety, and the FDA tests drugs before they are put on the market. None of

these programs are perfect, but nothing that is human related is, none of us are

perfect. The first plan for nation health reform was started 100 years ago by a

republican Teddy Roosevelt, and we are the only wealthy country where people do

not get health care. Actually people do go to emergency rooms, but can't get

basic care from a family doctor. That is one reason why are heath care costs are

rising. Juli Cicarelli

From: ktbugg <kathyb54@...>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

 

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Concerned parents about Health Care, Lets give the goverment the benefit of

the doubt. After all we get social security from the goverment, as well as

medicare and medicaid. The National INsititute of Health funds basic research

and finds cures for diseases, the USDepartment of Agriculture safeguards our

food safety, and the FDA tests drugs before they are put on the market. None of

these programs are perfect, but nothing that is human related is, none of us are

perfect. The first plan for nation health reform was started 100 years ago by a

republican Teddy Roosevelt, and we are the only wealthy country where people do

not get health care. Actually people do go to emergency rooms, but can't get

basic care from a family doctor. That is one reason why are heath care costs are

rising. Juli Cicarelli

From: ktbugg <kathyb54@...>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

 

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

Juli:

 

I agree 100%.  We have to start somewhere.  This should have been in place a

long time ago. 

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

 

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

 

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

Juli:

 

I agree 100%.  We have to start somewhere.  This should have been in place a

long time ago. 

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

 

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

 

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would much prefer that our entire country operated as a competitive, free

market economy. My husband's Libertarian values have worn off on me over the

years. But that will still create a large gap between the haves and the have

nots. Juli makes a good point about some of the accomplishments of our federal

government. At the very least, our federal government attempts to level the

playing field vis a vis a multitude of entitlements and social services that

don't exist many other places in the world and that do help our own family

members who happen to have disabilities.

The national health care plan, while no doubt flawed, will hopefully help some

folks who would otherwise have no access to health care.

Sure I would love to see us start over and do it " better " , and yes, separating

out long term health care needs from the day to day needs makes sense, but when

you get two political parties, lots of strong emotions, power plays, experts

with varying opinions, it will never be a smooth path or a perfect process...

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many

are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I would much prefer that our entire country operated as a competitive, free

market economy. My husband's Libertarian values have worn off on me over the

years. But that will still create a large gap between the haves and the have

nots. Juli makes a good point about some of the accomplishments of our federal

government. At the very least, our federal government attempts to level the

playing field vis a vis a multitude of entitlements and social services that

don't exist many other places in the world and that do help our own family

members who happen to have disabilities.

The national health care plan, while no doubt flawed, will hopefully help some

folks who would otherwise have no access to health care.

Sure I would love to see us start over and do it " better " , and yes, separating

out long term health care needs from the day to day needs makes sense, but when

you get two political parties, lots of strong emotions, power plays, experts

with varying opinions, it will never be a smooth path or a perfect process...

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many

are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

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> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

The latest change to the health care legislation includes more money to states

for Medicaid -- certainly needed.

Bonnie Dohonge

________________________________

From: Bedard <cathybedard@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 8:43:44 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care

Reform

Juli:

I agree 100%. We have to start somewhere. This should have been in place a

long time ago.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

The latest change to the health care legislation includes more money to states

for Medicaid -- certainly needed.

Bonnie Dohonge

________________________________

From: Bedard <cathybedard@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 8:43:44 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care

Reform

Juli:

I agree 100%. We have to start somewhere. This should have been in place a

long time ago.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have, can

contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.†--Eunice

Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html_

> (http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m.

html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suppose I would be willing to discuss a position paper...regardless if

this bill passes or not.But for those in favor of it please remember that

this is not a panacea of a bill...it doesn't cover everyone, costs will

continue to rise, health insurance companies will make more money since 30-50

million people will be forced to buy insurance, doctors and facility

reimbursement rates will be cut (and we know how many facilities are already

hanging

by a thread), pharmaceutical companies will also make larger profits with

30 million more people taking their drugs, and the list can go on and on!

This bill is a monstrosity as so much in it doesn't even apply to health

care or gives special deals as you are well aware. This is the first step in

the process, but just think down the road a bit...you get on a government

insurance plan so how long do you think it will be before vaccines are

mandated to stay on it? How will they look at a child on a special diet that

has

not been double-blind studied? Will the feds prefer you to house your

child in a large institution with dozens of SEIU workers or will they allow you

to choose a local CILA?

This bill (if passed) is a stepping stone to so many things that we can't

even foresee! KILL THE BILL and get back to what is needed...affordable

insurance for those who cannot afford it, separation of insurance through the

employer, portability, realistic Tort reform, ability to purchase across

state lines, etc...

(ranting again!)

In a message dated 3/20/2010 1:00:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

egskb@... writes:

All good points, Pam.

The cost is enormous and the benefits unknown. Most of us think we could

have crafted a better national health care bill, and perhaps we could have.

Perhaps much of the tweaking of this bill will address some of these very

troubling issues.

This illustrates the importance of staying on top of things, keeping well

informed and communicating with our national and state leaders, en masse in

large, grassroots initiatives at the beginning and middle of the planning

processes for large government initiatives. Most of the time we sit and

wait to see what the leadership will do instead of being proactive. I know

this is difficult, as we all have busy and often stressful lives. But

representative government dictates and in fact demands participation, without

which

we have no alternative but to accept what the leaders say is in our

country's best interest and without which we have no right to complain when we

do

not like the results.

Keep in mind, I am only marginally and reluctantly in favor of the

national health care plan, as proposed, and I would hope that we could perhaps

craft our concerns into a position paper that we could share with our leaders

in Washington. Pam, , Gordon...would some of you be willing to work on

that together?

Are there other strategies that we could employ? Meetings with our U.S.

Reps and Senators around the state?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

_egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@...)

----- Original Message -----

From: _pam_harris@..._ (mailto:pam_harris@...)

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

Yes, there is $48 Billion more dollars for Medicaid.

There will also be more than 1,000,000 new Medicaid recipients. Medicaid

is the government's health insurance for the poor and disabled. The Health

care bill will add 1,000,000 new people into Medicaid.

The question remains - can the already plagued Medicaid system, even with

an influx of $48 billion be able to meet the medical needs of all these

people?

Will more doctors participate? Will waiting times be shortened?

And it's important to know there are proposed cuts to Medicare. This is

the government's health insurance for elderly. $523.5 Billion in cuts.

_http://docs.http://dochttp://docs.http://docshttp://docs_

(http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_amndsub.pdf)

It's only 150 pages long but it's nearly impossible to read with

comprehension.

Pam

Pam

----- Original Message -----

From: " Bonnie Dohogne " <_bdohogne@..._ (mailto:bdohogne@...) >

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:11:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

The latest change to the health care legislation includes more money to

states for Medicaid -- certainly needed.

Bonnie Dohonge

_________________________________

From: Bedard < _cathybedard@cathybedarcat_

(mailto:cathybedard@...) >

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 8:43:44 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

Juli:

I agree 100%. We have to start somewhere. This should have been in place a

long time ago.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have,

can contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.â€

--Eunice Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care

Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to

shove down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled

individuals and elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will

not

be able to get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans

were so great in other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the

boarder to get care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open.

History repeats itself time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a

professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get

past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics

of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health

care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his

life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job?

This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the

government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance

on their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I

don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies

to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How

long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy

health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when

the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of

dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees

in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think

government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a

bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of

the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors

fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new

patients in

> Washington State

> _ _http://seattletimes_ (http://seattletimes/) .nwsource. com/html/

localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m. html_

> ( _http://seattletimes_ (http://seattletimes/) .nwsource. com/html/

localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m. html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but

government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which

is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of

course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in

Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a

tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked

to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suppose I would be willing to discuss a position paper...regardless if

this bill passes or not.But for those in favor of it please remember that

this is not a panacea of a bill...it doesn't cover everyone, costs will

continue to rise, health insurance companies will make more money since 30-50

million people will be forced to buy insurance, doctors and facility

reimbursement rates will be cut (and we know how many facilities are already

hanging

by a thread), pharmaceutical companies will also make larger profits with

30 million more people taking their drugs, and the list can go on and on!

This bill is a monstrosity as so much in it doesn't even apply to health

care or gives special deals as you are well aware. This is the first step in

the process, but just think down the road a bit...you get on a government

insurance plan so how long do you think it will be before vaccines are

mandated to stay on it? How will they look at a child on a special diet that

has

not been double-blind studied? Will the feds prefer you to house your

child in a large institution with dozens of SEIU workers or will they allow you

to choose a local CILA?

This bill (if passed) is a stepping stone to so many things that we can't

even foresee! KILL THE BILL and get back to what is needed...affordable

insurance for those who cannot afford it, separation of insurance through the

employer, portability, realistic Tort reform, ability to purchase across

state lines, etc...

(ranting again!)

In a message dated 3/20/2010 1:00:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

egskb@... writes:

All good points, Pam.

The cost is enormous and the benefits unknown. Most of us think we could

have crafted a better national health care bill, and perhaps we could have.

Perhaps much of the tweaking of this bill will address some of these very

troubling issues.

This illustrates the importance of staying on top of things, keeping well

informed and communicating with our national and state leaders, en masse in

large, grassroots initiatives at the beginning and middle of the planning

processes for large government initiatives. Most of the time we sit and

wait to see what the leadership will do instead of being proactive. I know

this is difficult, as we all have busy and often stressful lives. But

representative government dictates and in fact demands participation, without

which

we have no alternative but to accept what the leaders say is in our

country's best interest and without which we have no right to complain when we

do

not like the results.

Keep in mind, I am only marginally and reluctantly in favor of the

national health care plan, as proposed, and I would hope that we could perhaps

craft our concerns into a position paper that we could share with our leaders

in Washington. Pam, , Gordon...would some of you be willing to work on

that together?

Are there other strategies that we could employ? Meetings with our U.S.

Reps and Senators around the state?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

_egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@...)

----- Original Message -----

From: _pam_harris@..._ (mailto:pam_harris@...)

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

Yes, there is $48 Billion more dollars for Medicaid.

There will also be more than 1,000,000 new Medicaid recipients. Medicaid

is the government's health insurance for the poor and disabled. The Health

care bill will add 1,000,000 new people into Medicaid.

The question remains - can the already plagued Medicaid system, even with

an influx of $48 billion be able to meet the medical needs of all these

people?

Will more doctors participate? Will waiting times be shortened?

And it's important to know there are proposed cuts to Medicare. This is

the government's health insurance for elderly. $523.5 Billion in cuts.

_http://docs.http://dochttp://docs.http://docshttp://docs_

(http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_amndsub.pdf)

It's only 150 pages long but it's nearly impossible to read with

comprehension.

Pam

Pam

----- Original Message -----

From: " Bonnie Dohogne " <_bdohogne@..._ (mailto:bdohogne@...) >

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:11:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

The latest change to the health care legislation includes more money to

states for Medicaid -- certainly needed.

Bonnie Dohonge

_________________________________

From: Bedard < _cathybedard@cathybedarcat_

(mailto:cathybedard@...) >

_IPADDUnite@groIPADDUn_ (mailto:IPADDUnite )

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 8:43:44 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health

Care Reform

Juli:

I agree 100%. We have to start somewhere. This should have been in place a

long time ago.

Bedard

Ricky, andra and Tiffy's Mom

“Every person, regardless of whatever different abilities they may have,

can contribute, can be a source of joy, can beam with pride and love.â€

--Eunice Kennedy Shriver

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care

Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to

shove down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled

individuals and elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will

not

be able to get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans

were so great in other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the

boarder to get care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open.

History repeats itself time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a

professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get

past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics

of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health

care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his

life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job?

This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the

government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance

on their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I

don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies

to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How

long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy

health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when

the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of

dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees

in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think

government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a

bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of

the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors

fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new

patients in

> Washington State

> _ _http://seattletimes_ (http://seattletimes/) .nwsource. com/html/

localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m. html_

> ( _http://seattletimes_ (http://seattletimes/) .nwsource. com/html/

localnews/ 2011367936_ walgreens18m. html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but

government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which

is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of

course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in

Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a

tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked

to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there is $48 Billion more dollars for Medicaid.

There will also be more than 1,000,000 new Medicaid recipients. Medicaid is the

government's health insurance for the poor and disabled. The Health care bill

will add 1,000,000 new people into Medicaid.

The question remains - can the already plagued Medicaid system, even with an

influx of $48 billion be able to meet the medical needs of all these people?

Will more doctors participate? Will waiting times be shortened?

And it's important to know there are proposed cuts to Medicare. This is the

government's health insurance for elderly. $523.5 Billion in cuts.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_amndsub.pdf

It's only 150 pages long but it's nearly impossible to read with comprehension.

Pam

Pam

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there is $48 Billion more dollars for Medicaid.

There will also be more than 1,000,000 new Medicaid recipients. Medicaid is the

government's health insurance for the poor and disabled. The Health care bill

will add 1,000,000 new people into Medicaid.

The question remains - can the already plagued Medicaid system, even with an

influx of $48 billion be able to meet the medical needs of all these people?

Will more doctors participate? Will waiting times be shortened?

And it's important to know there are proposed cuts to Medicare. This is the

government's health insurance for elderly. $523.5 Billion in cuts.

http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_amndsub.pdf

It's only 150 pages long but it's nearly impossible to read with comprehension.

Pam

Pam

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

So if there will be $48 billion more dollars for Medicaid, and 1 billion

additional Medicaid recipients...

....then possibly those 1 billion new folks get $48 worth of health care per

year, and those already on Medicaid get no additional funds...if they are all

lucky.

What do they need to be lucky?  Enough docs willing to see Medicaid patients,

and no other places to spend the Medicaid money, such as additional government

bureaucrats to administer the program to all those extra people.

The more people served, the more government staff hired to run the paperwork,

and they don't work for free.

-Gail

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _ http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_

walgreens18m. html_

> ( http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_

walgreens18m. html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive emails

> from us in the future, please ensure it was not forwarded from another

> party or sent to an email address that is different than the one asked to be

> removed. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Or write us at:

> The Arc of Illinois

> 20901 S. LaGrange Rd. #209

> fort, IL 60423

>

>

[Guest guest]

So if there will be $48 billion more dollars for Medicaid, and 1 billion

additional Medicaid recipients...

....then possibly those 1 billion new folks get $48 worth of health care per

year, and those already on Medicaid get no additional funds...if they are all

lucky.

What do they need to be lucky?  Enough docs willing to see Medicaid patients,

and no other places to spend the Medicaid money, such as additional government

bureaucrats to administer the program to all those extra people.

The more people served, the more government staff hired to run the paperwork,

and they don't work for free.

-Gail

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to shove

down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled individuals and

elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We will not be able to

get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans were so great in

other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing the boarder to get

care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open. History repeats itself

time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job? This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance on

their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new patients in

> Washington State

> _ http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_

walgreens18m. html_

> ( http://seattletimes .nwsource. com/html/ localnews/ 2011367936_

walgreens18m. html)

>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are provided.

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[Guest guest]

Pam...I understand..I too am against the mandate....certainly the dd

population who CANNOT take care of themselves need programs...but people who

have CHOSEN to run their lives such that they are now uninsurable or unable to

pay a high premium have no one to blame but themselves. It is unfortunate

that some people have to suffer but our country only gives equality of

opportunity NOT of outcome. Remember, health insurance was originally a BENEFIT

given to employees when the gov't capped wages...now 60+ years later it is

supposedly a RIGHT? Even with 2700 pages, this bill will not fix the broken

system. Eventually the rich will find ways around the system, the poor

will be forced to wait in line for less care at a higher cost by

underqualified medical personnel...

In a message dated 3/20/2010 4:42:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

pam_harris@... writes:

Ellen -

If , Gordon and I worked collaboratively on a position paper - it

would not be in favor. I could not contribute without showing my bias. My

concerns. My fears.

At the heart of my disdain for the bill is the mandate.

I know personally, the privacy that we have given up so our son Josh can

receive Medicaid and apply for IL Home based support services program. When

he was enrolled in the IL HBSSP, I was again made very uncomfortable with

the privacy we had to give up. We made the choice. Keep Josh on the waiver -

give up the privacy.

There will be no choice. Health insurance will be mandatory. If I do not

obey, I will be taxed. By the IRS.

I question whether or not this tramples on my constitutional rights. I

don't think a tax can be used punitively (as punishment) but I digress.

How can we cut Medicare by 500 million dollars? Will our elderly be folded

into a different new government plan? With new rules and regs? Will the

new rules and regs benefit our elderly or the bottom line?

Pam

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> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

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>

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>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

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[Guest guest]

Pam...I understand..I too am against the mandate....certainly the dd

population who CANNOT take care of themselves need programs...but people who

have CHOSEN to run their lives such that they are now uninsurable or unable to

pay a high premium have no one to blame but themselves. It is unfortunate

that some people have to suffer but our country only gives equality of

opportunity NOT of outcome. Remember, health insurance was originally a BENEFIT

given to employees when the gov't capped wages...now 60+ years later it is

supposedly a RIGHT? Even with 2700 pages, this bill will not fix the broken

system. Eventually the rich will find ways around the system, the poor

will be forced to wait in line for less care at a higher cost by

underqualified medical personnel...

In a message dated 3/20/2010 4:42:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

pam_harris@... writes:

Ellen -

If , Gordon and I worked collaboratively on a position paper - it

would not be in favor. I could not contribute without showing my bias. My

concerns. My fears.

At the heart of my disdain for the bill is the mandate.

I know personally, the privacy that we have given up so our son Josh can

receive Medicaid and apply for IL Home based support services program. When

he was enrolled in the IL HBSSP, I was again made very uncomfortable with

the privacy we had to give up. We made the choice. Keep Josh on the waiver -

give up the privacy.

There will be no choice. Health insurance will be mandatory. If I do not

obey, I will be taxed. By the IRS.

I question whether or not this tramples on my constitutional rights. I

don't think a tax can be used punitively (as punishment) but I digress.

How can we cut Medicare by 500 million dollars? Will our elderly be folded

into a different new government plan? With new rules and regs? Will the

new rules and regs benefit our elderly or the bottom line?

Pam

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

All good points, Pam.

The cost is enormous and the benefits unknown. Most of us think we could have

crafted a better national health care bill, and perhaps we could have. Perhaps

much of the tweaking of this bill will address some of these very troubling

issues.

This illustrates the importance of staying on top of things, keeping well

informed and communicating with our national and state leaders, en masse in

large, grassroots initiatives at the beginning and middle of the planning

processes for large government initiatives. Most of the time we sit and wait to

see what the leadership will do instead of being proactive. I know this is

difficult, as we all have busy and often stressful lives. But representative

government dictates and in fact demands participation, without which we have no

alternative but to accept what the leaders say is in our country's best interest

and without which we have no right to complain when we do not like the results.

Keep in mind, I am only marginally and reluctantly in favor of the national

health care plan, as proposed, and I would hope that we could perhaps craft our

concerns into a position paper that we could share with our leaders in

Washington. Pam, , Gordon...would some of you be willing to work on that

together?

Are there other strategies that we could employ? Meetings with our U.S. Reps

and Senators around the state?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many

are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

All good points, Pam.

The cost is enormous and the benefits unknown. Most of us think we could have

crafted a better national health care bill, and perhaps we could have. Perhaps

much of the tweaking of this bill will address some of these very troubling

issues.

This illustrates the importance of staying on top of things, keeping well

informed and communicating with our national and state leaders, en masse in

large, grassroots initiatives at the beginning and middle of the planning

processes for large government initiatives. Most of the time we sit and wait to

see what the leadership will do instead of being proactive. I know this is

difficult, as we all have busy and often stressful lives. But representative

government dictates and in fact demands participation, without which we have no

alternative but to accept what the leaders say is in our country's best interest

and without which we have no right to complain when we do not like the results.

Keep in mind, I am only marginally and reluctantly in favor of the national

health care plan, as proposed, and I would hope that we could perhaps craft our

concerns into a position paper that we could share with our leaders in

Washington. Pam, , Gordon...would some of you be willing to work on that

together?

Are there other strategies that we could employ? Meetings with our U.S. Reps

and Senators around the state?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past, many

are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Ellen -

If , Gordon and I worked collaboratively on a position paper - it would not

be in favor. I could not contribute without showing my bias. My concerns. My

fears.

At the heart of my disdain for the bill is the mandate.

I know personally, the privacy that we have given up so our son Josh can receive

Medicaid and apply for IL Home based support services program. When he was

enrolled in the IL HBSSP, I was again made very uncomfortable with the privacy

we had to give up. We made the choice. Keep Josh on the waiver - give up the

privacy.

There will be no choice. Health insurance will be mandatory. If I do not obey, I

will be taxed. By the IRS.

I question whether or not this tramples on my constitutional rights. I don't

think a tax can be used punitively (as punishment) but I digress.

How can we cut Medicare by 500 million dollars? Will our elderly be folded into

a different new government plan? With new rules and regs? Will the new rules and

regs benefit our elderly or the bottom line?

Pam

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

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>

[Guest guest]

Ellen -

If , Gordon and I worked collaboratively on a position paper - it would not

be in favor. I could not contribute without showing my bias. My concerns. My

fears.

At the heart of my disdain for the bill is the mandate.

I know personally, the privacy that we have given up so our son Josh can receive

Medicaid and apply for IL Home based support services program. When he was

enrolled in the IL HBSSP, I was again made very uncomfortable with the privacy

we had to give up. We made the choice. Keep Josh on the waiver - give up the

privacy.

There will be no choice. Health insurance will be mandatory. If I do not obey, I

will be taxed. By the IRS.

I question whether or not this tramples on my constitutional rights. I don't

think a tax can be used punitively (as punishment) but I digress.

How can we cut Medicare by 500 million dollars? Will our elderly be folded into

a different new government plan? With new rules and regs? Will the new rules and

regs benefit our elderly or the bottom line?

Pam

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

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[Guest guest]

Pam and :

I think it is important to create a forum for dialogue...I think most of us are

very concerned with certain aspects of the health care bill, but most of us

would agree that the sky rocketing cost of health insurance, medical care,

drugs, all necessitate some action by the government or maybe some other group.

What would that action be, what would it look like in a perfect world? What I

was proposing is that you could start a position paper that we could then post

on IPADDU for a couple of weeks for " public comment " ...then you could go back

and modify the position paper, if there are further comments that help to

strengthen your position. If we get backlash from IPADDU members that strongly

suggests that you do not represent their opinion, we can rethink how to use the

position paper...You may wish to use it personally in meetings with our federal

legislators. It will get us all thinking about universal health care, and what

it really means to us and our loved ones who have disabilities.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

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[Guest guest]

Pam and :

I think it is important to create a forum for dialogue...I think most of us are

very concerned with certain aspects of the health care bill, but most of us

would agree that the sky rocketing cost of health insurance, medical care,

drugs, all necessitate some action by the government or maybe some other group.

What would that action be, what would it look like in a perfect world? What I

was proposing is that you could start a position paper that we could then post

on IPADDU for a couple of weeks for " public comment " ...then you could go back

and modify the position paper, if there are further comments that help to

strengthen your position. If we get backlash from IPADDU members that strongly

suggests that you do not represent their opinion, we can rethink how to use the

position paper...You may wish to use it personally in meetings with our federal

legislators. It will get us all thinking about universal health care, and what

it really means to us and our loved ones who have disabilities.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

>

> Please click here to be removed from our list. If you still receive

emails

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>

[Guest guest]

Anyone care to respond to ? He paints a pretty bleak picture... an

apocalyptic diatribe on the dangers of governmental control of health care...

Is this realistic?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

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> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

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[Guest guest]

Anyone care to respond to ? He paints a pretty bleak picture... an

apocalyptic diatribe on the dangers of governmental control of health care...

Is this realistic?

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Margie...no it is not your fault at all. One of the changes to health care

should be portability...such that you are responsible for your own coverage

and not your employer. Why not have employers give a stipend or government

give a tax credit so a family can purchase its own health insurance so

that when someone loses a job and gets a new one they can keep their insurance

on the plan they choose and not whatever the new employer chooses to give

them? Why if you are sick and can't work does your insurance have to lapse?

It wouldn't if insurance was not employer-based...

As for COBRA, why should it ever run out as it seems a COBRA payment is

more than a regular monthly premium??? Why should gov't limit the time on

COBRA???

In a message dated 3/21/2010 10:27:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

margiesillery@... writes:

According to this logic, if my husband loses his job and runs out of COBRA

and we run out of money and I can't work because I am sick IT IS MY FAULT

AND I AM IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF MY OWN UNDOING?? EXCUSE ME??

From: ktbugg <kathyb54hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Fw: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care

Reform

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:56 PM

You know what, the health care bill plan the administration is trying to

shove down our throats will not be like a trip to Oz. Special abled

individuals and elderly will be at the bottom of the list for services. We

will not

be able to get in to get the treatment needed, if the government plans

were so great in other countries why do we have so many Canadians crossing

the

boarder to get care??? Be careful people, keep your eyes and ears open.

History repeats itself time and again.

>

> Tony and the Arc are fantastic advocates for the disability community.

> Unfortunately I believe they are misguided here. I am sure as a

professional

> his research into the health care bill exceeds mine, but I cannot get

past

> the quote from Dr. Ezekial Emanual which basically states that economics

of

> the patient will be brought into the equation of who receives health

care

> and who does not! Will my Evan get a transplant that will extend his

life by

> 40 years if he is living in a group home and not holding down a job?

This

> won't of course happen on Day1, but years down the road, when the

government

> plan encourages employers to drop private insurance, and encourages

> individuals to pay a fine that is 1/2 the cost of purchasing insurance

on their

> own but still receive coverage when needed.

>

> Since mandated car insurance is the usual comparison let me make this

> analogy...My insurance is $1000 a year, but now the government says if I

don't

> have insurance they will fine me $500 but also force insurance companies

to

> pay for my car accident repairs AFTER I have an accident? SO of course I

> pay the $500 fine as I still get my car repaired at no cost to me! How

long

> would an insurance company last? A medical example...an uninsured person

> has a stroke (a pre-existing condition) and the next day tries to buy

health

> insurance? Would any company sell them insurance at $12000 a year when

the

> cost of treating the stroke could reach hundreds of thousands of

dollars?

> Of course not! Tragic as it may be, this is the risk that insurance

> companies take because they would be expected to pay for the care of the

stroke if

> the policy was purchased the day before.

>

> And since I am ranting a little...there are 10 years of taxes and fees

in

> this bill with only 6 years of benefits! And do you really think

government

> control of prices and cost estimates will be accurate? And do you have a

bri

> ght child who wants to be a doctor? Better think twice as the cost of

the

> education is still skyrocketing but how long will it be before doctors

fees

> are limited like they are in Medicare? Similarly, Walgreens has just

> announced they will stop accepting medicaid prescriptions from new

patients in

> Washington State

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>

> I am no fan of pharmaceutical companies or health insurers, but

government

> dictating and eventually running the entire health care industry (which

is

> the plan) will lower the standard of care for EVERYONE - unless of

course

> you happen to be a member of congress or SEIU, UAW AFT, NEA or live in

> Nebraska, Louisiana or are a senior citizen in a few counties in

Florida. This

> will not even the playing field, the rich will still end up with better

> health care and insurance. The proposed health care legislation is a

tide that

> lowers all boats for the rest of us...

>

> (speaking just for me!)

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/17/2010 9:08:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> egskb@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> FYI...

> From the Arc...

> Ellen

> Ellen Garber Bronfeld

> _egskb@..._ (mailto:egskb@ ...)

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: The Arc of Illinois

> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:42 AM

> Subject: Arc Action Alert Call Today on Health Care Reform

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> March 17, 2010

>

> Leaders in The Arc:

>

> We have been waiting for this opportunity forever.

>

> Call your U.S. House members today!

>

> Information below.

>

> Tony auski

>

> The Arc of Illinois

>

> 815-464-1832

>

> Call Your Representative NOW

> Take Action!

>

> Let's Get Health Care Reform Across the Finish Line!

>

>

>

> It is finally here! After decades of waiting and over a year of

> negotiating, the vote to pass final health reform is now upon us.

>

> The House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health reform

> bill at the end of this week. If that vote fails, health reform is dead

for

> this year and likely for years to come. We cannot let that happen.

>

> We are too close to finally passing real reform and too much is at stake

> for people with disabilities. Click here to see the provisions that are

most

> important to people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

>

> Even though the House and the Senate have both passed their versions of

> health care reform, the only way forward for the bill is for the House

to

> vote on the Senate version of the bill.

>

> Some representative in the House are debating on whether to vote for or

> against the bill. Even if they voted for the House bill in the past,

many are

> still weighing their options.

>

> Your voice matters now more than ever. Call TOLL FREE 1-888-876-6242

> Click on the " Take Action " link to check how your representative voted

in

> November. If he/she voted for the bill, say thank you and ask for the

same

> vote this week. If he/she did not vote for the bill, explain how much

> health care reform matters to you and why. Sample talking points are

provided.

>

>

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